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GENERAL STUFF => GENERAL DISCUSSIONS => Random Chit Chat => Topic started by: PhireSideZA on September 04, 2016, 13:18:42
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Hi everyone
After more or less a year of uhm-ing and aah-ing I have decided to go ahead and purchase myself a car DVR/dashcam as I do spend the majority of my time on the road, and with the average driving ability of my fellow road users deteriorating at a steady pace I felt it would be a good investment in case something happens (not that I want it to).
I saw that :link: DealeXtreme - Cool Gadgets at the Right Price - DX Free Shipping Worldwide (http://www.dx.com) had the Xiaoyi Yi Dash Camera for a good price (AU$85) which has some nice features such as WiFi, a nice Novatek processor, lane departure warning and good nighttime video quality.
(http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_444035_1.jpg)
Link: :link: International Edition Xiaomi Yi 2.7"1296P ADAS Wi-Fi Car DVR Camcorder - Free Shipping - DealExtreme (http://www.dx.com/p/international-edition-xiaomi-yi-2-7-1296p-adas-wi-fi-car-dvr-camcorder-852444035)
I however decided to look at alternatives as I prefer low-profile implementations and having an expensive-looking camera suspended from my front windscreen in a crime-ridden city is not a good idea. I am also not too keen on the idea of a camera with a Lithium-based battery system as these can explode quite spectacularly when subjected to heat (we had a 40-degree day last week when it was technically still 'winter').
The VIOFO A118C is a bit pricier than the abovementioned camera but is very low profile and once installed looks like an OEM part. It can also be hidden a lot more than the Xiaoyi and has a capacitor instead of a battery for backup power, so that mitigates the heat issue.
Installed:
(http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/attachments/gen-5-2015-present/141242d1423436002-anyone-use-garmin-dashcam-20-their-ob-dashcam.jpg)
Link: http://www.dx.com/p/a118c-1-5-tft-hd-1080p-cmos-140-wide-angle-3-0mp-car-dvr-video-recorder-camera-black-411419#.V8wMJun5iUk (http://www.dx.com/p/a118c-1-5-tft-hd-1080p-cmos-140-wide-angle-3-0mp-car-dvr-video-recorder-camera-black-411419#.V8wMJun5iUk)
A quick question that I have though is that as I am planning on running a normal USB cable to the camera from my 12V socket instead of the supplied 4m power cable, I don't know the length needed to run it from the rear-view mirrow across the top of the windshield, down the A-pillar, underneath the dash and to my 12V socket. I would appreciate it if anyone could give me an estimation of the length of cable I would need to run it comfortably :goodjob2:
If anyone was wondering, the reason I am running my own cable is because the supplied adapter uses up an entire 12V socket and I would prefer using a 12V adapter with two USB sockets so that I can also plug my phone into it if need be. I have a 12V torch running in my other socket, within arms reach:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41s7OXKiSrL._SX342_.jpg)
Any advice, pointers, caveats and tips would be greatly appreciated :goodjob2:
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Mines a GD but I think the length would be similar, handy that I don't have the cam installed at the moment so was easy to measure the length at 3 metres which I had run in the same manner you're wishing to do.
Your cam is listed here as well :link: DashCamTalk (https://dashcamtalk.com/)
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Congrats on reaching 1000 posts Phil!
That 1st camera has some great features for the price! I can understand the need for a discrete mounting though! :sweating:
Yeah, like Craig says, 3 metres should be ideal. You are a bit handy, why not wire it into the interior light like Shambles and a couple of others have?
Good luck with it. Great post by the way. :victory:
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That is a very low price. I have the following dash cam fitted, it is an excellent camera but the cost is so much more . Same look though. I will have to study the specifications to see the differences. The street Guardian is allegedly Australian designed.
:link: SG9665GC V2 ? FULL HD GPS DVR (https://streetguardian.info/sg9665gc-full-hd-gps-dvr.html)
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That is a very low price. I have the following dash cam fitted, it is an excellent camera but the cost is so much more . Same look though. I will have to study the specifications to see the differences. The street Guardian is allegedly Australian designed.
:link: SG9665GC V2 ? FULL HD GPS DVR (https://streetguardian.info/sg9665gc-full-hd-gps-dvr.html)
John, the SG9665GC V2 is probably the best on the market ( should be a V3 released soon :) ), it has the newer Novatek processor 96655 as opposed to the 96650 and uses the Sony CMOS sensor rather than the Aptina CMOS.
SG also has their SGZC12SG V2 – PRO SERIES CAMERA which has amazing spec's but the price might put you a foetal position :D
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That is a very low price. I have the following dash cam fitted, it is an excellent camera but the cost is so much more . Same look though. I will have to study the specifications to see the differences. The street Guardian is allegedly Australian designed.
:link: SG9665GC V2 ? FULL HD GPS DVR (https://streetguardian.info/sg9665gc-full-hd-gps-dvr.html)
John, the SG9665GC V2 is probably the best on the market ( should be a V3 released soon :) ), it has the newer Novatek processor 96655 as opposed to the 96650 and uses the Sony CMOS sensor rather than the Aptina CMOS.
SG also has their SGZC12SG V2 – PRO SERIES CAMERA which has amazing spec's but the price might put you a foetal position :D
Thanks Craig, had SG9665GC for a while now, its a great camera with fantastic clarity night and day, as I said a bit costly.
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Mines a GD but I think the length would be similar, handy that I don't have the cam installed at the moment so was easy to measure the length at 3 metres which I had run in the same manner you're wishing to do.
Your cam is listed here as well :link: DashCamTalk (https://dashcamtalk.com/)
Ta Craig. I figured about 3m should be enough. I am still not quite sure whether I want to route it through the transmission tunnel and have it plug into the 12V socket or whether I should get a hardwire kit that runs off the OBDII port. The third option is to splice it into the ignition wiring, but I am not too keen to do that as I am not entirely confident that I can do it without messing something up :sweating:
I checked out that website and another called :link: Dashboard Camera Reviews (http://www.dashboardcamerareviews.com) which also have a nice comparison table between brands :goodjob:
Congrats on reaching 1000 posts Phil!
That 1st camera has some great features for the price! I can understand the need for a discrete mounting though! :sweating:
Yeah, like Craig says, 3 metres should be ideal. You are a bit handy, why not wire it into the interior light like Shambles and a couple of others have?
Good luck with it. Great post by the way. :victory:
Thanks Dazz! I didn't even realise I was hovering on 999 posts for so long. Give it a few decades and I would have caught up to you :evil:
As above, I am not all too secure in my knowledge of the intricate wiring of the car so I would prefer a plug and play solution if possible hence me considering the OBDII-port idea or just the 12V socket :goodjob:
That is a very low price. I have the following dash cam fitted, it is an excellent camera but the cost is so much more . Same look though. I will have to study the specifications to see the differences. The street Guardian is allegedly Australian designed.
:link: SG9665GC V2 ? FULL HD GPS DVR (https://streetguardian.info/sg9665gc-full-hd-gps-dvr.html)
John, the SG9665GC V2 is probably the best on the market ( should be a V3 released soon :) ), it has the newer Novatek processor 96655 as opposed to the 96650 and uses the Sony CMOS sensor rather than the Aptina CMOS.
SG also has their SGZC12SG V2 – PRO SERIES CAMERA which has amazing spec's but the price might put you a foetal position :D
John, I saw that one as well and it has some stellar reviews but the price made me fall flat on my back :sweating:
On the other end of the spectrum there are a few $15 jobbies but I would not trust it to have any clarity or features whatsoever. It probably has the resolution of a potato :lol:
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Ta Craig. I figured about 3m should be enough. I am still not quite sure whether I want to route it through the transmission tunnel and have it plug into the 12V socket or whether I should get a hardwire kit that runs off the OBDII port. The third option is to splice it into the ignition wiring, but I am not too keen to do that as I am not entirely confident that I can do it without messing something up :sweating:
I checked out that website and another called :link: Dashboard Camera Reviews (http://www.dashboardcamerareviews.com) which also have a nice comparison table between brands :goodjob:
Route it through the transmission tunnel :confused: is the power socket in the rear of the centre console on FD's ? you'd need at least another metre if thats where you're wanting to run the feed from.
On the GD there are two power sockets under the aircon controls which is where I thought it was on the FD as well :undecided:
Thanks for the other cam review link, I'll check it out :goodjob:
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{ Quote from Wabbit } John, I saw that one as well and it has some stellar reviews but the price made me fall flat on my back :sweating:
On the other end of the spectrum there are a few $15 jobbies but I would not trust it to have any clarity or features whatsoever. It probably has the resolution of a potato :lol: { End of quote }
Hi Wabbit, yes stay away from those real cheapies, probably have to chip out a picture with a flintstone ( like the Flintstones cartoon.) :lol: Yes the SG 9665GC is very costly but I have been really impressed with it. I would be very interested to know what you think of the A118c perhaps you can give us an update when you have used it, might consider that one as a rear camera . :goodjob2:
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Ta Craig. I figured about 3m should be enough. I am still not quite sure whether I want to route it through the transmission tunnel and have it plug into the 12V socket or whether I should get a hardwire kit that runs off the OBDII port. The third option is to splice it into the ignition wiring, but I am not too keen to do that as I am not entirely confident that I can do it without messing something up :sweating:
I checked out that website and another called :link: Dashboard Camera Reviews (http://www.dashboardcamerareviews.com) which also have a nice comparison table between brands :goodjob:
Route it through the transmission tunnel :confused: is the power socket in the rear of the centre console on FD's ? you'd need at least another metre if thats where you're wanting to run the feed from.
On the GD there are two power sockets under the aircon controls which is where I thought it was on the FD as well :undecided:
Thanks for the other cam review link, I'll check it out :goodjob:
You see, this is why I shouldn't post when I have a migraine and am under the influence of a lot of painkillers :sweating:
What I meant to say was the piece where the centre console starts before it goes back through the car towards the gear lever and handbrake. My sockets do indeed sit beneath my AC controls as well. I'm just not keen on it taking up a whole socket to get power when I can try and make the solution a bit more elegant
Apologies for the confusion :D
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No apology needed :)
3 metres should be fine then, as Dazz mentioned you could hard wire it to the power for the reading lights, if you not comfortable doing that a auto electrician wouldn't charge much for that or possibly even add an extra power socket.
There are also kits for hard wiring to the battery but they aren't really necessary if you have a capacitor cam, they're more useful for cams that have motion detection.
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I've got the A118 on wife's car and the Street Guardian on mine. The A118 isn't very good at night, the Street Guardian is excellent.
The fella who sells the Street Guardian, trades as "Jokin" on several forums for dash cam owners. He is a fountain of knowledge and will answer questions about other units.
I wouldn't buy the A118 again but would definitely buy the Street Guardian.
Mine uses a micro USB 5m that goes down the a pillar and into the fuse box. I wired a spare cigarette lighter to an add-a-fuse and plugged a 12V to USB into that. I can easily remove it if I have a problem or the car is going in for something to do with warranty. However as this has now finished I continue to have it that way. I bought a 12V to double USB and my GPS plugs into that as well. No visible wires.
:link: 2 X MICRO2 Micro 2 Fuse TAP ADD A Circuit ATR Fuse Taps AUS Seller | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/252486837375?lpid=107&chn=ps)
and something like this :link: Double USB Cigarette Lighter Adaptor - Run 2 USB devices off one 12v socket! | Piplers (http://www.piplers.co.uk/double-usb-cigarette-lighter-adaptor)
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I have the setting positions set for both our cars, but haven't addressed the wiring and I'm so over it and I haven't even started yet. :'(
Where do you chaps get your enthusiasm from :question:
The pain, the pain :exclaim:
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I have the setting positions set for both our cars, but haven't addressed the wiring and I'm so over it and I haven't even started yet. :'(
Where do you chaps get your enthusiasm from :question:
The pain, the pain :exclaim:
Seeing the i30 is such a good car there is nothing else to do to them except fiddle with things like dash cams. :snigger: mind you the novelty wears off and you soon forget them. Now what can I fiddle with next ? Maybe best if you don't answer that. :lol:
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Back in 1983 I fitted a 5 inch TV to my Commodore, built neatly into a faux leather trimmed armrest between the front seats. Back then a dash mounted screen would have been a huge illegality, not like now seeing so many Asians watching TV while they drive - and that was in Adelaide! :crazy1:
Now I wouldn't know what to do to Firty. :confused:
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Thanks for all the replies gents! :goodjob:
3 metres should be fine then, as Dazz mentioned you could hard wire it to the power for the reading lights, if you not comfortable doing that a auto electrician wouldn't charge much for that or possibly even add an extra power socket.
Thanks CraigB :goodjob:
What are the benefits of wiring it to the reading lights, besides less of a mission to run the cable?
I've got the A118 on wife's car and the Street Guardian on mine. The A118 isn't very good at night, the Street Guardian is excellent.
Thanks! I do very little driving at night so it hopefully shouldn't be a problem. Many of these dashcams have no aperture specified for the camera itself so it is difficult to judge the amount of light it detects.
Mine uses a micro USB 5m that goes down the a pillar and into the fuse box. I wired a spare cigarette lighter to an add-a-fuse and plugged a 12V to USB into that. I can easily remove it if I have a problem or the car is going in for something to do with warranty. However as this has now finished I continue to have it that way. I bought a 12V to double USB and my GPS plugs into that as well. No visible wires.
That fuse kit looks exactly like what I need! I will see if I can find them locally as this would immensely simplify the installation and avoids cutting and splicing wires :D
I have the setting positions set for both our cars, but haven't addressed the wiring and I'm so over it and I haven't even started yet. :'(
Where do you chaps get your enthusiasm from :question:
The pain, the pain :exclaim:
I see it as an excuse to spend more time in the i30 as I enjoy it so much. I'd sleep inside her but the neighbours might judge me a bit too much :p
Seeing the i30 is such a good car there is nothing else to do to them except fiddle with things like dash cams. :snigger: mind you the novelty wears off and you soon forget them. Now what can I fiddle with next ? Maybe best if you don't answer that. :lol:
I concur! My colleagues always spend so much time fixing their cars that I have to think of something so that I can do the same :D
PS: next step for me - Heads-up display running off my OBD port :)
Back in 1983 I fitted a 5 inch TV to my Commodore, built neatly into a faux leather trimmed armrest between the front seats. Back then a dash mounted screen would have been a huge illegality, not like now seeing so many Asians watching TV while they drive - and that was in Adelaide! :crazy1:
Now I wouldn't know what to do to Firty. :confused:
Do you still have some pics of that install perhaps? I know that is from the era before digital cameras and all, but surely you must have the negative film roll somewhere ;)
The amount of people seen multitasking whilst driving is appalling...from sitting on their cellphones, to shaving or putting on makeup or eating, it surprises me that there aren't more accidents...
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No chance of pictures from back then. :lol:
As for stealing 12V, I dismantled a cheap cigarette lighter USB adapter and piggybacked it to the rear connections on the power socket under the aircon control, then ran a microUSB cable through and behind the head unit to the top flip lid pocket where I set up my GPS unit as a permanently wired-in solution. There should be a thread on it somewhere. :victory:
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This old thread (https://i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=9948.0) might be worth a read, Wabbit... :undecided:
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Back in 1983 I fitted a 5 inch TV to my Commodore
5 inches was big back then, but not any more. :)
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Back in 1983 I fitted a 5 inch TV to my Commodore
5 inches was big back then, but not any more. :)
It's evolutionary, Dave :lol:
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Thanks chaps!
I'm trying to source one of those Add-A-Circuit thingies locally and if I can get here then I will probably go ahead and order the camera (I decided on the A118-C in the end) and post back once I have it!
Also, only 5 inches? ...how do you guys manage to hit the toilet bowl? :whistler:
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Thanks chaps!
I'm trying to source one of those Add-A-Circuit thingies locally and if I can get here then I will probably go ahead and order the camera (I decided on the A118-C in the end) and post back once I have it!
Also, only 5 inches? ...how do you guys manage to hit the toilet bowl? :whistler:
They probably sit down. :rofl:
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Also, only 5 inches? ...how do you guys manage to hit the toilet bowl? :whistler:
Hitting it isn't a problem, getting it into the bowl is... :D
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:lol: :lol:
Thanks for the previously mentioned thread, Rusty. It seems pretty doable except for the splicing of wires that I am not the world's greatest fan of :sweating:
I haven't found any leads on Add-A-Circuit kits locally but will continue to try and find some
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Saw this on sale today in one of those "nearly" 99p shops but on sale @ £9.99
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Super-Legend-HD-Vehicle-Recorder/dp/B005Q6CJI4
Went in to check it out and looked the business.
Woukd have to buy a 32 sd card which if a good one would cost twice the price of the cam!
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:lol: I'd jump at that!
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It seems pretty doable except for the splicing of wires that I am not the world's greatest fan of :sweating:
Very easy to do using wire-tap connectors... :D
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/rustynutz69/Wire-Tap%20Connector_zps395nygem.gif~original)
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Cheats never prosper. :lol:
As an electronics technician, I shudder at the sight of them, due to the mechanical weakening they impose on the parent cable, but yes, very easy for quick jobs if the bulkiness can be tucked out of sight. :victory:
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That is a very low price. I have the following dash cam fitted, it is an excellent camera but the cost is so much more . Same look though. I will have to study the specifications to see the differences. The street Guardian is allegedly Australian designed.
:link: SG9665GC V2 ? FULL HD GPS DVR (https://streetguardian.info/sg9665gc-full-hd-gps-dvr.html)
John, the SG9665GC V2 is probably the best on the market ( should be a V3 released soon :) ), it has the newer Novatek processor 96655 as opposed to the 96650 and uses the Sony CMOS sensor rather than the Aptina CMOS.
SG also has their SGZC12SG V2 – PRO SERIES CAMERA which has amazing spec's but the price might put you a foetal position :D
Interesting read. Thanks all for all the reports & insights in this thread.
My company car is off the road after being rear ended last week. First time I've had a close encounter resulting in vehicle damage since getting my licence in 1978!
Not thinking my luck is running out or anything, but I been thinking a dash cam aint a bad toy to have!
I looked at many, mainly high end 2ch units. Got a crazy price of $739 including installation for what seems a pretty good unit, the IRoad V9 front & rear system. That is just over the top $.
Since then, I been thinking me bothering about rear cam views & parking monitoring is probly not really going to be a good ROI. I figure that car park incidents will seldom record a redgo plate for front or rear hits & never for side on hits. Therefore dash cams would be of little use given the odds of being hit & I seldomly park in crowded parks.
However, for out on the road stuff I certainly see the value in having a top quality front dash cam.
I really like the Street Guardian SG9665GC V2 – FULL HD GPS DVR seems an all round good product with well reputed local support. There is a new version of it about to go on sale... I might just hold off a little while.
I'm planning an extensive road trip early in Jan so hoping to have something sorted by then :-)
Any further recommendations would be appreciated.
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Xmas pressie :exclaim:
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@ edagrade. You wont go wrong with the Street Guardian SG 9665GC V2 I am very pleased with mine and the back up is excellent. :goodjob2:
I bought mine from here at a good price :link: CRASH CAMERAS - Street Guardian Crash Cameras - www.strathfieldcarradios.com.au (http://www.strathfieldcarradios.com.au/street-guardian-crash-cameras/?sort=priceasc)
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@ edagrade. You wont go wrong with the Street Guardian SG 9665GC V2 I am very pleased with mine and the back up is excellent. :goodjob2:
I bought mine from here at a good price :link: CRASH CAMERAS - Street Guardian Crash Cameras - [url=http://www.strathfieldcarradios.com.au]:link: Car Audio | GPS | Cameras | Strathfield | Official Online Store (http://www.strathfieldcarradios.com.au/street-guardian-crash-cameras/?sort=priceasc)[/i][/url]
Thanks for the link John B.
Price is pretty good really, although earlier comments from you in this thread indicate the product was expensive. To me it represents value.
A bunch of questions if you don't mind please...
Is your unit hardwired?
Would you mind posting a pic of the camera mounted please?
Do you wish for a dual cam setup instead?
Do you run a bigger SD card or just the 32Gb it was shipped with?
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@ edagrade. You wont go wrong with the Street Guardian SG 9665GC V2 I am very pleased with mine and the back up is excellent. :goodjob2:
I bought mine from here at a good price :link: CRASH CAMERAS - Street Guardian Crash Cameras - [url=http://www.strathfieldcarradios.com.au]:link: Car Audio | GPS | Cameras | Strathfield | Official Online Store (http://www.strathfieldcarradios.com.au/street-guardian-crash-cameras/?sort=priceasc)[/i][/url]
Thanks for the link John B.
Price is pretty good really, although earlier comments from you in this thread indicate the product was expensive. To me it represents value.
A bunch of questions if you don't mind please...
Is your unit hardwired?
Would you mind posting a pic of the camera mounted please?
Do you wish for a dual cam setup instead?
Do you run a bigger SD card or just the 32Gb it was shipped with?
No problem. My unit is not hardwired I just plugged it into the power point and ran the wire through the tray under the the dash to the left side up the door pillar under the rubber seal and under the roof lining to the camera that is fitted to the left of the mirror. The reason I mounted the camera to the left is because the mirror is tilted to the right and there is more room on the left to get the camera more in the centre. Just make sure you leave enough space for the adjustment knob , it is also easier to get the card out if fitted on the left. The photo you have on this thread is how mine is mounted but on the left. I have a mini dash cam fitted in the rear as I felt it would be easier to just run the wiring under the tailgate plate and through the convoluted rubber that takes other wiring and then under the roof lining down to the covering at the right side of the boot area where the power outlet is, I removed the cover and spliced a cigarette lighter into the wiring to the power point I then pugged the camera in and replaced the cover.I did this to save having the camera power plug poking out into the boot. I just use the 32Gb card as this will cover what I require. Hope this all makes sense and helps. There are other post that show the wiring going up the door pillar just search dash cams. Lots of cheap cameras out there but as you say this camera is good value for the money,also great for our Australian heat . Dash cam forum is very good for info.
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Great reply thanks John B.
My i30 SR Premium has the moisture/humidity sensor & auto wiper rain sensor cluttering the real estate near the rear view mirror, so I will need to be sure I don't mess with the functionality of that stuff or obscure view the light sensor for the auto dimming rear view mirror. Extra stuff to think about :eek:
What sort of 'mini dash cam' for the rear are you using?
Is it mounted internally to the rear window?
Hard wiring an outlet behind the rear trim for it is a good idea.
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Last week my wife and I were returning home from Lincolnshire when we were seriously tailgated by a white van - the driver of which was holding a phone to his ear in one hand and gesticulating with the other. Thus driving with no hands on the steering wheel. It was a single carriageway with a 50 mph limit. It was pouring with rain and there were regular patches of standing water so I was doing between 40 and 45 mph. He kept up this behaviour for about 2 miles. I operated the rear window wiper to ensure my rear camera got a good video of his dangerous behaviour. The road eventually became dual carriageway and he overtook and sped away, soon lost in a cloud of spray.
We decided to divert to Melton Mobray to buy some of our favourite pork pies - which added about 30 minutes to the journey. I now regret it.
As soon as we got home I removed the 32 GB SD card from the camera and plugged it into my PC - determined to copy the video onto a memory stick and send it to the police. (As I have done before you may recall)
Shock, horror, buggeration - the file had been over-written only 25 minutes before we got home. The 32GB card was recording in HD video and I had missed the section I needed by a whisker.
Hence I replaced the 32 GB card in my rear dash cam with a 64 GB one which has to be formatted with FAT32 - something Windows 10 refuses to do. I had to use 3rd party software to do it.
I obtained the software from here..
http://dod-tech.co.uk/supportcenter/formatting-64gb-microsdxc-cards-for-dod-tech-cameras/#PC (http://dod-tech.co.uk/supportcenter/formatting-64gb-microsdxc-cards-for-dod-tech-cameras/#PC)
I also formatted a second 64 GB card with FAT32, put it into a small plastic case and stuck it in the glove compartment of the car. I am thus better prepared for the next time I need to take the card out of the camera after an incident.
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Your story AlanHo kind of plays out my concern of capturing & storing events events on long journeys, especially with a dedicated rear camera as its not practical to reach back & press a save button to lock the event away in a file. I imagine a 2ch system would save both channels when button is pressed?
Interesting about Win10 not working with FAT32 formatting.
It seems data storage to SD cards & older file formats is quickly becoming outmoded. What is the next best thing... solid state storage & wifi or USB to upload the data to another device?
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Win10 will read a FAT32 card - but will not format a card above 32 GB in that format - it used EXFAT. If I use a 64 GB card formatted in EXFAT the DOD Dash Cam only uses the first 32GB.
I will now keep a spare SD card in the car and if an incident takes place that I wish to keep - I will stop the car when convenient and swap the cards.
Sooner or later a tiny dash cam will be launched that is just a zoom lens (Fitted with a circular polarising filter), sensor and circuitry to WiFi the video stream to a fixed VRC in the car with a 1TB hard drive mounted in a caddy. The VCR being able to record from front and rear cameras simultaneously. ARE YOU READING THIS DOD.
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Alan on my camera I can push a button that will save that frame if an event occurs so it will not be overwritten . True you would have to pull over some where safe to do it , not a fan of someone who is driving trying find the button to push. If you have a passenger show them what button to push if required. :goodjob2:
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edagrade . The Mini dash cam I use on the rear is the one in the following link. My rear dash cam is not attached to the window but to the panel above by 3M adhesive strip. I did use a plastic bracket with adjustment on it to lower the camera to the correct height. The rear camera is not hardwired as the adaptor plug supplied with the camera is plugged into the socket ( behind the panel ) that I hard wired into the original wires running to the i30 rear socket . I insulated the socket behind the panel and velcroed it to make sure it did not move ( just in case ) This does not effect using the i30 socket on the outside of the boot panel if required. I think even if you have a dual camera you will still have to pull over to push the save button for the front and the rear, in doing so it would be no problem to push the save button on the rear camera. It has worked well for me. Even with a bigger card you could be unlucky to have it over wriiten if it is full. These are just my thoughts and personal choice. Could be a problem with extra things on your front screen, the only thing is the camera is a lot smaller than it looks on the adverts :goodjob2:
http://dashcamsaustralia.com.au/shop/dashcams/dashcams-australia/mini-0805-gps/ (http://dashcamsaustralia.com.au/shop/dashcams/dashcams-australia/mini-0805-gps/)
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Seems a great setup for the rear John B!
I figure yours is a Mini 0805? It would do fine as a front cam too!
I'm reluctant to stick a cam to the rear glass too due to the window tint. I kinda think it might be an idea to mount a camera to the hood lining. That would save running wires through to the hatch. Would the 200mm or so between the camera & glass make for a lousy video?
There is soo much to consider. This makes it a challenge for those like me who really wanna 'work it all out' before a purchase :crazy1:
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Are there any good-value mirror-integrated models or are they still gimmicky and expensive? It's nice to have your rear view mirror magicaly become a viewscreen when reversing or playing back forward vision.
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@ edagrade. Correct, mine is a Mini 0805 that I used to have at the front until I went for the Street Guardian. I did not attach it to the rear window because of the tint and rear demister . I felt that it might be a bit too far back if attached to the hood lining also I think it would be hanging quite low and could get knocked when placing something tall in the cargo area, not a problem if fitted to cargo rear door panel . I set my camera up so that the lens was aimed between the lines of the demister element easy to do when attached to the panel on the rear cargo door. The Mini 0805 has worked well in my i30. I am still a bit wary as the Mini 0805 has a battery, not good in the Queensland heat. Took me a while to come up with my set up but got a lot of help from Dash cam talk. Have a look on there as they have a forum for the Street Guardian and the Mini cameras plus diagrams and photos to help. :goodjob2:
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Are there any good-value mirror-integrated models or are they still gimmicky and expensive? It's nice to have your rear view mirror magicaly become a viewscreen when reversing or playing back forward vision.
My brother had one fitted ( not sure of the model ) and complained there were to many reflections and could not see a clear image, he ended up sending it back and getting his money back . This of course could differ with different models. Maybe some of the other guys on here may have more knowledge of them.
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Some Toyota Vans have the reversing camera in the mirror. It makes for a fairly small display because it only uses part of the mirror to keep the aspect ratio of the camera (not super clear either)
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Thanks all for your insights & sharing your experience - it really is priceless :goodjob2:
I'll pay more attention to the DashCamTalk site to help me figure it all out.
I share your concern about dash cam batteries & heat - another good reason to favour SG.
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The SG9665GC V3 is now available - incremental changes over the V2.
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The SG9665GC V3 is now available - incremental changes over the V2.
V3 for $249 on Strathfields . That's a good price . I see that includes the CPL now :D, had to pay $40 for my CPL when I bought my V2. :'(
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or $399 from SG Oz for a 128Gb card - that is dear!
Seems SG are working on dual cam products also - kinda keen to see what that is about.
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or $399 from SG Oz for a 128Gb card - that is dear!
Seems SG are working on dual cam products also - kinda keen to see what that is about.
Big price difference seeing Strathfields include a 32 gb card in that price. The dual cam will be interesting I will keep a lookout for that one.
:link: CRASH CAMERAS - Street Guardian Crash Cameras - www.strathfieldcarradios.com.au (http://www.strathfieldcarradios.com.au/street-guardian-crash-cameras/?sort=priceasc)
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I'm looking at the Nextbase Duo.... I like the thought of having a rear camera also, but having it all in one unit keeps things a bit neater (and it's a lot cheaper than true 2 channel solutions / more usable than two completely separate units).
I just wish it was full HD or better, but it's only 720P front & rear.
I'd also seen the Vantrue N2 Dual that's similar and is 1080P front & 720P rear - but that requires a separate GPS module (not a major issue) and then records a lot of what's in the car at the rear. The Nextbase Duo has a zoom lens on the rear camera so that it can at least concentrate/focus on what's behind you, which is what you want from a dash cam unless you're a taxi driver....
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Interesting post MrWB .. I would have to do some research on these to see how they manage to capture the rear view when the car is full of passengers. :undecided:
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Yeah the Nextbase Duo seems nifty. I really think rear vision is going to be pretty compromised, especially when installed in hatchbacks.
Seriously, in mainstream dashcams, the hardware & storage media currently used needs a quantum upgrade to get away from SD card hassles or flaky wifi to phone apps etc.
To my mind, an underdash powered central processing unit with a solidstate flash drive able to upload via USB (or wifi), 2 remote cameras with 1080P & 30Frames per second can't be that hard or expensive to bring to market?
Surely emergency services & police use better technologies with their dashcams etc than what is on offer from even the best of mainstream dashcam providers??
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Yeah the Nextbase Duo seems nifty. I really think rear vision is going to be pretty compromised, especially when installed in hatchbacks.
Seriously, in mainstream dashcams, the hardware & storage media currently used needs a quantum upgrade to get away from SD card hassles or flaky wifi to phone apps etc.
To my mind, an underdash powered central processing unit with a solidstate flash drive able to upload via USB (or wifi), 2 remote cameras with 1080P & 30Frames per second can't be that hard or expensive to bring to market?
Surely emergency services & police use better technologies with their dashcams etc than what is on offer from even the best of mainstream dashcam providers??
Your scenario sounds awesome, but no doubt they would want an arm and a leg for something like that. Make it in China for under$100 then sell it retail for $800 or something! :rolleyes:
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yes, I might put my 'scenario' on to one of the dashcam forums... just for giggles.
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Seriously, in mainstream dashcams, the hardware & storage media currently used needs a quantum upgrade to get away from SD card hassles or flaky wifi to phone apps etc.
To my mind, an underdash powered central processing unit with a solidstate flash drive able to upload via USB (or wifi), 2 remote cameras with 1080P & 30Frames per second can't be that hard or expensive to bring to market?
Surely emergency services & police use better technologies with their dashcams etc than what is on offer from even the best of mainstream dashcam providers??
Your scenario sounds awesome, but no doubt they would want an arm and a leg for something like that. Make it in China for under$100 then sell it retail for $800 or something! :rolleyes:
I agree - this would be awesome, and really wouldn't cost that much to manufacture. I'm guessing it would cost a lot to buy though because it would be positioned at a price point above more basic offerings, and also probably touted at fleets, haulage, etc - eg businesses willing to pay more than most individuals - as well as hobbyists (again people willing to pay more than most)....
I have just plunged for the Nextbase Duo though, should arrive at some point today. Looking forward to having a play! :)
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I have just plunged for the Nextbase Duo though, should arrive at some point today. Looking forward to having a play! :)
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There is talk of SG releasing soon a new dual camera setup. I'm holding off purchase till I see what that is about.
I was thinking to get a cam before my Cairns trip in Jan, but haven't been convinced the SG9665GC is the 'right' choice for me.
Given that I do more kms in my company car, I'm leaning towards having a dual camera setup wired/installed for both company & private cars, swapping over the hardware from each vehicle as required.
By the way, today I got my company car back from panel beaters. Bye bye to the Kia Cerato loan car - it wasn't a bad car actually!