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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => ELECTRICAL | ELECTRONIC | AUDIO => Topic started by: panthersteve on March 30, 2015, 02:19:26

Title: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: panthersteve on March 30, 2015, 02:19:26
Hi
I have now secured myself one of the FD-01 head units as fitter to circa '09 FD's, this is the one with Bluetooth.

I have it in and running but was wondering if there was a set of instructions for this unit as it is not covered in the normal handbook.

If there was and someone reading this has a copy I would very much appreciate getting a scan of it.

Cheers
Steve
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: Dazzler on March 30, 2015, 02:45:43
Hi
I have now secured myself one of the FD-01 head units as fitter to circa '09 FD's, this is the one with Bluetooth.

I have it in and running but was wondering if there was a set of instructions for this unit as it is not covered in the normal handbook.

If there was and someone reading this has a copy I would very much appreciate getting a scan of it.

Cheers
Steve

If yours has the bluetooth I would suspect it would be more circa 'late '10 or early '11 FD (before that they had no bluetooth feature)

Hopefully someone does have a book to share. Don't think there is a link to one on here (did you try a google search?)
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: Dazzler on March 30, 2015, 02:48:47
Some how to You Tube videos and other pieces come up when I google..

Instruction book for Bluetooth enabled Hyundai i30
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: panthersteve on March 30, 2015, 03:16:20
Thanks Dazzler, I have done that search too and the only thing the videos show is what I have already been able to do.

I would like to get instructions as I prefer to read them and sometimes I find out what can be done ahead of actually needing it.

Cheers Steve
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: Dazzler on March 30, 2015, 03:20:48
Thanks Dazzler, I have done that search too and the only thing the videos show is what I have already been able to do.

I would like to get instructions as I prefer to read them and sometimes I find out what can be done ahead of actually needing it.

Cheers Steve

Fair call. I am not a Manual person (after two years managing a Retravision Electrical store and 17 years on and off working for Radio Rentals I have always just worked things out on the fly. My older Brother on the other hand.. Got his Owner's manual and read it cover to cover, three or four times, 3 months before he got his latest car!  :Shocked: He is a Computer programmer/software writer and takes text books to bed!  :spitty:
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: rustynutz on March 31, 2015, 04:23:35
Try this, Steve....  :undecided:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iihi8e6p2gby7uk/Hyundai%20FD-01%20-%20Instruction%20Manual.pdf?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/iihi8e6p2gby7uk/Hyundai%20FD-01%20-%20Instruction%20Manual.pdf?dl=0)
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: panthersteve on March 31, 2015, 06:01:05
Thanks for the link  :goodjob:

I got an early birthday present this morning from :link: FD-01 User Manual (https://i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=34484.0)

 :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: Dazzler on March 31, 2015, 08:33:28
Thanks for the link  :goodjob:

I got an early birthday present this morning from :link: FD-01 User Manual (https://i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=34484.0)

 :goodjob2:

You would have got some birthday greetings too if you put your birthday in your profile...  :whistler:
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: The Gonz on March 31, 2015, 09:50:27
I'm guessing you want more from your Bluetooth than just playing music from your phone or tablet. Otherwise a $5 USB dongle will do, not that I'vebothered to go beyond the USB socket for now.

As for full telephony via Bluetooth, my GPS takes care of the hands-free for me. :victory:
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: elantraelite on March 31, 2015, 10:28:09
Wow thanks! I have been after a copy of this for ages!
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: mjt57 on March 31, 2015, 10:57:31
It's amazing what can be found on the 'net if you know where to look (mostly, I don't...).

The FD-01 fitted to my i30 has its manual as a supplement to the standard owners manual. As mine is a late 2011 build I'm guessing that it's restricted to the last of that shape model. Early ones that I test drove didn't have BT except for one, a mid-11 petrol.

Speaking of models, who has a list of them. I don't know one from the next other than their model years.
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: rustynutz on March 31, 2015, 11:15:26
Speaking of models, who has a list of them. I don't know one from the next other than their model years.

Here's some: :link: Hyundai I30 new models list - discover the best Hyundai I30 model (http://www.cars-data.com/en/hyundai/i30)  :D
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: Dazzler on March 31, 2015, 16:51:49
Speaking of models, who has a list of them. I don't know one from the next other than their model years.

Here's some: :link: Hyundai I30 new models list - discover the best Hyundai I30 model (http://www.cars-data.com/en/hyundai/i30)  :D

 There is also this..

:link: Hyundai i30 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_i30)
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: mjt57 on April 01, 2015, 00:04:26
Thanks guys but neither tell me what the different model/year designators are.

I see references to terms such as "GD" here but nothing to explain it.
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: rustynutz on April 01, 2015, 00:16:42
The FD i30 was the old body shape, the GD is the current shape...  :D
The FD came out in 2007 and was replaced with the GD in 2012.
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: Dazzler on April 01, 2015, 06:44:09
The FD i30 was the old body shape, the GD is the current shape...  :D
The FD came out in 2007 and was replaced with the GD in 2012.

.. and because 2012 was a transition year there are 2012 FD and 2012 GD i30's. Fortunately they look very different as seen in our split gallery.. 
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: ibrokeit on April 01, 2015, 15:37:24
It's amazing what can be found on the 'net if you know where to look (mostly, I don't...).

The FD-01 fitted to my i30 has its manual as a supplement to the standard owners manual. As mine is a late 2011 build I'm guessing that it's restricted to the last of that shape model. Early ones that I test drove didn't have BT except for one, a mid-11 petrol.

Speaking of models, who has a list of them. I don't know one from the next other than their model years.

So just to be Captain Obvious - some of the stereo/radio headunits fitted, at least in the AU market, have the same body/generation code as the model they fit in, others headunits don't...

FD-01 (bluetooth) fits FD body - so do the PA-710 and PA-760 headunits (though FD-01 can't replace the PA-760 - something to do with an amp)

Surprise, surprise for the GD body - there are the GD-01 and GD-02 (I don't know if they are interchangeable - I would guess so)
The major difference seems to be GD-02 doesn't have a CD player, but does have rear view camera input (for parking) - looking at manuals.   No idea how different (or same) the firmware and UI are.
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: elantraelite on April 02, 2015, 00:40:57
Headunits that use the generation code are made by Cartronics. All other units you'll find are made by Hyundai / Autonet / Mobis
Title: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: elantraelite on April 21, 2015, 13:52:12
Yesterday I met one of the guys from Cartronics regarding the poor quality bluetooth issue. Learnt quite a few interesting things regarding these headunits only found in Australia. Particular models and grades are shipped to Australia without headunits in them and are fitted when they arrive here. They currently produce the Non-nav version of the GD stereo, Accent, iload/imax and i20. There is a few more too.

It looks like there is one software update for the FD-01 (mcu 0.2q) this is supposed to be the most current version, however it doesnt fix the bluetooth quality issue.

They happily swapped my headunit over free of charge even though the cars warranty run out almost 2 years ago.

Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: cruiserfied on April 22, 2015, 02:39:54

They happily swapped my headunit over free of charge even though the cars warranty run out almost 2 years ago.

Wow good stuff
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: Dazzler on April 22, 2015, 09:29:45

They happily swapped my headunit over free of charge even though the cars warranty run out almost 2 years ago.

Wow good stuff

 :whsaid: :happydance:
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: mjt57 on April 27, 2015, 06:51:37

It looks like there is one software update for the FD-01 (mcu 0.2q) this is supposed to be the most current version, however it doesnt fix the bluetooth quality issue.
Bluetooth issues aside (mine has none), what improvements, enhancements, new/extra features does this update provide?
Mine's getting its 30k service soon. I might enquire about it. And it still has 18 mths warranty.
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: elantraelite on April 27, 2015, 06:53:25
From what was discussed it is supposed to fix some issues with radio reception.
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: ibrokeit on April 27, 2015, 09:07:59
From what was discussed it is supposed to fix some issues with radio reception.

 :ta:

Bummer - I had my car serviced today.  Didn't think to ask for the firmware to be updated in the FD-01 that I fitted last week.   IIRC the firmware for the MCU is '0.2o' *sigh*
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: elantraelite on April 27, 2015, 11:40:33
I wouldnt be too concerned if you didnt get the update. Im hoping it fixed the issue with the clock always speeding up and also the temperature reading. I found if the temperature drops below 5 degrees it goes crazy and counts down. Will update if this has been fixed with the update.
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: iimech on April 30, 2015, 03:45:05

They happily swapped my headunit over free of charge even though the cars warranty run out almost 2 years ago.

My FD-01 bluetooth doesn't work at all. I asked the service dealer to check, they just said it is out of warranty and want $280 to replace with a new one. They didn't even bother to check the radio at all.

My car is 2011 FD i30cw and I bought it second hand. I should have check the bluetooth before I paid!
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: elantraelite on April 30, 2015, 03:47:12
If they only want $280 to replace it, then that is cheap! I got quoted $250 just to disconnect and replace the unit with one provided free of charge.
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: Dazzler on April 30, 2015, 09:41:24

They happily swapped my headunit over free of charge even though the cars warranty run out almost 2 years ago.

My FD-01 bluetooth doesn't work at all. I asked the service dealer to check, they just said it is out of warranty and want $280 to replace with a new one. They didn't even bother to check the radio at all.

My car is 2011 FD i30cw and I bought it second hand. I should have check the bluetooth before I paid!

Did it ever work? Only some MY11 i30's got Bluetooth. My wife's previous MY11 CW didn't have it but others built a month later did...
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: ibrokeit on April 30, 2015, 21:12:06
If they only want $280 to replace it, then that is cheap! I got quoted $250 just to disconnect and replace the unit with one provided free of charge.

I agree with the above - if that is for an FD-01.

As when I enquired about purchasing an FD-01 new from a dealer parts service... I got quoted just under $2,500 see here (https://i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=33931.0).
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: iimech on May 01, 2015, 01:03:04

They happily swapped my headunit over free of charge even though the cars warranty run out almost 2 years ago.

My FD-01 bluetooth doesn't work at all. I asked the service dealer to check, they just said it is out of warranty and want $280 to replace with a new one. They didn't even bother to check the radio at all.

My car is 2011 FD i30cw and I bought it second hand. I should have check the bluetooth before I paid!

Did it ever work? Only some MY11 i30's got Bluetooth. My wife's previous MY11 CW didn't have it but others built a month later did...

No idea! I bought the car second hand, not sure the last owner has the same problem.
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: elantraelite on May 01, 2015, 01:58:40
Does the unit say FD-01 in the left corner?

Not sure if this will work on the FD-01. But on the Getz we had the bluebooth would sometimes play up. We would disconnect the headunit from power... Be the battery or fuse. It would reset it and start working again.

Also check you firmware is up to date. Do this by:

1. Plug in a cable into the AUX in the console
2. Select AUX mode
3. Press 1 and I think its 3 at the same time. (If 3 doesnt work try 1 with the other numbers)
4. It should pop up with FD-01 Version, then give you 3 sets of numbers.
5. Check that they match the pic attached. These are the most up to date firmware versions. (Straight from Cartronics themselves) - if they are different as Hyundai update these at your next service. This should be free of charge with your service.

 (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/30/74d4aa20fec9ad6ef9bcfd32eeb710ec.jpg)
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: iimech on May 01, 2015, 04:20:15
yes, it has the FD-01 in the radio.

I tried the battery disconnection before, it didn't help.

I will try the AUX and cable trick to see how it goes.

Cheers
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: iimech on May 03, 2015, 07:30:56
OK, My FD-01 has the following version only:

MCU=0.2
CPU=008
DFU=0.00

Looks like they are outdated. :(

edit: To get these numbers, need to press 1 and 6 together on my radio.
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: ibrokeit on May 07, 2015, 13:20:30
OK, My FD-01 has the following version only:

MCU=0.2
CPU=008
DFU=0.00

Looks like they are outdated. :(

edit: To get these numbers, need to press 1 and 6 together on my radio.

I am suspicious of DFU=0.00 - while software/firmware starting with a 'major' version number of '0' is pretty standard, almost always the 'minor' version numbers will start at 1... e.g. 0.1; 0.01; 0.0.1; or similar.

I suspect either the module isn't communicating for some reason or has somehow lost it's firmware.   If it is the second then - hopefully the firmware doesn't do the firmware updates (but is done by a boot-strap) - it maybe a 'simple' matter of getting the firmware updated.



TMI: Generally a version of 0.00 being given is usually an indication of an issue - which may, or may not, be a fault - such as: module not present or module not responding/communicating - generally indistinguishable if the software is only trying to 'talk' to it... except the former may be expected, while the latter usually isn't desired; Or module is responding but has errored, lost functionality/programming or is waiting for upload (e.g. some usb devices get their 'firmware' - or a new version to be used in place of a hard-coded version - loaded from the OS driver each time they are connected)... the first two are undesirable, while the last one maybe expected (unless it doesn't happen).   Except for firmware upload - these states can equally apply to purely software situations... e.g. software 'plugin' modules; software talking over a network, etc.


Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: ibrokeit on May 07, 2015, 19:36:08
So I suppose a question is:

Will you be able to get the/a service center to actually perform a firmware update/upload?   To see if it will fix the issue.   Assuming they can get copies of them - in firmware it isn't unknown for only updates to be available - no updates results in no firmware available to reinstall (because 'why' would you ever need the original firmware?!?)

Or will you take up them up on the $280 to replace it?

Another option, though I don't think it will have an effect, is you could try taking the headunit's front-panel off (warning there is also a flex cable - which you probably won't want to undo) and putting it back on again (to re-seat the connector pins in the rigid connectors).   The reason I don't think it will have any effect is that connectors seem well designed, with sprung contacts on one part and blade contacts on the other, and it would be unlucky for an issue to only effect one function totally and none of the others.   Of course this also involves removing the headunit and you will need to enter the security code (which can be determined from S/N and info here (https://i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=33931.msg356731#msg356731).
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: Owni30 on May 25, 2015, 15:32:12
I found the the Cartronics link to the FD-01 Instruction Manual PDF here:-

http://www.cartronics.net.au/uploads/models/1313114550_FD-01%20-%20User%20Manual%20%28final%29.pdf (http://www.cartronics.net.au/uploads/models/1313114550_FD-01%20-%20User%20Manual%20%28final%29.pdf)

which downloaded the instruction manual direct to my iPad.

The link was published on Google, so I guess it is OK to list it here.
Title: Re: Bluetooth radio in FD
Post by: ibrokeit on May 25, 2015, 16:12:15
I found the the Cartronics link to the FD-01 Instruction Manual PDF here:-

http://www.cartronics.net.au/uploads/models/1313114550_FD-01%20-%20User%20Manual%20%28final%29.pdf (http://www.cartronics.net.au/uploads/models/1313114550_FD-01%20-%20User%20Manual%20%28final%29.pdf)

which downloaded the instruction manual direct to my iPad.

The link was published on Google, so I guess it is OK to list it here.

Other links, and a copy of the cartronics one in a dropbox, can also be found in this post/thread (https://i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=34484.0).

Well that entire site is password protected at least entry via. the home page, but it seems they didn't do a great job (or they hadn't at the time)... being that Google has spidered it at some point.   I don't know if they will be checking logs or otherwise detecting the access of the documents without credentials.
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