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GOT PROBLEMS OR ISSUES? => DIESEL => Topic started by: I30Racer on February 09, 2009, 06:45:26
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Hi,
After 35000 km my Turbo has said goodbye on the highway! :mad:
According to statement of my trader,it is a fault by factory and is now substituted about guarantee.
Now I would like to know how many km you already have and whether did already someone else have the same problem? :eek:
Regards
I30Racer
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Hi,
After 35000 km my Turbo has said goodbye on the highway! :mad:
According to statement of my trader,it is a fault by factory and is now substituted about guarantee.
Now I would like to know how many km you already have and whether did already someone else have the same problem? :eek:
Regards
I30Racer
Ouri30 has done almost 48 000km and will have done in excess of 50 000km by the time it is 12 months old in just under a month. So far no issues with turbo.
Bob
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i have 26,000k up but rarely rev past 3,000. also i always ide the motor for a minute or so before turning off, just so the turbine bearing has freash oil on it when i restart. did you have a turbine bearing failure?
also sorry to hear about your problem.
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I'm on my 3rd turbo!
1st was changed because the dealer thought ut was making a weird noise. (If you ask me, it was fine!). The car has 20K Km.
The 2nd turbo literally "blew" only with 4000Km (no warnings... In my opinion, with was faulty instalation on something like that).
I'm on my 3rd, and he has now done 4000Km and ot seems to be healthy.
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I've done 37000+ now in 14 months and purring like a kitten (my car runs well too) :wink:
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I've done 52K for 11 months ... so far so good ...
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What signs did you have?
I have a feeling my turbo sounds weird. A friend was listening to it today and said it was fine, but I'm still not sure, because I know it is a bit louder than before. I have 30,000 km so that's close to yours..
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What signs did you have?
I have a feeling my turbo sounds weird. A friend was listening to it today and said it was fine, but I'm still not sure, because I know it is a bit louder than before. I have 30,000 km so that's close to yours..
hi all, if in doubt get it checked my i30 has 90k and the turbo makes a sound like a dentist drill but up & down with the revs. Verdict turbo rooted!
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Mine has 110K km (today) and rollin' ...
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the turbo went on my i30 at 60.000 km
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the turbo went on my i30 at 60.000 km
Tell us more please..I guess it was covered under Warranty ..Do you get dealer or independent servicing? Was it a loud bang or just a whoosh and a lot of smoke?..(Very few have blown as a % of our members)
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my car has nothing only Main Dealer Work.... drove the car 2miles,came home for a few hours. started the car and and white smoke everywhere and no power. before the turbo went there was a loud whistle coming from it. the car wasnt boosting correct , it was boosting at a real high rev range... really good boost. was like a scoobie or someting ,, lol.......
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Thanks for that info.. Did it take long for them to get a replacement and change it over?
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It took just about a week from a main dealer to be fitted and back on the road.
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It took just about a week from a main dealer to be fitted and back on the road.
That sounds about right.. Guess they wouldn't carry a spare in stock .. :cool:
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ya they hat to get the parts in they said it was the first turbo to go in ireland
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ya they hat to get the parts in they said it was the first turbo to go in ireland
Henno, do you know your car's engine oil history? How often changed and what was it?
Just curious.
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the oil was change every 20.000km i dont no what the oil was it was change at a main dealer all the time i think it was shell oil
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Glad I chose a none-turbo petrol version. I spent 4 years with my last car ( a diesel Fiat) fretting about turbo failure.... It never did but at 74,000 miles it tended to sound like a distant police siren on cold mornings.
IMO it really is important to warm the turbo down after using boost... maybe 30 seconds to a minute idling at the end of a boosted trip, or drive easy off boost for a few minutes before switching the motor off.
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Glad I chose a none-turbo petrol version. I spent 4 years with my last car ( a diesel Fiat) fretting about turbo failure.... It never did but at 74,000 miles it tended to sound like a distant police siren on cold mornings.
IMO it really is important to warm the turbo down after using boost... maybe 30 seconds to a minute idling at the end of a boosted trip, or drive easy off boost for a few minutes before switching the motor off.
I don't think the little garrett turbo on the i30 is anything to worry about (VERY low failure rate and 5 years warranty in most places) If I ever buy another i30 it will be a CRDi (They are awesome) :goodjob: :mrgreen:
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Mybe so but the advice to warm the turbo down is good advice, as is advice to ensure the right oil always gets used & to warm the oil through before demanding full boost.
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Mybe so but the advice to warm the turbo down is good advice, as is advice to ensure the right oil always gets used & to warm the oil through before demanding full boost.
Yes I agree. If you live in a built up area it is not so bad because it has time to warm/cool down before you park up. :cool:
The time to be careful would be if gunning it on the highway then pull in for fuel on a highway petrol stop.. :sweating:
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the oil was change every 20.000km i dont no what the oil was it was change at a main dealer all the time i think it was shell oil
That's a long time between oil changes.... :eek:
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the oil was change every 20.000km i dont no what the oil was it was change at a main dealer all the time i think it was shell oil
That's a long time between oil changes.... :eek:
I thought that too. Only good oil designed for long OCI should be left in that long. As we don't know what the oil really was it's impossible to say whether it was "good oil".
The buggared turbo offers some circumstancial evidence to the contrary though me thinks... :wink:
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that what the main dealer had every 20,000 on it from the day i got the car and i got the car new the main dealer where i got the is shut down and when i went to a new main dealer it was the same every 20,000 km when do recommend to change the oil
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I've got 80,000k have rarely reved past 3,000. i have a few friends that have common rail 4 cyl Turbo Diesels that have high k's no turbo issues one has 520,000k up and is due to get a new one.
but they don't rev them high.
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that what the main dealer had every 20,000 on it from the day i got the car and i got the car new the main dealer where i got the is shut down and when i went to a new main dealer it was the same every 20,000 km when do recommend to change the oil
Maximum 15,000 Km here in Oz or if you do a lot of towing or short trips some do it at 7500 km (Oil only - not full service) :cool:
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.. when do recommend to change the oil
I'd suggest you do an oil change with filter at 10,000km intervals, i.e., an additional one between regular 20,000km services. You still need to ensure that ACEA B4 (or C3 if you have a DPF) oil is used.
Oil, filter and 1/2 an hour... shouldn't cost too much.
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Out of interest can anybody explain to me what happens when you get a turbo failure and how does it affect the car. Would it be something that would be instantaneously noticeable or is it something that could creep up on you?
My car is feeling a bit sluggish, probably just this batch of diesel but was just wondering.
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When turbo dies it feels like you've just lost half of your motor and car won't go over 50-70km/h.
If it happens you'll know ...
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This is useful Diesel Variable Geometry Turbo Failures (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmg_LEVoTHM#)
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Excellent.. I wondered what Kryten from Red Dwarf did when that TV show finished :whistler:
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Excellent.. I wondered what Kryten from Red Dwarf did when that TV show finished :whistler:
Jeez :eek: I couldn't listen to more than 1 minute of that :disapp:
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Excellent.. I wondered what Kryten from Red Dwarf did when that TV show finished :whistler:
Jeez :eek: I couldn't listen to more than 1 minute of that :disapp:
Useful content badly presented but all the info & advice is in there for the poor turbo boys :wacko:
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Newertheless, it is not a good idea to shut the engine off while the turbo and manifold are still red hot
The Hyundai technical support in Slovenia said the exact opposite... According to them, we (Hyundai diesels' drivers) should wait only the rotational speed of the turbo to fall to 'idle' ... and they give 5 years warranty...
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You'd better wait a minute before turning the engine off.
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You'd better wait a minute before turning the engine off.
And what to do if the temperature of the exhaust won't fall under 600 °C for 10 more minutes?
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You'd better wait a minute before turning the engine off.
And what to do if the temperature of the exhaust won't fall under 600 °C for 10 more minutes?
The best advice is to get into the habit of driving "off boost" for the last 5 - 10 mins of any trip where boost has been used, this will give the extremely high revving turbo time to spool down with constant oil supply, so that when wsitching off the remaining oil in the turbo bearings will be sufficiently lubricated & wont get burned off by the turbo high temperatures as these will have had time to cool down.
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the oil was change every 20.000km i dont no what the oil was it was change at a main dealer all the time i think it was shell oil
That's a long time between oil changes.... :eek:
+1 :goodjob: On our i30 crdi (korean 2008) turbine was killed after 30kkm.....
But at HY service they putted in 10w40 semi synthetic oil.......which is not intended for prolonged intervals :fum:
Now ( with second turbine changed under warranty) i do my own oil changes @15kkm with synthetic 5w40 oil ( sythetic is better for longer intervals....plus better for turbine life -can withstand higher temperatures )
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You'd better wait a minute before turning the engine off.
And what to do if the temperature of the exhaust won't fall under 600 °C for 10 more minutes?
The best advice is to get into the habit of driving "off boost" for the last 5 - 10 mins of any trip where boost has been used, this will give the extremely high revving turbo time to spool down with constant oil supply, so that when wsitching off the remaining oil in the turbo bearings will be sufficiently lubricated & wont get burned off by the turbo high temperatures as these will have had time to cool down.
The reason I wrote the question above is the DPF regeneration. I am repeating myself over and over regarding this DPF regeneration, but it really pisses me off sometimes. It happened at least 5 times that ECU started the regeneration a few minutes away from home... instead of normal exhaust temperature of ~200°C, it stays at over 600°C. And all the heat is going through turbo...
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I've done 37000+ now in 14 months and purring like a kitten (my car runs well too) :wink:
40000 km in 7 months and zero problems with the turbo
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Welcome tgolisz, Glad to hear of your car's good reliability, many happy k's to come :mrgreen: :D
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Welcome tgolisz, Glad to hear of your car's good reliability, many happy k's to come :mrgreen: :D
:whsaid:
i30 Turbo problems are very rare on this site :happydance:
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You'd better wait a minute before turning the engine off.
And what to do if the temperature of the exhaust won't fall under 600 °C for 10 more minutes?
The best advice is to get into the habit of driving "off boost" for the last 5 - 10 mins of any trip where boost has been used, this will give the extremely high revving turbo time to spool down with constant oil supply, so that when wsitching off the remaining oil in the turbo bearings will be sufficiently lubricated & wont get burned off by the turbo high temperatures as these will have had time to cool down.
The reason I wrote the question above is the DPF regeneration. I am repeating myself over and over regarding this DPF regeneration, but it really pisses me off sometimes. It happened at least 5 times that ECU started the regeneration a few minutes away from home... instead of normal exhaust temperature of ~200°C, it stays at over 600°C. And all the heat is going through turbo...
Happened here a couple of times. From what I've noticed if it's regnerating and during the cycle turn off the engine, it'll continue shortly after on the next run. I'm not sure how it really works and not a mechanic, just what I've noticed. I've wondered if it's a good idea to turn off the engine, if you know the regeneration is on. After reading here I'm a bit worried actually.
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Probably not a good idea to interupt the re-gen cycle... but isnt it a pain... how disruptive to a vehicle owner to have to do this malarky just so manufacturers can hit the exhaust cleanliness targets imposed. SO glad I dont run diesel any more...
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Turbo can't be regenerated.
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Turbo can't be regenerated.
They talk about DPF regeneration.
I would do my best to continue to drive when regen starts because if dpf fails its OMFG price!
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i30 doesn't have DPF filter. Turbo has to be cooled before turning engine off. That's all. Just keep your engine running for 30 sec before turning it off.
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i30 doesn't have DPF filter.
Maybe not in Serbia, but they do in many other Countries.... :winker:
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i30 doesn't have DPF filter. Turbo has to be cooled before turning engine off. That's all. Just keep your engine running for 30 sec before turning it off.
yggy makes a good point though to be fair it is a turbo Topic. There was some very heated debates in the Fiat forum I was a member of, around the law & turbo timers... (leaving the car empty when the turbo timer kept the engine running at idle).
Different spec in different countries is confusing around which cars have what.
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I've always thought a minute to warm up when you start up and another minute ticking over before switching off does a lot of good for the turbo long term.
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OK, lets demystify ...
Turbo needs to be cooled because it revs at xyz000 rpm and the axle of tht rotor is cooled only by oil. If you turn off engine while the axle is too hot, oil on it will evaporate and that will lead to making dirt deposits on the axle. It time it becomes disbalanced, bearing that holds everything together will be demolished (literally) and turbo will die.
I don't have time time to practice my English, hope you understand me :)
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Fact #1: Euro-V conforming diesel i30 has DPF
Fact #2: DPF regeneration raises exhaust temperature to about 700 degrees C (majority of that heat is going through the turbo)
Fact #3: There is no visual indication on DPF regeneration (except for higher instantaneous fuel consumption)
Fact #4: Hyundai gives 5 years warranty :whistler:
Fact #5: Hyundai tech support assured me that there is no need to wait for DPF to complete before turning the engine off :whistler:
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