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Title: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on November 18, 2016, 10:41:27
OK, guys, I'm still overseas and a month away from getting Firty out from under her cover and off her jackstands.

This long and far away from her my brain has gone to mush and I fear it all turning to custard on the 22nd of December.

- I expect the only sensible thing to do is to give her a new dose of oil there and then while she is still off the floor in the shed and before cranking her over, so I'll have to:

- - take whatever oil SuperCheap has suitable,
- - be prepared for the Diesel conditioner additive to have given out and drain and fill,
- - be prepared for a dead battery and have another ready,

- Within two weeks (across Christmas  :crazy1:) if not ahead of time I'll need to source the Aranda towbar and fit it in order to fill a trailer with stuff that's still in Adelaide, for the drive to Melbourne.

So, to all the FD i30 pundits and experts out there (Hello @Phil №❶ / @cruiserfied  :clapping:), what am I forgetting?

Responses in English, Indonesian or Spanish gratefully accepted. :whistler:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Phil №❶ on November 18, 2016, 11:01:06
Pity it's not a petrol engine as I would be pre-lubricating the cylinders with a little oil through the plug holes first but that is not possible.  Subject to @cruiserfied's approval, there may be an appoved aerosol lube you could inject into the inlet manifold, after the air cleaner to do the same thing. I thought you had the battery on continuous charge  :exclaim:

Can't think of anything else. Don't worry, she'll be right. :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: asathorny on November 18, 2016, 11:02:42
Very wise, oil degrades whether or not it is being used, so changing the oil is a must  :goodjob:

good luck although I am sure luck will play no part in the restart  :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: cruiserfied on November 18, 2016, 11:11:58
You've about got it covered i recon.
I agree with Phil about some oil in the cylinders before startup. I would remove the glowplugs and put a bit in through there (if your game trying to remove them) turn it over a few times by hand before refitting glowplugs and don't be too worried about a bit of smoke on startup.
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Dazzler on November 18, 2016, 21:34:48
Good luck Gonz!  :sweating:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: eye30 on November 18, 2016, 22:06:00
Just to be safe...... allow herindoors to gave firty first turn of the key........and you should stand well back.....

Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: tw2005 on November 18, 2016, 23:51:11
You've about got it covered i recon.
I agree with Phil about some oil in the cylinders before startup. I would remove the glowplugs and put a bit in through there (if your game trying to remove them) turn it over a few times by hand before refitting glowplugs and don't be too worried about a bit of smoke on startup.

Us Aussies have it covered.

First for the injectors

(http://i.imgur.com/R7pZdzE.jpg)

Then maybe some threats letting Frugal Firty know if it misbehaves it'll cop some medicine.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cY1YndLmbXQ/mqdefault.jpg)

Probably not for diesels though

Maybe something more refined

(https://efangelist.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/start-ya-bastard.png)

But I think this could get something  started too.

(http://mediaserver.dwpub.com/press-release/7875/SYBgirls.jpg)
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Doggie 1 on November 19, 2016, 02:33:27
Yes, I have used Start Ya Bastard a few times in my life.  :)
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on November 19, 2016, 06:35:01
Thanks, guys. I emailed my son for some help and advice and am hoping he'll get involved in the effort (he's a Holden dealership trained motor mechanic).

If only to source oil filter, oil and any specific tools I'll need on the day and ahead of the Christmas paralysis, I'd be happy for his help. I could do it all online and paid so he just gets it, I guess.

So I've read 5W30 full synthetic is the way to go? Is that a sweet spot for price/spec? I'm assuming 0W40 is just better but unrealistically expensive, right?
Any hot tips on the right oil filter? Happy to deal with eBay types while in Spain to have it ready on time.
Tools for oil filter removal and sump plug? Something any mechanic would have or is there anything special?
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: beerman on November 19, 2016, 06:59:08
obviously the oil filter has to go, but what about the diesel filter?

If so this might be of interest

:link: GENUINE HYUNDAI i30 DIESEL FILTER KIT (AIR+OIL+FUEL)FD,GD2 1.6L WITH TAXINVOICE | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GENUINE-HYUNDAI-i30-DIESEL-FILTER-KIT-AIR-OIL-FUEL-FD-GD2-1-6L-WITH-TAXINVOICE-/271700482693?fits=Make%3AHyundai%7CModel%3Ai30&hash=item3f429c5a85:g:-ZMAAOSwPRlXmwMl)

Otherwise, this is cheapest (unless you want 3, then there is a guy with 3 for $69.90 that I usually use)

:link: GENUINE HYUNDAI I30 HATCHBACK 1.6L CRDI DIESEL ALL MODEL OIL FILTER 1EA | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GENUINE-HYUNDAI-I30-HATCHBACK-1-6L-CRDI-DIESEL-ALL-MODEL-OIL-FILTER-1EA-/262539834057?fits=Make%3AHyundai%7CModel%3Ai30&hash=item3d2097f2c9:g:23MAAOSw54xUXwJD)
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on November 19, 2016, 07:08:34
I do like to save through a bit of bulk buying, so the threesome* I would favour. Please share and I'll get it going. :happydance: :hatoff:

Thanks for the head start with the Diesel filter. Never would have come to mind. Firty has 86,000 km and 7 years, so unless I'm told otherwise, I'll do that, too. :victory:

*no lewd remarks ,guys :crazy1:

EDIT: Oh, I just noticed the kit is a ... full kit - oh yes, that's just perfect. :winker:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: beerman on November 19, 2016, 07:11:27
That being the case mate, the first link is air/oil/diesel filters for around $90.

If your that close to 90k might as well do the service in my humble opinion.

Here is the link for the bulk buy $69.99

:link: 3 X GENUINE HYUNDAI i30 DIESEL OIL FILTER CARTRIDGE WITH TAX INVOICE | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/272084008205?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: CraigB on November 19, 2016, 08:07:36
Gonz, is it cheaper for your son to order the whole kit through his workshop at wholesale cost :undecided: he's Holden but they do service all vehicles.

A 5W-30 or 5W-40 are the best viscosities for your car, 5W-30 will be slightly more expensive but has better fuel saving advantages.
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on November 19, 2016, 08:13:41
Thanks, Craig. I'll ask. I didn't think about any savings through dealer ordering. :goodjob:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on November 23, 2016, 03:01:32
Son has continued to be typically absent in my inbox.  :'(
$92 well spent, goods arriving in the next week at the outlaws. :goodjob:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: sundiz on November 23, 2016, 04:19:00
Brakes do not usually like when car has not been moving. When I bought my car it had been standing for few months in the dealership. Front discs were so rusted and the pads were slightly seized that they had to replace the front brakes before they gave the car to me.
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: CraigB on November 23, 2016, 05:27:18
Brakes do not usually like when car has not been moving. When I bought my car it had been standing for few months in the dealership. Front discs were so rusted and the pads were slightly seized that they had to replace the front brakes before they gave the car to me.
That's what happens when cars are left out in the weather unused, I think Gonz's car is tucked away under cover having a nice sleep :)
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Lakes on November 23, 2016, 08:28:58
Gonz , that great little CRDi FD would never let u down M8!!!
Good luck, i've used tbe WD40 in plug hole many times also have adjusted push rods off to leave  motor stand without valve springs  compressed but she has OHC still the oil i  bore a good thi g just turn her o ed go pump it out b4 firing up. I would warm her up with oil she has in now the  drain it give oil change put new battery i  as cheap & better than putting work load on regulator
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on November 24, 2016, 13:59:12
So now the seller has taken my money but withheld the product until I provide a VIN :crazy1:

Firty's in storage in a different country! :crazy1:

Apparently a 2009 1.6 CRDi SLX has more than one type of oil filter. :crazy2:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: sundiz on November 24, 2016, 19:02:32
I think there are 2 different filters. 120mm and 104mm  versions. I bought wrong size, when not paying attention in the shop. Had taken oil out and started to wonder why the new filter did not fit the housing...
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Asterix on November 24, 2016, 19:12:48
So now the seller has taken my money but withheld the product until I provide a VIN :crazy1:

Firty's in storage in a different country! :crazy1:

Apparently a 2009 1.6 CRDi SLX has more than one type of oil filter. :crazy2:

Don't you guy's down under have anywhere you can look up a car's VIN from the license plate..?
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: AlanHo on November 24, 2016, 22:36:33
So now the seller has taken my money but withheld the product until I provide a VIN :crazy1:

Firty's in storage in a different country! :crazy1:

Apparently a 2009 1.6 CRDi SLX has more than one type of oil filter. :crazy2:

Is there not anyone who can access the car's paperwork.  In the UK the VIN No is stated on the original registration document.
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Shambles on November 24, 2016, 22:46:19
Isn't it also stamped on the chassis, visible from a viewport in the windscreen? Maybe someone could do a screengrab of that.
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: eye30 on November 24, 2016, 22:48:26
Or by quoting the reg number will id the correct part.

(Well it does in uk)
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Dazzler on November 25, 2016, 00:21:22
Ring the dealer you bought it from Gonz they should be able to get it from your rego.
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on November 25, 2016, 00:35:20
I emailed the storage manager to look. Still no response. :blubber:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: tw2005 on December 03, 2016, 12:13:27
I emailed the storage manager to look. Still no response. :blubber:

I could just give you mine however is this seller being a tosspot or what? All i30 D4FB post 19 feb 2008 right up to the end 2012 they have 263202A500 or in RYCO speak R2695P

Where are you getting this gear from?

I have a 30 Sep 2008 build  and a 24 mar 2010 build , both have 263202A500
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: tw2005 on December 03, 2016, 12:29:57
So now the seller has taken my money but withheld the product until I provide a VIN :crazy1:

Firty's in storage in a different country! :crazy1:

Apparently a 2009 1.6 CRDi SLX has more than one type of oil filter. :crazy2:

Don't you guy's down under have anywhere you can look up a car's VIN from the license plate..?

varies state to state but in Queensland you can get the VIN from the REG, In South Australia you can't, In Victoria you can get every detail, VIN engine number etc, in New South Wales it will reveal the last 4 characters but you can handover $22 for a full report, no surprise there, Western Australia shows just the expiry as too Northern Territory, Tasmania give engine number no VIN, ACT only last 4 characters on both engine nmber and VIN
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: tw2005 on December 03, 2016, 18:31:54
AC DELCO AC0113 equivalent to  263202A500 or  RYCO  R2695
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: tw2005 on December 03, 2016, 19:27:00
28mm socket for oil filter cap removal.

REPCO have 40% off Penrite this weekend if you can muster the troops to pick up if you have not got the oil yet. Also 30% off batteries

I use 10W40 . I think given it's summer and pretty high ambients doing long distance I'go with xW40 plus both of mine  are ove 170k

Valvoline and Penrite show 5W-40 as preferred

The manual shows the 5W30 and 10w30 capping out at 40c

Mobil suggests 0W40,5W40
Shell 5w30,
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Doggie 1 on December 04, 2016, 22:58:42
REPCO have 40% off Penrite this weekend if you can muster the troops to pick up if you have not got the oil yet. Also 30% off batteries

Send me the money, Gonz and I'll buy some for you!   :D
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on December 06, 2016, 14:14:32
Thanks, Dave, but you know I don't like to impose. I'll just revisit the offer of the week when I get there. :goodjob:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: CraigB on December 06, 2016, 14:56:45
Gonz, you can always get Shell Ultra for $44 from Blackwoods, there should be a store close to your new residence https://www.blackwoods.com.au/about-us/branch-locations?state=VIC (https://www.blackwoods.com.au/about-us/branch-locations?state=VIC)
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: beerman on December 06, 2016, 22:20:31
Did you solve the vin issue?

I have the warranty sheet from the Wife's car if you need a vin.
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on December 13, 2016, 20:21:38
Son got me the VIN from the storage manager. Funny thing with the odd email from ebay / aliexpress requesting more proof of identity scans.

A few days after I responded by saying that they can shove their order, but only after uploading some random image repeatedly in order to complete the form and send them my words of disgust, I get a reply thanking me for my proofs of docs (ID, credit card, passport, etc) and that I can continue to buy from them.

Sounds suss, eh?
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Shambles on December 13, 2016, 20:25:01
walk away...
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: AlanHo on December 13, 2016, 20:27:45
Gonz - don't deal with them - give me your credit card number, expiry date, security number etc and I will get you stuffed your stuff, for a nominal fee.


Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on December 13, 2016, 20:30:26
Steve, I did, BEFORE I got the email about needing more proof of ID. I already had confirmation of the order before that.

Alan, thanks, I'll send you the same scans I sent them. :lol:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Doggie 1 on December 14, 2016, 08:51:58
walk away...

Renee.
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on December 21, 2016, 23:43:46
Folks, I need online support, now at Storage King Beverley. Where is the injection rail relay connector so I can cycle oil without starting?
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: AlanHo on December 22, 2016, 10:32:28
This is possibly a daft idea - but could you not jack one front wheel off the ground - put it into gear and rotate the engine several rotations to ensure it is freed up.

I'll get me coat......... :wacko:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Shambles on December 22, 2016, 10:42:01
Quote from: The Gonz
... Where is the injection rail relay connector so I can cycle oil without starting?

Probably too late for you now, but just uncouple the injector block connector

(http://i.imgur.com/ODNBDTt.jpg)
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: tw2005 on December 22, 2016, 10:57:12
I can confirm  Fuse No. 11 in the engine bay fuse box 10amp if removed it definitely won't start, at least mine did not when it blew with the  gearbox sensor harness shorting.
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Dazzler on December 22, 2016, 11:15:36
I sent Gonz a Facebook message but he hasn't answered yet! His Mobile number has changed....  :Pout:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on December 22, 2016, 22:46:42
CHANGED???

We've lost our sims, chauffeur, maid, gardener, security guards, we don't even have an address anymore :crazy1:

All we have now is an ininsured, unregistered Firty happily running on new oil, filters , original battery and Oct 2015 fuel  :happydance:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: asathorny on December 22, 2016, 22:52:49
Oh no, who's gonna wash the dishes <sigh>    :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on December 23, 2016, 00:19:41
As I messaged Dazz this morning once I discovered a neighbour's open wifi  :whistler: I must sing the praises of the Stabil I used to keep the tankful of Diesel fresh. The bottle says that it's good for 6 months so I just doubled the dose.  :whistler:

It was really very nice to see Firty again, all shiny under the cover and smelling all new and milky from the genuine lambswool covers, just how I left her. :DoubleKiss:

An interesting aside is that my son informed me yesterday that the four SuperCheap jack stands I had used to keep Firty's tyres airborne (and handy for the oil change) are subject to a recall! :Shocked:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: eye30 on December 23, 2016, 09:59:13




An interesting aside is that my son informed me yesterday that the four SuperCheap jack stands I had used to keep Firty's tyres airborne (and handy for the oil change) are subject to a recall! :Shocked:

Well that will be a weight off firty's mind

Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on December 23, 2016, 11:12:58




An interesting aside is that my son informed me yesterday that the four SuperCheap jack stands I had used to keep Firty's tyres airborne (and handy for the oil change) are subject to a recall! :Shocked:

Well that will be a weight off firty's mind
Well, they've served their purpose now. I suppose returning four recalled items to exchange them for two better ones is really a bonus. :victory:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on January 03, 2017, 01:02:18
What is (hopefully) the final chapter in Firty's revival story is the replacement of the OEM Solite MF64-26GL with a Yuasa NS70LBMF. The labelled CCA rating went up from 630 to 700, and the lower edge ridge is the fit needed for clamping when compared with the equivalent Century.

$210 from Battery World and on the road again. :goodjob:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Doggie 1 on January 03, 2017, 01:24:15
That's positive news!    :goodjob:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on January 05, 2017, 11:49:48
Firty's having to re-learn old tricks. This morning's 50 litres of fuel (35 from 2015, 15 from yesterday) registered as a range of just 660 km, although during the trip to Melbourne it covered 770 km and now registers 189 km remaining with the fuel gauge pointing at the 1/4 mark. :lol:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Dazzler on January 05, 2017, 18:04:08
 :goodjob:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: nzenigma on January 05, 2017, 20:04:48
Firty's having to re-learn old tricks. . :lol:

They do this to make sure you still love them. They enjoy the discipline , old routines, bonding etc.
 A regular pat on the bonnet is good, but not too much affection, you don't want her to roll over on her back .
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: beerman on January 05, 2017, 21:44:07




An interesting aside is that my son informed me yesterday that the four SuperCheap jack stands I had used to keep Firty's tyres airborne (and handy for the oil change) are subject to a recall! :Shocked:

I would have got a refund and bought more when I needed them. That really is a bonus  :cool:



Well that will be a weight off firty's mind


Well, they've served their purpose now. I suppose returning four recalled items to exchange them for two better ones is really a bonus. :victory:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Doggie 1 on January 05, 2017, 22:36:30
Firty's having to re-learn old tricks. . :lol:

They do this to make sure you still love them. They enjoy the discipline , old routines, bonding etc.
 A regular pat on the bonnet is good, but not too much affection, you don't want her to roll over on her back .

Does this work for women?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: nzenigma on January 06, 2017, 00:23:34
Only if your woman still wears a bonnet.  :)
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Dazzler on January 06, 2017, 05:28:59
 :lol: :goodjob:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on January 06, 2017, 06:52:03
Awesome association! :lol:

(http://www.artnet.com/WebServices/images/ll00015lldNuoGFgSTECfDrCWvaHBOcxODD/len-goldberg-smiling-blonde-woman-in-blue-bonnet-(illus.-for-blue-bonnet-butter).jpg)
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Dazzler on January 06, 2017, 09:57:02
Awesome association! :lol:

(http://www.artnet.com/WebServices/images/ll00015lldNuoGFgSTECfDrCWvaHBOcxODD/len-goldberg-smiling-blonde-woman-in-blue-bonnet-(illus.-for-blue-bonnet-butter).jpg)

I like what's under that bonnet (very pretty!) :victory:
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: Doggie 1 on January 06, 2017, 10:18:46
I prefer what's under the boot. 
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on January 06, 2017, 11:26:31
I prefer what's under the boot.
:eek:

(http://us.123rf.com/450wm/fineart/fineart1508/fineart150800029/44176126-human-boot-stepping-on-cow-shit-lying-on-mountain-path-near-signpost-close-up.jpg)
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: beerman on January 06, 2017, 12:26:39
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll120/Jessop78/VW/Beetle/Bonnet.jpg)

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/68autobug/2010%20VW%20NATIONALS/2010HERBIEREMOTECONTROL.jpg)
Title: Re: Jitters Over Firty's Revival
Post by: The Gonz on January 06, 2017, 13:26:28
I see the resemblance.  :rofl:
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