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GOT PROBLEMS OR ISSUES? => GENERAL => Topic started by: Michael T on July 30, 2013, 01:17:24

Title: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Michael T on July 30, 2013, 01:17:24
My 2010 I30 finally wore out the stock Kuhmos so I dug deep into my pocket and bought Michelin Super sport tires. This was the first time my car has ever seen an alignment rack. Some things I learned.

1. How can these cars come with NO camber bolts?? Before I went to get an alignment I installed some camber bolts upfront.
2. My rear camber is out -1.8 on one side and -2.3 on the other side. The only thing I can do to fix this is to buy adjustable control arms online.
3. Because of how the front strut/knuckle setup is they could only adjust the front camber to -.5...

I am super pissed at this point. I have the best tires money could buy and the shittiest alignment setup.

Anyone fixed the lack of adjust ability upfront or even the rear? Thanks
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Lakes on July 31, 2013, 23:55:41
Hi Michael, i've had two i30 turbo Diesels, the tyre lasted about 35k miles  ( 60k kilometres ) i kept 40 psi pressure, but stock springs. if i lowered the car i would expect the wheels to go into negative camber.
i had Michelin pilot sport 3 on my first diesel 5 speed manual & they really sticked wet or dry, but before they needed replacement they went off lost there grip. bit like race slicks. the 2011 i30 turbo diesel 6 speed manual i have now has 50k kilometres tyres look to have 10k kilometres left. the i30 is hard on tyres but mine don't seem to have alignment issue & never been checked. first i30 i had had 60k miles on second set of tyres & they were still ok for another say 5k miles
yes would be nice to have fully adjustable, but for someone like myself i would never use the ability to fully adjust. should ask surferdude
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Surferdude on August 01, 2013, 04:25:34
There are some people on here who have lowered their i30s. But I don't know how it affected their alignment.
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: rustynutz on August 01, 2013, 14:48:09
Quote from: Michael T on July 30, 2013, 01:17:24
I am super pissed at this point. I have the best tires money could buy and the shittiest alignment setup.

Yes, pretty piss poor of Hyundai not to take into consideration that people may "lower" their vehicle.... :whistler:
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Michael T on August 01, 2013, 20:34:50
Quote from: rustynutz on August 01, 2013, 14:48:09
Quote from: Michael T on July 30, 2013, 01:17:24
I am super pissed at this point. I have the best tires money could buy and the shittiest alignment setup.

Yes, pretty piss poor of Hyundai not to take into consideration that people may "lower" their vehicle.... :whistler:

Get out of the thread troll. My point is that the lack of adjustability is piss poor. I've never owned a car you couldn't adjust the camber.
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: rustynutz on August 02, 2013, 00:03:14
Responding like that will certainly encourage people to help...not!  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Shambles on August 02, 2013, 00:16:04
Rusty, a troll :rofl:
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: beerman on August 02, 2013, 00:20:56
Quote from: rustynutz on August 01, 2013, 14:48:09
Quote from: Michael T on July 30, 2013, 01:17:24
I am super pissed at this point. I have the best tires money could buy and the shittiest alignment setup.

Yes, pretty piss poor of Hyundai not to take into consideration that people may "lower" their vehicle.... :whistler:

I must say I was thinking the same thing.....They design a car to do a particular job, and for mine it does it bloody well. The set up works for 99% of the buyers, so including the things you want, would increase the cost to this 99% for something that is of no interest to them (ask the customers if they want camber bolts or a USB input, I know what would win).

If you want to modify it and take it outside what it was designed to do then you need to research the consequences.

That said, there are plenty of modified cars in Korea the answers (and parts) you seek may be there.
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: rustynutz on August 02, 2013, 00:26:05
Quote from: Shambles on August 02, 2013, 00:16:04
Rusty, a troll :rofl:


 :P

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Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 02, 2013, 00:49:10
Remember Anne Marie & Aggro with the Troll on the end of a pencil.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Michael T on August 02, 2013, 02:19:20
Quote from: beerman on August 02, 2013, 00:20:56
Quote from: rustynutz on August 01, 2013, 14:48:09
Quote from: Michael T on July 30, 2013, 01:17:24
I am super pissed at this point. I have the best tires money could buy and the shittiest alignment setup.

Yes, pretty piss poor of Hyundai not to take into consideration that people may "lower" their vehicle.... :whistler:
The set up works for 99% of the buyers, so including the things you want, would increase the cost to this 99% for something that is of no interest to them (ask the customers if they want camber bolts or a USB input, I know what would win).


You do realize having a vehicle with adjustable suspension is not a new thing and this lack of it just shows where Hyundai skimped out on cost. No adjustability works fine until you tweak something hitting a pot hole, curb, bushings wear out. You sound pretty ignorant to car knowledge so keep going on your marry way.
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Michael T on August 02, 2013, 02:20:30
Quote from: rustynutz on August 02, 2013, 00:03:14
Responding like that will certainly encourage people to help...not!  :rolleyes:

Wow, another informative post from you. Glad you are in this subforum, you really help out.

Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Michael T on August 02, 2013, 03:05:53
Quote from: Phil №❶ on August 02, 2013, 00:49:10
Remember Anne Marie & Aggro with the Troll on the end of a pencil.  :rofl:

This is a technical subforum and off-topic posts will be channeled to a moderator who takes their job serious.

If you don't mind could you clean this thread up? Thanks for not being part of the problem.
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Surferdude on August 02, 2013, 03:09:51
Quote from: Michael T on August 02, 2013, 02:20:30
Quote from: rustynutz on August 02, 2013, 00:03:14
Responding like that will certainly encourage people to help...not!  :rolleyes:

Wow, another informative post from you. Glad you are in this subforum, you really help out.
Michael, you are over-reacting and it's not the way we do things on here. You are entitled to question Rusty on his comment but not in the manner in which you have chosen to do so.
Rusty's comment is valid. If you are of the opinion Hyundai "cut costs" in their design of the i30, why do you have one?
I don't know (nor much care now) what cars you have had in the past but I started driving at 17, owned cars since I was 18 (I'm now 65) and camber adjustment was probably available on maybe 25% of them. When I was rallying, none of my Renaults, Nissans, Subarus came out of the factory with camber adjustment. It seemed logical to me that if I wanted to modify the suspension, camber and caster adjustments were part of that modification.
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Surferdude on August 02, 2013, 03:11:25
Quote from: Michael T on August 02, 2013, 03:05:53
Quote from: Phil №❶ on August 02, 2013, 00:49:10
Remember Anne Marie & Aggro with the Troll on the end of a pencil.  :rofl:

This is a technical subforum and off-topic posts will be channeled to a moderator who takes their job serious.

If you don't mind could you clean this thread up? Thanks for not being part of the problem.
Michael, you're not helping your cause.
Take the time to go back and read some history from the forum. Then lighten up (from another mod who also takes their job serious (ly).
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: beerman on August 02, 2013, 03:48:00
Quote from: Michael T on August 02, 2013, 02:19:20
Quote from: beerman on August 02, 2013, 00:20:56
Quote from: rustynutz on August 01, 2013, 14:48:09
Quote from: Michael T on July 30, 2013, 01:17:24
I am super pissed at this point. I have the best tires money could buy and the shittiest alignment setup.

Yes, pretty piss poor of Hyundai not to take into consideration that people may "lower" their vehicle.... :whistler:
The set up works for 99% of the buyers, so including the things you want, would increase the cost to this 99% for something that is of no interest to them (ask the customers if they want camber bolts or a USB input, I know what would win).


You do realize having a vehicle with adjustable suspension is not a new thing and this lack of it just shows where Hyundai skimped out on cost. No adjustability works fine until you tweak something hitting a pot hole, curb, bushings wear out. You sound pretty ignorant to car knowledge so keep going on your marry way.

Actually mate none of the cars I have owned have had them, fitted a set to an old Falcon, but that was due to the rubbish wheel alignment. I've done 90,000km in my car without an issue, so I think they are not needed. Should bushings wear out, I'll replace them. This forum has been going since 2008 and wheel alignment has not been an issue. So I back the Hyundai design.
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: rustynutz on August 02, 2013, 07:36:57
Quote from: Michael T on August 02, 2013, 02:20:30
Quote from: rustynutz on August 02, 2013, 00:03:14
Responding like that will certainly encourage people to help...not!  :rolleyes:

Wow, another informative post from you. Glad you are in this subforum, you really help out.

I aim to please!  :snigger:

This might be of use to you....

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Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Surferdude on August 02, 2013, 10:36:20
Quote from: rustynutz on August 02, 2013, 07:36:57
Quote from: Michael T on August 02, 2013, 02:20:30
Quote from: rustynutz on August 02, 2013, 00:03:14
Responding like that will certainly encourage people to help...not!  :rolleyes:

Wow, another informative post from you. Glad you are in this subforum, you really help out.

I aim to please!  :snigger:

This might be of use to you....

(click to show/hide)
I can't believe you haven't read it Rusty. :wink:
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Doggie 1 on August 02, 2013, 10:42:36
Good book that.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: rustynutz on August 02, 2013, 10:44:37
Quote from: Surferdude on August 02, 2013, 10:36:20
Quote from: rustynutz on August 02, 2013, 07:36:57
Quote from: Michael T on August 02, 2013, 02:20:30
Quote from: rustynutz on August 02, 2013, 00:03:14
Responding like that will certainly encourage people to help...not!  :rolleyes:

Wow, another informative post from you. Glad you are in this subforum, you really help out.

I aim to please!  :snigger:

This might be of use to you....

(click to show/hide)
I can't believe you haven't read it Rusty. :wink:

Does it have pictures?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Doggie 1 on August 02, 2013, 10:51:06
I found that if I held that book too low, I had difficulty aligning my eyes with the words.  :undecided:
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Just Rick on August 03, 2013, 12:50:13
Quote from: Shambles on August 02, 2013, 00:16:04
Rusty, a troll :rofl:

Yeah always thought there was something weird about young Rusty  :rofl: :rofl: some PPL can just not see Humourous sarcism
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Just Rick on August 03, 2013, 13:06:39
Quote from: beerman on August 02, 2013, 00:20:56
Quote from: rustynutz on August 01, 2013, 14:48:09
Quote from: Michael T on July 30, 2013, 01:17:24
I am super pissed at this point. I have the best tires money could buy and the shittiest alignment setup.

Yes, pretty piss poor of Hyundai not to take into consideration that people may "lower" their vehicle.... :whistler:

I must say I was thinking the same thing.....They design a car to do a particular job, and for mine it does it bloody well. The set up works for 99% of the buyers, so including the things you want, would increase the cost to this 99% for something that is of no interest to them (ask the customers if they want camber bolts or a USB input, I know what would win).

If you want to modify it and take it outside what it was designed to do then you need to research the consequences.

That said, there are plenty of modified cars in Korea the answers (and parts) you seek may be there.

In Micheal T's defence,I'd have to agree with him,the I30 is the first cars we have had that not even the dealer can set up the wheel alignment properly.I have had both mine back to the dealers in the vane hope of them being able to do a wheel alignment so I would not be continually cutting the crap out of the insides of my front tyres,on Bruce we had to pay extra for new larger camber bolts,how piss poor is that of a manufacturer that they can't put the correct size camber bolts in to start with,anyhow the solution is there,just don't go to Hyundai for it,we went to an independant
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Michael T on August 06, 2013, 01:45:48
I was just joking guys. I have been on car forums for longer than I would like to admit. Plus being military I don't hold much personal.

Cheers.

Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Dazzler on August 06, 2013, 12:02:35
:D
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: rustynutz on August 06, 2013, 12:06:35
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Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: Shambles on August 06, 2013, 12:28:08
Rusty, you might wanna take/post a copy of that violiinist :P

(They've got hotlink protection enabled)

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Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: The Gonz on August 06, 2013, 12:50:25
 :lol:
Title: Re: Alignment Issues After Lowering Spring Install
Post by: rustynutz on August 06, 2013, 12:53:18
How's this?  :undecided:

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