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THE GARAGE (SERVICE, MAINTENANCE & REPAIR) => DIESEL => Topic started by: Asterix on August 03, 2015, 19:46:55
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Ok, so my little i30 have now done 237.000 km and I thought it was time to change the drivebelt. I searched this forum and found a drawing showing how to realease the tension on the drivebelt. Here's how (easy) it's done:
Remove the engine cover for better access.
I then took a photo of the routing of the drivebelt as my memory sometimes play games with me :P
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t370/Rasnik-1/Rem-routing_zpshpj3x3qn.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Rasnik-1/media/Rem-routing_zpshpj3x3qn.jpg.html)
To release the tension of the drivebelt you need a 14mm socket on a solid bar or a socket wrench. The 14mm bolt is placed just below the tensionwheel. Place the tool as shown:
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t370/Rasnik-1/Remstrammer1_zpsxq8ulziu.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Rasnik-1/media/Remstrammer1_zpsxq8ulziu.jpg.html)
Force the tool backward towards the cabin and the tension is off the drivebelt and the drivebelt can be removed:
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t370/Rasnik-1/Remstrammer2_zpse5ajeojb.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Rasnik-1/media/Remstrammer2_zpse5ajeojb.jpg.html)
Fit new drivebelt and release the tension again. Job done. Thank you Hyundai for making this maintenance job so easy :goodjob2:
The drivebelt was well worn:
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t370/Rasnik-1/Rem1_zpshnci9b9d.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Rasnik-1/media/Rem1_zpshnci9b9d.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t370/Rasnik-1/Rem2_zpsq9qgexlm.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Rasnik-1/media/Rem2_zpsq9qgexlm.jpg.html)
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Nice one :D
I think you should sticky it :goodjob:
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Nice one :D
I think you should sticky it :goodjob:
As you wish, Sir Shambles... :mrgreen:
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Nice one! Excellent to see high kms too. I wonder what the highest km i30 is today?
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Nice,
Was that the original belt?
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Nice,
Was that the original belt?
Don't know, couldn't see any writing on the old one. I bought the car second hand with 126.000 km on the odo when 3 y/o but it sure wasn't new when I got the car.... :P
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Nice one! Excellent to see high kms too. I wonder what the highest km i30 is today?
Hmm, there's a OZ member with a GD that use the car for driving instructions. Last time, and that's quite a while ago, I saw a post from him he wrote 271.000 km IIRC. Must be close to or over 300.000 by now.... :mrgreen:
EDIT: Found the guy. This is from his signature: 316000+km
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Superb instructions. This operation has the worst description in the HY service manual. " open the tensioner and change the belt". It's hard to crank the bolt if you don't know which is the right one. Im glad you did good instructions to this operation. I am going to chance my belt in couple of weeks. This makes it much more easier.
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Nice one! Excellent to see high kms too. I wonder what the highest km i30 is today?
My i30 is up to 383500km still going strong
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Nice one! Excellent to see high kms too. I wonder what the highest km i30 is today?
My i30 is up to 383500km still going strong
Awesome! :happydance:
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What's the model of the belt?
5PK1815?
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What's the model of the belt?
5PK1815?
5PK1800 or 5PK1815. Went to parts store with original part number, but they were not able to tell which was the right one. So they sold me 5PK1810. It is 10mm too long or 5mm too short. Either way it works fine.
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I fitted a 5PK1800 :wink:
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thanks gents.
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Excellent belt change directions Asterix
I changed mine with a poor quality chinese belt 40 000 kms ago, it disintegrated last week. Im lucky I had kept the old factory one in the boot with in spare wheel well.
A lesson learned for me, no cheap belts from the Korean part place at Deception bay Qld!. its now either dayco or genuine.
Also if you need to change the pulleys the bolts are torx t40 with the standard direction thread, the best thing i found to get in there is cheap allen key style torx keys. Its hard to get a torx male socket in there, very tight. The pulleys spin on a ferrule so the bolt dosent support them just keeps them on.
The pulley that was noisy and loose on mine was the top EP230, Seems to cop the most heat and work.
Belt path guide (taken from dayco catalogue)
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Hi All.
I bought a Gates 5pk1800, and I asked the mechanic to change it.
He said it was too short, but since it's the first time I've taken the car to him, I'm not sure whether to trust him or not, so I decided to have a go myself.
Not only I couldn't fit it, now I can't even fit the previous one.
in short, I'm an idiot.
Is there a trick to this? so little space to work
should I just buy an 1815?
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Hi All.
I bought a Gates 5pk1800, and I asked the mechanic to change it.
He said it was too short, but since it's the first time I've taken the car to him, I'm not sure whether to trust him or not, so I decided to have a go myself.
Not only I couldn't fit it, now I can't even fit the previous one.
in short, I'm an idiot.
Is there a trick to this? so little space to work
should I just buy an 1815?
5PK1811 is the OEM size for yours so you'll probably get away with an 1810, 1815 will fit. What size is your old belt? If it came off it will go back on.
Have you compressed the belt tensioner fully and locked it into place with a metal pin say 3mm or a drill bit would do of suitable size? Have you routed the belt correctly?
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you sir are awesome.
I didn't know about locking it in place, I was struggling, trying to do all at once, with the tools in the middle of it all!
I haven't measure mine, and it's pretty worn and no markings but eyeballing about 1.5cm longer than the 1800.
I guess 1810 is closer to 1811 than 1815.
I'll have a go tomorrow at installing the old one, and order the part online.
Can you believe Repco wanted ~$85 for it?
Ebay it's about $25 inc shipping from the uk for a dayco.
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I notice at Supercheap that they have a belt measuring device so that you always get the correct size belt. Try there.
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you sir are awesome.
I didn't know about locking it in place, I was struggling, trying to do all at once, with the tools in the middle of it all!
I haven't measure mine, and it's pretty worn and no markings but eyeballing about 1.5cm longer than the 1800.
I guess 1810 is closer to 1811 than 1815.
I'll have a go tomorrow at installing the old one, and order the part online.
Can you believe Repco wanted ~$85 for it?
Ebay it's about $25 inc shipping from the uk for a dayco.
There's not a lot of nice things I can say in general about spare parts in australia. Biggest wrought out and don't always assume genuine is always dearer either.
:link: Bosch Serpentine Belt 5PK1811 | Sparesbox (https://www.sparesbox.com.au/bosch-serpentine-belt-5pk1811-30-1-987-ae2-424)
spend $50 or more and free ship, sometimes they have 30% off, that's when I bought a bunch of stuff
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I notice at Supercheap that they have a belt measuring device so that you always get the correct size belt. Try there.
I should try it out, I think I'm up to a 36 -38" belt these days
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:snigger:
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here's some oem numbers
252122A310, (http://www.hyundai-parts.com.ua/image/cache/data/logo_parts/252122a310-1-600x600_0.JPG)
AL400 2A310 , probably stick with that first one, not seeing much on planet google for the second.
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Ok, went to supercheap, and measured it.
It's a 1811.
I installed the old one back for the time being, It wasn't that easy.
even with the locked pin, to get the belt into the right groove, I had to push it further than the pin lock, though it did make things easier.
I'm considering whether i should get a 1815 rather than a 1810. brand new 1810 might even be more difficult to install
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you sir are awesome.
I didn't know about locking it in place, I was struggling, trying to do all at once, with the tools in the middle of it all!
I haven't measure mine, and it's pretty worn and no markings but eyeballing about 1.5cm longer than the 1800.
I guess 1810 is closer to 1811 than 1815.
I'll have a go tomorrow at installing the old one, and order the part online.
Can you believe Repco wanted ~$85 for it?
Ebay it's about $25 inc shipping from the uk for a dayco.
There's not a lot of nice things I can say in general about spare parts in australia. Biggest wrought out and don't always assume genuine is always dearer either.
:link: Bosch Serpentine Belt 5PK1811 | Sparesbox (https://www.sparesbox.com.au/bosch-serpentine-belt-5pk1811-30-1-987-ae2-424)
spend $50 or more and free ship, sometimes they have 30% off, that's when I bought a bunch of stuff
I agree with you both. Some Chinese suppliers have good quality parts and fast free postage.
I used to have an account with Repco, but they have become a variety store with HIGH priced parts out back.
Supercheap also mix a lot of junk out front with some ok products, but they are much more competitive and helpful with spare parts.
Burson is the go to place for the tradesman. You need an account to get the best price. But smooth talking ;) helps.
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@Asterix do you still have the photos you uploaded originally [to photobucket] ?
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I'm afraid not.
Have searched laptop, flashdrive & phone, but I think they're on my old laptop who had a meltdown... :disapp:
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Hello,
Thanks for the post.
I need to change my i30 drive belt. Your post is great but I cannot see the photos.
Do you still have them?
Thanks again.
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Hi
Afraid not. When Photobucket stopped supporting 3rd party hosting I closed my account without making sure to copy my pics
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Crazykev's schematic (above) will be sufficient. Not a big job, as long as you know how to route the belt properly. Asterix 's explanation will make it obvious when you look at it.
Addition Image next page
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@Sinisterimposter and others , Finally had time to get into shed 2 with camera here is the image you need.
(https://i.imgur.com/xmBJbi7.jpg)
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Awesome. Thanks Gary
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I changed my belt last week and learnt some lessons that may help. I struggled to fit the the 1810mm replacement belt and AFTER much effort doing so figured out something that makes it easy!
I refer to crazykev's picture in this thread and nzenigma pic (thanks)
1. Remove the torx40 bolt from the idler pulley EP230 (the pulley will stay in place as the bolt only retains it on a boss).
2. Ease the tensioner pulley as described.
3. Remove pulley EP230.
4. Fully de-tension the belt and it will slide off and on easily.
5. Once the belt is on re-install pulley EP230 (I threw the torx40 bolt away and replaced it with a 10mx25mm 1.5mm pitch flange head bolt to make the next time easier)
Pulley EP230 is at the top of the engine with easy access, it deflects the belt a marginal amount and once it is removed the belt has the length needed for maintenance. I even think Hyundai designed it for this way, well done!
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I changed my belt last week and learnt some lessons that may help. I struggled to fit the the 1810mm replacement belt and AFTER much effort doing so figured out something that makes it easy!
I refer to crazykev's picture in this thread and nzenigma pic (thanks)
1. Remove the torx40 bolt from the idler pulley EP230 (the pulley will stay in place as the bolt only retains it on a boss).
2. Ease the tensioner pulley as described.
3. Remove pulley EP230.
4. Fully de-tension the belt and it will slide off and on easily.
5. Once the belt is on re-install pulley EP230 (I threw the torx40 bolt away and replaced it with a 10mx25mm 1.5mm pitch flange head bolt to make the next time easier)
Pulley EP230 is at the top of the engine with easy access, it deflects the belt a marginal amount and once it is removed the belt has the length needed for maintenance. I even think Hyundai designed it for this way, well done!
Did you notice the tensioner has a 14mm hex and a hole which when the tensioner is fully released from the belt you can put a pin through the hole and lock it into position. That may make it easier next time
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@Sinisterimposter and others , Finally had time to get into shed 2 with camera here is the image you need.
(https://i.imgur.com/xmBJbi7.jpg)
Nice job on the wires Gary :rolleyes:
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Added some washer fluid and noticed a hole right in the middle of the drive belt. 5 minutes of hasty work and new one was changed. Looked the old one and saw that there are 6 holes in the belt. Some are through, some are just 'dents'. Nevertheless, weird stuff. Belt is not that old. Maybe it was poor quality. All the pulleys seemed to be fine. I guess I must have gotten some crap between the belt and pulley and at some point it has made holes...
(http://i.imgur.com/ucd6I9b.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7iNGUAA.jpg)
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Added some washer fluid and noticed a hole right in the middle of the drive belt. 5 minutes of hasty work and new one was changed. Looked the old one and saw that there are 6 holes in the belt. Some are through, some are just 'dents'. Nevertheless, weird stuff. Belt is not that old. Maybe it was poor quality. All the pulleys seemed to be fine. I guess I must have gotten some crap between the belt and pulley and at some point it has made holes...
(http://i.imgur.com/ucd6I9b.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7iNGUAA.jpg)
I'm thinking a foreign object has got trapped in a pulley groove or something and puncturred it. Could be worth double checking , could be metal , could still be there and damage new belt. Grooved pulleys i'd check .
this would explain the multiple punctures. 6 punctures 1810mm one every 300mm, crank pulley is probably the largest circumference, who knows , sounds good in theory :wacko:
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@Sinisterimposter and others , Finally had time to get into shed 2 with camera here is the image you need.
(https://i.imgur.com/xmBJbi7.jpg)
Nice job on the wires Gary :rolleyes:
Jeezz mate, picky :confused: Chainsaw can save time :mrgreen:
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@Sinisterimposter and others , Finally had time to get into shed 2 with camera here is the image you need.
(https://i.imgur.com/xmBJbi7.jpg)
Nice job on the wires Gary :rolleyes:
Jeezz mate, picky :confused: Chainsaw can save time :mrgreen:
Sure until one day you need a connector or complete harness. What's that to? The glows? Don't recognise cut wires that well :mrgreen:
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@Sinisterimposter and others , Finally had time to get into shed 2 with camera here is the image you need.
(https://i.imgur.com/xmBJbi7.jpg)
Nice job on the wires Gary :rolleyes:
Jeezz mate, picky :confused: Chainsaw can save time :mrgreen:
Sure until one day you need a connector or complete harness. What's that to? The glows? Don't recognise cut wires that well :mrgreen:
Don't know but there was a huge flash and lots of sparks.
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@Sinisterimposter and others , Finally had time to get into shed 2 with camera here is the image you need.
(https://i.imgur.com/xmBJbi7.jpg)
Nice job on the wires Gary :rolleyes:
Jeezz mate, picky :confused: Chainsaw can save time :mrgreen:
Sure until one day you need a connector or complete harness. What's that to? The glows? Don't recognise cut wires that well :mrgreen:
Don't know but there was a huge flash and lots of sparks.
(https://i.imgur.com/bheihS7.jpg)