Post by: i30Dave on May 22, 2008, 07:19:29
Quote from: "eye30"
From reading postings on this and H F there seems to be a wide variation in fuel consumption.
Can you post your best and worst over the next few weeks and against each the type of driving i.e. town, motorway leisure, mixed etc
If enough enter details I'll collate and do a summary posting at the end of May.
This way we'll see if figures given by Hyundai are achievable.
Post by: i30Dave on May 22, 2008, 07:19:49
Quote from: "Ouri30"
Based on Consumption between Refuelling
Worst 5.3l/100k
This included around 800km with a combination of highway, hilly terain, city and general sight-seeing. The average speed for was 69kph
Best 4.6l/100k
This included around 600km of primarily open road with minimal driving in built-up areas, maintaining speed between 85kph and 100kph with smooth acceleration and decceleration. The average speed was 78kph.
Bob
Post by: i30Dave on May 22, 2008, 07:20:44
Quote from: "Thumper"
Best 3.8lt/100km (Over 500km traveled)
Worst 4.5lt/100km (Over 500km traveled)
Only 2,000km on the clock, hoping it will get better when the motor frees up a bit.
(Diesel Manual highway travel only)
Post by: i30Dave on May 22, 2008, 07:21:06
Quote from: "ozsnowman"
first tank 5.41
2nd tank 5.36
3rd tank 4.5(wasnt a full tank, topped up from 2/3 full)
About 2300km done now
Post by: i30Dave on May 22, 2008, 07:21:37
Quote from: "Lakes"
You boy's have to play fare! you are all useing a PC and just quoting what it tell's you, would you like me to give you the amount of fuel you have quoted then take you 60 mile or 100K from anywhere and see how u go? :D ( what else) i used my Cruise Control wisely and used the great TQ from this motor. before i left i filled the tank to the very top all foam was gone and the level was to the brim. on my return did the same on the same bowser just spilt some getting it full. got 45 Lt's in with gauge reading 1/4 so they must hold more than 52L but see that b4 on other cars. so i think i got 4.4L/ per 100K and with a trip PC could probably have got better, but thats just guessing. still will have a go at 1,200 to a tank full and that will be the best i've ever gone. i once drove to QLD on one tank with a GT Falcon Phrase one windsor 351 4 speed, but that had a 36 gallion ( multiply that by 4.54 ) and was going over 160kph most of the way.
whats the furthest anyone here has gone on one tank full?
Post by: i30Dave on May 22, 2008, 07:21:56
Quote from: "eye30"
With my own 4.09/100k (69mpg) this was calculated by filling to top (diesel right to the brim) them refilling to the same point.
The PC said, I think 57 mpg. so I'm not to keen on taking that as read.
Since my trip the PC has been showing 55.3 or.4 or.5 or.6 etc. I've only done town driving since my trip which previously the best I was getting was 48 to 54 MPG.
I'll reset when I next fill up to the brim and see what I calculate and compare to PC.
Post by: i30Dave on May 22, 2008, 07:22:24
Quote from: "Lakes"
Eye, that's what i mean, the trip pc takes time to calculate, also if you were driving in ideal conditions and getting your best mileage, then you changed to stop start driving the trip PC average would be out also the distance to empty would be wrong. but if you understand that you are ok. i went from driving in country averaging 9.8 L/per 100k with my V8 then started driving in the city was useing the distance to empty to the max, it said i had 20k left and i was on m2 motorway with no service stations at all. ran out of fuelwas about 11pm on a monday night. lucky i had a push bike in the back of the ute, i road up and down hills for about 12 k's to home and got a container got fuel road back to ute. you live and you learn.
cheers
Post by: Lakes on May 22, 2008, 12:00:44
on filling up i work out i have averaged 5.2l/per 100k in sydney peak traffic this week, the motor has 2,200k up so i'm very happy.
Post by: dannytucker on May 24, 2008, 01:06:02
Mine being manual so far down to 4.4 per 100 whats the autos doin
Post by: Dazzler on May 24, 2008, 08:53:33
My usual range is from 5.1 to 5.4 (can't seem to crack that 5.0 or less for any distance and up until now 5.4 was my worst no matter where or how I drove) Roll on summer (not really going to warm up much down here until September/October.
Rgds,
Dazz
Post by: Seoul-mate on May 24, 2008, 12:01:52
Started out around 5.8L/100km from the dealership and dropped fairly quickly to 5.5L/100km after the first 1000km or so. Then began to drop less quickly to 5.4, then to 5.3 ..................... seemed to sit on 5.2 for ages and ages.
However today, with a little under 4000km on the odometer, it dropped to 5.1 for the first time!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And while this may not sound very low I've got to remember that this average has been achieved on a downward trend. In other words, I'm probably getting under 5.0 now to average out the earlier high-5 figures. So I am looking forward to it dropping even further although I think any further downward changes will probably take a long time to achieve.
I do plan to reset the reading eventually but that will probably be after the car goes in for an intermediate service at 7500km.
P.S. I've done all sorts of driving .....city driving, climbed some hilly terrain,etc,...... but I would say the majority of the driving has been on good, open roads. And in sunnnnyyyyy Queensland I guess the wamer temp might play a part. ( Sorry Dazz )
Post by: Dazzler on May 24, 2008, 12:40:45
You're right M8! (It's not all bad because I bought the wife her Tiida with $1000 free fuel around the same time as the i30 I've been sharing her BPcard - between us we've travelled 8000km in around 10 weeks and used half of the $1000 already!) Hopefully by the time the card runs out the weather will be warming a little!
The new site's good isn't it.
Catch ya later
Dazz
Post by: ouri30 on May 25, 2008, 00:16:37
That is really starting to take shape. Looks interesting and gives a real indication of what can be achieved. Lately I am getting consistenly around the 4.6 - 4.8 over a tank, so you are proably getting close to that at the lowere end of the scale. I do most of my driving on flat country roads. I am finding that I can get better results in the middle of the day when it is warmer than I can first thing in the morning on the way to warm at 7:30am.
I assume you saw my little experiment with the trip meter and DTE (Distance to Empty), where I averaged 4.6 for the tank and got in excess of 1200k comfortably on a tank. It has been good to get the info from various owners, such as yourself as we conduct our own little experiments in our own way.
We are off to Qld tomorrow morning, loaded up with 2 + 2 and luggage, through the back of NSW to Toowoomba. Will return in about a week and should do in excess of 4000km round trip. My intention is to leave the trip computer alone and see what we can achieve. Will be travelling at speed limits for most of that time. When we return the car will be almost due for its 15000km service. Let you all know the fuel consumption results.
Bob
Post by: Seoul-mate on May 25, 2008, 00:43:12
Yes, "ouri30", I followed your experiment with interest. And I'll be interested to hear your fuel figures on the trip to Toowoomba. (Sorry about your Father-in-law)
It would also be interesting to hear what you pay per litre as you travel further north.
Toowoomba is probably going to be quite cool this time of year. We stayed there a few weeks back in a great B&B.....nice place to visit.
Post by: Thumper on May 25, 2008, 03:28:28
Quote from: "ouri30"
Seoul-mate,
That is really starting to take shape. Looks interesting and gives a real indication of what can be achieved. Lately I am getting consistenly around the 4.6 - 4.8 over a tank, so you are proably getting close to that at the lowere end of the scale. I do most of my driving on flat country roads. I am finding that I can get better results in the middle of the day when it is warmer than I can first thing in the morning on the way to warm at 7:30am.
ouri30, this is what I have mentioned here (http://i30ownersclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11), I am finding that the i30 does not like cold weather running.
I've tested blocking off air to the front of the intercooler during cold weather. I've found that the i30 responds favorably to warmer air going into the engine.
I have fitted temperature probes to the bottom of the intercooler, the top of the intercooler and one just in front of the intercooler. I am measuring pre/post intercooler temp and ambient temp.
Now, what I am finding is, the intercooler in the turbo diesel i30 is VERY efficient. On a drive from Bega NSW up the Brown mountain to Cooma NSW, ambient temp in Bega, 14 degrees C. Light running, inlet temp to intercooler ranges from 20-35 degrees C. Outlet temp around 15 degrees C.
Now, going up the Brown mountain. A very long and steep hill. 3rd gear all the way, light to 1/4 throttle, 4 people and luggage, ambient dropped down to 6 degrees C at the top. Inlet temp to the intercooler was 70 degrees C.
Now the surprise, outlet temp of the intercooler at the top of the hill was 10 degrees C.
Ok, it was getting late in the evening, ambient temp was dropping. At Cooma, ambient was -2, inlet into intercooler was 12 degrees C, outlet was -4 degrees C. This was driving on the open flat road, very light throttle input.
This was interesting since it's lower than ambient temp. Only guess was the high humidity in the air causing the temp of the intercooler to drop lower than ambient due to 'wind chill factor' at 100km/h.
My economy was 5.1lt/100km
I pulled over, fitted the custom made screen to the front of the intercooler, idled for a little, watching temps of the intercooler to warm up, then reset the average lt/100km, off I went again.
Ambient air now -4 degrees C, inlet into intercooler 13 degrees C, outlet, 12 degrees C. Economy after 100km, 4.2lt/100km
I have sent an email to Hyundai Australia about this, awaiting a response.
Post by: Dazzler on May 25, 2008, 08:01:38
Glad you are enjoying the site (The warmness between members from far afield is very gratifying)
Thumper, do you think blocking off the air intake to the intercooler could effect the warranty? I would love to improve my economy to be closer to that of Bob and others...
Could the viscosity of the oil also make some difference (cooler temperatures oil running thicker...?)
Very interesting info thanks...
Dazz
Post by: Thumper on May 25, 2008, 10:18:15
Quote from: "dazzling_darryl"
Thumper, do you think blocking off the air intake to the intercooler could effect the warranty? I would love to improve my economy to be closer to that of Bob and others...
Could the viscosity of the oil also make some difference (cooler temperatures oil running thicker...?)
Very interesting info thanks...
Dazz
I've thought about this carefully. (I don't want to cause any warranty issues with a brand new vehicle) My thoughts go along the lines of, if the i30 can drive during Summer weather, 40+ degrees C, then the intercooler would bring down the hot air from the turbo to ambient temp. Thus, watching outlet temps from the intercooler, I am making sure the outlet temp will never go above normal ambient that the i30 would encounter during the middle of summer.
If I notice outlet temps rising above 40 degrees C, I will immediately stop and remove the intercooler cover. So far I haven't seen temps rise above 15 degrees C from the intercooler.
If I forget, and temps rise, causing any damage, then I'll take full responsibility.
When I owned a 2005 Nissan Patrol Turbo Diesel (ZD30 4cyl 3lt) I was driving way out West of Ivanhoe when I ran into a swarm of locusts. , didn't notice anything was wrong until the water temp started to rise above normal, then a slight shudder as thick black smoke poured out the back. I pulled over, let the engine idle whilst opening the bonnet.
Now the Nissan has an air-air intercooler sitting on top of the engine, with a forward facing air scoop on the bonnet feeding fresh air onto the intercooler. Problem was, all the locusts I drove through had been 'sucked' into the inlet and now piling up on top of the intercooler, blocking it off.
This was during the middle of summer, 45+ degree C day, towing 2.9ton worth of car trailer + vehicle.
Cleaned all the dead bugs out of the intercooler, closed the bonnet, off I went again, no problems.
I believe, the i30's intercooler is very efficient, to the point that it is hurting cold weather fuel economy.
As for the oil temp, I'll ask the dealer when it goes in for it's 7,500km service.
Post by: Dazzler on May 25, 2008, 11:25:26
So the input to the intercooler is those 4 "nostrils" above the radiator at the front of the engine compartment? Had a bit of a look today and assumed thats where the air was getting in...
Any chance of posting an image of the cover you use to block them?
Cheers,
Dazz
Post by: Thumper on May 25, 2008, 13:10:19
Post by: Dazzler on May 25, 2008, 13:36:47
Post by: eye30 on May 26, 2008, 12:16:33
Quote from: "i30Dave"
Quote from: "eye30"
Can you post your best and worst over the next few weeks and against each the type of driving i.e. town, motorway leisure, mixed etc
If enough enter details I'll collate and do a summary posting at the end of May.
Well nearly the end of May so it your last chance to post figures.
I'll wade thro' them and post best and worse by the end of the week.
Not sure if each posting has indicated fuel - petrol or diesel or transmission - manual or auto.
If you can just check what you posted and edit that will be appreciated.
Post by: ozsnowman on May 27, 2008, 12:18:45
So rather than tempt fate, i hurried along to my usual pump - turned out i didnt need to worry lol
821.6km for 41.02 litres = 5.06 L/100km!! This includes a weekend in Melbourne where I was fanging it round the streets a lot, but offset that with the highway trips down and back!
My usual way of filling - get it to 5 litres from where i think it will be full (worked out by how many km's I've done).....stop pumping and let it settle for 20 or so secs, then trickle fill the rest. When I hear the pipe filling up just before the click off, I stop again and hold off for about 10 seconds, and then trickle fill to the click
Post by: eye30 on May 29, 2008, 12:10:51
I've taken them from the i30 Owners and H-F sites.
The best posted was 3.8l/100km (74.43 mpg). This was for a manual.
The worst posted 9.7l/100km (29.12 mpg) but this was mainly town driving.
The average was between 4.6 to 5.7 l/100km. (61.41 to 49.56 mpg).
1 posting for a 2l = 8.03 l/100k (34.3 mpg) town/highway driving and AC on.
The average posted for auto was 6.95 to 7.28 l/100km (40.65 to 38.8 mpg).
Not all posted the driving conditions but would appear to be combination of town/urban with a few “touring K’s”.
One interesting comment was that when the weather was cold, consumption rises and 1 posting had:
Cold weather - 5l/100km (56.5 mpg)
Warm weather - 4.4l /100km (64.2 mpg)
Hyundai give the following for diesel i30’s:
Urban1.6 cdri Manual 5.7 l/100k (49.5 mpg) 1.6 crdi Auto 7.6 l/100k(37.2 mpg) 2 l Manual 7.2 l/100k(39.23 mpg)
Extra Urban1.6 cdri Manual 4.1 l/100k(68.8 mpg) 1.6 crdi Auto 4.9 l/100k(57.6 mpg) 2 l Manual 4.4 l/100k(64.2 mpg)
Combined 1.6 cdri Manual 4.7 l/100km(60.1 mpg) 1.6 crdi Auto 5.9 l/100k(47.9 mpg) 2 l Manual 5.5l/100k(51.36 mpg)
(The 1.6 manual Petrol give approx 1.5 to 2 l/100k (14 mpg) less than 1.6 crdi).
Also, look at (I30dave’s correction) s/b ouri30 “Trip Computer Record” on viewtopic.php?f=12&t=38 (https://i30ownersclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=38)
and his average is 4.7 l/100k (60.1 mpg).
Overall most people are happy with the consumption returned and a general comment was as they drive further and get to know the cars quirks the consumption gets better.
Don’t forget driving style influences consumption. So if you have a heavy right foot consumption will be high.
Post by: Seoul-mate on May 29, 2008, 12:58:18
It has been very popular and recieved many replies.
Perhaps we should continue it with people adding their fuel figures and driving details
as I think there will always be interest in this sort of thing.
( Although I wouldn't expect you to have to collate or summarise the figures as you
have done this time around .)
Anyway thanks again for an interesting topic,
Russ
Post by: Dazzler on May 29, 2008, 13:47:43
Just one observation.. When Dave relocated all the posting from the old site only a small reference shows at the top eg.. for the link you posted it was actually ouri30 (bob) who did all the work with the distance to empty log...
Cheers,
Dazz
Post by: Thumper on May 29, 2008, 14:04:41
Oh well, it's quicker than a SR Petrol i30.
Post by: eye30 on May 29, 2008, 16:59:54
for the link you posted it was actually ouri30 (bob) who did all the work with the distance to empty log
Got confussed with the transfer of postings.
Correction:
Sorry Bob.
Take a bow and take the credit.
Post by: Lakes on May 30, 2008, 08:56:01
Quote from: "Thumper"
eye30 nice wrap up of the economy figures. :(
Oh well, it's quicker than a SR Petrol i30. :D
cheers
ps love reading about things like this as it has been my interest to tune motors, my friend has an engine dyno, another friend has a rear wheel dyno with load control
Post by: EymaTeapot on May 30, 2008, 11:32:31
That is one comprehensive list, good work man.
To complicated for me to absorb now just before the footy starts but will enjoy digesting it later
Cheers
Post by: Thumper on May 30, 2008, 12:27:22
Quote from: "Lakes"
Hey Thumper interesting about the pipe, would it cause the injectors to inject more fuel?
Me putting my foot down more, enjoying the extra torque/power from the motor.
Post by: Lakes on May 30, 2008, 14:44:19
Quote from: "Thumper"
Quote from: "Lakes"Hey Thumper interesting about the pipe, would it cause the injectors to inject more fuel?
Me putting my foot down more, enjoying the extra torque/power from the motor.
would have been interesting to test it on a dyno as it was then with the change, sounds good and from a small outlay too. is that muffler that looks like a cat converter thats up the front, is that a partic filter?
Post by: Thumper on May 30, 2008, 15:13:29
Quote from: "Lakes"
Quote from: "Thumper"Quote from: "Lakes"Hey Thumper interesting about the pipe, would it cause the injectors to inject more fuel?
Me putting my foot down more, enjoying the extra torque/power from the motor. :(
Post by: Lakes on May 30, 2008, 22:40:32
would be good to try one of those on board dyno's they just need hooking up but give good information and are a cheap and acurate way to test.
one of my pastime's is drag racing in competition. i have seen guys hook them up and compare against the computer print out. and was spot on. the print out show's reaction time, 60 foot time 330ft time 660 ft time half track speed 1,000ft time 1/4mile time and trap speed, the trap speed can tell you how much power you are putting out.
it will be interesting to see if you gain economy with the new pipe.
Post by: encountar on June 01, 2008, 12:18:50
after my brother and my dad both took it for a drive it was sitting ay 7.5 - damn leadfoots need ot let the car bed in! only 130 k's on the clock
ill keep you guys updated, i drive to work during the middle of the day and come home at night, basically to up hill and from down hill, should be interesting to see how the fuel economy works out there, im assuming i will get less on the trip home because of the coldness and damn fog everywhere(yay fog lights)
ill keep an eye on it maybe write it down for the first 2 weeks of car travel, reseting the meter before each trip, will be interesting to see how it develops (might even do a trip or 2 along the m7 to see which gives the better economy
Post by: Dazzler on June 01, 2008, 12:39:59
Post by: encountar on June 01, 2008, 12:42:07
but to be fair even only revving to 3.5 - 4k it will get to 7 pretty quickly.
im not sure what they did at the dealership but when i first got in the car it was showing 15 l/100 but it very, very quickly declined withing about 2 k's
Post by: Dazzler on June 01, 2008, 12:46:58
Post by: encountar on June 01, 2008, 12:50:12
Post by: Dazzler on June 01, 2008, 12:52:51
Post by: ozsnowman on June 01, 2008, 13:32:15
Quote from: "dazzling_darryl"
At least you got some.... I got the memory stick but no gloves... I have some moist wipes in the glove box to get rid of the smell off my hands.
I got the gloves - they're still sitting next to the spare wher they belong lol
Post by: i30Dave on June 01, 2008, 13:34:01
Quote from: "encountar"
That would explain it :P
Not for filling Diesel anyway
Post by: Lakes on June 02, 2008, 08:56:27
Quote from: "dazzling_darryl"
Geez Mate... I wouldn't have let the Bro and your dad take her unsupervised (7.5 is very high) I'd be peed off!
Dazz you should have been with me when i tested the Ford Focus turbo diesel :D i posted it on a ford sight but they said what would you expect from a test car as everyone thrashes it, i pointed out that i had never seen worse than 17L /Per 100K show on my 5.4 V8 Petrol and that show's 11L /per 100K right now and i've been towing a trailer from home to Eastern Creek raceway. so was worried about what the Focus economy would be like.
cheers
Post by: Dazzler on June 02, 2008, 10:57:07
Post by: Mick on June 08, 2008, 07:04:33
Economy 5.6L/100km. 85% urban driving, short trips around 15% freeway cruisng in 5th gear.
Specifications quote fuel tank is 53 litres. When refueling second click off after 45 litres. Trickled another 11 and a bit litres into it? Total of 56+ litres?
Fuel gauge was on empty,. Low fuel light had been on for about 50 odd kilometres.
Post by: Lakes on June 09, 2008, 11:26:53
Post by: ozsnowman on June 09, 2008, 13:18:23
Post by: Dazzler on June 09, 2008, 13:26:37
Hang on a sec... Wasn't Marcus Ambrose from Tassie
Post by: Mick on June 10, 2008, 08:48:37
This time I filled it till it was visibly foaming and I have done 270km freeway travel and the needle is still on full.
I'll be filling to the brim from now on.
Post by: ozsnowman on June 10, 2008, 12:14:12
Quote from: "Mick"
Seems if you only refuel to the second click, there is still another 12 or so litres that you can put into it. First refuel only put 45 litres in, low fuel light came on at less than 800k's.
This time I filled it till it was visibly foaming and I have done 270km freeway travel and the needle is still on full.
I'll be filling to the brim from now on.
Yeah, but I behaved myself on the trip home from Melbourne ( alot of 5th gear 80km/h driving), and today going to work, and got to 280km before the needle hit the 3/4 full mark - so maybe I was just being a lead-foot after all?
Post by: bdennis on June 11, 2008, 04:15:55
Took a Petrol Auto for a drive today. Was happy with it and could live with it but that voice in my head is sasying stick with the Diesel..
So. My question is.. I ahve read through all the posts re economy and cant seem to find any results for the CRDi Auto..
Any body got any info? Perhaps there is into on the "other site" Will go and have a look..
Any info would be apprecaited before I go mad...
Post by: echocae on June 11, 2008, 04:38:23
so this is my 1st car thats is auto.. :)
Post by: awj2005 on June 11, 2008, 14:21:01
ive got the 2.0 litre petrrol engine.
Worst ive had is 9.6L per 100km
Best ive had is 6.8L per 100km
when i had 9.6L per 100km it was when i just put my pod filter in it and i liked the sound it made at full throttle... LOL
Ash
Post by: Thumper on June 12, 2008, 13:12:51
Sustained over 200km.
(Now that it costs $100 to fill our beasts, this comes as a welcome)
Post by: ozsnowman on June 13, 2008, 14:14:24
Quote from: "ozsnowman"
Yeah, but I behaved myself on the trip home from Melbourne ( alot of 5th gear 80km/h driving), and today going to work, and got to 280km before the needle hit the 3/4 full mark - so maybe I was just being a lead-foot after all?
Hmmm must be something in this - might have to reform my ways after all - 500km done and half tank used! Upshifting early and trying (TRYING) not to rev it hard or going over 100km'h. The second is the hard bit as it is too easy to sit on 120 in that thing!
Post by: Dazzler on June 13, 2008, 18:38:10
Quote from: "ozsnowman"
Hmmm must be something in this - might have to reform my ways after all - 500km done and half tank used! Upshifting early and trying (TRYING) not to rev it hard or going over 100km'h. The second is the hard bit as it is too easy to sit on 120 in that thing!
Yeah, know what you mean...
Post by: ozsnowman on June 18, 2008, 11:45:45
Post by: Dazzler on June 18, 2008, 11:52:13
Post by: Thumper on June 18, 2008, 12:07:17
Quote from: "ozsnowman"
got to 280km before the needle hit the 3/4 full mark - so maybe I was just being a lead-foot after all?
I normally get to around 520km when the fuel gauge gets down to 3/4 of a tank. (1/4 tank used)
Post by: OMVanders on June 18, 2008, 12:14:24
Post by: ozsnowman on June 19, 2008, 00:25:41
. 883.4km for 44.52litres = 5.04l/100km....so close to 5 dammit lol!!!!
Post by: Dazzler on June 19, 2008, 00:47:21
Post by: ozsnowman on June 19, 2008, 04:58:05
Quote from: "dazzling_darryl"
Got to be happy with that.. sounds like you had a lot more than 100kms left when the light came on...
Yeah well, should have been approx 8 litres left so theres a good 120km even at worst consumption. Plus once the light came on I gave up driving sensibly - ended up doing at least 10km with the light on
What has everybody had left when the fuel light comes on in theirs??
Post by: OMVanders on June 19, 2008, 09:35:25
Quote
What has everybody had left when the fuel light comes on in theirs??
Interesting... I just filled up after doing 900km. For the first time I took the time to fill it right to the brim and it took just on 51 litres. The unnerving part about that is that the fuel light hadn't yet come on!! So your guess is as good as mine Ozsnowman!?
Post by: Dazzler on June 19, 2008, 12:29:37
It's probably not as bad as it seems several on the forum have managed to squeeze up to 57 ltrs into their i30 (seems to be a fair bit of capacity in the inlet pipe)...
Rgds,
Dazz
Post by: LowEmissionI30 on June 20, 2008, 00:54:49
So overall my average fuel consumption over 947 km currently stands at a not too shabby 5.4 l / 100km driving around Canberra with a mix of city and inter-town driving (mainly Adelaide avenue for the Canberra aficionados).
Post by: Dazzler on June 20, 2008, 05:21:49
Figure Canberra temperatures would be similar to Devonport Tas at the moment and 5.4 seems to be the magic figure that my TC gravitates towards most of the time...
I try not to get above that as I figure 54 litres = 1000 kms
Post by: ozsnowman on June 20, 2008, 07:10:23
Post by: Thumper on June 21, 2008, 15:38:39
600km 3/4 tank
800km 1/2 tank
1050km 1/4 tank
No low fuel light, yet.
110km/h most of the way. Average is showing 4.5lt/100km will see how close that is to the mark when I finally have to fill up.
Post by: ozsnowman on June 21, 2008, 23:58:50
Quote from: "Thumper"
My last trip, from SA back to ACT, all highway driving. (Coldish weather)
600km 3/4 tank
800km 1/2 tank
1050km 1/4 tank
No low fuel light, yet.
110km/h most of the way. Average is showing 4.5lt/100km will see how close that is to the mark when I finally have to fill up. :lol: [/color]
Post by: Thumper on June 22, 2008, 10:46:03
When does it come on
Post by: EymaTeapot on June 24, 2008, 08:30:33
Being pulled behind a tow truck does'nt count
Post by: Thumper on June 24, 2008, 12:22:17
I filled up with 1325km traveled. DTE went from 55km left to blinking '---'
I put 58.92 lt into the tank. (All the way to the top, like the previous fill)
Trip computer shows average to be 4.5lt/100km.
Actual economy was 4.44lt/100km
To fill, cost AUS$107.65 ($1.827 cpl)
Cost AUS$8.12 per 100km.
This is normal highway and city driving with only modification being the sports exhaust.
Hope this helps people who are thinking about changing their exhaust.
Post by: Dazzler on June 24, 2008, 12:28:34
Post by: awj2005 on June 25, 2008, 14:42:10
dont u mean thumperstruck?
yeah talking bout exhaust systems has it affected the engine in any way cause my hyundai dealer wouldnt give me any details on if i can do it all i got was genuine hyundai crap. but yeah new pb 6.8 litres per hundred km in a petrol engine mite be able to go better i dont know. i usually am flat footing but gave up since fuel prices gave up.
cheers
ash
Post by: Dazzler on June 25, 2008, 23:35:29
Hans Thulstrup was the Scandinavian guy that does all the long distance economy stuff (was just combining "Thumper" with his name...)
Even our most cautious members don't seem to think the exhaust could do any harm and if the installer follows Thumper's guidelines it would be reversible in ten minutes or so.
Thumper might be away doing some techie stuff but when he gets back on the forum would be interested in his opinion as to whether the exhaust he got made up would also fit the petrol model and if it would make a difference to economy on them as well? You would have to think it would...
Rgds,
Dazz
Post by: CRM114 on June 26, 2008, 11:42:40
I have a recently aquired CRDI sx (so sans trip computer) :roll:
Heres hoping things improve soon......or its a second C4.
Philippe
Post by: Dazzler on June 26, 2008, 12:11:03
Welcome to the club..I live in one of the coldest parts of Australia(Tasmania) You say it is cold and have an Aussie email address so which state are you in please?
Even down here the very worst I usually get in my CRDi SLX id 5.5 L/100km... We need to sort your car out (don't like having unhappy i30 owners... :lol: (unless it's an auto????)
If none of these things appear to be the cause I would be going back to your dealer and getting them to connect the diagnostic connector (forget what it is called) to their computers to see if it needs reprogramming.
Hope that helps.
P.S. not taking the micky out of you just having a bit of fun. If there is a problem hope they fix it quickly.
Regards,
Dazz
Post by: EymaTeapot on June 26, 2008, 12:25:29
You didnt say, is your i30 auto or manual?
Post by: CRM114 on June 26, 2008, 12:31:42
thanks for the welcome.
I'm in SA, Adelaide. So its cold but not as cold as your nick of the woods :shock: Tried again later when warm and could not see anything...
Otherwise its a great little car, my wife and I keep fighting for the Hyundai. Its a lot more 'peppy' than the Cit with the similar engine.
Hi eyma
it's a manual
Post by: ozsnowman on June 26, 2008, 12:36:02
Post by: ozsnowman on June 26, 2008, 12:39:25
Quote from: "CRM114"
Last night, setting out from the lights (with headlights behind me) I noticed a smoke haze in the mirror. Admitedly the car was stone cold and I did 'sink the boot' a little on that occasion, but I was still surprisedI doubt that is much...it happens to me quite often when the motor gets above 2500 revs - I notice it more at night when there are headlights behind me, a little puff of diesel hazeTried again later when warm and could not see anything...
Post by: EymaTeapot on June 26, 2008, 13:39:17
7L/100 does seem a bit high. I have a Manual slx deisel and generally have not consistenly been able to match some of the amazing economy figures that some of our memberes here get[ I blame my wife, she drives it mostly and she's a lead foot, sorry dear!] The best economy i got was on a recent trip to the coast where i averaged 4.5L/100. Around town which accounts for most of its use, the trip computer generally sits on 6.3.
I have noticed the fuel economy on ours did seem to improve with a few more K's on it, now reads 6600k. Be patient, and change gears ealier than your instincts tell you and the fuel econ should continue to improve.
PS. good choice of colour. Make sure you vote on the most popular colour poll.
Post by: Dazzler on June 26, 2008, 14:02:25
(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo286/i30ownersclub/Scootercar.gif)
Post by: eye30 on June 26, 2008, 20:47:37
Post by: CRM114 on June 27, 2008, 00:58:07
your economy and driving conditions seem closer to mine than anyone elses on this board, so I'll not panic yet. As it turns out, my wife also ends up driving the I30 more often than not, and...she's a lead foot as well
I think stop start city traffic has a far greater impact than I imagined, and the 6 to 7 l/100 range may well be de rigeur. I say this because the Cit does have a trip computer, and in the same circumstances also returns 6.2 averaged. This is a five KMs trip in congested city traffic (average speed 21km/h) :-0
Maybe the travel is too short, too cold and does not allow the car to 'stretch its legs' enough to return better figures...mmh
Cheers
Philippe
Post by: bdennis on June 27, 2008, 03:27:15
Ah another GT Fan..
I also owned a Phase 1 XW GT HO.. It use to be funny watching the kids at Petrol stations that came and filled up for you.. (in the good old days of service..!) Once the pump got past 80L they started to look around wondering where the fuel was going.. Little did they know the GT HO had a 36 Gal tank...!
Also owned a XB GT with a 28 galon tank.. Would go a Looong way on a tank..!
Post by: Thumper on June 28, 2008, 12:48:39
The 351 with 4V heads decided to throw a leg out the side, so while looking around for a replacement block, a 'friend' offered me a 460 big block that was in his old Ford Galaxy.
This engine was duly fitted, with twin 600 Holly double pumpers, electronic ignition, full race extractors, full manual shift kit fitted to the 3 speed auto, 2,500rpm high stall fitted.
It was an absolute animal! 8-)
Looks like my motor is freeing up nicely.
Post by: EymaTeapot on June 28, 2008, 13:36:56
Post by: Thumper on June 28, 2008, 14:47:55
Post by: ozsnowman on June 29, 2008, 12:19:26
Post by: i30manUK on June 30, 2008, 12:00:31
2.0litre diesel - mainly urban driving - 45mpg = 6.42l/100km (I think!).
I must say that this week I tried to be as economical as possible (got it from 41mpg to 45mpg [6.89 to 6.42])and I've set myself a target of 50mpg (5.65l/100km). Not sure if that will be possible because I do plenty of urban driving and the official figures for this model are 54mpg, I think.
Hopefully as the engine settles down a bit the figures may improve ever so slightly, but anyway I'm happy, as normally I'm used to 19mpg (14.87l/100km).
Don't think I'll be trying Thumper's 'turbo pipe removal' trick, as I don't know enough about these things to risk it.
If you're in the UK, here's a good website to convert from mpg to l/100km - http://www.eforecourt.com/l_100km_mpg_convert.htm (http://www.eforecourt.com/l_100km_mpg_convert.htm)
Post by: Dazzler on June 30, 2008, 12:08:51
Seems pretty impressive for a 2 litre (overall are you happy with your performance and driveability considering how sporty your other ride is?)
Post by: i30manUK on July 01, 2008, 15:21:31
Quote from: "dazzling_darryl"
Seems pretty impressive for a 2 litre (overall are you happy with your performance and driveability considering how sporty your other ride is?)
As my wife likes to walk to work I use the i30 as my daily driver now and I'm very happy with it so far. You can drive it very frugally, as I'm doing currently, but it also has enough poke to keep you awake when the boredom sets in and the eyelids start to drop. To answer your question, the fuel consumption is excellent, it's very comfortable, the ride is quite a good compromise, the steering is easy peasy and it has many of the gadgets I need (parrot bluetooth is my first 'gadget target'). The gearshift is OK, but nothing like as good as the 350Z's. To be totally honest, I feel a bit like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde because I keep having to sneak into the Z for a bit of an adrenalin rush - nothing will ever stop me loving the Z (it's my 2nd one), but the i30 is proving to be a very good purchase.
50mpg here I come! (may take a while to get there, as I was quite heavy on the throttle for the first week or two, until the new pervy style of driving took over).
Post by: eye30 on July 01, 2008, 21:42:30
I'm averaging 53 to 55 mpg around town. Doesnot seem to go below high 40's.
I even had 167.3 mpg!!!! see viewtopic.php?f=12&t=410 (https://i30ownersclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=410)
I find that my driving style has changed since owning the diesel. I stroke the throttle rather than push as I did with petrol car.
The pick up smooth and proactive. In fact I have to keep looking at speedo as it gets to 30 plus without any effort and I have to rein it in.
Post by: Dazzler on July 02, 2008, 11:31:04
i30manUK has the 2.0 litre diesel so that's why he's a bit behind you in the economy stakes...
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I30manUK..
Thanks for the reply..
I'm a Nissan man from way back (May have bought a 200SX if they hadn't stopped importing them over here) Had 6 Nissans and driven many more including 200sx and 350Z so can understand where you're coming from!
Post by: eye30 on July 02, 2008, 22:05:43
Quote from: "dazzling_darryl"
Hi Eye...
i30manUK has the 2.0 litre diesel so that's why he's a bit behind you in the economy stakes....
Quote fro i30manuk
"2.0 litre diesel - mainly urban driving - 45mpg = 6.42l/100km (I think!)"
I was aware he had a 2l. I was trying to show that you can get near to the figures quoted by the manufacturer.
Hy give the following for 2l
urban 7.2l/100km 39.2 mpg
combined 5.5l/100km 51.36 mpg
So on the basis I'm getting 10 mpg less than quoted, i30manUK would expect about for 41mpg.
He has calculated 45 mpg so he is doing exceptionally well and achieving 50 mpg is a goal worth going for.
Post by: Dazzler on July 03, 2008, 10:58:21
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Post by: eye30 on July 03, 2008, 15:47:06
Quote from: "dazzling_darryl"
Sorry Eye wasn't trying to make out you were dumb
You must be getting me mixed up with my brother!!!
He says he is the sensible one and drives a Peugot but has had loads of agro with the dealer.
He likes my i30 and I'm trying to convert him.
Post by: Dazzler on July 04, 2008, 00:50:28
Post by: Alesand on July 05, 2008, 22:56:21
Quote from: "Seoul-mate"
a 2008 Holden Barina 1.6L petrol, but no free fuel with that one!! Gives about 6L/100km and she is very happy with it. ( Of course it is also a Korean car .......a re-badged Daewoo Kalos).
Badge-engineering! In Sweden the Daewoo now is a Chevrolet!
Post by: i30manUK on July 05, 2008, 23:06:43
Post by: Shambles on July 05, 2008, 23:09:23
Quote from: "i30manUK"
I'm up to 46mpg (6.14l/100km) now
*shudders*
I'm returning a very healthy 59mpg over the 7300 miles I've covered. Vey pleasing I must say
Post by: eye30 on July 06, 2008, 13:55:53
well pleased as I do 90% town and 10% motorway
Post by: Dazzler on July 07, 2008, 10:35:15
Wasn't a warm day but probably averaged 12c to 14c outside most of the time (under 10c seems to be when the consumption goes up)..
Been averaging 5.4 most of the time lately so don't know if it's running in (about 8400km up now) or maybe the nice thin 5w30 Castrol Edge Sport I just put in....
Post by: dani on July 07, 2008, 10:51:33
- average speed 90km/h - 4.3l/100km
- average speed 120km/h - 4.7l/100km
- average speed 145km/h - 5.5l/100km
That's showing my board pc
Post by: Dazzler on July 07, 2008, 10:57:57
145KPH... are you naughty :shock:
Post by: dani on July 07, 2008, 11:15:20
Post by: dani on July 07, 2008, 11:37:59
I'm a boy
Post by: Dazzler on July 07, 2008, 11:41:00
Post by: dani on July 07, 2008, 11:43:02
My name is Danail, but everybody call me "dani".
Post by: Dazzler on July 07, 2008, 11:46:42
Mostly women are "wary of love"... he says philosophically...
Sorry again for the misunderstanding...
Post by: Hemmi on July 07, 2008, 19:20:16
Post by: Dazzler on July 07, 2008, 23:44:04
Post by: ozsnowman on July 11, 2008, 13:56:11
Filled to the brim tonight after 1089.6 km - 54.76 litres for 5.03 lt/100km
For our foreigh friends, 56.16 uk mpg and 46.47 us mpg
Driving to Qld in a few weeks, no reason why I cant approach 1200km to a tank if I behave myself
Post by: ouri30 on July 11, 2008, 14:14:47
Enjoy your Qld trip. A month or so ago I got 4.9l/100 on a 4000+km round trip to Qld and return, with luggage and four of us in the car. While we were careful in the way we drove, we sat on the speed limit most of the time.
Bob
Post by: Lakes on July 11, 2008, 21:43:53
also like Bob i have found if you drive on the speed limit's 100kph 110kph or 10% over to allow for the fast speedo, and if you keep your revs to 2,000 b4 shift up's and only rev past 2,000 in 5th gear you can get 4.9 easy enough ( surprised me a few times that i got 4.9 the way i drove ) but if you really want good economy sit on 90KPH all the way i or the best economy watch you tach and keep the rev @ 1,900. i got 4.4L / 100K doing that. also i have driven all week with my tyre's at 42 psi front and 40 psi rear like THUMPER and no problem with the ride i like the steering feel better too, so try that but check and set tyre pressure cold.
i'm just about to leave to take my car to have the Thumper system fitted, i think this will help my economy when i drive on speed limitds of 110kph, but will wait and see.
anyway have a great trip its a good road from Vic up to Qld straight up to Syd then take the M7 then the M2 but you won't know as they seem like the one road just you get two tolls ( it hooks up to the M5 ) take the pennant hills exit from the M2 turn left just follow that for about 10k's and you get to the F3 then it's freeway ( please note freeway mean's free no charge :D ) then take the coast road up as it's by far the best way now watch those fixed speed cameras m8!
have fun
Post by: Thumper on July 11, 2008, 23:16:41
At 90km/h when it's warm I can average between 3.2lt/100km and 4.0lt/100km (Depending on the terrain)
When it's cold (Below 8 degrees C) and on the highway, I average around 4.9lt/100km. (This is when I fit the intercooler cover and watch the economy drop back to around 4.5lt/100km)
Before I did the exhaust, best I could do in the cold and on the highway (110km/h) was 5.1-5.2lt/100km.
Post by: foxey on July 12, 2008, 05:58:52
Post by: i30manUK on July 12, 2008, 07:35:49
Last week, when I got it to 47mpg I thought I'd reset the computer and see how I do with my new economical style of driving...
After a few journeys in mainly town traffic I'm delighted to report that the engine has returned a figure of 51mpg (5.54l/100km). This is even better than the official Hyundai stats suggest (in fact 51mpg is the official figure for mixed urban and non-urban driving) so I'm really happy, look - - - :D
Post by: ouri30 on July 12, 2008, 09:02:38
That fuel economy is looking good for you. And I'd bet, the more you drive the better it will get as the engine settles in and you get the hang of driving a torguey (probably not a word) diesel.
foxey,
I agree with you about the best highway to use driving through to Qld. The Newel or New England highways are the best way to go.
Bob
Post by: Thumper on July 12, 2008, 09:34:39
-2 degrees C all the way into work this morning (100km trip at 110km/h) Then back home, 100km was 3 degrees C. No intercooler cover.
200km, 5.3lt/100km
Not happy!
Tomorrow on the way to work I'll fit the intercooler cover and see what a difference that makes.
Post by: Dazzler on July 12, 2008, 11:25:11
Post by: Lakes on July 12, 2008, 11:28:44
Quote from: "foxey"
You're kidding if the coast road is the best way to Qld.. too many speed cameras, too many towns, too many tourists, too many stops.. uhhhggg... take the New England Hwy, via Singleton, straight to Tamworth and up to Stanthorpe (Gods Country) and then to Brisbane, I do this road several times a year and also the coast road (reluctantly) several times a year and I know which way I'd rather go.. If it wasn't for the NSW RTA wasting our money on 50km/hr Speed Cameras at the start of every one horse town then New England would be a dream run like it was 20 yrs ago..but still better than fighting traffic all the way..
M8 i always used the new england to QLD but these days the coast road is by far quicker and has 110kph speed limit part of the way, at no part has the new england got 110KPH speed limit. when was the last time you drove up the coast road from sydney m8?
Cheers
PS i once did a very quick trip to Qld in a GTHO with big tank back in the early 70's on the new england, when they had the tick gate on QLD boarder
Post by: eye30 on July 12, 2008, 11:40:36
I've notoiced the ecomony is getting better as the engine beds in, 6K now.
The read out seem to fluctuate between 49 to 55 with a mean of 52 MPG
Post by: ozsnowman on July 12, 2008, 14:53:25
Quote from: "Lakes"
Quote from: "foxey"M8 i always used the new england to QLD but these days the coast road is by far quicker and has 110kph speed limit part of the way, at no part has the new england got 110KPH speed limit. when was the last time you drove up the coast road from sydney m8?
May I ask where these 110km zones are? I'm heading up that way next month and havent been on it in a few years, so am interested to see where they've improved! Thanks!
Post by: Lakes on July 12, 2008, 20:52:41
Quote from: "ozsnowman"
Quote from: "Lakes"Quote from: "foxey"M8 i always used the new england to QLD but these days the coast road is by far quicker and has 110kph speed limit part of the way, at no part has the new england got 110KPH speed limit. when was the last time you drove up the coast road from sydney m8?
May I ask where these 110km zones are? I'm heading up that way next month and havent been on it in a few years, so am interested to see where they've improved! Thanks!
Snowman i'll tell you speeds and on what section from Vic NSW boarder to QLD you have 110KPH to Albury then of and on till you hit the freeway near dog on tuckerbox then it's 110kph to the M7 turn off the M7 is 100KPH then you hit M2 at the start that is 90kph then it is 100kph to the toll booth but if you have a tag you get e tolled, then it's mostly 70kph up to the F3 that starts off at 80KPH then after a few K's it is 110KPH to Hawksberry bridge then 100KPH to the Moony Bridge then 110KPH to the end of F3 you get varing speeds to just outside ramond terrace then it's 110KPH to just outside bulladella its 110KPH again then you get up near pub with no beer it's varring speeds stays varrying to just outside Ballina then it's just GO 110KPH all the way and you have virtually freeway to Brisbane with exit to Gold Coast. the speed camera's in NSW are all well sign posted you get three big warning signs b4 the camera and if you are in the 110KPH zone no way you would get caught doing 110KPH or even 115KPH on the i30 speedo. also plan your trip fill up in Sydney as the country area's will have higher priced diesel but could fill up at end of F3 at the BP there as you go past that then you can make it to QLD they normally sell for 10 cents cheaper than all other state's, but they are taking that away from interstate drivers soon and only giving cheap fuel to QLD licence holders
have a good time mate, what part of QLD?
Post by: Thumper on July 13, 2008, 09:55:55
Quote from: "Thumper"
Grrrr, worst economy to date.
-2 degrees C all the way into work this morning (100km trip at 110km/h) Then back home, 100km was 3 degrees C. No intercooler cover.
200km, 5.3lt/100km 8-)
Post by: Lakes on July 13, 2008, 10:09:01
thanks Lakes
Post by: foxey on July 13, 2008, 10:42:55
Post by: Thumper on July 13, 2008, 10:49:35
Quote from: "Lakes"
Thumper, what temp does it have to be below b4 you fit the intercooler cover? and at what temp do you remove the cover? any noticible loss in power with the cover on?
thanks Lakes
Lakes I notice an increase in power and a reduction in throttle lag from off-boost / on-boost application. (This is when it's below 5 degrees C)
As you know, you don't have to stay on boost long (Under a few seconds) when driving the i30 diesel at normal road speeds.
I put the cover on when the ambiant temp drops below 10-8 degrees C.
Interestingly, I received an email from Hyundai Australia regarding my questions on fitting the cover, their response was akin to not even reading what I had sent.
This is what I sent:
"After purchasing a Hyundai i30 Diesel SLX manual, I have noticed over the last two weeks that ambient air temperatures play an important role in fuel economy. Normal highway driving when the ambient air temp is above 18 degrees C will return average fuel economy of 4.1lt/100km Yet, drive on the same highway, in the same direction, later in the evening, ambient air temp is now 2 degrees C, average fuel economy is now 5.1lt/100km As a test, I drove back to the original starting point, placed a cover over the front of the intercooler, then drove the same trip, this time ambient air temp had dropped to -1 degrees C, average fuel economy went back down to 4.0lt/100km Drove 100km back up the road, removed the cover from the front of the intercooler, ambient air temp still -1 degrees C, average fuel economy jumped up to 5.2lt/100km I have spoken to the local Hyundai dealer where I am currently staying, and they were surprised to hear these findings, yet would look into it. (Though they did not request my name or contact details for following up) I am asking Hyundai Australia if they have heard of issues relating to low ambient air temps affecting the i30 Diesel in this way, before, and if light running on the highway during winter with a cover over the intercooler would be a cause for concern? (Temperature probes on the inlet and outlet of the intercooler show temps never rise above 55 degrees C, entering the engine, when driving sedately along the highway with a cover over the intercooler.) Yet, when the cover has been removed from the intercooler, I have noticed outlet temps to hover around 4 degrees C when ambient air temps are around -2 degrees C, when out on the highway, light load. If it's possible, could a technician from Hyundai let me know about these findings, to advise what else I can do in the future to keep my economy figures as low as possible over the winter period. Thank you. "
Their reply:
"Thank you for your email.
Fuel consumption should improve in cooler weather. This is because cooler
air is more dense.
There is no relation between the engine management system and the ambient
temperature sensor.
I hope this information is of assistance. "
I wonder if they (Hyundai) actually read what I sent.
Post by: Dazzler on July 13, 2008, 12:11:04
Doesn't it "P" you off when you get a reply like that. I new member Martin might have more clout with findings like that...
Surprised no one else has commented yet on this exciting development in our club (see introduce yourself...)
Cheers,
Dazz
Post by: ozsnowman on July 13, 2008, 12:39:55
Quote from: "Lakes"
have a good time mate, what part of QLD?
Thanks for the info dude! We're going up along the coast from Sydney to the Goldie, got 10 nights there, then up to Rockhampton for 4 or 5 days - I want to try a day trip over to keppel
Then home straight down the guts! Will be good this year, as I havent got above Hervey bay before.
Post by: Lakes on July 13, 2008, 19:58:18
Quote from: "foxey"
Lakes.. frankly the last time I took the coast road was 6 months ago and I couldn't do 110k anywhere (well maybe I could in small pockets but not all the time) - just too much traffic, plus the great and wonderful NSW RTA decided to shut one lane of the highway northbound all the way to Ballina .."for safety reasons" .. granted it was during school holidays but it put me off .. I try to avoid it now , New England on the other hand is virtually zero traffic and you don't need to do 110km.hr, just sit on 90 -100 is perfect for easy safe and economical cruising.. plus I find the drive much better .. just nice open country..
Foxy, can understand what you mean m8. a friend of mine road our Harleys up to the Gold Coast fews years back and there was school holidays on, lot of traffic & police. the traffic did not worry us just could not ride like we like to with all those police trawling. so we went back via new england. took us longer but as you said less traffic and no police that we saw. in a car would be different . yes i agree driving at 90KPH is better for economy specially in the i30. but i have always been in a hurry to get there
Post by: Lakes on July 13, 2008, 20:06:37
Quote from: "ozsnowman"
Quote from: "Lakes"have a good time mate, what part of QLD?
Thanks for the info dude! We're going up along the coast from Sydney to the Goldie, got 10 nights there, then up to Rockhampton for 4 or 5 days - I want to try a day trip over to keppel
Then home straight down the guts! Will be good this year, as I havent got above Hervey bay before.
That will be great m8! and returning down the guts is the fast way if your up North QLD as the coast is like a boomerang in shape. i've been to Townsville ,the Bruce Hwy is the most borring stretch of road!! you go all the way and all you see is tree's i think i saw the coast once between Rocky & mackay, Mackay is beautifull mate so is Prospine & all the Islands, have not been to great keppel but i'm sure you will have fun wish it was me!
cheers
ps up early haveing breaky b4 work, we have the pope here in sydney for a week.
Post by: Shambles on July 13, 2008, 20:12:02
Quote from: "Lakes"
... we have the pope here in sydney for a week.Make sure he says sorry. We all know what I mean :twisted:
Post by: Lakes on July 14, 2008, 11:13:18
yes m8.seem's everyone is sorry in Australia this year. did you know the Pope loves stray Cats? they took a young kitten to him so he would feel at home. he sounds like a wise man and a good ol boy, but if you want to hear him talk it costs $150 each. i'm enjoying it so far, not as busy as when the olympic's was on but it's just starting so have to wait, i loved it when olympics were on it was like a big party in sydney.
Post by: EymaTeapot on July 14, 2008, 12:25:14
We, that is my wife and two boys are heading for Merimbula for a few days. It is a pretty little coastal town on the lower south coast of NSW. I reset the trip computer today and filled it with deisel, $187.9 p/L OUCH!!. I have never attempted to push the 1000k barrier before as it mostly drives around town and never let it get to low on fuel. The Canberra-Merimbula trip is only around 550k but I might take a day trip to goulbourn or something as well to push up the k's.
Anyway, I decided if I am to have any chance of reaching 1000k, i should really fill the tank. I managed to fit a further 12L in the tank from the first time the vouser cut off by filling till it foamed up, waiting a few seconds than filling again till the foam rose to the top. I repeated this process again and again till the foam didnt retract quickly, didnt want to push my luck to far and fill deise on the duco.
So now I want to fill it till the fuel light comes on. Can anyone tell me from experience how far I can push it with the fuel light comes on without running out.
Thanks,
I will post the results of my econ run as they unfold
Post by: Dazzler on July 14, 2008, 12:30:05
You should be able to go at least 50km with the fuel light on before the distance to empty goes to - - (when it hits about 50-55kms left)
Think most of us try to find a garage pretty quickly once that happens... Isn't that right BOB
Post by: ouri30 on July 14, 2008, 12:48:45
Since you have the SLX with trip computer, I offer the following from experience.
Keep on eye on the DTE and you will find that it is about spot on when there is about 200km to go. When it reaches 50km to empty, it will blank out (_ _ _). I would fill up asap when the display balnks out.
The fuel light has come on for us somewhere between 50km and 100km remaining.
Bob
Post by: EymaTeapot on July 14, 2008, 12:51:15
Don't fancy having to push it.
Post by: ozsnowman on July 14, 2008, 13:07:42
Post by: Lakes on July 14, 2008, 20:20:22
i drove from Sydney to Mystery Bay then back up to Mogo then back to Mystery bay then back to sydney then went to work for two days b4 filling up, and i was not driving that slow . but i fill tank right up.
Post by: EymaTeapot on July 22, 2008, 05:04:42
We are back from our trip to Merimbula on the south coast of NSW. The trip was very pleasant and the car handled beautifully, strongly recommend lowering the car that bit to really enjoy the twisting curves of brown mountain.
On the trip there we averaged 5.4lp/100. I was happy with that as we were loaded to the max with parents and 2 kids (11 & 9) and enough luggage for a week. Also, it was an extremely cold day. The temperature gauge read 2 degrees all the way from Canberra to the brown mountain before the temp started to increase as we neared the coast. Did you know that a little snowflake appears on the lcd display when it gets as low as 2 degrees or less?
We did a fair bit of sight seeing around the area and by the time we returned to Canberra, we had 750km on the clock with still 1/4 of a tank left. We have done some city driving since and have approx 850k on clock and the computer says I have 120 DTE so may not quite make the 1000k. We will see.
Two things put a bit of a sour finish to the trip though. The first was that some low life tried to steal the 18" Alloys off my car. It was parked directly outside our motel room at the time. I discovered it the next morning with two wheel nuts missing off the front drivers side wheel. After removing two nuts, they must have discovered that the alloys were fitted with a lock nut on each wheel and given up. I know I had a full set of nuts on the car when I left home because I checked the tyre pressure before setting out. Nobody around Merimbula could help me with replacement nuts (10mm allen key type) so I put a complete set of 5 nuts on the front and drove home with a nut short on the rear wheels. The good people at Bob Jane Belconnen replaced the nuts free of charge.
The other disapointment was that the car was filthy on return so I decided to give it a good clean. I washed it, Vacuumed it and cleaned the windows. I also polished the wheels and decided to finish it off with a waxing. This is where the trouble started. While bending down polishing a lower panel, I felt something give in my back. The pain was excruciating.
Anyway, it seems I have slipped a disk in my lower back and also done some nerve damage. Its not the first time I have done my back either, not bad for someone only 40 years young. :D
Post by: EymaTeapot on July 22, 2008, 10:28:30
Post by: Dazzler on July 22, 2008, 11:01:16
Sorry to hear about your back... Lucky you spotted the missing nuts, could have been dangerous driving with your nuts missing..... :D
Cheers,
Dazz
Post by: EymaTeapot on July 22, 2008, 11:27:10
No i have'nt converted the exhaust yet but it will happen. Have you noticed any improvement in fuel economy since your new system went on Dazz?
Post by: Lakes on July 22, 2008, 11:51:28
Sorry to hear about your back!
and it makes me very sad, when i hear things like that 9 people trying to steal your wheels)!
ps i'll be doing the trip this weekend so will post economy.
Post by: Dazzler on July 22, 2008, 12:08:31
Only done probably 40 kms in very cold weather and it's showing 5.2 (better than the 5.4-5.5 before I zeroed it) won't be able to really judge until I do a longer trip.
rgds,
Dazz
Take it easy m8
Post by: Thumper on July 22, 2008, 13:04:27
4.9lt/100km averaged.
As for how far you can go, I have done 100km once the DTE started to flash [---]
Put 59.95lt back into the tank after that trip.
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Post by: Dazzler on July 22, 2008, 14:10:38
Post by: EymaTeapot on July 23, 2008, 07:10:01
Post by: Lakes on July 23, 2008, 10:54:08
furthest i've been on one tank and with stock pipe was 1,200K i felt then 1,300 would be within reach if you took care.
Post by: EymaTeapot on July 24, 2008, 12:07:06
Unfortunatley I failed in my quest to reach the magic 1000km mark, but only just. The trip meter currently sits on 946km.I have done about 40km since the DTE went from 50km to (---). By my reckoning, i could maybe push another 20k out of her but i dont want to run out of fuel on a busy intersection so i think i will concede defeat this time. :lol:
We head to Coffs Harbour later in the year. The road tends to be flatter and the temperature warmer, so will give the 1000km mark another crack than. We will be fully loaded again, maybe we could leave the kids behind. :|
Post by: foxey on July 24, 2008, 13:09:00
Quote
Put 59.95lt back into the tank after that trip.
I didn't know you could get 59 ltrs in a 53ltr tank... whats the story ? I think I'm missing something here...
Post by: i30manUK on July 24, 2008, 13:48:57
Quote from: "foxey"
I didn't know you could get 59 ltrs in a 53ltr tank... whats the story ? I think I'm missing something here...
...or maybe someone could check that diesel pump?
Just a thought.
Post by: Thumper on July 25, 2008, 04:55:53
Don;t forget, 53lt is your tank size. (There is still the filler neck from the top to the tank that can be taken into account.)
Every vehicle I have owned I've found that I can put more into the tank than what it says it can hold, no matter what service station I'm at.
EymaTeapot I bet that if you had an intercooler cover fitted you would be able to crack that 1,000 limit now during our cold weather. :P
Post by: EymaTeapot on July 25, 2008, 05:51:31
I dont doubt your claims about the temperature contributing to bettet fuel economy.
The good news, by summer us deisel owners will get even better fuel economy. :(
Post by: bikejockey on July 25, 2008, 07:49:30
"The bad news, by summer we will be paying over $2.00 litre."
Maybe not - I saw one of my local servos selling diesel at 183.9 yesterday.
Post by: EymaTeapot on July 25, 2008, 09:35:31
I filled up today at Caltex Gungahlin and paid $184.9 or $180.9 after shopper docket discount. That is the best price I have got in a while.
When driving to Merrimbula last week, I saw it advertised at $194.9 at Williamsdale, a small village just near the border. I think its actually on the NSW side. If they're paying that much so close to a major city, I shudder to think what you might pay in remote areas of say west NSW or the Northern Territory.
Post by: bikejockey on July 26, 2008, 07:03:06
This was the Mobil station at Southlands - still 183.9 this morning. Point is he was 188.9 earlier in the week.
One can only hope...
Post by: Thumper on July 26, 2008, 11:38:25
Post by: bikejockey on July 27, 2008, 03:38:24
Post by: chylld on July 27, 2008, 08:48:50
Post by: Thumper on July 27, 2008, 09:32:45
Quote from: "chylld"
How do you guys get such good fuel consumption!?? :)
You are doing everything correctly.
It is just that the i30 CRDi hates cold weather. It uses more fuel when it drops below 10 degrees C. (I've proven this time and time again)
Ok, firstly, I have a free flowing exhaust that passes the legal sound levels when it was tested by the motor vehicle registry.
Secondly I fitted two temperature probes to the inlet system (One before the intercooler, and one after the intercooler) to measure pre and post intercooler temperatures. I have found that when ambient air temp drops below 10 degrees C, the intercooler is very efficient, thus the inlet charge air temp will drop, to the point that I have seen temps below ambient. (Outside air temp was -2, pre intercooler temp was 3 degrees C, post intercooler temp at 110km/h was -4 degrees C)
This was due to the windchill effect on the intercooler in cold humid conditions.
So I have fitted a cover that goes in front of the intercooler when ambient air temp drops below 10 degrees C. (I take the cover off when temp goes above 10 degrees C)
I've found the engine warms up quicker on very cold mornings (-6 the other morning) is more responsive during very cold weather and uses less fuel.
Just remember it's not just low revs that help, it's also keeping the engine off boost when at low revs.
Winter blend diesel contains additives to stop it gelling up when cold, thus you'll use slightly more diesel when it's a winter blend compared to a summer blend.
How many kilometers has your vehicle traveled? I'm at 14,000km now and I'm 'just' noticing a slight freeing up of the engine.
Post by: chylld on July 27, 2008, 10:20:49
i think you make a good point about being off boost not just low revs... i tend to give it quite a good amount of throttle until i can just feel the boost come on and then i ease off. perhaps i should be even gentler heheh
Post by: EymaTeapot on July 27, 2008, 11:51:33
I seem to get fuel econ figures more like those you state. Our car does 90% city driving, and living in Canberra, the climate in winter is nothing to write home about. As Thumper has illustrated, fuel econ in the cooler conditions is not so great. We tend to get around 6 L/p100 around town. I think this is quite acceptable. On the highway I have managed figures as low as 4.4L/p100 but usually I am fully loaded and pushing the speed limit so get more like 5-5.5 L/p100.
Post by: ozsnowman on July 27, 2008, 13:28:55
Doing this i get 200+km before the needle even moves off Full, with 1090km for my last tank at a fraction over 5lt/100km
Post by: chylld on July 27, 2008, 13:40:12
Quote from: "ozsnowman"
Dont forget, mate that a lot of us use the 'fill to the brim' method of refueling...ie trickle fill until the inlet pipe is also nearly full - but can make you put 57 litres in a 53 litre tank lol
Doing this i get 200+km before the needle even moves off Full, with 1090km for my last tank at a fraction over 5lt/100km
this sounds like a neat trick, although i would be a tad worried about the fuel expanding and having no room to go. that said i've never heard my diesel go 'pshhhh' when i unscrew the valve cap, whereas i heard it all the time with my previous petrol cars. (is that a petrol only thing maybe?)
btw are you also snowman on ocau?
Post by: ozsnowman on July 27, 2008, 22:26:41
Quote from: "chylld"
although i would be a tad worried about the fuel expanding and having no room to go.Yeah I think diesel isnt as bad in that dept, but after I refuel, I have a 23km drive home, so I will have used a litre or so by that stage anyway!
Quote from: "chylld"
btw are you also snowman on ocau? :lol:
Post by: yggy on August 03, 2008, 11:43:14
2400km and counting...
Post by: CHB on August 07, 2008, 14:29:51
Quote from: "chylld"
Quote from: "ozsnowman"Dont forget, mate that a lot of us use the 'fill to the brim' method of refueling...ie trickle fill until the inlet pipe is also nearly full - but can make you put 57 litres in a 53 litre tank lol
Doing this i get 200+km before the needle even moves off Full, with 1090km for my last tank at a fraction over 5lt/100km
this sounds like a neat trick, although i would be a tad worried about the fuel expanding and having no room to go. that said i've never heard my diesel go 'pshhhh' when i unscrew the valve cap, whereas i heard it all the time with my previous petrol cars. (is that a petrol only thing maybe?)
btw are you also snowman on ocau?
I got same problem as you...got less than a quarter tank left and i'm on 700k's....looks doubtful that i'll even get close to 850
I don't even push the car hard, i try to change before 2500 RPM....also the only reason its even that high is cause i drove to sydney once..else i'd probably be looking at 600km for a tank
Post by: yggy on August 07, 2008, 16:18:18
6.2lL/100km
Mostly highway 130-140kmh+A/C and some city + A/C...
Post by: Lakes on August 07, 2008, 20:28:00
thats in rural area's.
driving in Sydney useing Caltex Vortex premium Diesel i have 650k on this tank and gauge is showing just above half way mark, but that does not mean i'm saying half a tank as i filled right up and gauge did not start to move till i had covered around 250k 300k. by next week i'll have 1,000 on the tank in sydney and will fill up see if the Vortex fuel has helped economy or not.
Post by: yggy on August 08, 2008, 01:11:50
I tried to drive at 90km/h and fuel consumption is rapidly smaller.
I'm happy with this fuel consumption, I had Opel Corsa C 1.3 CDTi 68HP which used to spend 5.7-6.0L/100km at 120-130km/h and with A/C on...
BTW, i30 can easily maintain 150-160km/h for as long as you want :shock:
Post by: EymaTeapot on August 08, 2008, 04:29:57
Enjoying the Canberra winter? The cold weather in itself makes it hard to get the betst fuel econ figures.
Like you, i generally dont get near 1000k to a tank. In the past i would get around 800-850klm but that is all Canberra driving and as you no doubt know, the traffic can move slow at times.
I have more recently been nudging the 1000k mark and put this down to filling the tank right up to the brim.
I fill the tank till the nozzle cuts off, than carefully keep filling till I can see the fuel. It tends to froth up and than retreats. It takes patients but I have found that I get an extra 8-9 litres from the time it cuts off the first time.
Post by: Lakes on August 08, 2008, 11:55:57
Post by: ozsnowman on August 08, 2008, 12:53:22
Quote from: "EymaTeapot"
I fill the tank till the nozzle cuts off, than carefully keep filling till I can see the fuel. It tends to froth up and than retreats. It takes patients but I have found that I get an extra 8-9 litres from the time it cuts off the first time.
I've found that I roughly get another 10 litres in after the first click, so that is what I am going to do for consintency from now on - precisely 10 litres and thats it, then I can have an accurate record of fuel
Post by: Dazzler on August 08, 2008, 12:57:42
Pays to try and use the same pump too. Two reasons, some pumps click off earlier than others and also some garage driveways slope differently to others...
Post by: Lakes on August 08, 2008, 22:29:53
Post by: CHB on August 09, 2008, 04:24:38
Quote from: "EymaTeapot"
Hi CHB,
Enjoying the Canberra winter? The cold weather in itself makes it hard to get the betst fuel econ figures.
Like you, i generally dont get near 1000k to a tank. In the past i would get around 800-850klm but that is all Canberra driving and as you no doubt know, the traffic can move slow at times.
I have more recently been nudging the 1000k mark and put this down to filling the tank right up to the brim.
I fill the tank till the nozzle cuts off, than carefully keep filling till I can see the fuel. It tends to froth up and than retreats. It takes patients but I have found that I get an extra 8-9 litres from the time it cuts off the first time.
hehe yeah, i'm pretty sure thats part of the problem...that damn weather! 7 degrees this sunday *brrRRr*
I'm definately glad that canberra traffic is not lik sydney traffic haha...
i'm hating how diesel hasn't dropped much in comparison to unleaded ...and by the time petrol stations give us the real cost of fuel(~135c ulp) then the fuel cost would be back up already
Post by: ozsnowman on August 09, 2008, 05:10:00
Quote from: "dazzling_darryl"
Hi Snowman,
Pays to try and use the same pump too. Two reasons, some pumps click off earlier than others and also some garage driveways slope differently to others...
Yep I do that as much as possible...lucky pump 13 :D So this may be my last post for a little while!:)
Post by: Lakes on August 13, 2008, 08:23:32
Quote from: "ozsnowman"
Quote from: "dazzling_darryl"Hi Snowman,
Pays to try and use the same pump too. Two reasons, some pumps click off earlier than others and also some garage driveways slope differently to others...
Yep I do that as much as possible...lucky pump 13 :D So this may be my last post for a little while!:)
Hope you are enjoying your trip Snowman, don't melt in that Queensland sun m8
and lets know how it all went.
Post by: ozsnowman on August 19, 2008, 07:26:18
Well, so far - have only filled Wiggy twice, with well over 2000km done so far. 48 litres from Shepparton to Newcastle driving through rain snow and Sydney traffic!! From newcastle to surfers and around for a week, and filled up at 1040 just because I was going to Brissy for the day - and it took 45 litres. (and that included some seriously agro driving after being held up after Taree by Pacific hwy roadworks....got to Coffs Harbour with 2 mins to spare at reception lol)
Looking good - will check in again next week!
Post by: Lakes on August 19, 2008, 08:01:37
Post by: yggy on August 19, 2008, 08:57:47
Post by: Dazzler on August 19, 2008, 10:57:36
Post by: Lakes on August 19, 2008, 19:54:29
Post by: Thumper on August 22, 2008, 08:50:53
370.2km traveled.
3.9lt/100km shown on trip computer
10lt used.
Works out to be 3.7lt/100km
Who said a free flowing exhaust doesn't do anything?
(Adding to this, ambient temp never got above 7 degrees C, and I had rain for 75% of the trip)
Post by: ozsnowman on August 24, 2008, 13:51:51
Fuel has been pretty consistent price too
Post by: Lakes on August 24, 2008, 20:40:47
Quote from: "Thumper"
Filled all the way to the top at Yass (NSW), drove down to Wagga, 15,000km service done, drove back to Yass and filled up again all the way to the top, same pump, same day. (Yass is the nearest service station/town to me)
370.2km traveled.
3.9lt/100km shown on trip computer
10lt used.
Works out to be 3.7lt/100km
Who said a free flowing exhaust doesn't do anything? ;) , thats a good road down there, i know it gets freezing too. the roads i've been useing are harder to get good economy on but i'm happy with economy.
hey Ozsnowman looks like you are enjoying useing the power
Post by: ozsnowman on August 24, 2008, 22:08:15
Quote from: "Thumper"
Filled all the way to the top at Yass (NSW
(Adding to this, ambient temp never got above 7 degrees C, and I had rain for 75% of the trip)
Geez, thumps, when I came through Yass 2 weeks ago I had snow :D how much are they selling diesel for up QLD?[/quote]
Umm, yeah there was a bit of hooning around Surfers in traffic - was quite fun lol. But still used very little fuel! Last time up there I was in my VT and hooning around Surfers in that got my consumption up to 14l/100km!!! Most of my highway running has also been at 110-120, so wasn't going for outright economy
Diesel in Surfers was as low as 158.9 but as I only use BP the cheapest was 161.9 - even way up here in Rockhampton its still only 165.9 - considering I paid 177.9 on that first day in Shepparton!
Post by: ozsnowman on August 24, 2008, 22:15:36
Average usage so far - 4.99 l/100km's!!
Post by: Shambles on August 24, 2008, 22:21:06
I like that word - it's new to me
Post by: Dazzler on August 24, 2008, 23:12:48
Post by: ozsnowman on August 27, 2008, 22:16:00
Found out when overtaking the car seems to pick up a bit as the speed goes through 120km/h, I figure im hitting the power band finally. Quite often I looked down and the car was sitting comfortably on 140km/h having drifted up as i was going down the road. The road was quite empty, but others cars etc were also sitting on these speeds lol. Wanted to go faster but lost nerve finally!
Post by: ouri30 on August 28, 2008, 04:02:36
I was up in Qld last week. Drove south from Toowoomba - Goondi then down the Newell on Monday. Found that when doing 120 it was closer to 113kph - that damn speedo. We use the GPS and the ScanGuage as they give more accurate speeds.
We averaged 5.0 LPH for the trip from SA to Qld and return. We sat around the speed limit for most of the trip.
Loved those lower Qld fuel prices, but only got to fill up once (in Toowoomba). That car only needs filling up about every 1000-1100 km - no complaints about that.
Bob
Post by: ozsnowman on August 28, 2008, 13:14:17
Quote from: "ouri30"
I was up in Qld last week. Drove south from Toowoomba - Goondi then down the Newell on Monday. Found that when doing 120 it was closer to 113kph - that damn speedo. We use the GPS and the ScanGuage as they give more accurate speeds.
Yeah I've found before its about the same for me, so I was quite happy sitting on 120 at least all day
Quote from: "ouri30"
We averaged 5.0 LPH for the trip from SA to Qld and return. We sat around the speed limit for most of the trip.I've just averaged mine out from first to last fill. 5181km, 260.67 litres for a total of 5.03l/100km. I didnt need to fill up at Goondwinidi but I did because the fuel there was only 160.9! Get it while I could. Refuelled on way home today at Jerilderie (166.0 - very reasonable) - if I hadnt done the whole 140-160km/h stint yesterday I would have had enough to get over the border! Almost covered the whole of NSW in one tank :) Couldnt have asked for a better car - just maybe a slightly more comfy drivers seat (lower back support dug into me after a while and it could have gone back another notch, but you adjust after a while - slouching helps a bit)
Loved those lower Qld fuel prices, but only got to fill up once (in Toowoomba). That car only needs filling up about every 1000-1100 km - no complaints about that.
Bob
A bit odd though that this last tank was a high speed run and the fuel average was 5.13, better than the last one at 5.25 odd - must have been city driving @ Rockhamptoon and some hills on the trip back
Post by: Phil on September 02, 2008, 09:41:36
Post by: Dazzler on September 02, 2008, 10:05:51
Welcome to the club.. thanks for your input (another W.A. i30...) They are popular over there..
Post by: camerooney on September 02, 2008, 10:22:38
Quote from: "ouri30"
ozsnowman,
Found that when doing 120 it was closer to 113kph - that damn speedo. We use the GPS and the ScanGuage as they give more accurate speeds.
I might have missed reading something, but is the speedo not accurate on the i30?
Post by: ouri30 on September 02, 2008, 10:36:43
You bet your sweet bippy it's not. It's out by around 5-7% (registers over the actual speed.
This is not uncommon with cars these days. Yet the interesting thing is the port that the ScanGuage uses (under the dash) gives accurate speed information. Makes you wonder.
Bob
Post by: EymaTeapot on September 02, 2008, 13:07:21
Like you, I have found that the speed on the speedo is always about 5% higher than that displyed on my GPS.
I was thinking, do you think that maybe the manafacturers do this deliberatley as a kind of disclaimer? If the speedo read less than the speed you were traveling, than maybe this would open the door for people to try and sue the manafacturer over speeding tickets.
Sounds a bit far fetched...granted...but I love a good conspiracy storey.
Post by: ouri30 on September 02, 2008, 13:20:19
I think you are correct. I have read somewhere that the Oz standards state that a speedo can be up to 10% out but are not to register under the actual speed, hence manufacturers are forced to err on the safe side.
My brother-in-law has a Yaris and he queried his speedowith the dealer. They plugged in a speed sensor (under the dash) and took it for a drive and came back saying the speedo was within the allowable limits.
Bob
Post by: camerooney on September 02, 2008, 13:29:54
First I had heard of it to be honest with you.
Post by: Thumper on September 07, 2008, 12:17:51
*Picks self up off the ground*
Ok, didn't know my tank was that big. (And yes, no matter what servo I go to, it's always around 56lt-60lt to fill)
(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8390/070920081gg5.jpg)
1360km traveled
60.44lt
4.44lt/100 km
(Trip computer shows 4.7lt/100km)
I guess the motor is freeing up a bit more (17,000km on it now)
Post by: EymaTeapot on September 07, 2008, 12:25:19
Mate....You must have been running on empty!!
Post by: Shambles on September 07, 2008, 12:39:10
Quote from: "EymaTeapot"
Thumper,I'd ask to see the calibration report on that bowser, I would.
Mate....You must have been running on empty!!
Post by: eye30 on September 07, 2008, 12:49:28
Post by: Thumper on September 07, 2008, 14:48:29
Roughly 140km with the light on. (About 60km with the - - - flashing)
It's all good. :?
Post by: Lakes on September 07, 2008, 21:04:02
Post by: dani on September 21, 2008, 10:36:27
1086km with 52 liters (full tank to top + 110km Bord Computer to end reservoir)
Post by: kinesiologykid on September 21, 2008, 13:30:33
Quote from: "Thumper"
Well I was 20 km outside Tarago (East side) when the fuel light came on. Drove to Goulburn, then down to Yass, before filling up. (Caltex on the main highway)
Roughly 140km with the light on. (About 60km with the - - - flashing)
It's all good. :?
Hi Thumper,
Looks like they have more in reserve than we think, probably to stop people running out!
I am not going to bank on mine doing 140km with the light on!
Haven't filled up yet, its done 850 kms and is on 1/4 full still.
Post by: Lakes on September 21, 2008, 20:47:17
Post by: EymaTeapot on September 22, 2008, 11:30:15
Post by: Thumper on September 22, 2008, 12:58:38
Temp when I left, 29 degrees c.
Temp when I drove back, 16 degrees c.
4.0lt/100km all the way up (Sitting on 110km/h)
4.3lt/100km all the way back (Sitting on 110km/h)
650km round trip.
Fuel gauge sitting on 3/4 tank.
Bring on Summer!
Post by: EymaTeapot on September 22, 2008, 13:07:35
Excellent fuel economy, particularley as you were sitting on the speed limit.
How much difference do you think it makes travelling light/heavy? When i go away its usually with the whole family and luggage and i struggle to get much better than about 5.0L/p100.
Post by: pedro on September 23, 2008, 09:04:01
Got a question if any one can help, the --- flashing? sometimes mine flashes the lines and other times they stay solid and the little pic of a fuel pump flashes instead. Cant seem to find a reason why they seem to randomly pic one or the other to flash?
Post by: EymaTeapot on September 23, 2008, 11:44:00
I cant say I have noticed the pic of the fuel pump flash, but certainly noticed the --- flash many times. As for only getting 44-48 litres in the tank at a time, i would say that maybe there is more left in your tank than you think. Maybe this is why your not getting more than 900klm to a tank, although as you live in the hills as you say, this is still excellent economy.
Have you tried gradually topping the tank up, stop...start...it takes patients, untill you can see the fuel and it will take no more. Many on this site use this method, myself included and get upto 50-58L in the tank at a time, which in turn means getting furter to a tank
Post by: kinesiologykid on September 23, 2008, 11:58:46
light came on at 985 kms, filled at 1007 kms. It was way above empty when light came one.
Took 44 litres to first click (if this is where the dealership filled to then its 4.37 l/100 km).
Slowly kept going another few minutes, managed to get 48 litres in. In the unlikely event that the dealer filled it that full, its 4.77 l/100 kms.
I was told to go at all different speeds to run it in, so did more city driving than normal, also did some in fourth gear at over 100 kms hour. Some deliberately, and a few times it was so quiet I forgot to change! I will usually get better than this, especially once its run in.
I think over 1400 kms is possible once its run in, if my tank is as big as the one that gets over 60 lites in!
Post by: EymaTeapot on September 23, 2008, 12:05:44
Post by: Thumper on September 23, 2008, 12:47:17
Quote from: "pedro"
Got a question if any one can help, the --- flashing? sometimes mine flashes the lines and other times they stay solid and the little pic of a fuel pump flashes instead. Cant seem to find a reason why they seem to randomly pic one or the other to flash?
Gawd, I thought I was going nuts when, before I noticed the --- flashing, yet the other day, the --- was solid and the fuel pump was flashing when you get below the 50km left stage.
*Scratches head*
Might pay to ask Hyundai. (Though, before the 15,000km service, the --- flashed. After the 15,000km service the fuel pump now flashes.)
Might be a ECU update thing?
Post by: Lakes on September 23, 2008, 20:36:59
Quote from: "kinesiologykid"
First tank,
light came on at 985 kms, filled at 1007 kms. It was way above empty when light came one.
Took 44 litres to first click (if this is where the dealership filled to then its 4.37 l/100 km).
Slowly kept going another few minutes, managed to get 48 litres in. In the unlikely event that the dealer filled it that full, its 4.77 l/100 kms.
I was told to go at all different speeds to run it in, so did more city driving than normal, also did some in fourth gear at over 100 kms hour. Some deliberately, and a few times it was so quiet I forgot to change! I will usually get better than this, especially once its run in.
I think over 1400 kms is possible once its run in, if my tank is as big as the one that gets over 60 lites in!
The difference between your fill up and the fill up's that go past the owners book tank size of 53Lt's is. we fill till we see clear fuel not foam. like watch down the filler kneck the foam will go down, you keep doing that till you see liquid not bubbles. it's a bit like pulling a beer
. the Caltex Vortex Premium Diesel is much easier as does not foam as much.with the warning light that fuel is low, i have never waited long enough for warning to flash, but on most other cars i have owned, the warning comes on then if you keep going long enough the warning light starts to flash, nothing new or special just the norm.
Post by: Thumper on September 23, 2008, 23:11:55
It's on the trip gauge, in the middle of your speedo. Select distance to empty, the display will count down how many km's you can go before you run out.
Normally, when the yellow/orange low fuel light comes on, it will show on mine roughly 120-150km left to go.
When it gets down to 50km left, the numeric will disappear and be replaced with ---
Before, the --- would continue to flash on the display.
Now, the picture of the fuel pump above the --- will flash, and the --- will remain static.
This is what's different.
Post by: Lakes on September 24, 2008, 07:51:05
i don't have that feature on my i30 as it's SX, but my Ute has a trip PC, and i think it's after there is less than 80k distance to emty, no matter what part of the trip PC you are useing every 10k less distance to emty it goes lower, well the trip PC shows the new lower distance till it's emty and it flashs the distance then goes back to what part of the trip PC you were useing b4.
but i got caught out once :lol: was 10.30pm on a sunday on the M2 not one servo on that motorway, just lucky i had my push bike in the back, had to ride about 20k.
Post by: ouri30 on September 24, 2008, 09:17:46
I had a 30 000k service a few weeks ago. Since having the service I have not let the fuel go low enough to experience the flashing _ _ _ or the low fuel warning light. Will keep an eye on it and let you and others know if I experience the flashing fuel warning light instead of the flashing _ _ _ .
Bob
Post by: yggy on October 05, 2008, 14:24:19
Post by: Thumper on October 08, 2008, 21:17:04
1,100km travelled.
46.48lt put in, to the neck.
4.22lt/100km actual economy.
4.4lt/100km indicated on trip computer.
Cost of fuel $77.58
Cost per 100km $7.05
This is real world conditions, driving at proper highway speeds, driving up and down hills, with three people and luggage.
4lt/100km is world record material? :lol: 8-)
Picture from the phone of me stuck in snow (The road had black ice on it, had to drive on the snow on the side of the road to get traction up the slight hill)
(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/8067/061020080021ns2.jpg)
OOPPS. Posted in wrong section.
Post by: Hemmi on October 08, 2008, 21:25:16
Post by: Shambles on October 08, 2008, 21:28:29
Quote from: "Thumper"
Latest fill (After traveling down the coast, driving down then up the Brown Mountain. Driving at the posted speed limit 100km/h AND overtaking trucks, plus being stuck in a snow storm with -1 degree temps)
1,100km travelled.
46.48lt put in, to the neck.
4.22lt/100km actual economy.
4.4lt/100km indicated on trip computer.
Cost of fuel $77.58
Cost per 100km $7.05
This is real world conditions, driving at proper highway speeds, driving up and down hills, with three people and luggage.
4lt/100km is world record material? :lol: 8-)
Picture from the phone of me stuck in snow (The road had black ice on it, had to drive on the snow on the side of the road to get traction up the slight hill)
(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/8067/061020080021ns2.jpg)
I had to quote the whole text as that is an awesome post. Nice one Thumperino
Post by: kinesiologykid on November 12, 2008, 05:08:20
4.93 l/100kms.
I do mostly freeway and country driving, but have been up a mountain and on some very winding, hilly country roads.
Post by: camerooney on November 13, 2008, 04:49:36
I'm getting around the 5.8l to 6.1l range.
I've just clocked up a 1000kms but I mainly do a lot of stop/start driving during the week. The car doesnt get a good run until the weekend. It only takes me 5mins to get into town and park for work...lol
Post by: CRM114 on November 13, 2008, 10:20:18
6.9 l/100 averaged over the last 6000kms :evil:
Grrr
Post by: kinesiologykid on November 13, 2008, 10:31:02
Quote from: "CRM114"
Well I rekon I'm in the running for WORST economy:
6.9 l/100 averaged over the last 6000kms :evil:
Grrr
Is yours a manual or automatic?
Post by: CRM114 on November 13, 2008, 10:49:36
the Cit returns less than 6l/100 in the same environment. So something's up.
Every-one seems to get less than 6l/100, closer to 5l.
Post by: Thumper on November 13, 2008, 13:14:39
Plus running on a long, steady trip helps.
Cold weather kills economy. (Tried and proven fact with the i30) Though Hyundai Australia say the complete opposite! :P
Post by: eye30 on November 13, 2008, 17:31:35
Post by: camerooney on November 14, 2008, 00:55:46
Quote from: "CRM114"
Well I rekon I'm in the running for WORST economy:
6.9 l/100 averaged over the last 6000kms :P
Which makes me think something may not be quite right (I've only got 1000km's up on mine too!)
Cam
Post by: teamgeorge on November 14, 2008, 01:34:40
Quote from: "Thumper"
Just filled up, 60.44lt :lol: :lol:
*Picks self up off the ground*
Ok, didn't know my tank was that big. (And yes, no matter what servo I go to, it's always around 56lt-60lt to fill)
(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8390/070920081gg5.jpg)
1360km traveled
60.44lt
4.44lt/100 km
(Trip computer shows 4.7lt/100km)
I guess the motor is freeing up a bit more (17,000km on it now)
show us a picture of the ground...
Post by: Tylenol on November 14, 2008, 01:46:04
Prices around here only just got to $1.10 this week for e10 Petrol... and that's at the dodgier end of independent town.
Post by: Tylenol on November 14, 2008, 01:49:15
Must be $1.719 per litre... Expensive!!! ;D
Post by: camerooney on November 14, 2008, 02:31:10
Post by: Lakes on November 14, 2008, 05:39:58
that's how the oil company's do it, when it was $1.11 we did not think that was cheap at all
now? cheapest i've seen it here in Syd is about $1.45.9 with E10 @ $1.19.9 ( NO DISCOUNT )
Post by: Thumper on November 14, 2008, 11:17:40
When I reduced the size of the picture for here, it lost some detail, and clarity.
Post by: CRM114 on November 16, 2008, 10:41:56
Yes I have followed intently all the fuel economy discussions with growing interest.
I have used the recommended driving style - short change and using the torque - usually less than 2500 rpm in all gears, more like 2k.
I do do short trips (less than 10kms work commute) so its probably not getting to temp until I arrive
What bugs me is that the Cit, with a similar engine, is doing better (though not fantastic either - 6l/100) My wife and I use either cars indiscriminantly, and her driving requirements are similar also.
Perhaps the petrol would have been the wiser choice here...
Post by: Lakes on November 17, 2008, 07:19:37
Quote from: "CRM114"
Thank you Thumper and Cameroony for taking an interest.
Yes I have followed intently all the fuel economy discussions with growing interest.
I have used the recommended driving style - short change and using the torque - usually less than 2500 rpm in all gears, more like 2k.
I do do short trips (less than 10kms work commute) so its probably not getting to temp until I arrive
What bugs me is that the Cit, with a similar engine, is doing better (though not fantastic either - 6l/100) My wife and I use either cars indiscriminantly, and her driving requirements are similar also.
Perhaps the petrol would have been the wiser choice here...
Is the Cit new too with same amout of k's?
i saw new Cit's advertised 1.6 turbo diesel man, C4 drive away @ $25,900 wow thought they would cost a lot more?
are they nicer to drive too? i like the look of the Cit.
Post by: CRM114 on November 17, 2008, 10:47:12
I was asked the same question in reverse on the French car BB.
This is what I said:
First I would suggest comparing apples with apples. I wasn't comparing the i30 with the C4 at the time I bought the i30.
My i30 is the 'povo' pack, ie base model diesel, whilst the C4 is the reasonably up-specked 'special' they had last year - EGS, ABS, ESP, alloys, cruise, trip computer, speed limiter, and portable gps thrown in. I added the glass roof as well.
In comparison the Hyundai SX has NONE of these things (well ..ABS) - but it was $10,000 cheaper.
However I understand the SLX in the near future will get the cruise control on the diesel (like the petrol). In that guise it also has the climate control and the trip computer, and ESP, and more air bags and etc. But then it costs nearly as much as the C4 with the same spec, yet is only 4 stars encap (apparently just misses out on the 5 stars).
Anyway, I did a lot of research at the time I was looking at the Hyundai, (actually I was looking for a cheap second car, that had to be diesel) so I'll let you know what I found out.
The Hyundai is oustanding value for an entry level diesel, bar none. (The C3 did not come close - too small- and the Polo is a prententious pretender - only the Fiat was a close run thing, mainly on looks).
The 1.6 CRDI is revelation after driving the 1.6 Hdi
Now it's not marked in terms of differences, but the Hyundai is smoother into boost, revs slightly more easily (more like a petrol) and is slighltly torquier (if that's a word). Overall it feels a bit like 'rocket' compared to the PSA donk.
Whilst the SX is very well finished (interior is very Golf-like) and the doors shut with a Germanic 'thud', it is noisier (road noise, especially wet roads) and a bit more 'choppy' in the ride.
I can't comment on differences with a manual C4, as mine is EGS. That alone makes any real comparison very diffficult, as the C4 is then in a league of its own in terms of driving style and experience.
My C4 is a much more up-market spec and that also makes the comparaison tricky, with a bevy of 'creature comforts' that also change the driving experience - automatic headlights, wipers, speed limiter, follow me headlights, etc. that just puts you in a different mood when driving the Cit.
The main difference though, is that the C4 is a great looking car, very distinctive and elegant styling, quite a 'smart' looking vehicle, some might say.
Whist the i30 is not ugly...
So, now, at $26K the Cit, even manual without the glass roof, is outstanding value. But I've never driven a manual C4.
Post by: ozsnowman on November 17, 2008, 11:33:50
Post by: Thumper on November 18, 2008, 09:58:10
If that's the worst I can get, then I'm going to be more than surprised when I do an economy run with what's been done.
Have to beat 1400km per tank. *Glares at ouri30, chuckling*
Post by: Lakes on November 18, 2008, 19:10:00
for the time being the i30 is working fine for my needs, and is cheap to own and run, seems reliable too. so i'll stick with it but the Cit is nicer to look at! and i'm sure would have an unmatched ride quality if it is like other cit's.
Post by: ozsnowman on November 19, 2008, 11:47:05
Quote from: "Lakes"
is the EGS trans something like what VW use? like the VW auto is not a true auto and can achive almost man fuel economy and they use clutchs and not Torque converter, think they call it DSG.
The EGS is a robotic manual - the clutch is handled by the computer on-board. Not as quick or as smooth as a VW, and strangely enough was smoother in manual than left in auto
Post by: Lakes on November 19, 2008, 18:33:17
Quote from: "ozsnowman"
Quote from: "Lakes"is the EGS trans something like what VW use? like the VW auto is not a true auto and can achive almost man fuel economy and they use clutchs and not Torque converter, think they call it DSG.
The EGS is a robotic manual - the clutch is handled by the computer on-board. Not as quick or as smooth as a VW, and strangely enough was smoother in manual than left in auto
Thanks Ozsnowman, i had to drive an Auto Diesel MB Sprinter Van from a repair shop for a friend, that was a strange auto too, i did not like the way it shifted with a thud, would also roll back on a hill if you did not use brake.
Post by: Thumper on November 20, 2008, 11:02:15
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2639/20112008001mx7.jpg)
Constant for the last 600km. (That's 4.0lt/100km) And driving at the posted speed limit.
This is after fitting some electronics to the vehicle. (By the way, you'll be amazed at what can be done to the power outputs of these little diesels. Traction issues in the first three gears. *Grins*)
Tomorrow, the entire exhaust is going to be changed (Including a custom made dump pipe directly from the turbo)
I'm chasing the ultimate economy! :D
Post by: ouri30 on November 20, 2008, 11:16:00
Bob
Post by: Rubix on November 20, 2008, 12:00:06
I'm with you Thumper. Same fuel consumption, not additions to the vehicle re electronics, exaust or anything else. Stock standard. I've done over 600km and have 4.0 l /100km at the moment. I'm well on target to achieve 1400km on a tank early next week.
Bob
Did you know that at 1400km/tank you could travel the complete width of Australia at it's widest points in less than 3 tanks? That's freakishly insane.
Post by: Thumper on November 20, 2008, 12:49:38
Also running at the posted speed limits (Up to 110km/h on the open roads)
Keeping up with normal traffic, plenty of red lights and stop signs. Just normal everyday driving.
I will be doing an economy run soon, to see how much further I can reduce the consumption.
Post by: ouri30 on November 21, 2008, 07:00:58
That's including Sydney peak out city traffic (Not just highway cruising) :)
Also running at the posted speed limits (Up to 110km/h on the open roads)
Keeping up with normal traffic, plenty of red lights and stop signs. Just normal everyday driving.
I will be doing an economy run soon, to see how much further I can reduce the consumption.
Thumper,
Out where I live, I am the normal traffic, so I guess I am keeping up with it. :laugh:
Currently I have travelled 801km and the guage is about 5/8. The trip computer says I have 553km to empty, so Iam hopeful of making the 1400km
Bob
Post by: EymaTeapot on November 24, 2008, 00:00:13
Hans should watch out, he has some competition with you Two :lol:
Maybe it should be you guys over in New Zealand competing in that fuel efficiency rally :lol:
Post by: Thumper on November 24, 2008, 00:03:11
Post by: davet on November 24, 2008, 03:22:49
Constant for the last 600km. (That's 4.0lt/100km) And driving at the posted speed limit.
This is after fitting some electronics to the vehicle.
Sorry if you've already said this somewhere but what electronics (same tuningbox as shambles??), and how much difference in economy (compared to the free flowing exhaust)?
Post by: Thumper on November 24, 2008, 04:55:14
Constant for the last 600km. (That's 4.0lt/100km) And driving at the posted speed limit.
This is after fitting some electronics to the vehicle.
Sorry if you've already said this somewhere but what electronics (same tuningbox as shambles??), and how much difference in economy (compared to the free flowing exhaust)?
I have fitted a Autotechnik Programmable MICI CR Tuningbox to my i30 CRDi. (It has the economy maps installed) http://autotechnik-saretz.de/ (http://autotechnik-saretz.de/)
Costs just a little bit more than the one Shambles has fitted, but allows you to specify allot more parameters (Like more torque, lower down the RPM range)
I have just finished testing with the straight through exhaust (No mufflers) now will do a full tank with the stock exhaust system.
Yes, it does make a difference to your economy. :twisted:
Post by: Thumper on November 29, 2008, 11:37:40
Now sitting on 3.7lt/100km due to the very heavy peak hour traffic. :mad:
So, drive from Canberra to outside Yass, then up to Sydney, back down to outside Yass, only used just under 1/4 of a tank. 8)
Post by: Rubix on November 29, 2008, 12:20:19
Post by: davet on November 29, 2008, 13:20:03
700km, average was 3.5lt/100km, but got caught in peak hour traffic in Sydney yesterday afternoon.
What speed did you sit on on the Hume?
Post by: Rubix on November 29, 2008, 13:30:45
What speed did you sit on on the Hume?... said the undercover police officer. Haha.
Post by: Thumper on November 29, 2008, 22:25:06
Just took a photo then (Whilst drinking my morning coffee)
Ok, on 1/4 of a tank. (After settling down last night)
Still not bad all things considering. :razz:
As for the speed, I sat on 90km/h, all the way in the pouring rain all the way from Yass to Sydney, it did not stop! It was raining that hard even I had traction issues (IE: Aqua planing in some sections) at 90km/h, yet 50% of the vehicles overtook me (Mostly P platers and one L plater) were going allot faster than 110km/h.
I stop counting the amount of vehicles that had crashed. (This was BEFORE I had arrived in Sydney)
19 vehicles left the road and where in the ditches either in the middle, or to the side. (10 were Commodores, with 6 of them on their roof) 6 Falcons (1 on it's roof, two on their side) 2 Toyota 4x4's (What was left of them, looked like Land Cruisers) Both on their sides. 1 semi who had jack knifed.
I was more than gob smacked at the sheer stupidity of those drivers.
Though, I will say, I had a nice line of vehicles behind me for the entire trip, they just kept with me, 2 Prius's and what I could see, another i30.
Highlight of the trip, had a Prius pull up beside me whilst stuck in the M5 tunnel (Long one) wound down their window and asked "New diesel i30, looks really nice! What economy you getting?" "Sitting on 3.7lt/100 right now because of this carpark!" "Bull shit! No way those Korean crap cars can do better then MY Prius!" With that he wound his window back up.
I guess we now have to endure economy rage! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: ouri30 on November 30, 2008, 01:33:37
Bob
Post by: Rubix on November 30, 2008, 01:39:19
Post by: davet on November 30, 2008, 11:04:53
Post by: Thumper on November 30, 2008, 12:06:10
At the moment the stock exhaust is fitted. Just trying the economy maps for an entire tank, then will try the stock fuel maps with stock exhaust for a full tank.
After all of that, will try the free flowing exhaust with stock maps, then free flowing exhaust with economy maps.
Then, just to see if it makes any difference, the rally exhaust with full power maps installed. (Curious to see what difference, if any, they will make to the economy)
This is real world driving, in peak hour, in major cities. (Canberra and Sydney) Also driving in hilly areas.
Every time I have checked, I have found the cars own trip computer to be over reading 0.2lt/100km from actual economy. (When filled back up to the brim)
So, going on past history, I'm actually sitting on 3.5lt/100km when the trip computer shows 3.7lt/1ookm.
And no, I'm not driving like a granny, nor 'hyper-mileing' to get the best economy. :cool:
Post by: davet on November 30, 2008, 21:34:54
Every time I have checked, I have found the cars own trip computer to be over reading 0.2lt/100km from actual economy. (When filled back up to the brim)
I'm seeing the exact opposite (trip computer is more optimistic than reality by about .2 l/100km)
Post by: camerooney on November 30, 2008, 23:04:43
On the way down I went through Kangaroo Valley + Cambewarra Mountain and onto the Hume. Then down the Federal Highway and went round in circles for a while trying to find my bearings in Canberra. (even the GPS was getting confused)
:lol:
On the way back we went on the Kings Highway, down + up Clyde Mountain and via Batemans Bay and onto the Princes Highway.
Atleast half of that (and probably more) was mountain and very hilly/windy roads and city driving in traffic. I averaged 5.8L /100km.
I have 606km's on the trip with a range of 212km's to go.
All in all very happy with how the car went. Considering for most of the trip there were 3 people with luggage and air on.
:)
The longest trip the i30 has had yet and I can already feel that it has loosened up a little.
Post by: Thumper on December 02, 2008, 10:02:14
Need I say more? :biggrin:
Post by: EymaTeapot on December 02, 2008, 10:35:26
That said, I tend to get a lot more from the first half of the tank because I over fill it. Still, I for one would be backing you in. :biggrin:
Post by: Thumper on December 02, 2008, 10:39:11
That's why I let you go at the bridge, otherwise I would have held you up going back up the hills into Canberra.
Funny thing, the wife asked, when you overtook "Is that a diesel as well?" "Yes, all of the i30's at the BBQ were diesels, why?" "Oh, cause it doesn't sound anything like a diesel. I mean, there is no note from the back, where ours has a note."
I just chuckled. Wife now listens out for exhaust notes! :lol:
Post by: camerooney on December 02, 2008, 11:11:10
Hope so! :razz:
That's why I let you go at the bridge, otherwise I would have held you up going back up the hills into Canberra.
Funny thing, the wife asked, when you overtook "Is that a diesel as well?" "Yes, all of the i30's at the BBQ were diesels, why?" "Oh, cause it doesn't sound anything like a diesel. I mean, there is no note from the back, where ours has a note."
I just chuckled. Wife now listens out for exhaust notes! :lol:
Hehe...
Cotter Road is a nice drive. I had some fun going back
:lol:
Post by: EymaTeapot on December 02, 2008, 11:16:00
Post by: Lakes on December 02, 2008, 18:27:15
once a few years back a young friend of mine that built race motors and raced 250cc super Karts ( those Go Karts that use 250 GP bike motors & gearbox's & have unreal handling and performance) he was living in GB Working for 4 years, came back at Christmas was talking about a four cylinder turbo company car he had over GB and he had to drive to Germany a lot, he had a picture of the speedo reading 150mph ( about 240KPH) I said for all i knew he could have had the car up on a hoist and in top gear with motor runing and just put his foot on throtle and took a pic of the speedo. that is possible too.
i'm only stating this so people that don't understand what is possible, get a different view.
Post by: Rubix on December 02, 2008, 20:08:24
Post by: Thumper on December 02, 2008, 20:12:38
I have nothing to gain by doing this, yet everything to loose.
Why would I wreck my reputation on here by doing that? :eek:
I'm more than happy to go on the next official economy run that is held in Australia, with the tank sealed off, and noted.
Heck, every vehicle I have owned, I've bettered the economy figures by at least 2-4 lt/100km (The V6 auto Camry I have is currently sitting on 9.2lt/100km. The Trajet's I owned both could attain 900km per tank. (Both auto V6 vans)
Though squeezing an extra 1lt/100km out of the i30 seems like no big deal, that is until you realise it's close to 22% gain in economy! :razz: :razz:
Post by: GURKHA17 on December 02, 2008, 23:27:07
Post by: EymaTeapot on December 02, 2008, 23:40:16
So if you still have 26.5 litres in the tank, you should be good to go another 691klm. I think the 1500klm mark is in real danger
Post by: Lakes on December 03, 2008, 06:47:06
cheers
Post by: warshell98 on December 06, 2008, 22:03:12
Not really the start we were looking for.
Cheers all
Post by: Rubix on December 06, 2008, 22:17:02
Secondly, about the smell of fuel throughout your cabin - try vacuuming all the carpets, putting an air freshener in the car for a couple of days, and then remove it and see if the smell comes back. It could be that some bozo dropped fuel on the fabric inside the car, and that sort of smell hangs around for days, but it shouldn't come back after vacuuming/air-freshing. It could also be a leak underneath the cabin of your car, so the smell is drifting up into the cabin, and that could mean higher fuel consumption figures too. This is something the dealership will have to look into.
Post by: Thumper on December 06, 2008, 22:49:37
Post by: warshell98 on December 07, 2008, 01:14:55
Post by: Rubix on December 07, 2008, 02:16:54
Post by: camerooney on December 07, 2008, 02:22:33
I've got 250km's on the trip, averaging 5.8L/100km
The fuel needle has just come off the full mark (only slightly)
So I'm pretty happy.
I took a lot longer to fill it this time, I cant remember how many clicks I had...lol
But I'm getting used to it frothing up now
:)
Post by: warshell98 on December 07, 2008, 07:20:58
in the car for a day then off to work for 2 weeks. :mad: There has though, for that much fuel and smell got to be a leak somewere or a combination of
the two ( leak and ECU ),
will have a clearer picture on the weekend.
Cheers
Warwick
Post by: Dazzler on December 07, 2008, 09:12:29
Post by: Thumper on December 09, 2008, 20:48:14
Currently sitting on 5.1lt/100km.
This is not driving slowly, mind you and I have the air-con on!
(Though gawd what a pig to drive without the Tuningbox!) :lol:
Post by: Shambles on December 09, 2008, 21:05:36
Post by: Thumper on December 09, 2008, 21:08:52
Though the 'other half' found out what the Torque booster actually does! (In 1st and 2nd gear. I'll be needing new front tyres soon!) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: Thumper on December 12, 2008, 21:53:37
Still sitting on 5.1lt/100km (With generous use of the accelerator most of the time)
I dunno how most of you use more fuel! :razz:
Yes, bog stock.......
Lights are very useful driving late at night. :cool:
Post by: Thumper on December 14, 2008, 12:53:25
5.1lt per 100km for the trip down, stock standard. Sitting on 110km an hour in the 110 zones.
On the way back, filed up before I left Melbourne ($1.309 thank you!) :razz:
Fitted the Tuningbox with the proper economy settings this time.
Currently sitting on 3.4lt per 100km with under quarter of a tank used. (Max speed was 100km an hour in 110km zones. Rest of the time, at the speed limits)
So from Melbourne to Canberra using less than quarter of a tank of fuel.
The TuningBox makes a substantial difference to a stock vehicle in regards to economy.
Knocking off 10km an hour would not equate to 1.7lt per 100km!
Post by: warshell98 on December 19, 2008, 08:13:53
Cheers
Post by: ouri30 on December 19, 2008, 09:13:08
Good one thumper, spoke to the dealer on the weekend, they think I should allow more of a run in period. Have done around 1500k's now and just made it down to 6.1lt. It is slowly coming down, will see how we go over the 1500 or so? :'(
Cheers
Warshell98,
I'm just interested in some information about your fuel economy. I saw your post on another thread. Have you reset the fuel economysince picking up your i30. If you haven't, I can understand why you have only seen it drop slowly over the first 1500km. Without a reset, the fuel economy is calculated on all fuel used divided by the number of 100km (in your case 15) that you have travelled. AS you travel further, the variation in fuel economy slows down.
However, if you reset the fuel economy (say after a refill), then you will see the fuel consumption you are getting independant of the previous fuel used. This will give you a better indication of what you are getting at the moment.
Bob
Post by: whitbomb07 on December 20, 2008, 00:25:41
Currently the best I've gotten from the tank was 5.6l/100km and that was 2 tanks ago, filled up last night and it said for the tank I'd done 6.1! However both figures were in the 900km range both with low DTE and Low fuel light on.
I reset the meter evry time I fill up.
I'm still trying for that 1000km to a tank, closest so far has been 967km DTE just started flashing and low fuel light on for about 35km.
Maybe I'm just being to generous with the noise pedal?
Regards
Daniel
Post by: Thumper on December 21, 2008, 00:21:50
As for the DTE. once it starts flashing, I can do over 300km. Low fuel light, easily get 150km extra.
This is if you've filled to the brim :exclaim:
Post by: ouri30 on December 21, 2008, 01:25:07
Well I have 30,000km on my engine now, and no matter how hard I push it, will return over 1,000km per tank, every time.
As for the DTE. once it starts flashing, I can do over 300km. Low fuel light, easily get 150km extra.
This is if you've filled to the brim :exclaim:
I have to agree with Thumper. We can easily get 1000km on a tank, regardless of how we drive. If the tank is full to the brim and we drive at speed limits without being agressive, 1200km is always on the money.
However, I can't confirm Thumper's experience with the DTE flashing and getting 300km after that. Firstly, the low fuel warning comes on with about 80-115km DTE (varies depending on how we have driving), then the DTE starts flashing _ _ _ at around 50km to go. I have never pushed it for more than the 50km as the uage is below the empty mark after 50km.
Bob
Post by: GURKHA17 on December 21, 2008, 15:40:13
Unlike Thumper I did only around 25-30 Kms after the DTE started to flash ---, lets see what happens in the next tank. Currently the avg economy sits at 5.3 lt/100km (aircon on at all times)
Cheers :)
Post by: Tylenol on December 22, 2008, 00:00:53
Needless to say I am quite disappointed. I don't think my car will ever make the 5L/100km mark or lower :'(
Post by: GURKHA17 on December 22, 2008, 09:39:50
Sad to say that after 2000km my CRDi manual is still only managing 7.7L/100km. Lowest i've ever seen on the trip computer was 6.0l/100km after a 5 hour high speed drive.
Needless to say I am quite disappointed. I don't think my car will ever make the 5L/100km mark or lower :'(
Don't lose hope yet...:) It was the same for me. I used to avg. 6-6.2 lt/100 but now after 11500 km I am finally topping 1000+ kms @ 5.3-5.5 lt/100. When do you change gears in terms of rpm? do it around 2-2.5 or below 2. You will have to wait until 5000 km or so for the avg. to drop considerably. I only used to manage arond 5.8 lt/100 km until recently i managed my first 1000+/ tank.
What bout tyre pressure? Dunna how much of a difference it makes but think it may help if you increase it.
Cheers:)
Post by: davet on December 22, 2008, 21:52:04
Post by: Tylenol on December 23, 2008, 05:09:01
Don't lose hope yet...:) It was the same for me. I used to avg. 6-6.2 lt/100 but now after 11500 km I am finally topping 1000+ kms @ 5.3-5.5 lt/100. When do you change gears in terms of rpm? do it around 2-2.5 or below 2. You will have to wait until 5000 km or so for the avg. to drop considerably. I only used to manage arond 5.8 lt/100 km until recently i managed my first 1000+/ tank.
What bout tyre pressure? Dunna how much of a difference it makes but think it may help if you increase it.
Cheers:)
Hopefully my car will do the same :)
That is something that I am not sure about actually - tyre pressure.
The tyres are marked with max pressure at 44psi - they are the stock kumho tyres on the SLX.
Inside the drivers door jamb, the information panel says the tyres are rated at 32psi.
Which pressure should the tyres be filled to? I pumped them right up to 44psi a couple of days ago, they were around the 33psi mark from the factory and have been at that pressure until I filled them to 44psi.
I will be doing a lot of kms over the next couple of weeks, hopefully there will be some good economy results to post after that!
Cheers.
Post by: Shambles on December 23, 2008, 08:23:37
Post by: GURKHA17 on December 23, 2008, 10:36:13
I keep mine about 36-38.
Here is a section if a site that talks all about tyre pressure and 44 psi is not meant to the air pressure its the maximum pressure that can taken by your tyres when the car under loaded conditions.
http://www.carbibles.com/tire_bible.html
hope that helps
cheers:)
Post by: Pip on December 23, 2008, 11:35:21
My long held rule-of-thumb has been max pressure = max rated pressure less 10% and, for the front at least (assuming front engine), never less than 35 PSI unless I'm going on really lumpy roads.
For the standard slx tyres this means 40 PSI is the maximum to actually use.
I had mine at 38 PSI and took a trip over the Black Spur (of which Melburnians will know) and was frankly embarrassed with the near terminal understeer and the tailgate from one of those clumsy 4WD tanks that had no trouble keeping up at all through the corners, although I was able to make up some ground easily between corners on the uphill bits (it's nearly all uphill :wink:).
Now I'm not a Fangio (although I did race against Peter Brock once :) another story :D) and the tyres did not let go but there was lots of noise from the front tyres. I've since let the back ones down to 34 PSI but not had an opportunity since to see if it's any better. Rolling around the suburbs is perfect and while I didn't buy it to excite when pushed the so-called Oz tuned suspension was obviously limited by its intrinsic ability or the brief. My old Mitsubishi with same suspension of Ford front struts and rear multi-link did a much better job but I suspect also had a much closer to 50/50 weight distribution to assist!
In any case, I think 36/38 is a reasonable compromise for the front.
Post by: Lakes on December 23, 2008, 19:11:11
Post by: Lakes on December 23, 2008, 19:14:25
Post by: Thumper on January 09, 2009, 05:58:37
27lt for 250km.
Four things have come out of this:
1) Have found the black smoke limit of the CRDi i30 1.6lt engine.
2) Clutch is not up to the task in 3rd, 4th and 5th.
3) The diesel i30 can produce amazing amounts of power and torque!
4) I need new tyres. :lol:
Post by: ozsnowman on January 11, 2009, 20:43:28
Post by: Rubix on January 11, 2009, 22:41:33
Post by: whitbomb07 on January 11, 2009, 22:50:57
7.7l/100km
Then driving down to Panthers got down to 6.2l/100km.
Driving up to ZZR went up to 6.4
By the end of the trip I was down to 6.0l/100km
Coming back up to Newcastle I'm now currently sitting on 5.4l/100km
So she's slowly getting better. I think the best range I've got so far has been around 1030km.
I'd like to do a total highway economy run and see how she goes, but I don't think it will happen until at least March when I go down to Melb.
What I hate is when you crawl out of the petrol station the trip comp jumps up to 30 odd l/100km before dropping off.
Regards
Daniel
Post by: Lakes on January 12, 2009, 07:17:21
will be traveling around the same distance this coming weekend, but will be west crossing the great divide. stock as a rock CRDi 5 speed 24,000k up SLX wheels stock SLX tyres 42psi front 40psi rear
Post by: EymaTeapot on January 12, 2009, 08:08:58
On the return journey to canberra, the number went back to 5Lp100. Drove a bit faster on the home leg. I started out at 5.15am and got home at 8.30, so was pretty stuffed by the time I got home. In total I travelled 785klm on 2/3 of a tank of fuel :D Very happy :D
Post by: EymaTeapot on January 14, 2009, 03:04:09
Now I have done a few things different, so thinking this might have helped.
First thing I did was to Turf my Missus out of the car...really :lol:
We just bought my brothers 98 model Toyota Rav 4. My wife loves it and drives it now, so I now do 90% of the driving in the i30 and i noticed the fuel economy improve right away. She has been a bit of a lead foot and could never get used to the idea of changing gear at 2000rpm instead of 4000rpm.
The other thing I did was to up the air pressure in the Tyres from 33psi to 36psi. I didn't notice any adverse effect on ride or handling, actually handled pretty well around the windy mountains trip up to the zig zag railway. :D
I also added a diesel additive, Diesel power from Chemtech. I measured out about 45 ml as by the manufacturers instructions. (I didn't use the whole bottle Thumper :lol:) This product is meant to clean the injectors as well as increase power and improve fuel economy. Big claims, Don't know if really works.
Anyway, I have now done 850klms with still 1/4 tank left. DTE reads 202klm and ave fuel fig is 5.1Lp100. These kilometre are made up mostly from our Trip up to Penrith than up the steep windy road to the zig zag railway in the blue mountains. As has been well documented on this site, we were really pushing those little cars along so I am really pleased with the economy achieved. The econ figure has raised a bit since returning to Canberra and the traffic that goes with it, but never the less, i am confident of passing my previous best of 1070 to a tank and am hopeful of passing 1100 klms. It will be touch and go, depends how much the wife drives it really :lol:
Post by: Thumper on January 14, 2009, 06:24:01
(I didn't use the whole bottle Thumper :lol:)
Half a bottle, thank you very much! :twisted:
Worked in my older turbo diesel, yet the CRDi i30 does not like a more concentrated fuel cleaner mix! :neutral:
Post by: EymaTeapot on January 18, 2009, 04:24:46
Post by: whitbomb07 on January 18, 2009, 06:37:14
This tank was also the one used for the meet! See above for what the figures were a week ago! (they were quite appalling)
For most of the tank I'd been trying to shift no higher than 2500, but there were times were I was having some fun and stretching it to 3000. This definitely wasn't a highway cycle only tank, a good combo of city/hard/harsh and highway
On this tank I also used alot less air con and tried using more outside air to keep me cool, I think this contributed quite a bit, as I normally always have the air con on.
Currently my odo is at 9500km.
I'm quite happy with these figures. I was at my folks place yesterday. Filled up in Penrith went back up the mountains the came back up to newie. Finished the trip with 4,7l/100km displaying. Unfortunately I had a bit of 'city' driving today and its now at 4.9.
Here's to getting 1200km!!!
Regards
Daniel
Post by: EymaTeapot on January 18, 2009, 07:36:50
We are still a bit short of the 1300-1400 that Thumper and lakes are nudging, but we're getting closer :D
Post by: LuciferDarklord on January 28, 2009, 02:28:18
Post by: Rubix on January 28, 2009, 04:43:04
9+ hours of driving and not a single sore muscle or ache.
Wow. I didn't even realise that, but same here - driving from the southern tip of Melbourne to Sydney (900km, 10 1/2 hours drive, not including stops) and ditto, I think I get more uncomfortable sitting at work in an office chair. Attributable to the smoothness of the ride I suppose...
Went well overtaking trucks / caravans / boats on trailers etc. Aircon did run out of puff on the way up when it was 44 outside and the sun was shining straight on the dash around the 26th Parallel, aircon couldnt keep up even on recirc.Didn't have a problem through the 40*C run through south NSW on Friday, I actually had to keep turning the air con off as it was too cold at times!
Post by: Rubix on January 28, 2009, 05:12:11
I kept this up for about 30kms then got bored and rocketed off to the 100km/h speed limit, with my trip showing an average of 8.9 at the end of the 900km trip (max speeds of 130km are a lot less economical than the 80-ish km/h required to keep the revs around 2,000).
Post by: LuciferDarklord on January 28, 2009, 05:30:12
Wow. I didn't even realise that, but same here - driving from the southern tip of Melbourne to Sydney (900km, 10 1/2 hours drive, not including stops) and ditto, I think I get more uncomfortable sitting at work in an office chair. Attributable to the smoothness of the ride I suppose...
Yeah it was great - personally I think its more to do with the seat and ergonomics, but whatever it was - it works!
Post by: camerooney on February 03, 2009, 08:32:03
Not driving sparingly either
:D
Its amazing how much diesel engines free up once they have some km's on them.
Post by: mlms on February 03, 2009, 19:01:07
Post by: Lakes on February 05, 2009, 06:48:49
I averaged 5.2L per 100km in the Golf on a trip to Wollongong on Sunday.
Not driving sparingly either
:D
Its amazing how much diesel engines free up once they have some km's on them.
Hi Cam, is the Golf DSG or manuel?
Post by: camerooney on February 05, 2009, 07:37:09
I've got the manual.
8)
Post by: Lakes on February 05, 2009, 09:29:54
also have you been to Freds page?
cheers
Post by: ozsnowman on February 05, 2009, 12:29:04
Post by: accim on March 05, 2009, 09:20:27
Worst: 6,1 lit / 100 km (1 tank)
Current: 5,9 lit/100 km. I drive mostly highways at approx 140-160 kmh.. But I just love the fuel consumption when i drive on the roads, where the average speed is around 80-90 kmh 8)
Post by: ouri30 on March 05, 2009, 10:09:53
Best has been 4.1 lph when I got 1402km from a tank. Manual calculations indicated 4.13 lph.
The worst I have gotten from a tank was 5.4 lph driving it aggressively for a good deal of the time but without breaking speed limits.
Bob
Post by: Zombie on March 05, 2009, 18:47:28
(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9809/kuva001.jpg)
Probably I could get additional ~250-300 km from this tank under favorable conditions.
Post by: Lakes on March 05, 2009, 19:13:07
Post by: Zombie on March 06, 2009, 17:48:53
I would say 250k easy, but can't judge off a fuel gauge, have you got a trip PC?
I don't have a separate trip computer, but I'm drooling after Scangauge II :)
Post by: EpOcH on March 08, 2009, 11:20:01
The engine is just past the 1550km mark at the moment so its quite tight still and the car is used mainly around the city and would be lucky to see a 70km/h road, some days of droping my daughter off at childcare we drive through the city to the other side, then back through the city to get to work, then the same on the way home from work into the city and back through it again, seeing an average speed vary of around the 28-30km/h mark on the trip computer some 400km's into this tank.
Post by: Dazzler on March 08, 2009, 11:53:59
I'm hovering around 6.2-6.4L/100km's at the moment, havnt really attempted a full tank till the end, i just fill it back up if i see cheap diesel going at a large (shell/bp) servo :) (and i love boost !)
The engine is just past the 1550km mark at the moment so its quite tight still and the car is used mainly around the city and would be lucky to see a 70km/h road, some days of droping my daughter off at childcare we drive through the city to the other side, then back through the city to get to work, then the same on the way home from work into the city and back through it again, seeing an average speed vary of around the 28-30km/h mark on the trip computer some 400km's into this tank.
We are lucky down here! Apart from my approx 7km trip to work and 7km trip home 4 days a week and my couple of trips to my block each day (which is also about 14km return)... with reasonable traffic flow 40kph or faster...Most of my other trips are on highways and are 30kms or more at 90kph or higher.
But on the downside because of lots of hills in Tassie seldom average better than 5.4 for long :'(
Post by: Zombie on March 08, 2009, 15:28:47
This is the best I can do under winter conditions with moderate amount of city driving.
(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9809/kuva001.jpg)
Probably I could get additional ~250-300 km from this tank under favorable conditions.
I filled the tank after 1123 km because I found cheap diesel (it turned out to be the cheapest in the whole country, 0.859 €/l). The DTE had just went to ---. I could have done some 50-70 km more. The car showed 5.0 l/100 km, calculated consumption was 5.076 l/100 km.
I'm very satisfied, in the summer I'm going to improve those numbers. Winter (arctic) conditions increase consumption a lot (cold starts, PTC-heater usage, long after-glowing times etc.), also the winter-quality diesel adds about 2 % (it is lighter) and probably the winter tires increase the consumption too.
Post by: lindlake on April 13, 2009, 12:35:57
Post by: ouri30 on April 13, 2009, 13:18:34
just got back from sydney 14lt for 100km towing a hire tralier 8x5 fully loaded doing about 110 km only 400 km to the tank :lol:
Hey Lakes,
Mystery solved - perhaps?
Bob
Post by: Lakes on April 14, 2009, 19:37:43
i tow a 8x5 with my v8 ute get better economy than that doing those speeds, can tow 2300kg.
did you have trailer tyres blown up max pressure? but 110kph would be useing every horse the i30 has, if it was you i saw you were heading towards some good size mountains.
cheers
Post by: Dazzler on April 14, 2009, 21:37:35
hi Lindlake is your car Blue?
i tow a 8x5 with my v8 ute get better economy than that doing those speeds, can tow 2300kg.
did you have trailer tyres blown up max pressure? but 110kph would be useing every horse the i30 has, if it was you i saw you were heading towards some good size mountains.
cheers
I believe our friend was using an Auto CRDi.. to boot.. :cool:
Post by: lindlake on April 15, 2009, 02:56:44
yes it is blue and we went to the blue montains on the way home yes it is a auto i had the tyres up to max air preesure and the car to 35 psihi Lindlake is your car Blue?
i tow a 8x5 with my v8 ute get better economy than that doing those speeds, can tow 2300kg.
did you have trailer tyres blown up max pressure? but 110kph would be useing every horse the i30 has, if it was you i saw you were heading towards some good size mountains.
cheers
I believe our friend was using an Auto CRDi.. to boot.. :cool:
Post by: Lakes on April 15, 2009, 08:27:57
how did the brakes handle the job? and could you feel the load a lot?
cheers
Post by: lindlake on April 15, 2009, 08:38:29
Post by: ouri30 on April 15, 2009, 09:11:11
Thats the car i saw, Asome for a car that size, and useing that road, i think the auto would be good as torque converter would help mulitply torque. get your auto serviced on time to be safe.
how did the brakes handle the job? and could you feel the load a lot?
cheers
Lakes,
Had a feeling it was lindlake's car (and trailer) you saw. Interesting how members see each other from time to time and we make the connection.
Bob
Post by: ozsnowman on April 15, 2009, 11:57:05
Post by: Dazzler on April 15, 2009, 12:02:44
How does the little '30 go towing? I looked into a camper trailer today that weighs about 300kg, and would fit beautifully behind Wiggy :)
You've got a manual diesel.. so should be a "piece of cake" !
Post by: lindlake on April 15, 2009, 12:06:45
Post by: Lakes on April 15, 2009, 19:49:10
with towing it is more how strong the tow bar is and how strong the part of the car it is mounted too is, as does not matter how well the motor pulls it if the tow bar breaks away from the car. also too much weight could be risky with front wheel drive? then you have aditional wear and tear on brakes and clutch and tyres, need to keep tyres inflated higher or use tyres designed for heavier weight. less fun on a trip, for short trips to do odd jobs ok but long trips not suitable. i could tow 800kg with my V8 ute and get 12L/100k driving 110 / 120 hills don't effect it that much, and could get from 10L/100 to 11L/100k going easy at 90kph the ute can pull that @ 1,500rev easy. but city driving is what kills economy on a V8 and the little i30 CRDi is good at economy in the city
Post by: Nev75 on August 01, 2009, 23:33:55
I'm still on my first tank, almost through it ... averaging about 6.5l/100 with my CRDi SLX auto diesel. That's a mix of city and freeway driving, without using any tricks mentioned in this forum, such as keeping it in neutral at traffic lights, or the torque converter one (which I don't fully get yet).
Post by: Dazzler on August 02, 2009, 09:01:54
Tassie is usually a bit dearer than other mainland states but sitting around mid twenties (unleaded and diesel at the moment) :D
Post by: Blue on August 08, 2009, 12:44:15
I was surprised that the high(ish) constant 110kph speed freeway run chews a lot more fuel than the mixed urban / suburban 50 - 80kph runs.
On the freeway the 'puter was showing 5.3 p/hkm... by the time I got home (through the city / towns) it was down to 4.9. (It was better in traffic! How does that work?)
i think this proves the CRDi really does need a 6th gear for the long hauls.
Post by: Dazzler on August 08, 2009, 12:48:46
i think this proves the CRDi really does need a 6th gear for the long hauls.
It could certainly pull a higher top gear on the highway..
Post by: pixsta on August 09, 2009, 06:46:29
I am a bit disappointed from my first measurements from my 90PS engine (appr. 960km driven in total):
First tank: 5.9 litres (boardcomputer) vs. 6.5 litres measured "by hand" (I don't know which value is more trustable...). Mostly city traffic with many stops, 40% highways with speeds 130-170km/h.
Yesterday I went for a quick drive, speeds around 160-170km/h, with clima automatic, almost whole time in 6th gear and the avg. fuel consumption was 6.9-7.0 litres :eek:.
Post by: murrayhewitt on August 09, 2009, 06:54:03
Post by: pixsta on August 09, 2009, 09:30:32
170km/h and good fuel economy are pretty much mutually exclusive.. i reckon they are pretty good figures for that speed, though.
yeah, they are ok, but my Skoda Octavia (~same specs as the i30) needs 1.5l less at those speeds. But perhaps my car just needs some more km.
Post by: murrayhewitt on August 09, 2009, 13:27:19
Post by: SRT Metro on August 12, 2009, 09:39:40
557 Liter Diesel.
= 7.0L/100km
Best = 5.9L/100km
Worst = 8.8L/100km
Measured figures and a heavy foot.
Post by: Lakes on August 16, 2009, 08:56:43
Post by: Blue on August 16, 2009, 11:43:07
Just thought i would report that i have been only useing Caltex vortex diesel for the past few months now and this last tank i averaged 5 L Per 100K mostly in syd driving fast and with temps low but today its warming up 25's in the country i'm averaging 4.8L 100k stock as a rock 40,500k manuel SX with SLX wheels.
Hmm... sorry Lakes, is that attributed to the increase in temps, or the Country Driving Vs Sydney Driving???
Post by: Lakes on August 16, 2009, 20:04:06
i think you will see a drop in your consumption of about .2 or .3 when summer comes. but i don't drive slow, but also i don't normally rev motor hard eather i drive fast in 5th.
cheers
Post by: Lofty UK on August 30, 2009, 21:00:35
I have covered 14k miles.
I still cannot achieve anything like the mpg that Hyundai quote.
Different types of driving average 48mpg, 50mpg on motorway only - figures verified by calculating no. of litres purchased and miles covered which proves that the trip is disappointingly correct!
Service garage say there is nothing wrong with the car.
Hyundai will take no responsibility, neither will the VCA, Advertising Standards Agency say they are unable to proceed with my complaint as someone else has already made a complaint. There seems to be a cartel operated in the Uk between the Govt and Hyundai!
I am very pleased with the car apart from this issue - the brochure and VCA fgures quoted 60mpg combined - so after 14k miles I feel I should not still be 12mpg short of the quoted figures!
Not happy as I bought this car as opposed to an EcoCar as the mpg was so close to these models.
Post by: Shambles on August 30, 2009, 21:53:49
I have now had my i30 for 10 months - 1.6 cdi manual.Had Fergie for 18 months now, covered exactly 30030 miles. Consumption meter showing 63.5 mpg since last reset many 000's of miles ago. Almost exclusively motorway driving, apart from a handful of miles to get on and off the m/way.
I have covered 14k miles.
I still cannot achieve anything like the mpg that Hyundai quote.
Different types of driving average 48mpg, 50mpg on motorway only
I drive very gently...
Post by: eye30 on August 31, 2009, 11:05:00
I still cannot achieve anything like the mpg that Hyundai quote.
Different types of driving average 48mpg, 50mpg on motorway only - figures verified by calculating no. of litres purchased and miles covered which proves that the trip is disappointingly correct!
Don't forget the figures quoted are - IDEAL - driving conditions.
This is simulated driving and will be nothing like "normal" driving.
My view is, if you look at other marques, I wonder how many actually achieve the manufacturers results?
Also,your MPG's will vary depending on how your driving style - hard or gentle acceleration/braking and also the type of traffic you are driving in.
Depending on time of year I'm averaging out between 48 (cold weather reduces MPG's) to 54 (warm weather).
I drive in a mixture of heavy/light/urban roads and motorway and currently my read out is showing 54.3 MPG
Post by: accim on September 07, 2009, 08:36:07
Currently it's showing me 5,8 l/100 km, I usually reset it twice or three times a month.. After a day or two it usually stops like I've said - somewhere between 5,6-5,8..
I think the computer is showing me quite accurate readings, because I fill up the car usually 5 times a month (to the top), but I use only half of the fifth tank - I do a bit over 4,000 kms monthly
I "blame" the highways for my poor (poor compared to your) fuel consumption - It is the highways, that I mostly use.. I'm about 5 miles from the highway and wherever I go I mostly use them. "Normal" roads over here suck.. :rolleyes:
Funny thing is, that two of my friends have Kia Ceed with 1.6 CRDI 115 hp and 90 hp. Their fuel consumption is aroud 6-6,7 lit/100 km.. They have a bit more city-driving, but not that much.. They are also considered as "normal drivers.."
Post by: Thumper on September 08, 2009, 03:59:26
Not bad for 2lt auto turbo diesel pushing almost 1.9 ton.
22,000km just starting to free up.
8)
Post by: andys101 on September 29, 2009, 22:40:42
http://www.spritmonitor.de/en/
You put in all your fuel costs etc and it gives you mpg / L/100km etc
Been using it for ages.
You can search for the make of vehicle and see what fuel economy real people are getting!!
Post by: andys101 on September 29, 2009, 22:46:37
http://www.spritmonitor.de/en/detail/214566.html
You can also have you economy in your Sig see below, although mine is blank at the mo.