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Title: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Shambles on April 23, 2009, 18:50:14
(split from another thread)

My spare is full sized, just on a steel hub
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: eye30 on April 23, 2009, 18:57:24
My spare is full sized, just on a steel hub

Why is mine a space saver on a steel rim if yours is full size??

When I have the rear seats flat I have a near perfect flat floor.
So is yours slightly raised in the hatch area of the boot?
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Shambles on April 23, 2009, 19:37:12
My spare is full sized, just on a steel hub

Why is mine a space saver on a steel rim if yours is full size??

When I have the rear seats flat I have a near perfect flat floor.
So is yours slightly raised in the hatch area of the boot?

My wording mistake. It is a space-saver but a full 17". Very narrow like a pram wheel :(

Anyway, I just hope I never need to have to use it to test this ESP off theory
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Lakes on April 23, 2009, 20:15:26
Can you GB Gentlemen show a pic of your rear floor you must have a lower floor than we have in Australia. most say they get an allow spare same as what they have on the car.
mine is an SX and i got a full size 15" steel rim spare but floor would be higher less luggage space. but think in australia we need a full size spare as we might be a long way from anywere when we get a flat tyre, but in GB you would always be close to somewhere you could have it fixed i would imagine.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: eye30 on April 23, 2009, 20:21:43
Can you GB Gentlemen show a pic of your rear floor

Will try and take some tomorrow, weather permitting. 

Had 2 days of no rain so odds on it will tomorrow!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Shambles on April 23, 2009, 20:45:59
I posted some pics last year of mine. Petey asked for it

Sure will be interesting to see the difference in well depth

here (https://i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,745.0.html)

Can we see some pics from an Aussie's tyre well? (it's still on topic so is ok)
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Duckman on April 23, 2009, 21:56:27
SX and SLX have full sized spares (the SLX has a full size alloy), whereas the SR (top of the line) i30 has the space (and I assume weight) saving tyre.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: i30car on April 24, 2009, 02:43:17
SX and SLX have full sized spares (the SLX has a full size alloy), whereas the SR (top of the line) i30 has the space (and I assume weight) saving tyre.
Here in Australia the SR come with the same alloy that's on the vehicle for the spare.
Infact the whole Hyundai range here comes with the same Tyre/wheel that's on the vehicle as the spare.
There is no spare/weight savers!
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: michaelv on April 24, 2009, 03:55:30
Our Tiburon purchased new in 2006 has a space-saver for a spare. We've had to use it.
So I'm not sure you're right about the whole model range in Oz, Duckman.
And I just checked Hyundai Australia website, which says current model has a space-saver.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: michaelv on April 24, 2009, 03:58:07
Oops, my apologies Duckman, I should have addressed that to i30car.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: tji30 on April 24, 2009, 04:02:14
Here in Australia the SR come with the same alloy that's on the vehicle for the spare.

I'll have to check out the spare on my SR (MY08 model) this weekend to see if it is a full size or space saver.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: eye30 on April 24, 2009, 17:20:56
To see pictures of the hatch area on UK model click this link:

https://i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,2950.0.html
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Lakes on April 24, 2009, 21:37:12
Thanks Recall Boy, thats what i wanted to see, looks lightly deeper, my floor is leavel, when i lift up the floor to expose the spare i have plastic storage compartments to store things below the floor and around the full size spare.
but after next weeks first birthday cellibration, for Besty. if i don't get a flat before next week it will mean i have hauled the weight of that full size spare around all year for no reason   :'(
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Shambles on April 24, 2009, 21:43:02
... if i don't get a flat before next week it will mean i have hauled the weight of that full size spare around all year for no reason   :'(

Make it lighter then.... let out the air :lol:
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Duckman on April 25, 2009, 00:23:36
SX and SLX have full sized spares (the SLX has a full size alloy), whereas the SR (top of the line) i30 has the space (and I assume weight) saving tyre.
Here in Australia the SR come with the same alloy that's on the vehicle for the spare.
Infact the whole Hyundai range here comes with the same Tyre/wheel that's on the vehicle as the spare.
There is no spare/weight savers!

Are you sure? I was speaking with the sales guy when I bought my SLX, and he said that the SR is equipped with the space saver. He could be wrong, and I'm not questioning you :P
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: bez10y on April 25, 2009, 07:50:10
I checked my SR which I bought in Feb 08 and it has a full sized spare but on your standard rim, not an alloy.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Dazzler on April 25, 2009, 09:17:08
I checked my SR which I bought in Feb 08 and it has a full sized spare but on your standard rim, not an alloy.
   

That's a bit mean of them (Most Aussie SLX seem to get an alloy spare... :D)
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: tji30 on April 25, 2009, 11:33:20
My MY08 SR (Built July 08, Compliance August 08, Purchased 30 March 09) has a full-size 17" alloy spare exactly the same as the other 4 wheels (including the chrome inserts).
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Dazzler on April 25, 2009, 11:57:19
My MY08 SR (Built July 08, Compliance August 08, Purchased 30 March 09) has a full-size 17" alloy spare exactly the same as the other 4 wheels (including the chrome inserts).
 

That's more like it... :D
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: umbro on April 25, 2009, 22:21:41
my wheels are 195/65/15 but my spare wheel is 125/65/15 and it's red  :)
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: i30car on April 29, 2009, 08:00:19
Our Tiburon purchased new in 2006 has a space-saver for a spare. We've had to use it.
So I'm not sure you're right about the whole model range in Oz, Duckman.
And I just checked Hyundai Australia website, which says current model has a space-saver.
I wasn't refering to back in 2006, I was refering to the current range. Thats like me saying Theo whole Range is now avalible  with esp and you replying with "BUT back in 1981 they didn't have ESP across there whole range".
BUT the whole available range here now in Australia comes with a space saver.

SX and SLX have full sized spares (the SLX has a full size alloy), whereas the SR (top of the line) i30 has the space (and I assume weight) saving tyre.

Are you sure? I was speaking with the sales guy when I bought my SLX, and he said that the SR is equipped with the space saver. He could be wrong, and I'm not questioning you :P
The salesman is lying to you. The SR wouldn't be able to get a 5star ancap safety rating with a space saver.

Those people who didn't get the same alloy as there spare as they have on there vehicle have been ripped of they are meant to have it!
Also every i30 SR I have ever seen has the full size alloy spare wheel. I have photos off 2 SR's i just went and checked and both have it. If anyone wants to post the photos just let me know
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: i30car on April 29, 2009, 08:04:29
Ok I have been looking around the internet and speaking to a few people I know about the SR and they all have the full size alloy spare. It seems that 99% of them come with the same wheel that comes on the vehicles. And the other 1% come with a 15inch black stock rim. The hyundai Australia website says that the all there vehicles come with a black 15inch alloy as a spare. Hyundai don't have space savers. So anyone who has been giving a space/ weight saver should speak to there dealer.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: snowcherry on April 29, 2009, 08:55:58
having a full spare and not a spacesaver is an option that strongly appeals to me as a possible buyer
i do a lot of highway driving around central Q on some pretty crappy roads and i wouldn't feel hugely comfortable relying on a space saver tyre

from memory every i30 i've looked at to date including the wagon has had a full size spare, can't recall whether it was alloy or normal or whatever as i don't tend to pay attention to that stuff
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: i30Dave on April 29, 2009, 08:59:00
my SR came with a full size 17" Alloy
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: bez10y on April 29, 2009, 23:02:45
I checked my SR which I bought in Feb 08 and it has a full sized spare but on your standard rim, not an alloy.
   

That's a bit mean of them (Most Aussie SLX seem to get an alloy spare... :D)

Such is life and frankly I'm not overly worried about it.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: L30N on May 03, 2009, 20:41:22
eye - I was surprised to discover today that I have a full size 15" alloy spare, yet my i30 is the same trim level as yours except petrol. Purchased August 2008.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Shambles on May 03, 2009, 20:47:35
eye - I was surprised to discover today that I have a full size 15" alloy spare, yet my i30 is the same trim level as yours except petrol. Purchased August 2008.

Shhhhhhhhhh - you'll only upset him  :cool:
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: eye30 on May 04, 2009, 12:47:43
eye - I was surprised to discover today that I have a full size 15" alloy spare, yet my i30 is the same trim level as yours except petrol. Purchased August 2008.

Shhhhhhhhhh - you'll only upset him  :cool:

I am upset NOWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

Mine was 1 of the first in the UK, Diesel bought is September 2007. 
They must have changed this in later models.

I hope this was reflected in the price I paid, i.e half a wheel rim and tyre.  :lol:  If not I'm going back for a moan.

L30N - Just as a check.  Do you have the moulding under the boot floor thereby lifting the floor up and removing the slight lip I have when the rear seats are down?
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: MelWA on May 05, 2009, 13:28:16
<Start rant> I wouldn't have bought an i30 if it had a poxy space saver.  What really makes me cringe is when I see a space saver on the FRONT of a car.  I mean, seriously, how many people actually know that: you should NEVER put the space saver on the front, you should NEVER exceed 80km/h while a space saver is fitted and you should NEVER leave the space saver on the car longer than is necessary, i.e. driving your car to the nearest tyre repair shop?  OK, so it is a hassle if your front tyre is flat, to take the rear wheel off, put the space saver on the rear, and move the rear wheel to the front.  But NEVER, EVER put the space saver on the front - it affects the steering and handling.  I can't imagine a space saver lasting five minutes in the summer here, when the temperature is 45C+ and the bitumen is melting.  The bloody things should be banned.  Hyundai gives us a full-sized spare, a Toyota Yaris has a full-sized spare, but a Falcon has a space-saver and some cars have a can of foam or run-flat tyres.  Absolutely ridiculous. <End rant>  :mad:  Just out of interest, does anyone know how far you can drive on a flat, run-flat tyre?  I wouldn't think they'd be very useful if you're 200km from the nearest tyre shop.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Dazzler on May 05, 2009, 13:34:57
Hi Mel.. never realy thought about them but here is an extract from Wikipedia...

A run-flat tire is a pneumatic vehicle tire that is designed to resist the effects of deflation when punctured, and to enable the vehicle to continue to be driven at reduced speeds (up to 90 km/h or 55 mph),[1] and for limited distances of up to 100 miles (160.9 km),[2][1] or even 200 miles (321.8 km) depending on the type of tire.[3] First patented in 1892,[2] run-flat tires were re-developed in 1978 and offered as an option in the 1990s mainly for two-seat sports cars with little room for spare tires and jacks. They have grown in popularity for other vehicles, such as high-end luxury cars,[1] because of their safety and convenience,[4] costing double the price of sports tires.[1][3]

Extract from here..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_flat_tire
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: eye30 on May 05, 2009, 16:30:22
I had a run flat tyres on a Rover Metro some 20 years ago.

Had many a flat and given the state of our roads would never dream of running miles on one.

The only good thing I found about them was they didn't deflate instantly so you still had control over the car until you could pull over and change to the spare.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: L30N on May 10, 2009, 21:04:28
Do you have the moulding under the boot floor thereby lifting the floor up and removing the slight lip I have when the rear seats are down?
Finally got round to checking today - yes I have the plastic compartments under the boot floor, see pics on your separate thread.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: OMVanders on June 01, 2009, 13:38:50
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Looking at Hemmi's picture I take it that he has a full size spare.

I have a similar spare rim, but recently discovered that the tyre on it is not the same size as the other Khumo Solus tyres sold as standard.  Whereas they are 195/65R15 the spare is a 185/65R15!!

I enquired with my Hyundai service agent about it, having thought they'd made a mistake, and requested a replacement.  My service manager made some enquiries and got back to me, stating that apparently all of the spare tyres fitted to the steel rims are narrower so that they fit in the under-floor boot space.  He said that's why they have a 80km/hr sticker on them.

It all sounds a bit dodgy to me, especially since one of my alloy wheels with the 195's fits into the space just fine.  I'm getting the 185 spare replaced with a 195 in any case.

I'd be interested to know whether any others have encountered this issue.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Pip on June 01, 2009, 16:08:49
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Looking at Hemmi's picture I take it that he has a full size spare.

I have a similar spare rim, but recently discovered that the tyre on it is not the same size as the other Khumo Solus tyres sold as standard.  Whereas they are 195/65R15 the spare is a 185/65R15!!

I enquired with my Hyundai service agent about it, having thought they'd made a mistake, and requested a replacement.  My service manager made some enquiries and got back to me, stating that apparently all of the spare tyres fitted to the steel rims are narrower so that they fit in the under-floor boot space.  He said that's why they have a 80km/hr sticker on them.

It all sounds a bit dodgy to me, especially since one of my alloy wheels with the 195's fits into the space just fine.  I'm getting the 185 spare replaced with a 195 in any case.

I'd be interested to know whether any others have encountered this issue.
In Oz, we have been conditioned to expect 5*wheels the same.  Some manufacturers seem to understand and others just know that ultimately we will accept whatever we are given - even if we don't like it.

I think, that by whatever means we have, Hyundai dealers should be made to understand which is our preference, and from what I can gather, they do have an influence.
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: OMVanders on June 04, 2009, 12:12:07
Lakes wrote:
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mine is an SX and i got a full size 15" steel rim spare but floor would be higher less luggage space. but think in australia we need a full size spare as we might be a long way from anywere when we get a flat tyre, but in GB you would always be close to somewhere you could have it fixed i would imagine.

Lakes, as per my previous post in this thread I would be curious as to whether the tyre on your spare is a 195/65R15 (as with the 4 running wheels) or a 185/65R15 (13mm diameter difference).  I'm told by my service agent that Hyundai insist that all spare tyres they've supplied on delivery of new vehicles is this different size, except on the newest of I30's.  Insane if you ask me...
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: magicRob on June 04, 2009, 12:50:30
Will report back when I take delivery of my SR. If there isn't a 17" matching alloy with a 225/45/17 on it (amongst other things), I won't be accepting the vehicle :)
Title: Re: Spare tyre: space saver or alloy?
Post by: Dazzler on June 04, 2009, 12:58:16
Will report back when I take delivery of my SR. If there isn't a 17" matching alloy with a 225/45/17 on it (amongst other things), I won't be accepting the vehicle :)
   

I don't think you'll have a problem with the SR or SLX spares being different size tyre to the other four...
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