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FUEL ISSUES & ECONOMY => DIESEL => Topic started by: Lakes on July 27, 2013, 23:02:01
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Hi all, well i was in Sydney for a few day's & before heading home down the coast, i brimmed my tank. went into a BP & they had the Ultimate Diesel. this is first time i've ever seen it in NSW. well so far all i've noticed as no throth at all on fill up so much faster to fill to top. with Caltex Vortex it was low throth not that much throth & easier to fill quick than the normal diesel. the motor runs nice on it but so far have not notched anything different. this 6 speed is not as fussy with fuel as my first 5 speed was. just thought i'd mention it.
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Thanks John ... I've always liked BP fuels
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Ultimate probably means cleaner. Not so sure about better. :undecided:
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Ultimate probably means cleaner. Not so sure about better. :undecided:
know what u mean Dave, but like my car's clean & women Dirty.
cheers
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Ultimate probably means cleaner. Not so sure about better. :undecided:
know what u mean Dave, but like my car's clean & women Dirty.
cheers
:Shocked: :snigger:
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Ultimate probably means cleaner. Not so sure about better. :undecided:
Lakes surprised BP has taken so long to introduce Ultimate over there,we have had it for a few years,well I know for 26 months for sure,because this is how old Cyril is,I have always used the ultimate,until the vortex come out,I haven't had it varified but I believe the cars run better,cleaner and your get far more milage,the reason Ino longer use Ultimate is because of the price,here we pay a premium for the Vortex,between 4 and 6 cents,well BP wants a higher premium than that,they actually want another 4-5 cents on top of the Vortex price.
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When we bought Firty, the dealer at Medindie recommended BP Ultimate and I've had very little to sway me to go elsewhere. I get tankfuls at the HiFlow pumps (no froth even at that speed) at the BP on South Rd near the Torrens Rd corner and it's consistently cheaper than anywhere else including Caltex. :goodjob:
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Yeah but we have always found SA has cheap fuel. But wouldn't shift back there just because of that,Sue actually made me an offer(no not that ya dirty minded buggers)she has said I could have the MotorCycle of my choice if we where to move back to SA and that's not even enough to get me back there permanently
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What if she offered you the woman of your choice? :whistler: :p
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Hey Rick, yes took us a long time to get Ultimate Diesel here in NSW. i think its to do with where our BP diesel comes from? but i knew it was in WA first then outer states, Caltex Vortex has been here for a long time as Betsy my 1st FD CRDi ran on that from the time it was released. i did economy tests and no gain in economy. but it performed better & seemed to like running on it better.
but after the gent? posted about not useing cleaner as a diesel mechanic told him it wears the fuel pump.
BP just tell you what they want, there claim is keeps injectors clean free of deposit's so thats good as any restriction in fuel flow on a diesel would probably effect performance . i'm not saying it could make the car perform better but would or should keep it performing like if had injection cleaned. but if its not lubricating the fuel pump as well. but all i'm doing is guessing . i don't think i've ever seen anatyone post they had fuel pump wear out yet. we have had injectors go ( big money ! ) but not fuel pump. what you need to find out is what they have replaced the throaty detergent with? if the replacement is good on pump seals or bad. the old dirty diesel lubricated the pumps better i think.
i'll just drive wendy till she drops or i drop ( death do us part ) :D
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Yeah but we have always found SA has cheap fuel. But wouldn't shift back there just because of that,Sue actually made me an offer(no not that ya dirty minded buggers)she has said I could have the MotorCycle of my choice if we where to move back to SA and that's not even enough to get me back there permanently
I bet you were tempted though. :lol:
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When BP Ultimate first came out in the UK, I did some sums to check the 'extra mileage' claims. Yes it did give me more miles per tank than regular diesels, but it was also more expensive so in practice you broke even. All it did was extend your range on a tankful. That may be useful if you have long distances between fill-ups, but otherwise it isn't worth going out of your way for. Nowadays most diesels in the UK contain detergent additives to clean the crud out of the engine.
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And into your DPF, no doubt.
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What if she offered you the woman of your choice? :whistler: :p
:rofl: Yeah that'd only happen when hell froze over :rofl:
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What if she offered you the woman of your choice? :whistler: :p
:rofl: Yeah that'd only happen when hell froze over :rofl:
Go on, don't be wimp.
Ask her. :rofl:
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Yeah but we have always found SA has cheap fuel. But wouldn't shift back there just because of that,Sue actually made me an offer(no not that ya dirty minded buggers)she has said I could have the MotorCycle of my choice if we where to move back to SA and that's not even enough to get me back there permanently
I bet you were tempted though. :lol:
I was seriously thinking about at one stage,but me being me,would pick the biggest beasty I could find and probbly kill myself :rofl:
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What if she offered you the woman of your choice? :whistler: :p
:rofl: Yeah that'd only happen when hell froze over :rofl:
Go on, don't be wimp.
Ask her. :rofl:
You come up here and ask for me :question:, I'll stand back and watch :rofl:
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Touche, Rick :goodjob2: :goodjob: :rofl:
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Don't underestimate me. :lol:
Name the time. ;)
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I was seriously thinking about at one stage,but me being me,would pick the biggest beasty I could find and probbly kill myself :rofl:
I could see you on one of these, Rick.... :)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/rustynutz69/Slide_2013_Triumph_Rocket_Touring_zps7a237e5e.jpg~original)
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Is that one you'd like, Rusty?
(Still waiting for my numbers to come in :))
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Not really my thing, Dave....but it does have 2.3 litres of grunt! :goodjob:
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You're more of an ST1300 man, aren't you?
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Yep, I love that V4.....although I could be tempted with a Yamaha FJR1300.... :D
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Yes see a few Rockets up here most weekends,but being a Suzuki man years ago,having had all the triples,the Hayabusa has taken my eye since it's been out,then again read an article a while ago they did make a Boss Hoss with a V10 Viper donk :scared:
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Would you be able to wrap your body around a sports bike these days, Rick?
Perhaps you should go for the Boss Hoss, at least you'd be used to the handling after driving trucks.... :whistler: :lol:
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Yep, I love that V4.....although I could be tempted with a Yamaha FJR1300.... :D
:goodjob2:
So which is # 1 & which is # 2?
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Would you be able to wrap your body around a sports bike these days, Rick?
I'd give it a try,but my fear would be once I'd been on it from Here to Perth all my joints would seize into a fixed position :rofl:
Perhaps you should go for the Boss Hoss, at least you'd be used to the handling after driving trucks.... :whistler: :lol:
yes heard their only good for a straight line,but before I turn my toes up,I may not own one but I'm gunna find one to take for a blatt
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Yep, I love that V4.....although I could be tempted with a Yamaha FJR1300.... :D
:goodjob2:
So which is # 1 & which is # 2?
The Honda by a nose, me thinks.... :undecided:
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Yes see a few Rockets up here most weekends,but being a Suzuki man years ago,having had all the triples,the Hayabusa has taken my eye since it's been out,then again read an article a while ago they did make a Boss Hoss with a V10 Viper donk :scared:
V10 Viper, that, I would like to see :Shocked:
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When BP Ultimate first came out in the UK, I did some sums to check the 'extra mileage' claims. Yes it did give me more miles per tank than regular diesels, but it was also more expensive so in practice you broke even. All it did was extend your range on a tankful. That may be useful if you have long distances between fill-ups, but otherwise it isn't worth going out of your way for. Nowadays most diesels in the UK contain detergent additives to clean the crud out of the engine.
bryand was selling at same price as regular BP diesel in servo i got mine from but no BP near my place i got that in Sydney over 300k away.
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I was seriously thinking about at one stage,but me being me,would pick the biggest beasty I could find and probbly kill myself :rofl:
I could see you on one of these, Rick.... :)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/rustynutz69/Slide_2013_Triumph_Rocket_Touring_zps7a237e5e.jpg~original)
Rusty, a mate i know from Racing Bikes , he is a real good rider & only weighs 63kg with his leathers & helmet on. he has a collection of old race bikes . a guy got him to take his Rocket 3 that has a Sprintex Supercharger down the standing quarter, he said it was the biggest fattest bike he has ever ridden & fast.
they use a lot more fuel than my i30 LOL
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Would you be able to wrap your body around a sports bike these days, Rick?
I'd give it a try,but my fear would be once I'd been on it from Here to Perth all my joints would seize into a fixed position :rofl:
Perhaps you should go for the Boss Hoss, at least you'd be used to the handling after driving trucks.... :whistler: :lol:
yes heard their only good for a straight line,but before I turn my toes up,I may not own one but I'm gunna find one to take for a blatt
Rick i'm not a multi Cyl man think they are car motors, too fat, but i have a few mates that love those Haybushas they are all middle age & not that fit but they road them around Australia two years back in two weeks not trying. but too bloody fast for our low speed limits, if you did not kill yourself u would loose licence quick.
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Rick biggest bike is a nitro burning top bike! you go over 200mph with front wheel clear of ground all the way to over 200mph ( 320 kph ) then back off front wheel hits ground & u have to stop it. a guy named Matho has fastest in Australia & he was doing i think 230mph in Sydney & came off it in braking there is vids on u tube of it.
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he said it was the biggest fattest bike he has ever ridden & fast.
They are certainly fat alright! :lol:
Hey Rick, maybe one of these would be more your style? :D
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/rustynutz69/VMax_zps12e87f55.jpeg~original)
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More like this.
Rick (apparently) has trouble getting it up (and running) so needs a push or a pull, as depicted here. :lol:
(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/WAPOL5666/babes_push_bike_zpsd0569bc5.jpg)
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More like this.
Rick (apparently) has trouble getting it up (and running) so needs a push or a pull, as depicted here. :lol:
(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/WAPOL5666/babes_push_bike_zpsd0569bc5.jpg)
Beautiful tail Dave! must be fine , very fine cotton the blond's skirt is made from.
thats how to save on fuel for sure!! yummy.
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I'd hate to think I couldn't get it up and running if I was lucky enough to be in close proximity to those 2.
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I'd hate to think I couldn't get it up and running if I was lucky enough to be in close proximity to those 2.
:lol: Good answer.
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More like this.
Rick (apparently) has trouble getting it up (and running) so needs a push or a pull, as depicted here. :lol:
(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/WAPOL5666/babes_push_bike_zpsd0569bc5.jpg)
Beautiful tail Dave! must be fine , very fine cotton the blond's skirt is made from.
thats how to save on fuel for sure!! yummy.
Only one pillion seat though so I guess one will have to go on the tank. :whistler:
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More like this.
Rick (apparently) has trouble getting it up (and running) so needs a push or a pull, as depicted here. :lol:
(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/WAPOL5666/babes_push_bike_zpsd0569bc5.jpg)
Now there's the bike I want,as long as it comes with all the accessories :rofl:
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More like this.
Rick (apparently) has trouble getting it up (and running) so needs a push or a pull, as depicted here. :lol:
(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/WAPOL5666/babes_push_bike_zpsd0569bc5.jpg)
Now there's the bike I want,as long as it comes with all the accessories :rofl:
Thought you'd be impressed. ;)
They are called "trainer wheels." :whistler:
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Rick biggest bike is a nitro burning top bike! you go over 200mph with front wheel clear of ground all the way to over 200mph ( 320 kph ) then back off front wheel hits ground & u have to stop it. a guy named Matho has fastest in Australia & he was doing i think 230mph in Sydney & came off it in braking there is vids on u tube of it.
Sorry way off track there,the Y2K is the most powerful bike,they haven't found anyone yet who has been able to get it to top speed,they did have some one ride it in the Desert in Am,he got to 300mph and backed off,he was afraid it was going to take off,which it could have done it does havea jet turbine in it.
From all reports you can't stop at red lights if they stay red for to long as the exhaust melts the bitumen,Jat Leno tells a story where he was riding his around and some Dude in a AMG Merc came up beside and slightly behind him trying to get a look at his bike,Jay kept jumping forward to get away from the car as he niticed he was melting the front bumper
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :goodjob2:
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he said it was the biggest fattest bike he has ever ridden & fast.
They are certainly fat alright! :lol:
Hey Rick, maybe one of these would be more your style? :D
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/rustynutz69/VMax_zps12e87f55.jpeg~original)
Yes been seeing a few of them around,very nice looking bikes
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http://youtu.be/aptp4QN1bAg (http://youtu.be/aptp4QN1bAg)
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(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/offtopic.jpg)
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:rofl:
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(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/offtopic.jpg)
I blame Rick.... :p :D
Bloody Sandgropers!
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I blame Kevin.
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Eye's off those nice round butt's!
Tomorrow i'm driving to Canberra for weekend to visit friends hope i can get more BP ultimate there, does anyone know?
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Apparently BP Express in Phillip has it, John.... :)
The address is 166 Melrose Drive, Phillip ACT 2606 Phone: (02) 6281 2633
:link: (https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=166+Melrose+Dr+Phillip+ACT+2606&hl=en&sll=-36.605471,145.469483&sspn=5.92535,12.689209&hnear=166+Melrose+Dr,+Phillip+Australian+Capital+Territory+2606&t=m&z=16&iwloc=A)
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(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/offtopic.jpg)
I blame Rick.... :p :D
Bloody Sandgropers!
But what you didn't see in the clip they WERE running BP ULTIMATE JET FUEL :whistler: :rofl:
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Apparently BP Express in Phillip has it, John.... :)
The address is 166 Melrose Drive, Phillip ACT 2606 Phone: (02) 6281 2633
:link: (https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=166+Melrose+Dr+Phillip+ACT+2606&hl=en&sll=-36.605471,145.469483&sspn=5.92535,12.689209&hnear=166+Melrose+Dr,+Phillip+Australian+Capital+Territory+2606&t=m&z=16&iwloc=A)
Thank's Rusty, missed this , b4 i left , we just went up to see m8's son & family then pick up paint & some other stuff we needed, then drove home. i'm always lost in that place! seems to be a big circle with a lot of roundabouts. the BP i found never had the ultimate
i can't notice much difference between ultimate & normal performance wise or economy. probably would need to run it for longer period to see a gain.
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No worries, John..... :)
I've learnt the trick for not getting too lost in Canberra is to keep the Telstra Tower in view, at least then you have some idea of where you are... :lol:
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... I've learnt the trick for not getting too lost in Canberra is to keep the Telstra Tower in view ...
... until it gets foggy or rains lots. :eek:
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Many people have disappeared up somewhere having spent many hours driving around in ever decreasing circles.
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Many people have disappeared up somewhere having spent many hours driving around in ever decreasing circles.
Some might suggest that does some up Canberra - the ... err ... captial of the nation. :lol:
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Well I brimmed tank with BP Ultimate Diesel & before I return home i'll brim it again to try to make sure I have a full tank of it then see if any economy difference. seem to run nice on it.
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BP ultimate diesel recently came to our local BP as well (Bexley NSW). The station is known to have the cheapest fuel in the area before it introduce ultimate. Funny how the price remained the same and pretty competitive after the change. Filled up a full tank on fri @ 154.9 :happydance:
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Hi rickai, yes i noticed big variation in the price of BP Ultimate Diesel. i filled up @ Hoxton Park on BP Ultimate Diesel $1.54.9 like you, then before leaving Sydney i topped up on BP Ultimate diesel again but @ Epping $1.61 lucky only needed 7L drove about 130k or close to that in syd. but economy remains the same. motor seems to like the ultimate runs smooth. but back home & still on ultimate just no BP outlets that sell it down here. the part i like most about it is no foam so easy & quick to brim it. if it lubricates pump & injectors that will be a plus. rickai i pay from $161 to $1,59 down here for normal diesel. but no traffic & out of town speed limit 100kph so can get good economy.
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rickai, i might have posted too soon seem's i am getting slightly better economy with BP ultimate diesel as normally a trip from sydney down the coast, twisty hilly princes hwy. will show 4.8L/100k when i just drive normally & on speed limit ( maximum 110kph ) if i stick to 90kph i could improve on that but i feel i would hold the traffic up on some places so just go with the flow so to speak. anyway i've done 460k on the brimmed tank & showing 4.7L/100K (0.1L hardly anything i know, but it shows up on trip PC as a gain )
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rickai, i might have posted too soon seem's i am getting slightly better economy with BP ultimate diesel as normally a trip from sydney down the coast, twisty hilly princes hwy. will show 4.8L/100k when i just drive normally & on speed limit ( maximum 110kph ) if i stick to 90kph i could improve on that but i feel i would hold the traffic up on some places so just go with the flow so to speak. anyway i've done 460k on the brimmed tank & showing 4.7L/100K (0.1L hardly anything i know, but it shows up on trip PC as a gain )
I mostly do city driving with lots of traffic so I can't really tell so far whether it had any benefits (sitting on 8.4L/100km). But yea, so far the big plus for me with BP ultimate is price and no foam. Might fill up a few times just to see how it goes. I feel the car gives out less diesel smell, dunno if that's just a coincidence .
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rickai, i might have posted too soon seem's i am getting slightly better economy with BP ultimate diesel as normally a trip from sydney down the coast, twisty hilly princes hwy. will show 4.8L/100k when i just drive normally & on speed limit ( maximum 110kph ) if i stick to 90kph i could improve on that but i feel i would hold the traffic up on some places so just go with the flow so to speak. anyway i've done 460k on the brimmed tank & showing 4.7L/100K (0.1L hardly anything i know, but it shows up on trip PC as a gain )
I mostly do city driving with lots of traffic so I can't really tell so far whether it had any benefits (sitting on 8.4L/100km). But yea, so far the big plus for me with BP ultimate is price and no foam. Might fill up a few times just to see how it goes. I feel the car gives out less diesel smell, dunno if that's just a coincidence .
I have not payed much attention to if it has diesel smell with the ultimate diesel or not but will check that out, could not notice smoke in rear view mirror when i excellerated ( see that a bit on normal diesel, not bad but it's there f you look )
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Well update been home a few weeks now & still showing 4.7/100k & just been doing short trips got almost 1,000k up on this tank of ultimate & pc telling me the tank full will give me a total of 1,250k to empty( would it lie to me ?) no power gain i can notice. i'll just wait to see how far i can go on the one tank. then leave the trip PC L/100k set as is & fill up on normal throthy top diesel & see what i notice, report back.
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Well fuel light just raised it's ugly head LOL, 1,120k on the one tank of BP U D so far with distance left reading 120k trip PC still reading 4.7L/100k the light is on, but i'll keep going & see just how far i can go, just big hill's to climb around here no matter what direction you take ( don't think i'll be getting 1,300 from the one tank like i got on normal Mobile Diesel, with my first i30 )
well from my observation the type of Diesel you use will not make a lot of difference to how far you can drive on one tank. but keeping your speed lower than 90kph & driving smoothly can make a big difference.
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:goodjob2: :goodjob:
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I agree. Mine will save heaps if I keep my driving to 50 in 4th and 80 in 5th. I'm still achieving 4.1 for my runs to work and back. :happydance:
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outstanding Gonz, you not only save on fuel driving easy less wear & tear on brakes clutch drive train & tyres.
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i put diesel in, and go until the light comes on, then put more in!
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:rofl:
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i put diesel in, and go until the light comes on, then put more in!
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