Post by: Dazzler on October 06, 2014, 08:35:09
:link: 2015 Hyundai Genesis 5.0 Detailed Review and Road Test - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWZXf0JH_P4)
Post by: cruiserfied on October 06, 2014, 09:02:43
Not yet anyway.
Post by: Tourer_Guy on November 06, 2014, 04:37:23
The good:
1) It's big. Really, really big, at least that's how it looks on the road. It looks as wide as a bus. Styling-wise, superb.
2) It's low to the ground and has a sporty, almost Jaguar look about it.
3) Nice wheels and lights.
The not so good:
1) Paint looked decidely non-premium. The one I saw was blue, and the paint looked like it was from a cheap SUV.
If they bring the V8 to Australia, I'd struggle not to buy one. But I'm not getting one as a 3.8litre 6.
Post by: Phil №❶ on November 06, 2014, 05:30:12
Post by: Dazzler on November 06, 2014, 07:45:51
:weneedpics:
:link: Hyundai Genesis - Hyundai Motor Company Australia (http://www.hyundai.com.au/vehicles/genesis?ppc=1&gclid=CNOT5Ie-5cECFVcDvAodECUAhg&gclsrc=aw.ds#intro)
Post by: Phil №❶ on November 06, 2014, 09:03:48
Post by: Dazzler on November 06, 2014, 09:43:14
Post by: Phil №❶ on November 06, 2014, 09:44:38
Post by: The Gonz on November 06, 2014, 11:04:49
Post by: plasticphyte on November 06, 2014, 12:03:08
His complaints about interior trim are pretty much the same as mine for the i30. Hard plastic trim where cloth covered trim would be better suited, and edge finishing that doesn't seem to line up (doors + dash as he pointed out in the video).
Also as he mentioned, Hyundai are doing really well at giving you a car that is 98% of an equivalent "x" brand vehicle. I can't help but think that Hyundai could give you a 100% car for just a little more dosh. And frankly, the first thing I would do with that extra cash, is ask the graphics designers & marketing teams to modernise the logo.
Post by: cruiserfied on November 06, 2014, 14:07:13
Post by: The Gonz on November 06, 2014, 20:53:15
... I'll get my alone time with it thoughSounds spiritual. :lol:
Post by: Dazzler on November 06, 2014, 20:55:47
I'm on Holidays this week and it's absolutely killing me to know there might be a Genesis at work getting prepped by someone else. I'll get my alone time with it though
Don't get me wrong.. I would love to check one out and even drive one... I imagine it would be quieter and perhaps more grunty than the Calais and some of the stuff in the extras packs sounds great too.. :goodjob:
Post by: Dazzler on November 06, 2014, 20:56:31
... I'll get my alone time with it thoughSounds spiritual. :lol:
For Cruiserfied it is! :D
Post by: Dazzler on November 07, 2014, 01:28:58
:link: Hyundai Genesis first drive video review (http://media.drive.com.au/cars/car-reviews/hyundai-genesis-first-drive-video-review-5960780.html?eid=email:nnn-13omn581-ret_newsl-membereng:nnn-04/11/2013-drive-dom-motoring-nnn-drive-u&campaign_code=13IAU000&promote_channel=edmail&mbnr=MTIzNzM5OTI)
Post by: Doggie 1 on November 07, 2014, 07:47:10
Post by: Surferdude on November 07, 2014, 09:15:21
Not sure why she was there. A possible change from Citroen, maybe?
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll46/TrevG27/10710884_869160606451682_424213082184214840_n_zps324dfdea.jpg)
Post by: Doggie 1 on November 07, 2014, 09:16:35
Post by: Surferdude on November 07, 2014, 09:18:38
Can you introduce me to Molly? :undecided:Here you go.
Just join in.
https://www.facebook.com/MollyRally?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/MollyRally?fref=ts)
Post by: Surferdude on November 07, 2014, 09:22:20
:link: NSSCC Rallysprint. My unsuccessful attempt at Italian pace notes - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_vCIfQa3A&feature=youtu.be)
Post by: Doggie 1 on November 07, 2014, 09:22:50
Can you introduce me to Molly? :undecided:Here you go.
Just join in.
http://www.facebook.com/MollyRally?fref=ts (http://www.facebook.com/MollyRally?fref=ts)
Thanks.
But I actually meant a little more personally. :Pout:
Post by: Surferdude on November 07, 2014, 09:25:10
Some people are never happy.Can you introduce me to Molly? :undecided:Here you go.
Just join in.
http://www.facebook.com/MollyRally?fref=ts (http://www.facebook.com/MollyRally?fref=ts)
Thanks.
But I actually meant a little more personally. :Pout:
I remember when she was just a bump in her mother's tummy.
Hell. I remember far to many adults of today like that. :disapp:
Post by: Doggie 1 on November 07, 2014, 09:26:35
She has a sense of humour too. This was a recent rallysprint in Sydney with her trying her hand at co-driving.
:link: NSSCC Rallysprint. My unsuccessful attempt at Italian pace notes - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_vCIfQa3A&feature=youtu.be)
:lol:
She sounds like a real screamer.
I can help with chicanes. :D
Post by: Surferdude on November 07, 2014, 09:27:42
I can't find the run she did in Oirish. "Turn fookin' left NOW! type stuff.She has a sense of humour too. This was a recent rallysprint in Sydney with her trying her hand at co-driving.
:link: NSSCC Rallysprint. My unsuccessful attempt at Italian pace notes - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_vCIfQa3A&feature=youtu.be)
:lol:
She sounds like a real screamer.
I can help with chicanes. :D
Post by: cruiserfied on November 07, 2014, 09:40:38
This is Molly Taylor, daughter of Australian Rally Champion co-driver Coral Taylor at the launch of the Hyundai Genesis (today I think), just before she heads off back to the UK to compete in the Junior WRC in Rally Great Britain (Wales?).Where was that launch?
Not sure why she was there. A possible change from Citroen, maybe?
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll46/TrevG27/10710884_869160606451682_424213082184214840_n_zps324dfdea.jpg)
Post by: Surferdude on November 07, 2014, 11:28:20
Don't know cruisefied. Her parents live in NW Sydney and her Mum is on the board of NRMA but they have a strong connection with Neal Bates Motorsport which is based in Canberra.This is Molly Taylor, daughter of Australian Rally Champion co-driver Coral Taylor at the launch of the Hyundai Genesis (today I think), just before she heads off back to the UK to compete in the Junior WRC in Rally Great Britain (Wales?).Where was that launch?
Not sure why she was there. A possible change from Citroen, maybe?
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll46/TrevG27/10710884_869160606451682_424213082184214840_n_zps324dfdea.jpg)
Post by: Surferdude on November 07, 2014, 11:32:09
:link: Game-changing Genesis launches in Australia - Hyundai Motor Company Australia (http://www.hyundai.com.au/about-hyundai/news/articles/genesis-in-au)
Post by: CraigB on November 07, 2014, 11:42:50
Only got this on the Hyundai website, which you've probably already seen.Base model is $10,000 more than was first discussed, I think 60k is a bit steep for a base model with a V6 :disapp:
:link: Game-changing Genesis launches in Australia - Hyundai Motor Company Australia (http://www.hyundai.com.au/about-hyundai/news/articles/genesis-in-au)
Post by: Dazzler on November 07, 2014, 11:49:15
Only got this on the Hyundai website, which you've probably already seen.Base model is $10,000 more than was first discussed, I think 60k is a bit steep for a base model with a V6 :disapp:
:link: Game-changing Genesis launches in Australia - Hyundai Motor Company Australia (http://www.hyundai.com.au/about-hyundai/news/articles/genesis-in-au)
I agree (Hyundai are pricing themselves out of the market with these newer models ...
I got half a dozen of the Sensory pack Items and one of the ultimate pack items included in my approx $52,300 DRIVE AWAY price...
Makes my Calais V look like a bargain .. I got 3 years free service and 5 years warranty and 5 years road side assistance included too.. :goodjob:
Post by: cruiserfied on November 07, 2014, 13:33:17
As for pricing themselves out of the market, they aren't aiming at Commodores, Falcons and Aurions. The Genesis is at and above the level of the targeted BMW, Mercedes, Audi and Lexus. All reports that I've read have always estimated base price around $60000 which comes under luxury car tax.
It also has 5 years/75000km inclusive servicing.
Post by: Asterix on November 07, 2014, 15:14:26
Don't judge too harshly until you get up close and personal with the car. And even then you'll walk away only knowing half of what makes up the car.
As for pricing themselves out of the market, they aren't aiming at Commodores, Falcons and Aurions. The Genesis is at and above the level of the targeted BMW, Mercedes, Audi and Lexus. All reports that I've read have always estimated base price around $60000 which comes under luxury car tax.
It also has 5 years/75000km inclusive servicing.
Doesn't matter how good the car is when you compare with those brands.
Most carbuyers in the market for a BMW, Mercedes, Audi or Lexus would never ever consider buying a Hyundai, just because of the name.
In many peoples mind a Hyundai is still a budget car, so it will take many years to get into that market even if the Genesis is significant cheaper.
Post by: CraigB on November 07, 2014, 15:43:41
AMG Mercedes are slightly better but our Holden SS, Calais, Caprice and HSV's are all on par with the euro cars now days ( especially the HSV GTS 430kw :mrgreen: ) and people are starting to realise that the euro names are really just overpriced brand names whom in their own country are considered standard vehicles.
As cruiserfied mentioned we probably are judging a little harsh as the standard features and technology in the Genesis is quite amazing for that price really, not sure about the space saver tyre though but being a V6 they were obviously trying to cut down on weight in not overly important areas.
Post by: Dazzler on November 07, 2014, 20:04:17
I'm sure the Genesis is a fine car and a bit better than my new one in the areas of NVH and Safety plus maybe a couple of other areas.
I think it will sell ok but I would never have forked out around 65K (drive away) for the base model... :cool:
Post by: FatBoy on November 07, 2014, 20:12:24
Post by: Phil №❶ on November 07, 2014, 21:56:47
I'd love to have a crash in one, only because of the body safety score, of course.
Personally, I don't care about brand names. When I cruise along the freeway in the Diesel, I smile and every time we encounter a hill, the Diesel catches the petrol car and passes it without effort. That's what is important to me.
Lexus is just a Toyota and they seem to be included in the upper echelon class of car, so no reason Hy can't be there too, but they have to come up with the goods.
Post by: The Gonz on November 08, 2014, 03:38:10
Post by: Dazzler on November 08, 2014, 04:31:17
You mention free GPS updates and I agree, now in an environment when an $80 GPS unit can include lifetime updates. Speaking of which, my 'integrated' Mio Moov A430 temporarily faded in 38 degrees yesterday, so I'm really tempted to chase a cheap upgrade that will automatically sleep when the ignition is off and will include free updates. :victory:
Go for it, you only live once! :lol: (as far as we know) :sweating:
Post by: CraigB on November 08, 2014, 04:42:37
You mention free GPS updates and I agree, now in an environment when an $80 GPS unit can include lifetime updates. Speaking of which, my 'integrated' Mio Moov A430 temporarily faded in 38 degrees yesterday, so I'm really tempted to chase a cheap upgrade that will automatically sleep when the ignition is off and will include free updates. :victory:Not exactly cheap but my Garmin 3597LMT sleeps automatically with free lifetime updates, one of the great features I like is the magnetic mount ( voice activation works sometimes if it understands you :rolleyes: ) :link: nuvi 3597LMT | Garmin (https://buy.garmin.com/en-AU/AU/automotive/in-car-gps/new-2013/nuvi-3597lmt/prod121764.html)
Post by: The Gonz on November 08, 2014, 05:02:55
Post by: Dazzler on November 08, 2014, 05:20:01
Nice features, Craig, thanks. A good start to my revisiting what's on offer. :victory:
This one from Dick Smiths appears to be about the best value (with lifetime maps) I like the Garmins...
:link: Buy GARMIN nuvi 52LM 5.0" GPS | Read Reviews | Dick Smith Online Shopping (http://www.dicksmith.com.au/navigation-travel/garmin-nuvi-52lm-5-0-gps-dsau-d9196)
I only paid $76.50 for the 4.3 Garmin Nuvi 40 with lifetime maps but must be superseded now...
Gave it to Trish for her car now... :goodjob:
Post by: The Gonz on November 08, 2014, 05:56:07
Post by: Dazzler on December 15, 2014, 22:09:40
:link: Hyundai Genesis Named 2015 AutoGuide.com Car of the Year » AutoGuide.com News (http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2014/12/hyundai-genesis-named-2015-autoguide-com-car-of-the-year.html)
Post by: Dazzler on May 14, 2015, 22:04:05
I had a good look and sit in a top of the range Genesis yesterday. A white one with all the bells and whistles (in the showroom at Motors Hyundai Devonport) Didn't take it for a drive though as Kristy was busy.
Must say it is a game changer for Hyundai. Even getting out of my opulent top of the range Holden Calais it felt pretty special and very sumptuous. :mrgreen:
The fit, finish and comfort levels were mind boggling. Trish has a bad arm/ shoulder at the moment so she would have appreciated the powered open/close boot lid. Seats were softer and more padded than the Calais and all the interior materials seemed top quality.
Pity they are so thirsty or I might have considered one (when I bought my Calais)
Got into a new 2 Litre Turbo Sonata next to it afterwards and that felt very down market in comparison (under my Calais as far as interior ambiance was concerned) but obviously a lot cheaper than the Genesis and a bit cheaper than my car so to be expected I suppose.
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/dazzling_darryl056/Genesis_zpsnugnpunv.jpg~original) (http://s294.photobucket.com/user/dazzling_darryl/media/dazzling_darryl056/Genesis_zpsnugnpunv.jpg.html)
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/dazzling_darryl056/GenesisRoof_zpsksfnydbe.jpg~original) (http://s294.photobucket.com/user/dazzling_darryl/media/dazzling_darryl056/GenesisRoof_zpsksfnydbe.jpg.html)
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/dazzling_darryl056/GenesisRear_zpsotstimea.jpg~original) (http://s294.photobucket.com/user/dazzling_darryl/media/dazzling_darryl056/GenesisRear_zpsotstimea.jpg.html)
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/dazzling_darryl056/GenesisInt_zpscunaxex8.jpg~original) (http://s294.photobucket.com/user/dazzling_darryl/media/dazzling_darryl056/GenesisInt_zpscunaxex8.jpg.html)
Post by: Wingerdave on May 15, 2015, 00:18:41
Post by: Doggie 1 on May 16, 2015, 02:24:49
I'd still take one over a Holden Cialis though. :mrgreen:
Post by: Dazzler on May 16, 2015, 02:30:40
They're not serious until they give us the V8.
I'd still take one over a Holden Cialis though. :mrgreen:
:kissmyass: :kissmyass: :harhar:
Post by: Doggie 1 on May 16, 2015, 02:34:49