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THE GARAGE (SERVICE, MAINTENANCE & REPAIR) => GENERAL => Topic started by: Pikapolonica on February 17, 2009, 01:27:15

Title: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: Pikapolonica on February 17, 2009, 01:27:15
I was told that I could service my car at a VACC approved mechanic, instead of taking it to Huyndai and that this would not void the warranty.

Has anyone used a VACC approved mechanic?

I've currently booked my car in for next Tuesday at Huyndai, as I haven't really looked into finding a VACC mechanic in my area (Geelong...if anyone knows of one...name please!)
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: MelWA on February 17, 2009, 03:51:23
Our nearest Hyundai dealer is a 900km round trip away.  I asked the question before I bought the car, whether it can be serviced somewhere other than a Hyundai dealer.  I was told that any registered mechanic can service the car, AS LONG AS THEY USE GENUINE HYUNDAI PARTS. 

Page 8 of the Service Passport states:  "The required scheduled maintenance may be carried out by other than Hyundai dealers, however the service provider must comply with the requirements of the warranty and issue detailed auditable invoice documentation to substantiate that the maintenance was carried out as per manufacturers recommendation for the warranty to remain valid."

"The inspection and testing of certain electronic fuel injection/engine management and automatic transmission control systems requires specialised electronic equipment specifically designed for Hyundai vehicles.  The use of general purpose electrical test equipment may result in damage to the control unit microprocessors". 

I don't know if this last part is a scare tactic to get people to take it to a dealership for service.
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: ozsnowman on February 17, 2009, 10:58:15
Yeah I thoght about a service centre, but I dont know of any good ones around - there are so many cowboys in this industry (and i've been to a few of them) that I decided to stick to the dealer for now. Besides the first service cost was fairly reasonable considering what others here have been charged
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: LuciferDarklord on February 17, 2009, 13:44:38
Like I've mentioned before, I play it safe and always use a Hyundai dealer.  If you use a non-Hyundai mechanic, and something major goes wrong with your car down the track, it will be up to you to prove everything is above board.  I would rather take it to the dealer and rest easy knowing that they cant weasel out of anything.  Its not to say the Hyundai dealer's mechanics are better (actually I had a problem with their workmanship on my wife's Tucson last service) but at least there is no (or less) loopholes in the warranty.
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: i30niko on August 18, 2012, 15:26:28
Guys,
This is taken by the ACCC: (Only applicable in AUSTRALIA)

In relation to general servicing, motor vehicle dealers are entitled to insist that any servicing performed on cars they
sell is carried out by qualified staff, according to the manufacturers’ specifications, and using genuine or appropriate
quality parts where required. Provided these conditions are met, regardless of where you choose to get your car
serviced, your warranty will remain intact. So shop smart and shop around.


So as long as the mechanic is qualified you can do the servicing wherever you want to.....
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: Keith on August 18, 2012, 19:25:13
Just keep the receipts, ensure the brand of all consumables is acceptable and clearly stated on the invoice (in the UK make sure the servicing agent is V.A.T. registered.)

My i30 passed its MoT today :-) No advisories nothing... Oh and I received my wOBD2 Code reader that is laptop based for the readouts.

And it works too, £16.00 bargain!! :-)
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: eye30 on August 18, 2012, 20:03:33

 :Agoodpost:

My i30 passed its MoT today :-) No advisories nothing...

Congrats.
 :judges:

I tend to put my car in at the earliest opportunity so I get 13 months
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 19, 2012, 01:05:15
Just keep the receipts, ensure the brand of all consumables is acceptable and clearly stated on the invoice (in the UK make sure the servicing agent is V.A.T. registered.)

My i30 passed its MoT today :-) No advisories nothing... Oh and I received my wOBD2 Code reader that is laptop based for the readouts.

And it works too, £16.00 bargain!! :-)

What PC software are you using, may I ask ? I can't find any good PC stuff anywhere.
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: 2i30s on August 19, 2012, 08:18:49
Just keep the receipts, ensure the brand of all consumables is acceptable and clearly stated on the invoice (in the UK make sure the servicing agent is V.A.T. registered.)

My i30 passed its MoT today :-) No advisories nothing... Oh and I received my wOBD2 Code reader that is laptop based for the readouts.

And it works too, £16.00 bargain!! :-)
and in oz make sure the mechanic is VACC accredited.  :winker: :idea:
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: Keith on August 19, 2012, 10:11:35
Just keep the receipts, ensure the brand of all consumables is acceptable and clearly stated on the invoice (in the UK make sure the servicing agent is V.A.T. registered.)

My i30 passed its MoT today :-) No advisories nothing... Oh and I received my wOBD2 Code reader that is laptop based for the readouts.

And it works too, £16.00 bargain!! :-)

What PC software are you using, may I ask ? I can't find any good PC stuff anywhere.

I got it off e-bay, set it up yesterday... bit of a faff but reads everything! And can re-set codes too... I'll see if I can find a link today and Post it up ASAP.

Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: Keith on August 19, 2012, 21:29:35
Here you go guys.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELM327-OBD2-1-4-USB-Car-Diagnostic-Code-Reader-Scanner-/330604630571?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4cf992522b#ht_5220wt_1397 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELM327-OBD2-1-4-USB-Car-Diagnostic-Code-Reader-Scanner-/330604630571?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4cf992522b#ht_5220wt_1397)
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 19, 2012, 23:05:37
Here you go guys.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELM327-OBD2-1-4-USB-Car-Diagnostic-Code-Reader-Scanner-/330604630571?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4cf992522b#ht_5220wt_1397 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELM327-OBD2-1-4-USB-Car-Diagnostic-Code-Reader-Scanner-/330604630571?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4cf992522b#ht_5220wt_1397)

I got that cd with mine, but which one of the supplied software are you using, I didn't think much of the ones I tried, they were  1 & 2 I think, from memory.
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: AlanHo on August 20, 2012, 07:59:01
I found this one on Ebay

http://tinyurl.com/8cmjzsu (http://tinyurl.com/8cmjzsu)

They claim it can be used to recalibrate a speedometer. The speedo on my previous car was dead accurate - but on the new one it is reading about 9% fast. Do you thing it can be easily recalibrated?
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: eye30 on August 20, 2012, 11:32:16
They claim it can be used to recalibrate a speedometer. The speedo on my previous car was dead accurate - but on the new one it is reading about 9% fast. Do you thing it can be easily recalibrated?

I'd be wary of such.

If you got done for speeding you couldn't use the fact you had recalibrated in your defence
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: rustynutz on August 20, 2012, 11:42:42
An inaccurate speedo is not a defence for speeding in Oz....

So I see this "tool" as a good thing if it does allow you to recalibrate it...  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: Just Rick on August 20, 2012, 12:07:29
My SX which came standard with 15" tyres,was reading 7.5% fast,with a lot of calculations,changing wheels and tyres has set it to spot on,not only by GPS measured speed,but also with a recently calabrated Police laser gun(good to have a friend in the force)at the four most common speeds used here,50,70,100 and 110 kph.
My SLX which came with 16" tyres,reads only 2% fast,I can live with that,as for servicing,I agree with most shop around,in Perth we have a Korean Cars service centre in Welshpool who specialise in Korean made cars.the owner is a little hard to understand,but they do a great job and are far cheaper than Hyundai.
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 20, 2012, 13:00:44
They claim it can be used to recalibrate a speedometer. The speedo on my previous car was dead accurate - but on the new one it is reading about 9% fast. Do you thing it can be easily recalibrated?

I'd be wary of such.

If you got done for speeding you couldn't use the fact you had recalibrated in your defence

I'm sure Alan would recalibrate it so it would pass police inspection  :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: eye30 on August 20, 2012, 13:23:55
They claim it can be used to recalibrate a speedometer. The speedo on my previous car was dead accurate - but on the new one it is reading about 9% fast. Do you thing it can be easily recalibrated?

I'd be wary of such.

If you got done for speeding you couldn't use the fact you had recalibrated in your defence

I'm sure Alan would recalibrate it so it would pass police inspection  :goodjob2:

Details of changes, I'm led to believe, are stored in the ECU so if they became suspicious then they could review its memory and pleading Alzheimer's may not stand up in court unlike if Alan plead Alzheimer's   :lol:
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: Keith on August 21, 2012, 11:49:08
Here you go guys.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELM327-OBD2-1-4-USB-Car-Diagnostic-Code-Reader-Scanner-/330604630571?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4cf992522b#ht_5220wt_1397 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELM327-OBD2-1-4-USB-Car-Diagnostic-Code-Reader-Scanner-/330604630571?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4cf992522b#ht_5220wt_1397)

I got that cd with mine, but which one of the supplied software are you using, I didn't think much of the ones I tried, they were  1 & 2 I think, from memory.

Mine has only 1 CD, no other options to confuse me.
I loaded it up and plugged it in, had to faff with the USB Port it was reading and a couple of config pages but it all works seamlessly for me.

The biggest downer for me is having to have the CD loaded to run the software but I can live with that for next to no money! :happydance:
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: Shambles on August 21, 2012, 11:54:33
The CD that came with mine (bluetooth ELM327 dongle) contained trialware, and stuff that was plain rubbish.
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 21, 2012, 11:57:36
The CD that came with mine (bluetooth ELM327 dongle) contained trialware, and stuff that was plain rubbish.

Me 2
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 21, 2012, 11:59:28
@Ffoxy,

Have you made a CD image & use a clone drive to run it that way  :question:
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: rustynutz on August 21, 2012, 12:35:04
Took the words right out of my mouth, Phil.... :)
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: ajmount88 on August 21, 2012, 16:49:22
Anyone tried the bluetooth version with an Android smartphone? I was looking at Torque (free) and the pro version (£2.50 i think) if it was any good. For £10-15 for the adaptor and app I reckon its worth a shot, unless anyone has any horror stories.
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: Shambles on August 21, 2012, 17:27:27
Anyone tried the bluetooth version with an Android smartphone...

That's what I have (with Torque Pro).

We've a couple of threads somewhere about it ;)

But this thread is getting diverted now... 

:backontopic: everyone!!
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: baroudeur on August 22, 2012, 16:35:35

 :Agoodpost:

My i30 passed its MoT today :-) No advisories nothing...

Congrats.
 :judges:

I tend to put my car in at the earliest opportunity so I get 13 months

You only get 12 months. Whilst an  MoT can be carried out up to one month before it is due that month is either not required because it is the first test** or already covered by the previous test.  The advantage of an early test is that the car can continue to be used up until expiry date if it fails thereby allowing time for repairs.

** that only came in a few years ago.  Previously a first  MoT was 12 months from  the date of the test so leaving to the last minute was the usual ploy  and taking a chance on it passing.
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: eye30 on August 22, 2012, 17:06:38
The advantage of an early test is that the car can continue to be used up until expiry date if it fails thereby allowing time for repairs.


I always thought that if it failed, no matter how many days you had left to the expiry of the MOT, the car was deemed unroadworthy and had to be removed from the road as the MOT database would have been updated with the new test results.


** that only came in a few years ago.  Previously a first  MoT was 12 months from  the date of the test so leaving to the last minute was the usual ploy  and taking a chance on it passing.

I'm sure that all the years I've been a car owner the MOT could be taken upto a month before expiry and the new MOT was valid from that date plus the unexpired portion i.e.

Expiry 28 Sept, MOT 30 August, New expiry date 28 Sept
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: baroudeur on August 23, 2012, 14:07:07
The advantage of an early test is that the car can continue to be used up until expiry date if it fails thereby allowing time for repairs.


I always thought that if it failed, no matter how many days you had left to the expiry of the MOT, the car was deemed unroadworthy and had to be removed from the road as the MOT database would have been updated with the new test results.


** that only came in a few years ago.  Previously a first  MoT was 12 months from  the date of the test so leaving to the last minute was the usual ploy  and taking a chance on it passing.

I'm sure that all the years I've been a car owner the MOT could be taken upto a month before expiry and the new MOT was valid from that date plus the unexpired portion i.e.

Expiry 28 Sept, MOT 30 August, New expiry date 28 Sept

The existing MoT remains valid until expiry date but  VOSA will have the fail recorded.   Unless the failed item(s) could be considered as  unroadworthy or illegal (which some will be) there is no offence committed.  If the failed item(s) are repaired then there is no problem.

I did state the first MoT.  Originally, the first MoT, at three years, was valid for 12 months from the date of test. Subsequently, it was from the date of registration if taken up to a month before the third anniversary.

From MoT forum   http://www.mottest.net/mot/mot-failure-question/ (http://www.mottest.net/mot/mot-failure-question/)
Title: Re: Servicing your car...but not at Hyundai
Post by: eye30 on August 23, 2012, 19:30:07
[The existing MoT remains valid until expiry date but  VOSA will have the fail recorded.   Unless the failed item(s) could be considered as  unroadworthy or illegal (which some will be) there is no offence committed.  If the failed item(s) are repaired then there is no problem.


Thanks. 

I wasn't aware of that so in the past years when I've had cars of a mature age I've been worrying when I needn't have.

May be it was the MOT station/garage wanting me to leave my car so they could repair it to MOT standard and I've misinterpreted their explanation.

Thanks again



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