Post by: i30Dave on June 21, 2008, 10:55:37
I will be posting my results and observations over the coming weeks.
I filled up my car for the first time today
took 53 litres to full.It clicked off at 45 litres, but i managed to squeeze another 8 litres in.
When i picked up the car the trip computer read 30l/100km. After a
day of driving around town it dropped to 12.4l/100km. The distance to
empty reads 520km but i'm hopping i get a bit more than that.
Post by: Dazzler on June 21, 2008, 11:12:08
They didn't give you much fuel in her then?
Rgds,
Dazz
Post by: i30Dave on June 21, 2008, 11:18:28
. At least i can start my experiments fromday one knowing how much fuel i've actually put in.
Post by: awj2005 on June 21, 2008, 12:10:16
when i picked up my car it had half a tank in it so i dont know.
when i was delivering junk mail (only do it on wkends for extra $$$) i saw a i30 with dealer plates on it and the person driving it was giving the poor car S**T so yeah dont know what mine had on it when i first got it but yeah mine coulda been somewhere round there to. BTW the lowest ive had my fuel consumption without trying is 6.8L/100Km if u can get lower than that tell me please....
anyway
catchya
ash
Post by: i30Dave on June 22, 2008, 06:45:44
Fuel gauge is reading 3/4 full.
Post by: Dazzler on June 22, 2008, 09:32:54
Post by: i30Dave on June 22, 2008, 09:36:41
Quote from: "dazzling_darryl"
That's impressive...
trip computer reads 320km-empty so we'll see what happens
Post by: Dazzler on June 22, 2008, 09:54:32
Post by: i30Dave on June 22, 2008, 10:03:39
Post by: WFC on June 22, 2008, 15:55:38
Post by: Hemmi on June 22, 2008, 16:32:54
Post by: EymaTeapot on June 23, 2008, 12:27:38
You make a good point. A lot of the talk on this site is about the amazing fuel economy of the deisel model so its easy to overlook just how impressive the economy for the 2.0L petrol is. Most 2.0L cars in this class average upwards of 8lp/100k. The hyundai i30 uses just 7.2 according to the sticker. Infact a lot of 1.8L vechiles, ie Corolla, Tiida, use more than that. It would i imagine be the best in its class for fuel economy. :lol:
Post by: Dazzler on June 23, 2008, 12:38:31
Post by: EymaTeapot on June 23, 2008, 12:51:47
Post by: Dazzler on June 23, 2008, 13:10:10
Post by: awj2005 on June 25, 2008, 13:15:21
atm my car is sitting at 8.6litres/100km but that involved some lead foot driving but yeah and with a light foot on the open rode i can have it sitting at around 7.5/100kms thats alright but would like it to be lower
ash
Post by: icatcher on June 25, 2008, 19:06:37
But still better than the 10.7 I scored with my Tucson...
I only drive city-trips, almost no freeway.
It has a 1.6 engine.
Tony
Post by: Dazzler on June 25, 2008, 23:41:11
We don't get a 1.6 petrol over here only the Getz and accent do...
With their 2.0 ltr petrol the guys would probably struggle to get 7.7 with just city driving...
Rgds,
Dazz
Post by: i30Dave on June 29, 2008, 05:57:16
and i got 690k's out of my first tank, so 700 is acheivable. The fuel light
seems to come on at around 60kl's left. So far i'm very happy with the i30's
performance.
Post by: eye30 on June 29, 2008, 13:49:36
Quote from: "i30Dave"
My fuel economy is 8.1ltr/100km
What is this in good old imperial measurements - mpg?
Post by: Lakes on June 29, 2008, 21:08:25
Quote from: "i30Dave"
I have now done 1200k's in my first week. My fuel economy is 8.1ltr/100km
and i got 690k's out of my first tank, so 700 is acheivable. The fuel light
seems to come on at around 60kl's left. So far i'm very happy with the i30's
performance.
Hey Dave, when you get the fuel light on, try fulling the petrol right to the top and tell us how many Liters you get into it. as the diesel gets 57 Liters into that 52Lt tank just wondering if the petrol does the same.
also when i was in Adelaide i noticed it is mostly flat so would not be hard to get good economy in the petrol there, come to Sydney i live on a hill. my V8 ute is 5.4Lt and i have got 8.9L /per 100K on a trip over blue mountains going easy going fast over those mountains gets 10.2L /per 100k i had a falcon 6 auto ute b4 that and the mountains killed economy if you drove hard. TQ helps economy a lot on hills. thats why i chose diesel i go 800k on a tank in my ute
cheers
Post by: Dazzler on June 29, 2008, 23:04:48
Think 8.1 = approx 30 MPG (although that seems low...) or high ... depending on which way you look at it!
Cheers,
Dazz
Post by: Hemmi on June 29, 2008, 23:43:15
Post by: ccy on July 04, 2008, 14:40:22
Post by: Dazzler on July 04, 2008, 23:11:20
Don't think we've got any pix of red i30 in "show of your car..."
Can we have some of yours please? Think ember red is a different (darker red) than the solid red we get over here...
Rgds,
Dazz
Post by: Shambles on July 04, 2008, 23:12:21
Post by: buddyforu on July 05, 2008, 13:14:50
Quote from: "i30Dave"
I have now done 1200k's in my first week. My fuel economy is 8.1ltr/100km
and i got 690k's out of my first tank, so 700 is acheivable. The fuel light
seems to come on at around 60kl's left. So far i'm very happy with the i30's
performance.
That is astonishingly good fuel economy from the manual 2.0L petrol. My SR (Auto) has seen a low fuel consumption figure of 8.0L/100km on the highway. The most out of a tank I get around town would be 450-480km (it averages around 10-11L/100km around town). I guess if ALL my driving was out on the highway, I'd be getting 600km+ as well. So far I have done 3900km since January.
Post by: Dazzler on July 05, 2008, 13:19:10
Welcome back.. I for one have missed you ... don't forget to vote for steel grey in the "what colour" poll ( that will make Dave and Eyma and Thumper and ?? happy)
Our club has certainly grown since we last heard from you!
A big cheers from Dazz :mrgreen:
Post by: buddyforu on July 05, 2008, 13:31:05
I should mention in my post above, I am still putting less than about 46L in the car each time I fill up. Maybe I should see how long the tank can go? I just worked out my average consumption from my fuel log book, and it works out that since January, with mostly around town driving, I'm averaging 8.57L/100km. I actually thought it would be higher than that! My most expensive tank of fuel so far has been $70.28.
Post by: Dazzler on July 05, 2008, 13:34:42
Your figures seem quite reasonable for a 2.0ltr auto...
There's plenty of activity on the site with 110 members and growing...
and lots of reading too..
Post by: i30Dave on July 06, 2008, 08:55:08
First tank : 690km's - Unleaded 98 octane - 53 litres
Second tank : 600km's - Unleaded 91 octane - 53 litres
If this is anything to go by then i will be only using 98
octane fuel in the future. I filled up today the DTE was reading
"---" and i managed to get 58 litres in. So i'm hoping for the magic
700km barrier this tank.
Post by: buddyforu on July 06, 2008, 09:32:31
Post by: Dazzler on July 06, 2008, 10:41:54
Any noticeable difference in driveability or performance with the 98 octane?
Post by: Lakes on July 07, 2008, 21:14:04
cheers
Post by: Dazzler on July 07, 2008, 23:54:14
Was interested how much difference hi-octane makes to the i30 petrol (as it makes a lot more difference with cars tuned to use it than with some other models)
Guess Dave or someone else who has tried it in their i30 Petrol will advise in due course.
Dave must be busy since he got the new SR (not on here much lately) ...
I might have to spend a little less time on here soon when my house starts going up (or the wife will growl)..
Cheers,
Dazz
Post by: tk421 on July 08, 2008, 03:27:27
I’m averaging about 7.8 l/100km on regular unleaded after 5000km. I do drive it like a miser though. I once managed to get it down to 7.0 l/100km after a 50km journey, but that was with almost no traffic on the roads. Most of my driving is done on highways during times of low traffic.
I’m yet to try the higher octane fuels, but will give them a go in the next few months and see if they’re any better.
Tim
Post by: Lakes on July 08, 2008, 03:57:30
Quote from: "dazzling_darryl"
Hi John,
Was interested how much difference hi-octane makes to the i30 petrol (as it makes a lot more difference with cars tuned to use it than with some other models)
Guess Dave or someone else who has tried it in their i30 Petrol will advise in due course.
Dave must be busy since he got the new SR (not on here much lately) ...
I might have to spend a little less time on here soon when my house starts going up (or the wife will growl)..
Cheers,
Dazz
Dazz, to get full benifet of high octain ( but this is just 98 RON not 98 PON ) you need to have enough compression, the EFI ECU normally has power and economy programed in so when you get better fuel it changes it's settings, if you have poor fuel quality it will set to the least aggressive settings. using hi octain fuel does not mean you will have more HP, in some cases you will have less HP. the motor makes best power right on the Virge of detonation.
cheers
Post by: ouri30 on July 08, 2008, 05:27:12
With a previous vehicle, I was told that if I swapped from standard fuel to high octane or for that matter an ethonol blend, it would be sometime before the ECU would make the adjustments relative to the fuel type. If this is correct, swapping and change frequently will not be of benefit (and may have the ECU very confused). Again, if I am right, it would pay to stick to the same fuel for a while before making comparisons.
Another way around this may be to reset the ECU (wipe it clean). There are a number of ways this can be done and if you Google it, there is a wealth on information on how to go about resetting the ECU. Some drivers even do this to secondhand cars they buy. They say it is one way of having the car forget the driving styles and habits of the previous owner and get the engine to respond to their techniques and habits.
I am not promoting resetting the ECU. I would not like to mess with this myself.
Bob
Post by: Lakes on July 10, 2008, 04:42:34
I have not done much reserch on different make cars ECU, but my Falcon ute is a three valve per cylinder V8 5.4L it can run on standard unlead, but if i run it for months on standard unlead, then run it low and fill it right up on say BP ultimate 98 or Shell V-Power i can notice a gain in feel and responce fairly quickly it also gets better economy.
also as it is set on the rich side if you give it Wide open throtle the Air Fuel Ratio is very rich, so with the High octain 100 shell make it tends to lean out the air fuel ratio slightly so you get better responce that you can feel. reason is ethanole or methanole at 100% would be ideal about from 7 to 9 AFR were as ideal for normal unlead is from 12.7 to 14.2 12.7 being on the performance side as richest for all out HP ( my falcon goes even richer wide open) and the 14.2 being as lean as is safe for economy but if your runing at 14.2 and you use wide open throtle for a long period can do damage as that would be as lean as they would go if your driving easy and the ECU goes to economy mode. but if your air sensor plays up the ECU does not work right and can cause problems. Ford use there own type of ECU and does not use a chip, but people can plug in overide to adjust them, the best seems to be a compleat replacement like Autronic or MoTeC
Cheers
Post by: Hemmi on July 12, 2008, 23:02:56
I changed gear after 2000rpm, so that seems to be better than changing after 2500rmp, like I always did.
I got 6.6l/100km and I think that's quite good, then I drove like I usually do and got 6.9l/100km.
For those who don't know how to reset the meter, just hold the trip button in for 2-3 seconds.
Post by: i30Dave on July 22, 2008, 09:57:41
7.6l/100km (factory quoted economy)
Post by: G14Classified101 on July 27, 2008, 11:40:37
Post by: Lakes on August 02, 2008, 20:59:00
Quote from: "G14Classified101"
In my brand new 2.0L SR my best has been 6.9 for like 5 mins but it is averagin between 7.2 and 8.1 depending where i am. I am running caltex 98. Nothing beats it. And when she is run in using ecstacy octane booster pills. bump it up to 110RON or there abouts.Mate, the 98 caltex 98 BP 98 MObil are all very good as they keep your motor clean inside, but raising the octain useing pil's is a waist of time and $, and if indeed it raises octain to 110 it will make your car slower, as your motor will make its best power when it is just at the virge of detonation if you have not got enough compresson and you put slow burning fuel in it will make less power and would do nothing for fuel economy.
there is different ways to measure octain. the 98 octain we have is measured at the refinery so they call it RON ( Refinery octain number ) in USA they measure there octain at the pump so in most cases PON ( pump octain number ) is 92 or 93 premium is about same as our 98 as each time you pump or pore fuel it looses octain. for race cars all they care about is MON (motor octain number). if you have race fuel that is rated at 110 octain you would need around 13. to 1 compression make power. just thought i'd point this out. some of the stuff they sell is not that good.
Cheers
Post by: Markusus on August 11, 2008, 14:16:28
My fuel consumtion is now 7.2 - 7.5 for HEAVY town traffic conditions.
For highway (100-120km/h) it is 6.3 to 6.6.
For combined ride (town, out-of-town roads) it is 6.3 to 6.8.
I was also able to achieve 5.8-5.9 on some roads, but in town it always jumps higher of course.
Generally I can say - the real average consumption is mostly between 6.7 to 7.0 litres.
It depends very much on the style of your driving. If you shift between 2000-2500rpm - you can get what I get - but if you drive more aggressively (hard to resist especially because petrol i30 is starting some serious torque above 3500
) - it will rise of course.---
Also -- I wanted to ask - it there any sense/reason in fueling 98 octane petrol instead of 95 octane petrol? (We are talking about EU "normalized" petrol - sold in Czech and Slovak Republic)? What is your experience?
Post by: eye30 on August 11, 2008, 16:33:43
Quote from: "Markusus"
Also -- I wanted to ask - it there any sense/reason in fueling 98 octane petrol instead of 95 octane petrol? (We are talking about EU "normalized" petrol - sold in Czech and Slovak Republic)? What is your experience?
When I had petrol Accent 1.3l I tried both grades of petrol. The only difference I found was on the pocket.
However, a friend had a 1.8l or 2l Audi and he reckoned with the higher octane the car ran better and he got 5 -10 extra miles per gallon. I think it was all in his mind! (my theory was because the cost was more he didn't raz the car as much).
My advice would be to try both and then choose according.
Post by: Markusus on August 11, 2008, 16:42:22
Quote from: "eye30"
Quote from: "Markusus"My advice would be to try both and then choose according.
sounds like a lot of testing and trying - i am unsure I'll be able to find some conclusions in weeks already. Anyone has experience with I30 petrol directly? (and octane 95 vs 98 petrol?)
Post by: G14Classified101 on August 12, 2008, 11:09:03
I havent put anything other than 98 in the i30 so i cant tell you if its better.
Post by: bumpkin on August 23, 2008, 21:35:43
Have just come back from a short holiday where I totalled approx 550 miles of Scottish up, down roundabout, stop, start driving on one tank of petrol which I thought was pretty damn good, especially considering we were fully laden with suitcases, food and all the other extraneous junk that a 3.5 year old requires for a week away from home for about half of the mileage and the car has only just done its first 1000 miles so going by the comments should if anything get even better. Sorry for the imperial measurements, I cant be bothered converting at this time of night!!
Cheers
Brian
Post by: Dazzler on August 24, 2008, 00:26:25
Post by: Shamanix on August 24, 2008, 13:32:57
I am driving on gas fuel, so I am doing ~130km for only 10 US$ = 10 liters of gas in city traffic
Post by: Markusus on August 30, 2008, 12:14:52
There is a solution for that called ScanGauge2 - I wanted to ask about anyone's experience with it here...
And eventually - is there another product that can do the job maybe even better?
I am considering to buy it but I wonder if there is any seller - shop that has it in Slovak Republic or Czech Republic.
Also I wonder where is some SERIOUS shope with I30 accessories in Slovakia, Czech Rep. or evenutally Vienna - because all Hyundai official sellers in here have NOTHING special to sell - SHAME! --- any tips how to get some good stuff (like better protective bumpers, etc...)?
Some of you guys post REALLY good results with regards to FC - like 800km driven on one full tank, etc... was it in real conditions - combined drive - highway and town - fully loaded?
thanks,
Post by: cammj on September 01, 2008, 10:49:48
Post by: ouri30 on September 01, 2008, 11:16:39
The computer calculation of LPH km is not rocket science. It waits about 50m and then reports the fuel usage (LPH km) as an average for the distance travelled since the trip computer was reset. It keeps calculating it as an average until it is reset. At the beginning (after the reset), it flips around a bit until you have done a few kms, then it settles down. If you don't reset it (I reset it at each refill), you get a good idea of the average for a tank full. Recently, on a long trip interstate, I did not reset it until the trip was completed. I did this to get an idea of what the fuel economy would be like over a distance of around 3900km at highway speeds on such a trip. Once I had done around 1500km, the fuel consumption reported did not change, sitting on 5.0 LPH until I finished the trip. We have a diesel, so the figure is of little interest to petrol i30 owners.
Bob
Post by: buddyforu on September 05, 2008, 11:59:07
Post by: Dazzler on September 05, 2008, 12:15:19
Post by: donc on September 07, 2008, 03:41:35
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I'd like to test the difference between fueling octane 95 and 98 petrol. But one thing that REALLY bothers me is the missing Immediate Fuel Consumption Info on Trip Computer! I really don't get it why they only put average FC there! MAN!...Hi Markusus - I'm a bit of a stickler for vehicle statistics - my wife says it's a personality flaw
- If you really want accurate info, forget about the trip computer because it's inherently linked to the inbuild inaccuracy of the speedo/odometer (can be as much as 10% depending on tyre size and pressures).I use an iMate Ultimate mobile phone/GPS loaded with Copilot Live that as well as stopping me from getting lost, also calculates most of my vehicle stats - just enter the litres each time I fill-up and it gives a very accurate indicator of true consumption. Added bonus is it's also loaded with Google Maps and Street and being 'net enabled gives access to Sensis and Whitepages.com etc. Plus it's a blue-tooth mobile and sits very nicely in the little tray beneath the dash. Easily visible without distracting from the road. Only criticism I have of the i30 is that it's not bluetooth enabled even though mot cars are nowadays - I had to fit a BlueAnt to make the phone/GPS hands-free.
Post by: ouri30 on September 08, 2008, 08:59:05
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the trip computer because it's inherently linked to the inbuild inaccuracy of the speedo/odometer (can be as much as 10% depending on tyre size and pressures).
The 10% inaccuracy that exists is related to the speed indicated by the needle on the speedometer. It does not relate to the distances indicated on the odometer and hence the information on the trip computer. I have checked the odometer against the GPS and found the error to be minimal. By all means, check it if you want and make your own judgements. Also, the distances reported by the ODBII port are near enough to correct, as is the speed reported by this port. The greatest error I have found over 1000+km is less than 10km (less than 1%). If fuel filling at the bowser to calculate fuel consumption the errors involved in most instances will be greater than 1%.
Manufacturers build in the error on the speedometer dial so that it is always registering over the actual speed for legal reasons. As the distance travelled will not result in legal challenges, they can be far more accurate in reporting the actual distances + or - a minimal error. For this reason the odometer readouts are going to far more accurate.
So, in short, it is my belief and experience that the speedo is out, but the odometer is as near as possible to accurate given the limitations of such a complex measuring device. I would hazard at a guess that fuel bowser calibration and fillup methods used by owners involve equal or greater errors.
Bob
Post by: donc on September 09, 2008, 03:40:57
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The 10% inaccuracy that exists is related to the speed indicated by the needle on the speedometer. It does not relate to the distances indicated on the odometer and hence the information on the trip computer.Hi Bob,
The speedo and odometer are mechanically linked so variances in one equally impacts the other. Also if you recall the legal case against Honda last year, (affecting all US models produced between 2002-6) it's evident that if an odometer overstates the KM traveled there can be severe implications under law (impact on car warranty conditions etc.) - hence odometers also understate the KM you travel by design.
However the factor with the largest impact on speedo and odometer readings remains car tires and wheels - A lot of people in my part of the world fit oversize "winter-tread" type tires to their cars because of the types of road surface they use, to improve vehicle economy and tire life expectancy. Conversely a 15 psi drop in tire pressure can result in as much as a 20% discrepancy in odometer and speedo readings. Lots of factors can impact on this, which is why a GPS is a far more accurate way of measuring km's traveled - it measures distances from a geographical perspective. An odometer only measures how many times your wheels turn around.
Post by: Lakes on September 09, 2008, 10:37:44
i know my i30 speedo is a bit happy , just thought the trip reads fairly close. I know about Tyre's expanding but don't think it is that dramatic, i run my tyres at around 40psi ( thats if my tyre pressure gauge is still accurate.)
Those imates are good.
Post by: ouri30 on September 09, 2008, 11:07:33
Now, this is what I have discovered:
The Speedo is definitely out about 8-10% depending on what speed you are travelling. I've compared this to the GPS.
The ScanGuage registers speeds with in a 1km tolerance with the GPS at any speed. Should I fit different sized tyres, or should the ScanGuage not be accurate enough, it has the capacity for me to make corrections - I have not needed to do so.
The difference between the GPS and the odometer is around a 1.2% error (not 8-10% as with the speedo). I feel this is a reasonable tolerance.
The difference between the ScanGuage odometer reading and the GPS reading is <1% as is the difference between the ScanGuage and the i30 odometer.
As I have said elsewhere, I believe the errors between the real world and the odometer are acceptable. At worst, they may result in a 0.1LPH error in fuel consumption. Such a variation could easily result from errors in bowser readings and/or variations in filling the tank to the same level.
By all means donc, do your own testing and post your findings. They may differ from mine, but I am happy with how things are with the odometer, although the speedo is way out, as they are on most cars these days. I was a passanger inan Falcon on the weekend and the owner said his speedo is way out too, but his trip computer readings agree with his GPS. Makes you wonder.
Bob
Post by: donc on September 09, 2008, 12:00:21
That the calibration of your odomoter presents a different percentage of error doesn't change this base fact. By the way this isn't an opinion based on home testing of one vehicle (although I commend your enthusiasm!), I am an automotive engineer and have some credibility in this area. I stand by my original observation - a GPS provides a more accurate measure than an odometer if you are interested in knowing the true distance your vehicle travels.
Cheers
Post by: donc on September 09, 2008, 12:08:26
Quote from: "Lakes"
That's interesting don.Hi Lakes,
i know my i30 speedo is a bit happy , just thought the trip reads fairly close. I know about Tyre's expanding but don't think it is that dramatic, i run my tyres at around 40psi ( thats if my tyre pressure gauge is still accurate.)
Those imates are good.
The change is a lot more dramtic with low tire pressures than high (eg 40 psi), because tire expansion is limited by the radial belts - although an under-inflated tire (eg 15 or 20 psi) will 'fold' when rolling and presents a smaller rolling circumference thereby changing your gearing and overall speedo/odometer accuracy by a not insignificant factor. A more dramatic change occurs when people change the diamater of tires by fitting higher or lower profile tires or change the tire and rim sizes (eg higher profile winter-treads as mention earlier).
Of course were we talking race cars we would also add vehicle geometry to the equation (one reason race car speeds is calculated by satellite navigation systems nowadays)... but not so relevent here.
Post by: EymaTeapot on September 09, 2008, 12:17:58
I have put 18" alloys on my i30. Naturally, they are coupled with a lower profile tryer, 225/40 I think. According to my gps, the speedo is out about 6%.
My question is though, should I be running a higher or lower tryer pressure than is normal.
I currently am running the tryers at around 36psi all round. Maybe this is a bit low?
Post by: Dazzler on September 09, 2008, 12:24:48
Post by: ouri30 on September 09, 2008, 12:28:17
I reckon there's a thread somewhere that looks at tyre pressures that gives lots of info about finding the right pressure.
I'm no expert on pressures. I'm currently running 38psi in the standard kit on 16" rims, even though the plate says 32psi. Seems to be about right I think.
Bob
Post by: donc on September 09, 2008, 12:34:39
Post by: EymaTeapot on September 09, 2008, 12:42:46
36 psi seems about right. The ride is a bit harder than standard as you would exspect. I also had it lowered about 35mm so this also makes the ride a bit harsher but it has improved the handling. Not that there was anything wrong with the handling, even the critics who have for many years critisized Hyundai for their handling praise the dynamics of the i30.
Sorry... this thread is meant to be about petrol economy....oops
Post by: donc on September 09, 2008, 12:51:24
PS - Tires are directly related to fuel economy!
Post by: donc on September 22, 2008, 10:04:19
PS - I don't drive in the city at all - all my driving is in the country so my fuel consumption is probably not typical, but still it's quite a bit better than what I get out of our 2.0 litre Mazda (usually runs around 8L/100k).
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6854/litrespkmke7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Post by: donc on September 22, 2008, 21:46:18
Having had another 50 km to drive (the last leg to get home), I reset all the computer settings and drove a steady 90 kph (94kph by the speedo) for the remainder of the trip.
It took a few km's for the everything to stablilise. For the first 15 km the computer settled on 4.9 L/100k... I then came to a large incline (a small mountain climb), and by the time I was at the top it had risen to 6.1 L/100k (still running at 90kph). Roughtly 30 km in it settled on 5.4 L/100k and stayed there for the rest of the trip.
That's not my normal driving style and I would find it hard to sustain an average of 90kph around here... still I guess an average 80kph would present even lower readings... Seems these cars can be be driven very economically if we choose to do so.
I wonder how low I could get it if I really tried? (has anyone?)
PS - Fuel consumption also seems to be lower on average than when we purchased the car... Not for the first time I'm thinking these cars must be de-tuned at purchase to prevent early engine wear while they are being run-in by possibly novice drivers (not uncommon for manufacturers to do this - Ford has been doing it for years) and reset to proper tune paramaters during the first dealer service.
Post by: bez10y on October 05, 2008, 12:59:12
Using the ScanGaugeII I achieved a 6.5L/100Km whilst the i30 was giving me a figure of 7.1L/100Km. I also filled up just before leaving and had put in the petrol price and got a figure of approximately $22 (AU) for the round trip, the petrol was $1.56/ltr.
Post by: harakas on October 11, 2008, 12:13:21
Post by: eye30 on October 11, 2008, 12:45:06
If you read other threads on this it appears that the fuel consumption will get better as the engine beds in so no need to be unduly worried at present.
By the way can you put your location in your profile so the map can be updated.
Post by: Dazzler on October 11, 2008, 14:11:08
Quote from: "harakas"
hello to everyone!!i drive an i30 (1.4 109ps petrol engine) and my meter shows 7.780 km so far.my consumption is 7.2 but no mater how slow and smooth i drive it won't go any lower.i start to worry if these readings are for real at all.i drive a lot on highways trying not to accelerate too hard but nothing changes.is there something wrong?
Hi harakas (and a warm welcome to the club)
If you do not reset the Trip Computer by holding the button down for a few seconds on the function you wish to clear the computer will just work out the average since last re-set. Therefore the longer you have driven the less it will change.
Try resetting it and after say 20 odd Kilometres (or miles) you should start to get a truer readout for your current results....
Hope that helps
Post by: harakas on October 19, 2008, 12:07:50
Post by: eye30 on October 19, 2008, 13:10:38
Quote from: "harakas"
i live in athens (greece).
To help when replying etc can you update location in your profile.
Post by: Dazzler on October 19, 2008, 20:38:32
Quote from: "harakas"
thank you and "top" for helping advice!!it really worked and i finaly have a more clear view for my car consumption.by the way i live in athens (greece).i think it will be a great idea if you come and visit greece in the summer with your i30!!believe me you will spend the most wonderfull time of your life,especially if you visit any of our lovely islands!!
No Problems... My Late mother was born in Naples Italy (Well actually Caserta in the hills behind) and I have a brother living in Monaco so I might get there for a look one day but would cost thousands to take the i30 there ;)
Post by: buddyforu on November 11, 2008, 21:02:03
Post by: teamgeorge on November 12, 2008, 02:55:15
the engines must enjoy the cleaner fuel... whats the price difference in a full tank of i30?
Post by: dacho on November 12, 2008, 09:03:42
Post by: Dazzler on November 12, 2008, 10:36:19
Quote from: "buddyforu"
My last tank averaged 7.277L/100km. Awesome!!!
Hi Buddy, Welcome back
Post by: L30N on November 16, 2008, 21:51:33
Post by: eye30 on November 17, 2008, 13:17:05
Quote from: "L30N"
I've never reset the trip computer since the car was new. In the first 3 months we have done 3100 miles or 5000 km. Consumption is showing 36 mpg that's about 7.85 l/100 km mainly town driving. Thanks to google for the conversions
According to the HY UK web site you are returning the Urban figures (37.2 MPG).
How does that compare to what you expected - Good or bad?
Post by: Diva on November 17, 2008, 22:15:08
Post by: SergeyZdravkov on November 17, 2008, 22:29:34
Post by: bumpkin on November 18, 2008, 20:35:48
Post by: eye30 on November 18, 2008, 20:37:55
Quote from: "bumpkin"
I have noticed a severe drop in consumption
Likewise mine has dropped from 54mpg to 51.7mpg.
Post by: Shambles on November 18, 2008, 21:23:07
Quote from: "eye30"
Quote from: "bumpkin"I have noticed a severe drop in consumption
Likewise mine has dropped from 54mpg to 51.7mpg.
I guess I must be just lucky, what with this tuningbox fitted. Averaging 64mpg at the mo *whistling*
Post by: L30N on November 23, 2008, 11:32:41
Quote from: L30NI've never reset the trip computer since the car was new. In the first 3 months we have done 3100 miles or 5000 km. Consumption is showing 36 mpg that's about 7.85 l/100 km mainly town driving. Thanks to google for the conversions <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" />
According to the HY UK web site you are returning the Urban figures (37.2 MPG).
How does that compare to what you expected - Good or bad?
A bit disappointed, however most of our journeys are less than 2 miles and the trip shows an average speed of 24mph.
Post by: Rubix on November 23, 2008, 11:58:01
I've never reset the trip computer since the car was new. In the first 3 months we have done 3100 miles or 5000 km. Consumption is showing 36 mpg that's about 7.85 l/100 km mainly town driving...Reset your trip, your engine is now broken in, you'll find an improvement of around half a litre/100km I'd expect, now your engine is broken in a little.
A bit disappointed, however most of our journeys are less than 2 miles and the trip shows an average speed of 24mph.
Post by: Hemmi on November 25, 2008, 22:58:14
Post by: Rubix on November 26, 2008, 06:10:11
Mine is 7.5, temperature outside has been averaging -2 to 10°CIs that Auto or Manual? Diesel or Petrol?
Post by: Hemmi on November 26, 2008, 14:03:07
Mine is 7.5, temperature outside has been averaging -2 to 10°CIs that Auto or Manual? Diesel or Petrol?
Manual Petrol.
Post by: Rubix on November 26, 2008, 14:58:39
Driving economically is an art - ask Hans or our own Bob and Shambles.
NB - Just as an example for comparing long-distance to short-distance driving: in my Charade, I usually drive very small distances around local metro area for 9.5L/100km - if I do a 1-off 190km return trip to the beach (with 120km being 70-110km/hr constant speed), I get 8.3L/100km. What sort of driving do you do?
Post by: Hemmi on November 26, 2008, 16:07:10
Using higher quality fuel will get you better economy - eg 98 octane instead of the E10 unleaded they sell here in Australia. I don't know what regulations you have in Iceland for fuel quality - maybe the fuel quality isn't so good over there? Second, Petrol is advertised to be @ 6.7L/100km for the manual, from Hyundai's website, but only once broken in will your car get this low.
Driving economically is an art - ask Hans or our own Bob and Shambles.
NB - Just as an example for comparing long-distance to short-distance driving: in my Charade, I usually drive very small distances around local metro area for 9.5L/100km - if I do a 1-off 190km return trip to the beach (with 120km being 70-110km/hr constant speed), I get 8.3L/100km. What sort of driving do you do?
I use 95 octane on my car, but I can get 100 octane V-Power too, isn't that just for sportscars ?
And I should have mentioned that I do not drive economically, I usually rev high and just think economic driving is boring :razz:
I tried it once and got about 6.6, man that was boring I almost had to buy an old mans hat to drive with :lol:
Post by: Rubix on November 27, 2008, 01:48:28
I use 95 octane on my car, but I can get 100 octane V-Power too, isn't that just for sportscars ?I just think if you use higher octane fuel, it's usually cleaner better quality. And I think you've answered your own question :D And don't buy a new hat. Borrow Bob or Thumper's :D
And I should have mentioned that I do not drive economically, I usually rev high and just think economic driving is boring :razz:
I tried it once and got about 6.6, man that was boring I almost had to buy an old mans hat to drive with :lol:
Post by: Thumper on November 27, 2008, 04:05:12
Too many idiots out on the public roads, so just sit on the limit (Or under) and watch them all fly by. Laugh when you see them pulled over just down the road, booked for speeding! :lol:
Post by: Rubix on November 27, 2008, 04:32:22
Laugh when you see them pulled over just down the road, booked for speeding! :lol:Yeah, one of the most enjoyable things to watch while driving I say.
Post by: Markusus on January 19, 2009, 18:00:54
Among other fuel brands...I can pump VPower 95, VPower Racing 100 (both Shell), Carrera 95, Carrera 100 (both OMV), or regular Natural 95 (OMV or Shell). (Location between Czech Republic and Slovak Republic...).
Post by: Rubix on January 20, 2009, 07:34:21
Post by: spillmill on January 22, 2009, 06:04:00
of course, don't use any lower than the manufacturers recommendation
Post by: Rubix on January 22, 2009, 07:03:30
some recent testing in Australia showed that regular unleaded is the cheapest per km, e10 is dearer and then the premium ones are dearer still [citation needed] ;)*however*, although Unleaded works out cheapest overall, it's not MUCH of a saving over the premium fuels (but a huge saving over e10), and the premium fuel adds a more mileage to your engine itself and other parts that are affected by fuel quality (exhaust, filters)
of course, don't use any lower than the manufacturers recommendation
As a side-note, I'm using premium for first 2 fillups (no further than 50% tank at fill up), and I'm at 700km on the clock, and I've got an economy of...
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13.8 L/100km
And that's after reseting it while I was just starting a short trip along the motorway - which had my economy at 6.9 for a minute or 5.
Looks like I gotta break my baby in with a 2,000km trip to Melbourne and back...
Post by: Lakes on January 22, 2009, 07:43:19
Post by: Rubix on January 22, 2009, 07:50:03
On the flip side, I've seen a couple of motors that were non-e10 compliant (ie 5-10yr old motors), that have been running e10 for the past few years, and they look horrible. So much rubbish.
Post by: Lakes on January 22, 2009, 18:58:52
Post by: Duckman on January 28, 2009, 08:15:25
Though, I have yet to get my i30!
Post by: Dazzler on January 28, 2009, 08:22:12
Lakes and some others like plenty of air in the tyres (for economy)
I think I'm running about 34-36 all round as I don't like my ride too firm.
Post by: Duckman on January 28, 2009, 08:26:17
But then again, that's for more fun, rather than economy!
Post by: Lakes on February 11, 2009, 09:36:06
Duckman i just run my tyres same pressure wet or dry and they seem ok, i found under inflated tyres can slip in wet too just need the right inflation.
Post by: ComfortMatt on February 18, 2009, 16:01:16
Post by: Hemmi on February 18, 2009, 16:16:37
Im averaging 550km's per tank in my 1.4. Thats combined motorway and town driving, im not a slow driver but then i dont race the pants off of it. Is this about right. I thought i should get a little bit more??
I get about 650 to 700 in my 1,6 petrol, and I dont drive economically. Most of my driving is motorway.
Post by: bumpkin on February 18, 2009, 18:28:41
Post by: Duckman on February 20, 2009, 00:13:11
Post by: Hemmi on February 20, 2009, 00:15:28
I filled up today with about 43~ litres. I had driven 470km, and I was still sitting on a quarter of a tank! (2.0L Petrol).
The fuel meter runs down slower with full tank, then it will drop faster :wink:
Post by: ComfortMatt on February 20, 2009, 16:13:09
Most of my driving is town and I get about 350 miles to about 45 litres (1.6) in our current temps. During the very cold spell my average was as low as 28mpg :eek:
I dont feel quite so bad now, that roughly what mine is doing.......
Post by: tzwientjuh on March 01, 2009, 11:24:31
The fuel meter runs down slower with full tank, then it will drop faster :wink:It does the opposite in my car :neutral: the first 1/4 of a tank is gone after 120km. They it slows down to about 150, 190 and 200km per 1/4 of a tank.
1/4: 120km
1/4: 150km
1/4: 190km
1/4: 200km
4/4: 660km Total avg.
Post by: awj2005 on March 03, 2009, 07:51:59
cheers
ash
Post by: dacho on March 03, 2009, 08:02:21
Post by: tzwientjuh on March 03, 2009, 19:27:38
Well, after I start to drive my I30 2.0 petrol normal my consumtion is arround 11,5 lit/100km. Well I have only a few km to work so my car never have the time to wormup :neutral:Use your bike!! :lol:
Post by: dacho on March 05, 2009, 14:37:58
Well, after I start to drive my I30 2.0 petrol normal my consumtion is arround 11,5 lit/100km. Well I have only a few km to work so my car never have the time to wormup :neutral:Use your bike!! :lol:
It is too cold :'(
Post by: Duckman on March 05, 2009, 22:29:57
Post by: Duckman on March 13, 2009, 06:50:38
Post by: MRH130 on April 03, 2009, 04:05:49
Crystal only drinks premium though.
Best on a single tank was 6.5 being very gentle.
Cruising speed makes a big difference, I get much better at 100km/h than 110.
Also cruise control is better on the flat but worse when used in hilly terrain. :'(
Post by: snowcherry on May 10, 2009, 05:23:22
i was going to start a new one whether to use 91 vs 98 but it seems to be answered in here.
so it seems 98 is preferred to get a bit mor eout of the engine. what i find odd though is why that is if the engine is built around using 91? or have they perhaps done that so people have the choice to use the cheaper fuel?
:question:
sorry if silly question - i only use 91 in my little ford and never looked into it before
Post by: tji30 on May 10, 2009, 06:57:32
i was going to start a new one whether to use 91 vs 98 but it seems to be answered in here.
so it seems 98 is preferred to get a bit mor eout of the engine.
I think 95 seems to be about the right point actually. Not enough difference between 95 & 98 in these cars to make economic sense. Does do better on 95 that 91 though & definitely woth the extra few cents/litre.
Definitely DON'T use ethonol blend though! That crap is just too highly corrosive even in new cars.
Post by: snowcherry on May 11, 2009, 12:19:12
not allowed to use E10 in the festiva, but my father swears by it for his XR6..... :exclaim:
Post by: tji30 on May 11, 2009, 13:42:13
...my father swears by it for his XR6..... :exclaim:
Seriously??? The XR6 would be one of those that would have noticably less power with E10 (would be harder to notice in the i30) & I think should absolutely be using at least 95 & preferably 98 (probably even states as much in the manual). E10 is less economical that 91 as well so the 2 cents/litre less you pay is eaten up in much lower fuel economy (ie your l/100km goes up).
Post by: Dazzler on May 11, 2009, 14:05:25
...my father swears by it for his XR6..... :exclaim:
Seriously??? The XR6 would be one of those that would have noticably less power with E10 (would be harder to notice in the i30) & I think should absolutely be using at least 95 & preferably 98 (probably even states as much in the manual). E10 is less economical that 91 as well so the 2 cents/litre less you pay is eaten up in much lower fuel economy (ie your l/100km goes up).
I've steered away from ethanol fuels for the Tiida after what some have said on here but the "Plus" fuel they sell at United down here is rated at 95 octane (so now I'm confused)
Post by: tji30 on May 11, 2009, 22:41:39
...the "Plus" fuel they sell at United down here is rated at 95 octane (so now I'm confused)
I've seen a few 95+E10 pumps around but not many. Most are 91+E10. I don't think it'll be too long before most 95 includes E10 unfortunately just as most 91 includes E10 now.
Stupid thing is that ethanol takes more energy to produce than what it puts out (I think it is 1.2 units of enegry in for every 1 unit out where petrol is .25 unit in for every 1 unit out). How is that sustainable?
Post by: Lakes on May 12, 2009, 10:18:35
Post by: snowcherry on May 12, 2009, 12:06:36
Seriously??? The XR6 would be one of those that would have noticably less power with E10 (would be harder to notice in the i30) & I think should absolutely be using at least 95 & preferably 98 (probably even states as much in the manual). E10 is less economical that 91 as well so the 2 cents/litre less you pay is eaten up in much lower fuel economy (ie your l/100km goes up).
i'm pretty sure it was E10 he uses. i'll have to find out next i talk to him (or look for his manual first as he's a stubborn one if you suggest change), i know he comments he's surprised at how economical the XR6 actually is.
Post by: Lakes on May 12, 2009, 19:53:13
...my father swears by it for his XR6..... :exclaim:
Seriously??? The XR6 would be one of those that would have noticably less power with E10 (would be harder to notice in the i30) & I think should absolutely be using at least 95 & preferably 98 (probably even states as much in the manual). E10 is less economical that 91 as well so the 2 cents/litre less you pay is eaten up in much lower fuel economy (ie your l/100km goes up).
I think the E10 is higher octain than 91, a number of people have told me there cars detonate useing 91 unlead, but they run ok on E10. THE xr6 is just a stock falcon 6cylinder they can run on 91 with no problem they use a lower ratio diff (3.45 to 1 ) just fuel economy will not be better on E10 as 10% of the fuel will need to run at 9afr the other 90% can run as lean as 13.7 afr. but most new EFI cars are on the rich side as they come so useing some E10 can improve performance as slightly leans it down.
Post by: 2i30s on May 13, 2009, 11:38:25
Post by: Dazzler on May 13, 2009, 13:13:13
Post by: 2i30s on May 13, 2009, 21:42:26
Post by: tji30 on May 13, 2009, 22:43:08
i asked my dealer about ethanol based fuel and said it will void your warany
I think it is anything more than 10% ethanol will void the warranty. Basically the manufacturers know how much damage ethanol does to the fuel system but they are being force by governments world-wide to allow 10%. Why would anything > 10% suddenly be so damaging to your engine that they void the warranty? Can you guarantee that what comes out of the pump definitely isn't > 10% at any given time? Remember, this is not simply a "we don't recommend > 10%" this is an absolute statement that > 10% will void your warranty!
A mate from South Africa used to race motor cycles. He said they're not allowed to use petrol for motor racing over there so use ethanol instead. When they're finished for the day they always run petrol through the system to flush out the ethanol before putting them away as it is just so corrosive.
Post by: snowcherry on May 17, 2009, 03:26:34
if you buy regular unleaded (91RON) it has E10 in it anyway? aren't they suuposed to say if ethanol is in it? i know my festiva is one of the few cars that are not allowed to use any ethanol so that is a little concerning.
on the flip side, if i decide to use 98RON in a new car, am i guaranteed it won't have ethanol in it? or is it a case of sticking to particular petrol stations only?
:question:
i checked with my father, yes he does use E10 and so far has been very happy with his economy. i mentioned the conversation here and he said he'd look into it, though i may have to remind him at some point.
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2009, 05:46:36
hang on i'm confused about something....sorry
if you buy regular unleaded (91RON) it has E10 in it anyway? aren't they suuposed to say if ethanol is in it? i know my festiva is one of the few cars that are not allowed to use any ethanol so that is a little concerning.
on the flip side, if i decide to use 98RON in a new car, am i guaranteed it won't have ethanol in it? or is it a case of sticking to particular petrol stations only?
:question:
i checked with my father, yes he does use E10 and so far has been very happy with his economy. i mentioned the conversation here and he said he'd look into it, though i may have to remind him at some point.
I don't think so... think they are only talking about the amount of ethanol in plus fuels and other ethanols posted fuels...
Post by: tji30 on May 17, 2009, 07:35:38
if you buy regular unleaded (91RON) it has E10 in it anyway? aren't they suuposed to say if ethanol is in it? i know my festiva is one of the few cars that are not allowed to use any ethanol so that is a little concerning.
If the pump is E10 (whether it be 91 (regular) or 95 (premium) RON), it must be specified as such on the pump. Most servos still sell regular (ie 91 RON) with & without E10 & E10 is usually around 2 c/l cheaper. I know BP no longer sell plain regular but not sure about others. Only seen the 95 + E10 at a couple of non-BP servos.
There is no question economy is lower on E10 fuel even with it being 2c/l cheaper. I suspect most cars could be tuned to make better use of E10 fuel but as far as I'm aware none are set up that way out of the factory. The only reason you can't run E10 in your Festiva is that the fuel system hasn't been "hardened" for it & the E10 fuel would destroy it within a couple of years.
Post by: Pip on May 17, 2009, 09:56:56
If you on the other hand think you are saving the planet - go for it. Although the arguments against that are strong also. Ethanol is made from what otherwise could be food. Carefully controlled, it could be made from by-products only but unless there is strong legislation (there may be, I don't know) those making it will opt for the best dollar return which just might be for fuel instead of food.
Post by: tji30 on May 17, 2009, 10:31:56
If you on the other hand think you are saving the planet - go for it. Although the arguments against that are strong also. Ethanol is made from what otherwise could be food. Carefully controlled, it could be made from by-products only but unless there is strong legislation (there may be, I don't know) those making it will opt for the best dollar return which just might be for fuel instead of food.
Don't forget that Ethanol also take MORE energy to produce that what it puts out (1.2 unit in for every 1 unit out). I fail to see how that is an economically sound & sustainable model?
Post by: snowcherry on May 17, 2009, 12:29:50
i'll pass the extra points on to my dad as well. how many 98RON fills would he need to start noticing a difference do you think?
also on the topic - i was reading the paper today that qld gov are going for legislation to make ethanol mandatory. i don't understand what this may mean, and worried then we'll have no non-ethanol fuel at all??
oh and pip - i agree with tji 30's views on the saving planet side of things. there's a doco about crude oil which is interesting in this regard
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2009, 13:15:13
i'll pass the extra points on to my dad as well. how many 98RON fills would he need to start noticing a difference do you think?
also on the topic - i was reading the paper today that qld gov are going for legislation to make ethanol mandatory. i don't understand what this may mean, and worried then we'll have no non-ethanol fuel at all??
Hi Snowcherry.. If you are on the low fuel light .. your first full tank of 98RON should make a noticeable difference...
Much the same as a full tank of better diesel makes a difference almost immediately in my Crdi...
When the Governments try to bring these things in it often takes 12 months until it gets ratified then say a 12 month phasing in period with exceptions for incompatible vehicles etc...
They couldn't force people to use it in cars that would be harmed in any way...
Post by: Pip on May 17, 2009, 14:17:51
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...how many 98RON fills would he need to start noticing a difference do you think?I'm not sure what you are asking exactly but I would like to make the point that as far as octain (RON - Research Octain Rating) ratings go there is not a lot to be gained by using a fuel with a higher octain than the motor can use. The objective is to stop petrol motors acting like diesel motors and self-igniting the charge.
The higher the octain the more tolerant it is to self-ignition ("pinging" - a tinkly rattling noise). Petrol motors rely on the spark timing to initiate the burn but relatively high compression engines (most modern petrol motors) and a low octain fuel is pretty much the description for a diesel. An uncontrolled early detonation (pinging) is outside the petrol engine design objective and can damage an engine if not corrected - although mild pinging under heavy load seemed to be fairly normal in the old days and nothing much seemed to come of it. In fact, I always timed the spark by setting it to a point where it would just begin to ping under a load condition just beyond where I would normally change gear anyway. Don't work no more but... 'cos of the ECU.
Those with very long memories will remember that cars once had the "spark timing" as a driver control near to the steering wheel hub, right beside the horn, so that it could be adjusted dynamically by the driver's "ECU" just as we do now except it's the car manufacturers "nut" that does it. :lol: :lol: :wink: Yeah, I know that in the interim it was dynamically adjusted by a centrifical mechanism... but it's nice to think that before that, as now, it had some intelligence behind it. :P
Getting back to my point, modern engines (read ECU) can handle a lower RON than optimum by fiddling with the spark timing... in these cases the engine smarts can cover up a fuel that's less than optimum. Take the manufacturer's advice here... but when say, 91RON or 95RON are both allowed you can guess that 95 is probably the better option with 91 being the "tolerated" octain. Using 98 in this example will waste your money because its extra ability to resist pinging will never be called upon.
Using a lower cost "tolerated" RON will probably be a break even cost (when you take into account that it will travel less distance per unit volume) so you might as well use the higher recommended RON.
After having written this and re-reading your question I assume the question is how long (how many fills) one would take to notice a difference when changing to a different RON.
Good question: :rolleyes: I guess if you refill on an empty tank, then virtually straight away.
Post by: tji30 on May 18, 2009, 02:54:26
Would certainly suck for the use of E10 to be mandated as there are plenty of older vehicles on which it absolutely should not be used. Anecdotally there are many modern cars on which it shouldn't be used either. I've talked to plenty of RACQ roadside assist guys who have seen some horribly messed up components of fuel systems in cars < 2 years old which could only be attributed to E10. That is what turned me off it to start with.
Only reason I can see to mandate E10 in Qld would be to keep the Sugar Cane farmers afloat as I believe we mostly use sugar cane here.
Post by: MRH130 on May 18, 2009, 03:25:31
Using petrol blended with up to 10% ethanol will not void your warranty but you're taking an unnecessary risk by using it. If you have a fuel system problem and they analyze the fuel and find more than 10% then no that won't be covered by warranty and it'll be up to you to chase the fuel distributor for the repair costs. And good luck with that. ;o)
Hyundai tunes it's engines to give their best performance/economy on 95 so if it is available I use that. If not I get 98.
Changing to better fuel will usually bring a swift improvement, but I find it can take a tank or two to get the full benefits. The XR6 (unless it's a turbo) will not bring as much improvement as an i30 because the old 4 litre runs a pretty low (relatively) compression ratio and cannot take as much advantage of the better fuel. It will still give better performance and economy on the good stuff, it's well worth it. And E10 will still cause all the other dramas we've all been talking about, sooner or later.
As I understand it (and I work in legislative drafting) the proposal to mandate minimum ethanol content will refer only to regular unleaded, so premium fuels will not be affected. I can't imagine they'll ever make people put E10 in their Ferraris... :wink:
On another topic, keep an eye out for my new fuel consumption thread tonight and join my petrolconsumption challenge! we don't need no diesel! :mrgreen:
Post by: tji30 on May 18, 2009, 04:43:47
...we don't need no diesel!
Hell no. Petrol rulz. And in White too!
Post by: MRH130 on May 18, 2009, 10:20:48
Hell no. Petrol rulz. And in White too!
Yeah, white SRs unite! :wink:
Post by: snowcherry on June 07, 2009, 03:54:08
After having written this and re-reading your question I assume the question is how long (how many fills) one would take to notice a difference when changing to a different RON.
Good question: :rolleyes: I guess if you refill on an empty tank, then virtually straight away.
cheers that was what i meant. :)
apologies for not replying sooner, i keep re-reading this page then start thinking about stuff and never replying
anyway - just an update re my dads car...he put some 98RON in this week, i guess he must have taken my comments on board. he put it in on a low tank and he'll use a whole tank in a week. so next week or so i should get a reply about how it went. he grumbled about the extra cost so i do hope he sees a great improvement.
and thanks guys for the reasurance on the legislation about mandatory E10 as well.
Post by: Lakes on June 07, 2009, 07:34:36
Ethanol actually has a higher octane rating than petrol, so it's not hard to make E10 with a higher octane. However, there are other issues in play in the E10 debate and the higher octane doesn't offset any of the other issues. E10 95+ will help stop the motor pinging under load compared to E10 91 octane but it still has all the corrosion and other issues so even in 95 (as offered by Liberty I think) it's just not worth it IMHO.
Using petrol blended with up to 10% ethanol will not void your warranty but you're taking an unnecessary risk by using it. If you have a fuel system problem and they analyze the fuel and find more than 10% then no that won't be covered by warranty and it'll be up to you to chase the fuel distributor for the repair costs. And good luck with that. ;o)
Hyundai tunes it's engines to give their best performance/economy on 95 so if it is available I use that. If not I get 98.
Changing to better fuel will usually bring a swift improvement, but I find it can take a tank or two to get the full benefits. The XR6 (unless it's a turbo) will not bring as much improvement as an i30 because the old 4 litre runs a pretty low (relatively) compression ratio and cannot take as much advantage of the better fuel. It will still give better performance and economy on the good stuff, it's well worth it. And E10 will still cause all the other dramas we've all been talking about, sooner or later.
As I understand it (and I work in legislative drafting) the proposal to mandate minimum ethanol content will refer only to regular unleaded, so premium fuels will not be affected. I can't imagine they'll ever make people put E10 in their Ferraris... :wink:
On another topic, keep an eye out for my new fuel consumption thread tonight and join my petrolconsumption challenge! we don't need no diesel! :mrgreen:
LOL give me Nitro!
Post by: Lakes on June 07, 2009, 07:39:00
After having written this and re-reading your question I assume the question is how long (how many fills) one would take to notice a difference when changing to a different RON.
Good question: :rolleyes: I guess if you refill on an empty tank, then virtually straight away.
cheers that was what i meant. :)
apologies for not replying sooner, i keep re-reading this page then start thinking about stuff and never replying
anyway - just an update re my dads car...he put some 98RON in this week, i guess he must have taken my comments on board. he put it in on a low tank and he'll use a whole tank in a week. so next week or so i should get a reply about how it went. he grumbled about the extra cost so i do hope he sees a great improvement.
and thanks guys for the reasurance on the legislation about mandatory E10 as well.
Snowcherry, tell your Dad to give it two full tanks of BP Ultimate 98 then see how his car runs. it cleans the injectors cleans the chamber and cleans the spark plugs. i have checked this out myself. i have a falcon V8 too thats all i ever use in it.
Post by: snowcherry on June 07, 2009, 08:38:09
Post by: MRH130 on June 08, 2009, 00:31:32
Snowcherry, tell your Dad to give it two full tanks of BP Ultimate 98 then see how his car runs. it cleans the injectors cleans the chamber and cleans the spark plugs. i have checked this out myself. i have a falcon V8 too thats all i ever use in it.
Lakes is exactly right snowcherry, the full benefit won't be felt straight away, but it should be noticeable pretty quickly.
The other thing I hear all the time when you encourage people to try better fuel is that they say the economy actually gets worse.
From my observation it's often because they are trying out the performance to see if the car goes harder on better fuel.
Naturally enough, giving the car a load of welly that it doesn't normally get will cause an increase in consumption... So make sure Dad gives it a fair go compared to how he normally drives it! :wink:
Post by: Lakes on June 08, 2009, 02:57:37
Post by: snowcherry on June 08, 2009, 04:54:25
Post by: Merlot on June 13, 2009, 00:20:02
Post by: snowcherry on June 19, 2009, 01:30:03
Post by: Lakes on June 19, 2009, 11:09:01
cheers
Post by: snowcherry on July 21, 2009, 06:51:00
Post by: MRH130 on July 23, 2009, 23:17:17
"It doesn't matter what I say, what I do or what I think - you can lead a horse to water, you can't make him drink."
In all seriousness though, whatever works for him! :D
Post by: Lakes on August 07, 2009, 23:27:04
i have not used E10 but some brands of E10 have higher octain rateing than normal standard fuel. but hard to see how 10% ethanole that normaly runs at 9afr and 90% normal that runs at about 13afr can get better economy, but there you go.
with my V8 ute iu was averaging 60,000k's per year, i used both standard and 98, the motor ran much nicer on 98, but i got cheap at one stage and just ran on standard for a while, and as i was doing a lot of k's and a lot of them in sydney CBD with idleing a lot, the standard fuel carboned up and a sensor that sets idle speed got carboned up so much the motor would not idle would cut out, dealer fixed it by cleaning sensor, then i just ran on 98 only and did a lot of k's never happened again, then after 170,000k i changed the spark plugs, they use a plug in the three valve V8 like no other i have seen, it is very long it goes into the chamber a long way, a lot of people had posted online they had problems, well i removed the plugs useing a few old trick's, and found no carbon on the plugs, i put anti sieze lubricant on the new plugs threads got them back in and it's now done 220,000k rining sweet, i saw a guy tell people online not to let this motor go further than 80,000k before changing plugs as the plug carbon up and when you remove it it strips the thread out of the heads, he showed a pic of a well carboned up plug, but mine had done 170,000 on 98 no carbon. this guy took his to dealer and they stripped his threads out and had to lift one of his heads to have threads repaired. i personaly think they striped the thread because threads were not lubed from factory and were stick to the alloy. but looking at his plugs with 90,0000 and looking at mine with 170,000 mine were much cleaner. so what you can't see matters, thats if you are planing on keeping the car a long time, 98 looks after your motor and will probably keep injectors and sensors clean. not sure about the E10 but the standard fuel burns dirty.
cheers
Post by: snowcherry on August 09, 2009, 00:31:50
i'm surprised he tried it all on my suggestion, i think for him to try the 98 again he would probably need to be shown stuff by his mechanic etc. problem really is that he's lost interest in his car now, it got damaged and the repairer stuffed it up somewhat and its piling on the k's as he has to travel a lot, and now he just doesn't care anymore and says he'll just use it as his workhorse. shame as i know he was very chuffed with it originally :(
i am inclined from evreything i've read to use 98 in the new car when i get one :)
Post by: chanraymond on August 19, 2009, 10:16:27
I filled it up with 91 Unleaded from Caltex this time round. And maybe I'll try to drive "like a granny" for this tank and see how much I can squeeze out of it :D
Post by: Dazzler on August 19, 2009, 11:30:03
That's an average of 10.58/L (mine's an SX, no trip computer) on BP's Ultimate. Hmm..
You should get better than that when she is run in.. I would have thought under 9.0 for combined city & highway for a manual 2.0ltr
Post by: Duckman on August 19, 2009, 21:35:43
Just refuelled with 461kms and the fuel light was on. Managed to get 43L before it clicked, so I'd have about 10 more litres, so I should be able to run around 100km more. That's an average of 10.58/L (mine's an SX, no trip computer) on BP's Ultimate. Hmm..
I filled it up with 91 Unleaded from Caltex this time round. And maybe I'll try to drive "like a granny" for this tank and see how much I can squeeze out of it :D
I can push nearly 750km from my petrol. How many kms have you done all up now? I'm at 18,500km and fuel consumption keeps on dropping!
Post by: Duckman on August 21, 2009, 08:30:38
Awesome accuracy!! :lol:
Post by: Dazzler on August 22, 2009, 12:49:24
Post by: sweetbix on September 09, 2009, 11:38:15
I've been using Caltex Vortex 98.
Post by: Duckman on September 12, 2009, 07:36:26
:D Now that's what I call economy (it reads 2.0L/100km!)
Post by: sweetbix on September 12, 2009, 08:09:18
Post by: Duckman on September 12, 2009, 08:37:23
It actually started at 0.3L/100km!! But missed the photo :(
Post by: snowcherry on September 22, 2009, 13:35:48
in one week my economy has gone from 11.4? (11.something) to 9.4
and i've used half a tank on 270 k's (petrol auto)
and she's done now 300 k's total!
Post by: 2i30s on September 22, 2009, 13:42:25
Post by: snowcherry on September 23, 2009, 10:50:40
Post by: Blue on September 23, 2009, 11:20:07
(couldn't help myself :) )
/me waits for the flames !
Post by: snowcherry on September 23, 2009, 13:04:14
800k's on a tank/ pffft EASY, wouldn't even use fourth or fifth gears... oh, oops, sorry, wrong thread !!!!
(couldn't help myself :) )
/me waits for the flames !
hah!
well i'd give you my icy shoulder except the heatwave started to melt it and the dust storm blew the rest of it away
Post by: snowcherry on October 02, 2009, 02:06:37
in one week my economy has gone from 11.4? (11.something) to 9.4
and i've used half a tank on 270 k's (petrol auto)
economy 8.3
half tank 280k's
mmmmm that seems like a crappy improvement somehow :neutral:
Post by: 2i30s on October 02, 2009, 05:30:07
Post by: sweetbix on October 02, 2009, 09:48:00
Post by: snowcherry on October 02, 2009, 12:41:32
thanks guys :)
Post by: Lakes on October 03, 2009, 21:26:34
i have to go back through this thread and i have to read the part in my manual about setting the trip meter etc........but just in case i forget later
in one week my economy has gone from 11.4? (11.something) to 9.4
and i've used half a tank on 270 k's (petrol auto)
and she's done now 300 k's total!
Hey Snowcherry, if you can fill your tank to the very top, you get more k's from the tank full, that's why some quote more miles on one tank of fuel than others.
only problem doing this with petrol is fuel expands, like underground its cooler then goes into your tank, get's warmer and expands, if your on a trip and going to do say 200k or more that day, it's ok as you will use some of the fuel so no worries, but if your only doing short trips not good to fill right to the top. but my experience is. if you fill to the very top you can go a few hundred k's before the gauge moves off full. with the oiler diesels fuel does not expand as much so can fill right up no worries i go 300k before the gauge even moves off full, i did my 1,3?? tank full when the car was still low k's i think i averaged about 4.4 per 100, i seem to be able to get good economy easier now. but for me i always seem to get better economy new that other way around, as i drive them easy new then, drive them hard as they get older.
cheers
Post by: 2i30s on October 03, 2009, 22:44:00
Post by: snowcherry on October 04, 2009, 04:35:20
Hey Snowcherry, if you can fill your tank to the very top, you get more k's from the tank full, that's why some quote more miles on one tank of fuel than others.
only problem doing this with petrol is fuel expands, like underground its cooler then goes into your tank, get's warmer and expands, if your on a trip and going to do say 200k or more that day, it's ok as you will use some of the fuel so no worries, but if your only doing short trips not good to fill right to the top. but
no i didn't get this
the day i got the car they filled it for me, and that first 270 k's on half a tank was from then.
my first "official" fill was when i was showing about 70 k's left in the tank on my trip thingy. as a round trip for me is about that and i didn't want to risk it, i filled up then. i filled as much as could, probably clicked off about 4 times. i can't recall exactly how much went in but over 40 and under 50 litres from memory. i still only got 280 k's out of half tank though.
edit: i guess you're saying i'm not going to see what it can give me until i can do a very long trip in one go?
Post by: karhung on October 04, 2009, 15:00:51
no i didn't get this
the day i got the car they filled it for me, and that first 270 k's on half a tank was from then.
my first "official" fill was when i was showing about 70 k's left in the tank on my trip thingy. as a round trip for me is about that and i didn't want to risk it, i filled up then. i filled as much as could, probably clicked off about 4 times. i can't recall exactly how much went in but over 40 and under 50 litres from memory. i still only got 280 k's out of half tank though.
edit: i guess you're saying i'm not going to see what it can give me until i can do a very long trip in one go?
mmm. I get about 350-400km for the first half and i usually do then extra 15-20km after the fuel light is on. My max on one tank is about 650km.
I also found that (on my) it takes a lot of clicks before it get full(starts around 40L). And seems that our tank is bigger then 53L because i fill up once and it reach to 55L and it still wasnt flowing out(my gf fill up).
Post by: snowcherry on October 04, 2009, 15:38:12
mmm. I get about 350-400km for the first half and i usually do then extra 15-20km after the fuel light is on. My max on one tank is about 650km.
I also found that (on my) it takes a lot of clicks before it get full(starts around 40L). And seems that our tank is bigger then 53L because i fill up once and it reach to 55L and it still wasnt flowing out(my gf fill up).
interesting thats more the region i was expecting initially. :neutral: 700 average is what i would love to have. 800 on long trips. but i'm barely scraping 600 though i'm still only on 2nd tank :wink: :lol:
is there a 'safe' way to click off the bowser continually without having a backlash of petrol come out? bit annoying if i have to do it like that though.
Post by: karhung on October 04, 2009, 16:01:14
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is there a 'safe' way to click off the bowser continually without having a backlash of petrol come out? bit annoying if i have to do it like that though.
:lol: :lol: Nope. Not that im aware of!!!
And im not to sure about the whole "improvement once you've done more k,s" because ive done 9900km and havn't seen any improvement. (got her in aug)
Post by: snowcherry on October 04, 2009, 16:30:08
there's definantly improvement to be made there
Post by: snowcherry on October 06, 2009, 11:19:00
is bigger then 53L because i fill up once and it reach to 55L and it still wasnt flowing out(my gf fill up).
well filled up today and took more notice, and it started clicking at 42L. kept going until 50L this time while last time i pretty much stopped once it started clicking so might have been about 44/45?. i have a hunch when it was filled for me originally the same thing may have happened. so possibly could have gone a bit more still as my petrol light had been on for about 50k's; but hopefully this tank will give more than the last two :mrgreen:
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on a side note i went back to Caltex and guess what? the premium i bought last time wasn't premium - it was 95! :eek:
god i am SO mentally blonde at times :-[
so i've had whatever was in there originally (probably 91) topped up with 98, then 95, now finally full tank of Shell 98.......*sigh*
Post by: karhung on October 06, 2009, 14:42:25
is bigger then 53L because i fill up once and it reach to 55L and it still wasnt flowing out(my gf fill up).
well filled up today and took more notice, and it started clicking at 42L. kept going until 50L this time while last time i pretty much stopped once it started clicking so might have been about 44/45?. i have a hunch when it was filled for me originally the same thing may have happened. so possibly could have gone a bit more still as my petrol light had been on for about 50k's; but hopefully this tank will give more than the last two :mrgreen:
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on a side note i went back to Caltex and guess what? the premium i bought last time wasn't premium - it was 95! :eek:
god i am SO mentally blonde at times :-[
so i've had whatever was in there originally (probably 91) topped up with 98, then 95, now finally full tank of Shell 98.......*sigh*
Well snowcherry keep us up to date on how well this tank will go!!!
Post by: Blue on October 06, 2009, 20:36:25
I am not sure of the conditions you drive around in, but working as an admin assistant, I would assume there is some urban driving involved.
The Auto Petrol i30 hatch is rated at 10.3 lphk on the Aussie web site (and that's THEIR figures) in urban conditions (with the aircon off I would guess).
Using that as WORST case scenario, you couldn't get much more than about 500Ks from a full tank.
The combined (more likely real world) figures they quote are 7.6 lphk.
Using that figure, you would expect just under 700 (ish)....
Reset the trip meter's fuel consumption average next time you fill it, and tell us what the average usage is when it gets close to empty. Then we can see the sort of returns to expect. It's all about the conditions.
My daughters manual SX is used in and around a country town, she is getting about 8 lphk on average.
Post by: snowcherry on October 06, 2009, 21:34:03
i set my trip meter and economy meter yesterday actually on the fill. :)
Post by: sweetbix on October 07, 2009, 08:17:19
The Auto Petrol i30 hatch is rated at 10.3 lphk on the Aussie web site (and that's THEIR figures) in urban conditions (with the aircon off I would guess).
Using that as WORST case scenario, you couldn't get much more than about 500Ks from a full tank.
I guess I'm not doing too bad since I mostly drive in urban conditions...with & without the aircon on.
Post by: dacho on October 07, 2009, 11:18:30
I can't get 500 km with 1 tank (about 53 liters). My averege is about 480 km with 53 lit.
Post by: snowcherry on October 07, 2009, 12:28:40
The combined (more likely real world) figures they quote are 7.6 lphk.
Using that figure, you would expect just under 700 (ish)....
that is the auto figure for combined highway/urban? that seems optimistic i think
unless my car drops its economy as it settles in i just can't see how they got that on an auto petrol. on a manual petrol sure they would, but not an auto petrol. i'm just holding the 8.3 now, i think once i do a road trip i can get that down lower but it would not be a consistant ongoing average. anyway that 'should' land me in say 650 territory? which is still about 70 more than last two tanks.
interesting!
I read your posts and I can't belive :eek: 600, 700, 800 km with 1 tank of gas :eek: :eek: :eek:
I can't get 500 km with 1 tank (about 53 liters). My averege is about 480 km with 53 lit.
hi dacho! oh i feel terrible, complaining about not getting 700 :-[
do you drive a lot in the city and is your car an auto?
as it does seem average range for city only driving
Post by: dacho on October 08, 2009, 12:45:57
It is manual transmition with aircondition always on :wink: so to me it is normal consumption of 11 lit /100 km. :D
Post by: snowcherry on October 10, 2009, 04:07:24
My driving is all in the city, and mostly in rushour :'(
It is manual transmition with aircondition always on :wink: so to me it is normal consumption of 11 lit /100 km. :D
cheers
sounds like you're doing good then :D
Post by: Blue on October 10, 2009, 04:22:21
The combined (more likely real world) figures they quote are 7.6 lphk.that is the auto figure for combined highway/urban? that seems optimistic i think
Using that figure, you would expect just under 700 (ish)....
Yup, very optimistic I think.
My daughter doesn't get that in her manual !
Post by: Duckman on October 11, 2009, 01:15:02
Post by: sweetbix on October 11, 2009, 03:20:53
Post by: Blue on October 11, 2009, 03:34:00
That's really good Duckman! I'm doing 9.6L/100km at the moment... bumper to bumper traffic just about everyday... :neutral: I might need to go on a road trip soon.. :)
You have to happy with that in traffic !!!
Post by: snowcherry on October 11, 2009, 03:50:31
Still managing 6.9L/100km. Mostly highway driving, however it's mostly within peak periods!
wow! that's impressive
i think i'd do a dance if i got to the 7.6 (well not in the car) let alone 6.9
Post by: Duckman on October 11, 2009, 04:13:03
Still managing 6.9L/100km. Mostly highway driving, however it's mostly within peak periods!
wow! that's impressive
i think i'd do a dance if i got to the 7.6 (well not in the car) let alone 6.9
What's even more surprising is that if I drive EXTRA granny-like, I can manage about 6.2L/100km. But driving at 110-120km/h at 3000rpm kills it!
Post by: snowcherry on October 15, 2009, 03:07:38
What's even more surprising is that if I drive EXTRA granny-like, I can manage about 6.2L/100km. But driving at 110-120km/h at 3000rpm kills it!
show off :wink:
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last half tank was an improvement
305 kms.
this was making sure i had filled the tank.
filled up again yesterday having used about 580kms total but hadn't hit the red light yet so not bad!
so it appears i can get a guaranteed 600kms from a tank which gives me a sigh of a relief (unless i'm all urban for some reason). would still prefer 700 but it doesn't look like i'm going to get this, maybe on a road trip but not my local driving.
all good :D
Post by: 2i30s on October 15, 2009, 07:08:45
I read your posts and I can't belive :eek: 600, 700, 800 km with 1 tank of gas :eek: :eek: :eek:most of us use premium,that goes further than normal ulp. :razz:
I can't get 500 km with 1 tank (about 53 liters). My averege is about 480 km with 53 lit.
Post by: sweetbix on October 15, 2009, 08:18:37
That's not bad Snowcherry, I'm on 9.8.. I wish I was a granny driver. :lol:
I've tried to granny it a little bit (or at least sticking to the speed limit & not flooring it at lights) - I'm now doing 8.4L/100km... :)
Post by: snowcherry on October 15, 2009, 10:32:32
but that means i should be doing better :lol: :wink:
actually i did get the car down to 7.8 today though its back to 8.0 now! i really grannied it last two days as well :lol:
Post by: dacho on October 15, 2009, 11:52:15
I read your posts and I can't belive :eek: 600, 700, 800 km with 1 tank of gas :eek: :eek: :eek:most of us use premium,that goes further than normal ulp. :razz:
I can't get 500 km with 1 tank (about 53 liters). My averege is about 480 km with 53 lit.
Well, I don't know about yours premium gasoline, but I use from the first day 100 octane gasoline :cool:
We have 95, 98 and 100 octane gasoline. Our 95 is like you have 200kg extra in the car :D
Post by: Duckman on October 16, 2009, 06:24:31
Post by: 2i30s on October 16, 2009, 09:25:37
ours is 91,95 or 98 octane.I read your posts and I can't belive :eek: 600, 700, 800 km with 1 tank of gas :eek: :eek: :eek:most of us use premium,that goes further than normal ulp. :razz:
I can't get 500 km with 1 tank (about 53 liters). My averege is about 480 km with 53 lit.
Well, I don't know about yours premium gasoline, but I use from the first day 100 octane gasoline :cool:
We have 95, 98 and 100 octane gasoline. Our 95 is like you have 200kg extra in the car :D
Post by: snowcherry on October 16, 2009, 14:17:42
Oooh! I got 5.9L/100km over the last fill :D :D :D :D :D :D
woooo go duckman!
may i ask what your driving conditions are? flat, hills, use cruise or not, average speeds etc etc?
yeah i'm nosey :lol:
Post by: 2i30s on October 16, 2009, 21:49:47
me too :lol:Oooh! I got 5.9L/100km over the last fill :D :D :D :D :D :D
woooo go duckman!
may i ask what your driving conditions are? flat, hills, use cruise or not, average speeds etc etc?
yeah i'm nosey :lol:
Post by: sweetbix on October 17, 2009, 05:56:53
Post by: snowcherry on October 17, 2009, 08:18:04
the 10kms makes a huge difference hey? if i tried driving 90k's round here on the highway i'd probably be drawn and quartered (well gestured very rudely at) :lol:
Post by: sweetbix on October 17, 2009, 09:08:22
Post by: Duckman on October 19, 2009, 08:18:23
Oooh! I got 5.9L/100km over the last fill :D :D :D :D :D :D
woooo go duckman!
may i ask what your driving conditions are? flat, hills, use cruise or not, average speeds etc etc?
yeah i'm nosey :lol:
Ok, well it's mostly motorways in the morning (M5 into Sydney). However there is heavy traffic early in the morning, average speed about 40-50km/h. Flat roads, no cruise.
On the way home I travel the M4 and M7, flat mostly, the M7 has a few slight hills. Average speeds about 90km/h until close to home, then it's a crawl. Cruise some days depending on traffic.
Post by: snowcherry on October 19, 2009, 11:49:02
that will do better than the auto
but its still very impressive :mrgreen:
i reset my trip thingy again today and it dropped to 7.0 by the time i got home!
thing is it seems i reset it and it does drop a lot but then it goes up again, next time i reset it it will drop again but more than it did previously then start to rise again. its like alice in wonderland! i'll probably be in high 7's again tomorrow. :neutral:
Post by: Duckman on October 20, 2009, 05:41:28
I reset at 25,000km and it's reading 6.7L/100km, after about 1500km.
Post by: snowcherry on October 21, 2009, 00:57:52
well my prediction was correct and my 7.0 jumped straight to 8.0 within barely 1km of leaving home yesterday. but get this, i was running a wee bit late for work, was a wee bit cranky about the ecenomy gauge and just thought stuff it i'm not babying you anymore! so yes after a return trip to work and back over hill over dale not driving as well as one should..ahem...it was still 8.0! :rolleyes:
Post by: Duckman on October 21, 2009, 06:11:44
I highly suggested monitoring your consumption yourself. I had an iPhone application (RoadTrip) and it once said my lowest consumption was 5.6L/100km, over a 700km tank full of petrol. You CAN fudge the results by filling up to almost overflow point, then once you need fuel again, fill it unti lit clicks once or twice, then record results... No I *didn't* do this though :D
Post by: snowcherry on October 26, 2009, 21:45:43
anyway aside from the head scratching there, i am quite please to say i have sailed past 600 km's for this tank.
i'm sitting on about 630 k's, fuel light came on about 10 k's ago and says i have about 60 k's left.
so pushing 700 for this tank. with a mix of driving and not much babying at all. i'm really pleased with that
:mrgreen:
Post by: Shambles on October 26, 2009, 21:52:20
... not much babying at all...
Hey! What you get up to in your motor is your own business (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GIFS/giggle.gif) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GIFS/whistling.gif)
Post by: Hemmi on November 13, 2009, 19:27:13
The "distance to empty" meter started blinking in about 680km, anyone know how much is left when it stars blinking?
I think it's about 50km.
I'm happy with the result, I did not drive economically, usually reeving high and all city driving.
Post by: 2i30s on November 13, 2009, 20:39:40
Post by: Hemmi on November 13, 2009, 22:53:05
is 530kms on 1/3 of a tank good :question: we took both cars from Hampton park to sheperton and back in 38deg/c temp with aircon on and 4 people in each car at 110kmh,I'm happy. :mrgreen:
If the rest of the thirds would be the same, yes, but they are not :mrgreen:
If you know what I mean :wink:
Post by: 2i30s on November 14, 2009, 00:43:28
Post by: eye30 on November 14, 2009, 12:58:21
yes unfortunately,the top half holds more than the bottom half. :rolleyes:
So logic would say:
If half full there is less than if half empty :exclaim:
Post by: 2i30s on November 14, 2009, 13:32:54
Post by: snowcherry on November 21, 2009, 07:32:00
i worked it out manually today and it was 9.0 over last tank
the car says 8.6 currently
checked tyres today and the fronts a little low on 34 (backs 36)
i do my 800km drive tomorrow so have pumped up tyres and have fresh tank
will reset meter and see how i go
i'm no hoon - and highway driveway with some hills and rare urban, i just don't think i should be getting that. still under 4000k's. engine also revving wee bit high which maybe using some fuel up. ??
i know it could all be a lot worse and it should get better in time, but i had the 7.6 in the back of my head when buying, so still a feel bit grumbly about this.
Post by: i30Dave on November 22, 2009, 11:26:46
and keeping revs to under 2500. The factory stated ltrs/100km are bullshit.
You can only achieve these by driving like a old person. So if you can get around
8ltrs/100km from your car your doing well.
Post by: sweetbix on November 23, 2009, 07:15:12
Post by: Duckman on November 23, 2009, 07:40:27
Post by: SergeyZdravkov on November 25, 2009, 20:56:38
In city conditions (short trips, cold engine) i've got between 8.0 - 10.5/100 km depending on how cold it is. 1.4 L engine "loves" temps over 18C.
On long trips (country roads mostly) I've got 6.2 - 6.8/100 km. normal driving - 6.2/100; more aggressive driving - 6.8-7.2/100
average - 7.7/100
Post by: bez10y on November 25, 2009, 21:06:45
Post by: highandnotdry on December 07, 2009, 20:33:17
Post by: snowcherry on December 14, 2009, 12:18:53
With my SR (auto) the best i've got is 7.2 This was from driving so smoothly (boring)
and keeping revs to under 2500. The factory stated ltrs/100km are bullshit.
You can only achieve these by driving like a old person. So if you can get around
8ltrs/100km from your car your doing well.
thanks for the input dave
and dijana sad to see you've dropped back to
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well i had my brissy run.
reset the trip and eco thingy. and did not budge under 8.0 for most of it. i was quite gropable as i was having a beautiful drive and it should have been dropping overall. then after coming out of a area where you jump from a slow 90 to a fast 110 i expected then that the economy would go up again but it didn't. so out of curiousity i reset it again, and it dropped, it really dropped!it was like as i've previously believed it has done, got stuck. so my 8,s went all the way down to 6,s. well knock me over with a feather. by the time i got into brissy i was low 7's. i spiked at 10 while city driving but averaged around 8-9. finally coming home trip averaged 7.5 just pushing up to 7.6 as i neared home....finally the magic 7.6.
of course since i've been home i'm weirdly back into 8,s again. damn!
tanks - best tank i think i might have been pushing the 800. if it hadn't been for the city driving i might have got past that i think.
Post by: Duckman on December 14, 2009, 19:39:45
Make sure if you see a black i30, you give me a wave!!
Post by: mvasseur on December 15, 2009, 02:44:48
At 725km, the light came on and the estimated range fell under 50k. It ran dry at 795km, mostly highways and about 60 minutes of stop-and-go traffic in Montreal. Consumption: 6.7l/100km. I'm pretty sure I can reach 850km if there is no traffic.
ALso, when I filled it then, it toook more than 53L to fill up, something like 57L. What's the top quantity your cars took when really thirsty?
Michael
Post by: sweetbix on December 15, 2009, 06:57:04
and dijana sad to see you've dropped back toI did get up to 10.4 last week... :-[
Post by: snowcherry on December 19, 2009, 01:47:51
ALso, when I filled it then, it toook more than 53L to fill up, something like 57L. What's the top quantity your cars took when really thirsty?
yes i've hit 57.4 i think at the most...and i've got pretty near the 57 a couple other times to. its timely getting there, bowser clicks off a lot in the meantime. :rolleyes:
Post by: Duckman on December 24, 2009, 06:51:34
Post by: IMCRZY on January 05, 2010, 22:08:59
Climate control is on 100% of the time aswell....
The only weird thing is that the L/100kms says 9.1
I dunno lol i know these things aint always right
Post by: Dazzler on January 06, 2010, 08:21:57
Post by: Duckman on January 06, 2010, 08:28:08
The only weird thing is that the L/100kms says 9.1
I dunno lol i know these things aint always right
True, but it's accurate in a certain way seeing it measures the litres of fuel consumed over the kilometres travelled from reset. It's (unfortunately) not a current consumption rate of your specific consumption as you drive... Now that'd be a nice feature.
Post by: IMCRZY on January 06, 2010, 08:51:08
What mileage was on her when you picked her up IMCRAZY?
12 kms and had 3/4 tank...
I took it from the dealer and filled it
and reset all the trip, L/kms and so on
Only had it for 13 days lol
Post by: IMCRZY on January 06, 2010, 08:55:12
True, but it's accurate in a certain way seeing it measures the litres of fuel consumed over the kilometres travelled from reset. It's (unfortunately) not a current consumption rate of your specific consumption as you drive... Now that'd be a nice feature.
Had that feature with my Subaru and when i was in the mood it lead me to drive ultra conservative lol
Post by: Duckman on January 06, 2010, 19:44:17
True, but it's accurate in a certain way seeing it measures the litres of fuel consumed over the kilometres travelled from reset. It's (unfortunately) not a current consumption rate of your specific consumption as you drive... Now that'd be a nice feature.
Had that feature with my Subaru and when i was in the mood it lead me to drive ultra conservative lol
Yeah, I wish the i30 had it. It'd make me drive extra-nanna like for a while!
Post by: babis_xo on February 19, 2010, 00:20:01
5.000 kms
unleaded 95
9.5 - 10 lt/100km (heavy traffic only, Athens)
6.8 - 7.5 lt/100km (120-140km/h*, highway)
(*) ..... :rolleyes:
All measurements by me, not the trip computer
And i don't see much difference, no matter how i drive (aggressively or not)
Post by: KaeBee on March 01, 2010, 01:49:21
Post by: babis_xo on March 01, 2010, 09:44:06
Post by: Lorian on March 01, 2010, 11:25:41
True, but it's accurate in a certain way seeing it measures the litres of fuel consumed over the kilometres travelled from reset. It's (unfortunately) not a current consumption rate of your specific consumption as you drive... Now that'd be a nice feature.
That's what I bought a Scangauge for. Seems to work pretty good. The only think is there is a setting you have to change to make the instantaneous consumption update once per second rather than once every two. At £100 it will of course probably never pay for itself, but heh.
Post by: 2i30s on March 01, 2010, 11:38:55
Post by: snowcherry on March 06, 2010, 00:39:12
filled back up this week and it went back down to 8.4 within a day.
it was meant to be a 98 premium
:rolleyes:
Post by: joker_mkd on March 07, 2010, 21:07:04
Currently the average is 8.7 L/100km (combination of city/open road, mostly flat)... but I'm driving it less aggressive now on my second fuel tank, I guess that consumption will go even lower.
Post by: joker_mkd on March 10, 2010, 09:08:51
I just hit 400 km and my average consumption is 7.4 l/100km (combination of open road, city, I would say 50/50% of both)
Post by: Duckman on March 12, 2010, 06:32:29
Post by: Dazzler on March 12, 2010, 09:37:33
Mine hasn't moved off 7.1L/100km for a few solid months now. That's good :D
:eek: That is excellent for a 2.0 petrol...
Post by: Duckman on March 13, 2010, 01:08:07
Mine hasn't moved off 7.1L/100km for a few solid months now. That's good :D
:eek: That is excellent for a 2.0 petrol...
Yeah. I did start driving like a nanna last year, making sure my tyres are inflated to 38psi, ensuring I cruise at lower RPMs, you know, the usual fuel consumption lowering things :wink:
Post by: buddyforu on March 19, 2010, 12:22:53
Post by: Dazzler on March 19, 2010, 21:26:53
Just an update, since Jan 2008 and nearly 35000km later, my auto i30 SR has averaged 8.6L/100km. Yup, that's about 1L above official figures but the A/C runs ALL the time as I live in North Queensland. Pretty happy with that!!
Good to see you.. Yeah that does seem o/k for an Auto petrol...
Post by: IMCRZY on March 19, 2010, 22:21:28
Just an update, since Jan 2008 and nearly 35000km later, my auto i30 SR has averaged 8.6L/100km. Yup, that's about 1L above official figures but the A/C runs ALL the time as I live in North Queensland. Pretty happy with that!!
I wish my 5 speed SR done 8.6....... but im still 30000kms behine ya lol
Mine is sittin on 9.6 now but i dont granny it around all the time....
Post by: xlink_nz on May 12, 2010, 23:33:32
Post by: Duckman on May 13, 2010, 07:56:38
I couldn't suggest the car enough, except for when the diesel owners blow their diesel horn and give us thier "fan boy" posts :lol:
PS. (especially) Daz, no offence meant :lol:
Post by: trev012 on November 06, 2010, 17:36:45
This equates to approx 7.1l/100km as I set up an account with this website http://www.fuelly.com (http://www.fuelly.com) that tracks all your performances. I don't really do a lot of hard driving so I have to say I'm slightly disappointed.
Post by: babis_xo on November 09, 2010, 09:51:54
This equates to approx 7.1l/100km as I set up an account with this website http://www.fuelly.com (http://www.fuelly.com) that tracks all your performances. I don't really do a lot of hard driving so I have to say I'm slightly disappointed.
7.1 l/100km isn't bad at all for a petrol car in mixed conditions.
My 1.4 needs almost 50% more fuel in heavy traffic of Athens.
This fuelly.com is a good find Trev :)
Post by: snowcherry on November 19, 2010, 03:39:26
but i don't understand what to put in for petrol under the fuels. there is no choice for unleaded petrol and i can understand diesel and gas etc but there's no petrol? :question:
also no idea on engine type though i guess its not important
Post by: Dazzler on November 19, 2010, 09:46:09
but i don't understand what to put in for petrol under the fuels. there is no choice for unleaded petrol and i can understand diesel and gas etc but there's no petrol? :question:
It's a US site SC.. Gas = Petrol in the US :wink:
They have different capacity for their Gallon too so have to be a bit carful with conversions..
Post by: snowcherry on November 19, 2010, 13:39:18
so what is premium 'gas' - oh boy
Post by: Dazzler on November 19, 2010, 20:34:41
Gas is short for Gasoline.. for example the new i45 has a fairly potent GDi motor (which stands for Gasoline Direct Injection)...
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/hyundai-i45-engine.jpg)
Post by: trev012 on November 20, 2010, 15:46:15
so what is premium 'gas' - oh boy
Yeah. The Yanks think of everything :idea: Where would we be without them :eek:
Post by: snowcherry on November 21, 2010, 03:46:15
think i might leave it at that for want of anything better
Post by: bumpkin on November 21, 2010, 15:34:01
Post by: snowcherry on November 22, 2010, 01:36:59
doesn't look they distinguish premium at all actually...it's just 'gas' ....not too sure i'm fussed on that
the choices are:
gas
diesel
bi-fuel
CNG
electric/diesel
flex
hybrid
LPG
Post by: trev012 on November 22, 2010, 19:34:15
sorry bumpkin...i need to know in regards to that particular site :D
doesn't look they distinguish premium at all actually...it's just 'gas' ....not too sure i'm fussed on that
the choices are:
gas
diesel
bi-fuel
CNG
electric/diesel
flex
hybrid
LPG
Well when I set up my account, I input "gas" as I drive a 1.6 petrol. I have also compared the same the old fashioned way with a calculator and the figures match :D
Post by: hannes on November 23, 2010, 12:21:10
Post by: Dazzler on November 23, 2010, 20:04:33
Post by: babis_xo on November 24, 2010, 00:14:44
Mine is on 16000km now and the lowest I could get it driving very lightfooted is 8.0l/100km. I was wondering if it could be because of the sparkplug gap, but i'm not sure how to get to the plugs and what the gaps should be as it's not in the owners manual. Help please
Welcome hannes!
Standard Sparkplug gap:
Unleaded Fuel : 1.0 ~ 1.1 mm
Leaded Fuel : 0.9 ~ 1.0 mm
Post by: snowcherry on December 01, 2010, 06:52:14
Mine is on 16000km now and the lowest I could get it driving very lightfooted is 8.0l/100km. I was wondering if it could be because of the sparkplug gap, but i'm not sure how to get to the plugs and what the gaps should be as it's not in the owners manual. Help please
also depends where you're driving. a lot of start/stop inner city driving, or motor ways/highway driving? you won't get very good ratio's on inner city driving with the petrol. i average 8.4 up to 8.8 for highway driving in a petrol auto. i have managed to get it into the 7.0's but only in extremely long flat runs on the highway.
Post by: snowcherry on April 02, 2011, 14:24:42
Well when I set up my account, I input "gas" as I drive a 1.6 petrol. I have also compared the same the old fashioned way with a calculator and the figures match :D
i have done my fourth fill up with fuelly now. stats are not looking good. tells me my economy is 9.6 :(
car tells me its 8.6 :confused:
Post by: babis_xo on April 03, 2011, 01:14:53
i have done my fourth fill up with fuelly now. stats are not looking good. tells me my economy is 9.6 :(Car tells you 8,6 lt/100km but was 9,6 in reallity. That is, you paid for ~4 litres more (per every fill-up after 400km).
car tells me its 8.6 :confused:
Either:
a) you filled up to the neck, but the car still considers that as 53 litres (max tank capacity)
or
b) (unlikely) gas station's fuel pump is a really big cheater (+10%) :eek:
Reset trip computer and next time pull out the hose immediately after the 1st click.
Post by: snowcherry on April 03, 2011, 04:28:16
fuelly says that if you like to fill to the neck make sure you do it for every fill. so i assumed by this fourth fill it would now be averaging out, but it still says 9.6. (it started at 10.something).
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oh i think i get ya now i wrote that out and read it back, you're saying i need less fuel in the car for the car to do a proper reading. bugger :-\
Post by: Dazzler on April 03, 2011, 05:34:11
I don't believe the Trip PC would be that much out (.1 or .2 maybe but no more than that.. So I suspect it has something to do with Imperial Gallons Versus US gallons... :whistler:
Publish your kilometres versus litres purchased and we will soon give you an accurate figure :goodjob:
Post by: snowcherry on April 03, 2011, 07:56:01
http://www.fuelly.com/driver/snowcherry/i30 (http://www.fuelly.com/driver/snowcherry/i30)
Post by: Dazzler on April 03, 2011, 08:36:12
hmmm i think anyone can see this?
http://www.fuelly.com/driver/snowcherry/i30 (http://www.fuelly.com/driver/snowcherry/i30)
Have you still got your original Kilometre and litres purchased figures?
I'm concerned that calculator is using US gallons which are different to what we use..
See here:-
http://www.teaching-english-in-japan.net/conversion/gallons (http://www.teaching-english-in-japan.net/conversion/gallons)
I prefer this...
http://www.hicloneqld.com/fuelcalculator.html (http://www.hicloneqld.com/fuelcalculator.html)
Post by: babis_xo on April 03, 2011, 13:25:07
...this fill was 56L i think though as i was running on empty.
:eek: you sure did run on empty!
I'm not sure how many litres can get into the "neck", but I know that my brother's '02 Seat Leon takes up to 10ltrs there!
As for MPG, gallons etc, sorry but i've "lost the ball" :confused: :lol:
Post by: Pip on April 03, 2011, 13:53:57
I really can't believe the figures you have are correct. :wtf:
Post by: rustynutz on April 03, 2011, 14:19:51
...this fill was 56L i think though as i was running on empty.
:eek: you sure did run on empty!
Not that empty, I got 59.85 litres in a couple of weeks back..... :whistler:
Post by: babis_xo on April 03, 2011, 15:47:41
:eek:...this fill was 56L i think though as i was running on empty.
:eek: you sure did run on empty!
Not that empty, I got 59.85 litres in a couple of weeks back..... :whistler:
Post by: carib on April 03, 2011, 16:13:57
The first fill up, when I picked mine, exactly 60L! :o
Regards,
carib
Post by: babis_xo on April 03, 2011, 16:43:23
Probably you were running on... wind
Post by: snowcherry on April 04, 2011, 01:50:17
Have you still got your original Kilometre and litres purchased figures?
I prefer this...
http://www.hicloneqld.com/fuelcalculator.html (http://www.hicloneqld.com/fuelcalculator.html)
result: 9.57 L/100k
Yeah, gallons ain't gallons... but a calculation from full-tank to full-tank is simple enough to verify. The only thing you need do is ensure the tank filling is exactly the same for both fills. The guaranteed way is to neck it both times. Relying on "first click" or some other indicator can be a variable.
I really can't believe the figures you have are correct. :wtf:
yup i fill to the neck on every fill. i find the first click is no good as that tends to occur at only 40oddL for me - also many bowsers up here tend to be set too sensitive and click off easily so a 'true' first click is about impossible to determine. so i find it easier to always go the neck.
Post by: babis_xo on April 04, 2011, 09:00:46
yup i fill to the neck on every fill. i find the first click is no good as that tends to occur at only 40oddL for me - also many bowsers up here tend to be set too sensitive and click off easily so a 'true' first click is about impossible to determine. so i find it easier to always go the neck.I always refuel from a specific(*) gas station and pull the hose out by the first click. Found out that figures between trip computer and my calculations are pretty much the same, as Dazz said.
So, you don't trust your Trip comp. or your gas station?
(*)PS: Offers cheap fuel of good quality, and as proven, a fair trader (so far :rolleyes: )
Post by: snowcherry on April 05, 2011, 02:04:34
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So, you don't trust your Trip comp. or your gas station?
well i guess i don't trust the first click regardless. seems pointless to me to only fill it with say 42L
i don't always use the same petrol station. some days i drive south, some days i drive north. with almost two hours between towns it's a big ask to keep to one station.
i'll keep doing by the neck but there is a discrepancy there between the car and the onsite thingys. i guess i just have to settle with the fact that my economy is much worse than i thought :confused:
Post by: babis_xo on April 06, 2011, 23:21:12
some days i drive south, some days i drive north(Sigh)... I love freedom
Even if it costs a little more fuel. Besides, my humble 1.4 "drinks" more.
Post by: snowcherry on April 08, 2011, 03:33:25
teehee i'm not sure we call it freedom here, more of a lack of choice living in the 'sticks' :lol:some days i drive south, some days i drive north(Sigh)... I love freedom
Even if it costs a little more fuel. Besides, my humble 1.4 "drinks" more.
work is one way, groceries are another way and anything remotely resembling shopping is the other way
Post by: babis_xo on April 08, 2011, 11:11:43
Maybe Marathon running isn't an Athen's only "privilege".
I always try to find groceries and shops alongside my way back home from work (the benefits of living in over-populated places)
"If you can't avert living in the sticks then try to relax and enjoy"
Post by: asathorny on April 08, 2011, 12:48:47
Quote from: i30DaveMy fuel economy is 8.1ltr/100km
What is this in good old imperial measurements - mpg?
:whsaid: :whsaid: :tease:
Post by: Dazzler on April 08, 2011, 13:27:05
What is this in good old imperial measurements - mpg?
8.1 LPH = approx 29MPG
Post by: snowcherry on April 29, 2011, 02:35:06
fuelly marvelously dropped from that 9.6 to a lovely 8.3! but the gauge had gone from the 8.6 to 8.8. :rofl:
this last tank gave me 630 kilometres though so i guess that is why fuelly dropped so much. i guess as time goes on fuelly will just start to level out. :)
http://www.fuelly.com/driver/akamikazebutterfly/i30 (http://www.fuelly.com/driver/akamikazebutterfly/i30)
p.s the 8.3 is 28.3mpg according to fuelly.
Post by: i30RWAB on May 17, 2011, 14:17:39
Post by: 2i30s on May 18, 2011, 10:11:20
Hello all! I am happy to be posting numbers for my "petrol" i30. I have been averaging 33 US MPG which I believe converts to about 7.1 l/100km. I have removed my back seat. But added at least two hundred pounds of equipment to the vehicle. The car is a 5 speed.that's not to bad considering all that extra weight your carrying around.
Post by: rustynutz on May 18, 2011, 15:32:02
Hello all! I am happy to be posting numbers for my "petrol" i30. I have been averaging 33 US MPG which I believe converts to about 7.1 l/100km. I have removed my back seat. But added at least two hundred pounds of equipment to the vehicle. The car is a 5 speed.that's not to bad considering all that extra weight your carrying around.
200 pounds isn't that much weight, roughly equal to carrying a passenger around......(wish I only weighed that much..lol) :p :-[
Post by: SergeyAU on June 24, 2011, 15:23:36
There is tooooo much talk about the diesel models on here :lol:
I will be posting my results and observations over the coming weeks.
I filled up my car for the first time today <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /> took 53 litres to full.
It clicked off at 45 litres, but i managed to squeeze another 8 litres in.
When i picked up the car the trip computer read 30l/100km. After a
day of driving around town it dropped to 12.4l/100km. The distance to
empty reads 520km but i'm hopping i get a bit more than that.
Still trying to find out which model has a trip computer? My SX does not =(
Post by: rustynutz on June 24, 2011, 17:27:35
This sort of info can also be found at the Hyundai website (http://www.hyundai.com.au/Vehicles/i30/Specification-Range/default.aspx), click on "features by range" and then "Expand all"
Cheers :goodjob:
Post by: SergeyAU on June 25, 2011, 02:17:19
The SLX & SR have the trip computer.......
This sort of info can also be found at the Hyundai website (http://www.hyundai.com.au/Vehicles/i30/Specification-Range/default.aspx), click on "features by range" and then "Expand all"
Cheers :goodjob:
Thanks! Is it possible to replace my SX trip computer with SLX unit?
Post by: Dazzler on June 25, 2011, 02:56:13
The SLX & SR have the trip computer.......
This sort of info can also be found at the Hyundai website (http://www.hyundai.com.au/Vehicles/i30/Specification-Range/default.aspx), click on "features by range" and then "Expand all"
Cheers :goodjob:
Thanks! Is it possible to replace my SX trip computer with SLX unit?
I doubt it very much (although no one on here has tried from what I can remember) it might be just a software thing but wouldn't be simple :whistler:
Post by: Pranav on July 11, 2011, 05:37:01
That is I have done the maths right :rolleyes:
Am happy with the figure, always better if it goes down ! :happydance:
Post by: Kimba on July 11, 2011, 07:02:38
I was just reading somewhere on here that someone tops up the fuel after the nozzle clicks off - I do that too..
I was reading through my instruction manual the other day and they specifically say not to do it. Why is that?
Post by: Pip on July 11, 2011, 07:29:05
Herro!
I was just reading somewhere on here that someone tops up the fuel after the nozzle clicks off - I do that too..
I was reading through my instruction manual the other day and they specifically say not to do it. Why is that?
On a hot day the petrol will expand and overflow.
Post by: rustynutz on July 11, 2011, 08:38:16
Post by: Jack on July 12, 2011, 06:45:38
All running was done around town only... 9.91 L/100K or for the old folk.. 28.48MPG
Not to bad for a 2L auto me thinks..
Post by: Pranav on July 12, 2011, 06:56:57
Post by: Duckman on November 20, 2011, 21:12:00
Post by: Ralph1 on January 08, 2012, 08:49:37
I had an encounter with the cruise control, when it gets to a decent size hill it goes back to 3rd, then 2nd and revs up to 4200rpms. Now I hit cancel and do the hills myself, also had it disconnect up one hill and turn off!!
cheers
Ralph
Post by: Phil №❶ on January 08, 2012, 09:20:02
As well as expansion, sometimes above the tank there are flexible pipes that connect to the fuel filler. If they ever perish or crack, you could have an instant substantial fuel leak. I have had 2 other cars where this has happened, with petrol it is very dangerous. :neutral:
Post by: Surferdude on January 08, 2012, 09:54:25
I 'm happy with that.
On long trips I get down to just under/ over 7.00 l/100k.
Post by: babis_xo on January 08, 2012, 19:15:26
On long trips I get down to just under/ over 7.00 l/100k.Mr Lightfoot! :goodjob:
Post by: Jivan on February 29, 2012, 13:19:36
(1.6 A/T)
Post by: snowcherry on April 21, 2012, 04:57:27
Herro!
I was just reading somewhere on here that someone tops up the fuel after the nozzle clicks off - I do that too..
i do that
Best to only do it if you're gonna be driving a fair distance afterwards.... :)
always have at least 1/2 hour to go once filled up. never had any issues with expansion etc.
Just did a fuel check on the i30 last week.
All running was done around town only... 9.91 L/100K or for the old folk.. 28.48MPG
Not to bad for a 2L auto me thinks..
still averaging 8.1 according to trippy thingy and fuelly.com. i do higher percentage of highway driving than most. i can hit 10+ in brissy fairly easily.
Post by: babis_xo on April 21, 2012, 19:15:01
first 500 kms: 6,1 lt/100km with an average speed of 92km/h
next 500 kms: 5,8 lt/100km with an average speed of 75km/h
:happydance:
Post by: Dazzler on April 21, 2012, 22:36:25
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 22, 2012, 14:30:29
That's damn good economy.
Post by: babis_xo on April 23, 2012, 09:27:27
The (1.000 kms in total) trip costs, were:
106 € for fuel :D
48 € for tolls :evil:
30 € for cofees & snacks :whistler:
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 23, 2012, 09:29:25
106 € for fuel :D
48 € for tolls :evil:
30 € for cofees & snacks :whistler:
The look on the service station attendant's face when we refuelled her: priceless :lol:
Post by: babis_xo on April 23, 2012, 10:03:08
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