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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => ELECTRICAL | ELECTRONIC | AUDIO => Topic started by: VaerO on April 27, 2014, 03:53:02

Title: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: VaerO on April 27, 2014, 03:53:02
Would doing this mod be legal in Australia? I know the bottom set would be fine but would I be allowed the have eye lines going as well? I think I would look fanny-tastic against the black paint on my car! bling bling

(http://i62.tinypic.com/o5reo5.jpg)
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Dazzler on April 27, 2014, 04:03:41
Can't see why not!  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 27, 2014, 05:02:04
After you've done it, the local constabulary will soon tell you if it's not.  ;)
They're good like that.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: VaerO on April 27, 2014, 12:27:14
I thought there might have been a height requirement or a one set only rule or something.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: TheReaper on April 27, 2014, 12:29:23
It wouldn't project that much light or cause much of a distraction. I have seen these before and thought about getting them
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: eye30 on April 27, 2014, 12:31:28
After you've done it, the local constabulary will soon tell you if it's not.  ;)
They're good like that.

is your dog doing a woopsie?
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 28, 2014, 05:57:13
After you've done it, the local constabulary will soon tell you if it's not.  ;)
They're good like that.

is your dog doing a woopsie?

Yes, but not on the carpet.
I'm a sharing, caring individual.  :D
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Phil №❶ on April 28, 2014, 11:36:39
After you've done it, the local constabulary will soon tell you if it's not.  ;)
They're good like that.

is your dog doing a woopsie?

Yes, but not on the carpet.
I'm a sharing, caring individual.  :D

I can't wait till Xmas.  :P
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Dazzler on April 28, 2014, 11:41:53
After you've done it, the local constabulary will soon tell you if it's not.  ;)
They're good like that.

is your dog doing a woopsie?

Yes, but not on the carpet.
I'm a sharing, caring individual.  :D

I can't wait till Xmas.  :P

For some crappy present?  :eek:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Phil №❶ on April 28, 2014, 11:44:32
No, for a more tasteful avatar replacement.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Dazzler on April 28, 2014, 11:46:59
No, for a more tasteful avatar replacement.

 :MeToo:  :undecided:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Jesse91 on April 28, 2014, 13:36:38
They look awesome! I love seeing mods on the GD's (FD's are still the better looking ones :P)

They will be fine, no reason why they would be illegal
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: rustynutz on April 28, 2014, 13:49:28
You might wanna read this...or not!  :whistler:

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2007C00608/52069310-a68d-4234-898f-844000bab145 (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2007C00608/52069310-a68d-4234-898f-844000bab145)

My head hurt just glancing at it...  :confused:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Phil №❶ on April 28, 2014, 14:01:56
Thanks Rusty, just wiring up my DRL's to the VP Commodore, measurements all check out.

BTW, I really am doing this, not trying to stir at all.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: rustynutz on April 28, 2014, 14:04:10
Good onya, Phil....  :D

Personally I'd be trying to make the Commode less conspicuous....  :whistler:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Phil №❶ on April 28, 2014, 14:08:02
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

We do drive Ruby most often but occasionally, Victor gets a run too, he tows the trailer and does heavy work.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: rustynutz on April 28, 2014, 14:11:48
Sorry Phil, just teasing...there's nuthin' wrong with the old Commodes.....  :lol:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Phil №❶ on April 28, 2014, 14:23:16
No worries, all in jest.

This car is just coming up to 200 k kms. Spent a lot of time used on weekends, so still reaping the benefits of the car. Starting to cost a bit to maintain now. Drives beautifully though.

So far I have replaced LHS valve lifters, 2 alternator swaps, 2 water pumps, electric window relay, 1 A Trans filter clean, serpentine belt and just recently, swap power steering pump & rack. Done all the work, except the A.T and the last 2, myself.

Over about 15 years. Purrs like a kitten now so hopefully, that's the end of the major stuff. Can;t see me buying a new vehicle for the rest of my time, I'll either loose my license or kick the bucket, whichever comes 1st.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: rustynutz on April 28, 2014, 14:27:40
 :goodjob:

Geez, I hope you've done less on the i30 than you have on the Commodore at 200,000...
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Phil №❶ on April 28, 2014, 19:25:19
 :lol:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 29, 2014, 06:08:31
No, for a more tasteful avatar replacement.

 :MeToo:  :undecided:

Sorry.
Fixed it now.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Jesse91 on April 29, 2014, 06:30:09
You might wanna read this...or not!  :whistler:

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2007C00608/52069310-a68d-4234-898f-844000bab145 (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2007C00608/52069310-a68d-4234-898f-844000bab145)

My head hurt just glancing at it...  :confused:

Page 76, Clause 6.19

Pretty much..
- has to be on front of the vehicle
- facing forwards
- no more than two
- within 40cm from the edge of the vehicle
- at least 60cm apart, or 40cm apart for a car less then 1.3m wide (smart car maybe?)
- at least 25cm above the ground
- no higher then 1.5m
- turns on when engine is running
- turns off when engine is stopped
- has a physical switch so can be turned off when engine is running
- must turn off when lowbeam is turned on

 
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Phil №❶ on April 29, 2014, 07:56:37
No, for a more tasteful avatar replacement.

 :MeToo:  :undecided:

Sorry.
Fixed it now.


Better change your moniker to Doggie 3 :)
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 29, 2014, 08:02:55
 :lol:
There's actually four (but you have to click on it).
They're only having a bit of fun playing choo choo trains.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: VaerO on April 29, 2014, 08:29:09
You might wanna read this...or not!  :whistler:

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2007C00608/52069310-a68d-4234-898f-844000bab145 (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2007C00608/52069310-a68d-4234-898f-844000bab145)

My head hurt just glancing at it...  :confused:

Page 76, Clause 6.19

Pretty much..
- has to be on front of the vehicle
- facing forwards
- no more than two
- within 40cm from the edge of the vehicle
- at least 60cm apart, or 40cm apart for a car less then 1.3m wide (smart car maybe?)
- at least 25cm above the ground
- no higher then 1.5m
- turns on when engine is running
- turns off when engine is stopped
- has a physical switch so can be turned off when engine is running
- must turn off when lowbeam is turned on

"No more then two" there we go so its illegal :(
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: rustynutz on April 29, 2014, 08:49:33
But that section is on Daylight Running Lamps.....you're wanting the eye brow thingies, yes?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: VaerO on April 29, 2014, 10:32:18
Well I was wanting to have the genuine fog light drl's and the eyeline drl's if legal... But since its not I'll settle with just the eyelines.

Edit: Are the eyelines "technically" lamps? All they are is a strip of LEDs in a white tube to disperse the light into one continuous line. Its not like they throw any light forward like  most DRLs.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: rustynutz on April 29, 2014, 10:50:14
The fog light/drl's aren't illegal....as you probably know, there are already Hyundai i30 models coming into Australia with these fitted as standard (Tourer & SE).

The only issue may be the eyeline lights, but that has yet to be ascertained...  :undecided:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Phil №❶ on April 29, 2014, 11:10:47
They're ok in the i40, so why not an i30.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: rustynutz on April 29, 2014, 11:47:01
Just so we're on the same page, we are talking about these, I take it?  :undecided:

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/rustynutz69/o5reo5_zps15329683.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Jesse91 on April 29, 2014, 12:55:06
Well I was wanting to have the genuine fog light drl's and the eyeline drl's if legal... But since its not I'll settle with just the eyelines.

Edit: Are the eyelines "technically" lamps? All they are is a strip of LEDs in a white tube to disperse the light into one continuous line. Its not like they throw any light forward like  most DRLs.

I would think "technically" that they would be classed as DRL's

BUT.... I highly doubt that any roadside officer would know/care if you had them as well the DRL fog lights. If anything you are making your care safer
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: VaerO on April 29, 2014, 12:58:29
Just so we're on the same page, we are talking about these, I take it?  :undecided:

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/rustynutz69/o5reo5_zps15329683.jpg~original)

The thread title "would this be legal in Australia" is me asking if its legal to pretty much replicate this picture on my i30, so pretty much what I'm asking is:

- Are the eyelines legal? So far we all agree that they are.
- Is it legal to have the eyelines AND the fog light DRLs on the same car at once? This is what we're stuck on, since the guidelines says "no more then two" which would be the fog light DRLs so adding the eyelines would equal four would it not?
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: rustynutz on April 29, 2014, 13:14:45
I don't believe we've established that the eyelines are legal at all....  :undecided:

We would need to know how bright they are for a start....
Going by the pic, they don't look particularly bright so in no way could you call them daytime running lights...  :undecided:
They would be more than likely be classed as position or parking lights, I would think.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: VaerO on April 29, 2014, 14:04:50
You make a good point,

OK let's look at it another way... What's the chance a cop is gonna take a double look?  :whistler: what would once receive if a cop picked this up? A fine? Or just a warning to remove them.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: rustynutz on April 29, 2014, 14:24:47
If the amount of vehicles getting around at night with headlights and aftermarket daytime running lights blazing is any indication, I suspect you'd have little to worry about....  :whistler:


Btw, found this, it may help you see things clearer. :D
It's for Western Australia but would most likely still be relevant...

http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/licensing/LBU_VS_IB_123.pdf (http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/licensing/LBU_VS_IB_123.pdf)
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: TheReaper on April 29, 2014, 23:27:09
Good find rusty :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: VaerO on May 02, 2014, 09:18:37
Instead of making another thread about pretty much the same thing, would this mod be legal also?

 2012~ Hyundai i30 Elantra GT exLED Rear Reflector R5 LED Module (http://www.exledshop.com/exled-custom-leds/hyundai/i30-elantra-gt-2012/2012-hyundai-i30-elantra-gt-exled-rear-reflector-r5-led-module-copy.html)

 :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Jesse91 on May 02, 2014, 14:47:49
Yep, it's just like a tail light. I think you only need to worring about mods when they aren't improving safety...
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: VaerO on May 02, 2014, 15:53:15
I just want double check, stuff like this seems very official seeing as all the documention about the standards are hundreds of pages long lol.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 02, 2014, 19:31:04
In some countries, that position is not a reflector, but rather a rear fog light. It could be interpreted as such in Oz and would be illegal to use, unless foggy. Whether a policeman would prosecute on such a matter, who knows. :Dunno:

The correct place to determine legality is with you local transport authorities. We can only give opinions, here.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Jesse91 on May 03, 2014, 08:50:28
The amount of people I see driving around with the fog lights on drives me crazy (not during fog weather obviously) I once saw a police car with them on!!!
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: VaerO on May 03, 2014, 08:59:47
I'm guilty of it  :whistler: I drive past heaps of cops and they never do anything...
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: The Gonz on May 03, 2014, 11:46:34
We don't get a lot of fog at all in the land of milk and honey, so we use them as DRLs instead. :victory:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: Surferdude on May 03, 2014, 12:15:55
The amount of people I see driving around with the fog lights on drives me crazy (not during fog weather obviously) I once saw a police car with them on!!!
I'm with you Jesse.
It's especially bad in Qld because we were the last state to intoduce the law which prohibits their use except in fog.
And it's really bad on 4WDs because the whole light array is higher off the ground.
They are supposed to be of limited wattage (apparently) but the majority of those I see are at least as bright as the headlights and hence, play havoc with oncoming drivers' night vision.
Gonz and Vaero, please desist.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: TheReaper on May 03, 2014, 12:18:31
I never use the fogs except when they are intended. Using them all the time usually labels you as a tosspot
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: rustynutz on May 03, 2014, 12:18:52
I think Gonz was referring to "We" as a nation, not him personally, Trev....  :winker:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: The Gonz on May 03, 2014, 13:11:28
Yes, as a nation. I haven't used them yet! :victory:
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: VaerO on May 03, 2014, 14:41:25
Was caught tonight at a rbt with them on, good timing  :snigger: was asked to turn them off and that was the end of it.
Title: Re: Would this be legal in Australia?
Post by: rustynutz on May 03, 2014, 14:43:06
 :snigger:  :Agoodjob:
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