Post by: Dazzler on March 07, 2017, 22:54:54
We get these dark oily spots in our garage under the motor in Trish's 2014 i30 Tourer 1.6 GDi Petrol Manual.
It smells like oil and looks like oil! I clean it up every few weeks but it appears again. I put cardboard under the car once before for about a week and no oil got on that?
The car runs fine and although we forgot to mention it at the last service they didn't notice anything when they changed the oil.
The car runs fine, never needs oil between services and the gear changes are as smooth as silk. When I check the oil it is quite light and fresh (not really black like this!) :undecided:
Strange! Trish reckons it's coming up from under our slab! :snigger: :snigger: :snigger: :crazy1:
(http://i.imgur.com/MM382r4.jpg)
Post by: Phil №❶ on March 07, 2017, 23:11:12
Post by: Surferdude on March 07, 2017, 23:45:16
Under the slab, huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATAshDSEpos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATAshDSEpos)
Post by: mickd on March 08, 2017, 03:30:06
Could it be similar to how grease goes when gets hot and runs ??, but where would that be from? CV's ??
Post by: CraigB on March 08, 2017, 06:00:12
Post by: Doggie 1 on March 08, 2017, 06:43:08
Post by: Dazzler on March 08, 2017, 06:47:02
Nice slippers.I included them for scale...
Under the slab, huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATAshDSEpos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATAshDSEpos)
Trish was thinking more Beverley hillbillies. ..
Post by: Dazzler on March 08, 2017, 06:51:29
Do Trishes kids ever park in their when your not around Dazz :undecided: either that or her secret lovers carI initially thought that but if anything, Dee may have parked on my side of the garage a couple of times, but Trish's car is always in the garage if Dee is here. Maybe it's my girlfriend's car! Hope Trish doesn't cotton on! :eek:
Post by: CraigB on March 08, 2017, 06:53:19
Post by: tw2005 on March 08, 2017, 06:56:56
does the colour of the oil match the colour from the sump?
Is the car parked in the same location all the time? They seem scattered?
Evidence from under neath of leaks?
If you had to pick a rough proximity these drips align to with the car, where would that be? Left, centre, right? forward , rearward?
They apper thick and sooty, could it be oil seeping out of the intercooler hose(loose hoses) ? I've noticed oil seems to accumalate on there and is quite sooty and thick?
Post by: AlanHo on March 08, 2017, 07:08:28
Post by: tw2005 on March 08, 2017, 07:22:59
Questions:OK, why don't you have a diesel? Thought you always had CRDi?
does the colour of the oil match the colour from the sump?
Is the car parked in the same location all the time? They seem scattered?
Evidence from under neath of leaks?
If you had to pick a rough proximity these drips align to with the car, where would that be? Left, centre, right? forward , rearward?
They apper thick and sooty, could it be oil seeping out of the intercooler hose(loose hoses) ? I've noticed oil seems to accumalate on there and is quite sooty and thick?
Post by: Dazzler on March 08, 2017, 08:31:39
Questions:OK, why don't you have a diesel? Thought you always had CRDi?
does the colour of the oil match the colour from the sump?
Is the car parked in the same location all the time? They seem scattered?
Evidence from under neath of leaks?
If you had to pick a rough proximity these drips align to with the car, where would that be? Left, centre, right? forward , rearward?
They apper thick and sooty, could it be oil seeping out of the intercooler hose(loose hoses) ? I've noticed oil seems to accumalate on there and is quite sooty and thick?
The first i30 we had was a Diesel FD hatch (and I loved it) It was my car and I do 25 to 30K a year. I went to a couple of Hybrids and a Calais (we wanted something bigger as our main car)
The wife only does 6 to 8K a year so couldn't justify the extra for a diesel. :Pout:
It is sooty and thick (very much unlike the oil on the dipstick which is almost as light as maple syrup)
Our Garage is quite large more than 7 metres x 7 metres so the car might be a foot either way or a foot further forward or backwards at any time...
I've been down and taken some photos of under the car in relation to the oil spots. Fairly central not far behind the radiator?
I'll edit and add the photos shortly. :goodjob:
Post by: CraigB on March 08, 2017, 08:41:04
Could it be steering rack or a weeping grease nipple :undecided:
Post by: Surferdude on March 08, 2017, 08:47:15
Yep.Nice slippers.I included them for scale...
Under the slab, huh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATAshDSEpos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATAshDSEpos)
Trish was thinking more Beverley hillbillies. ..
I pulled the wrong link. :-[
Post by: Dazzler on March 08, 2017, 08:50:08
Wide angle for position and a closeup. What is that where the bolt is? Seems to be a bit of oil there maybe?
(http://i.imgur.com/OEjGTJT.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2T6o4Xj.jpg)
Post by: Shambles on March 08, 2017, 08:57:31
Post by: Dazzler on March 08, 2017, 09:06:32
Don't suppose it could just be some crap dropping off from the roads you've travelled on?
No, it's always within a square foot or so and only under Trish's car.....
Post by: CraigB on March 08, 2017, 09:06:52
If it's not dripping regularly then I suspect it's a bit of spillage that only has remnant dripping, might have to use a can of engine cleaner spray - lightly hose it off and see if any dripping returns.
Post by: Dazzler on March 08, 2017, 09:10:36
Dazz, have you pulled the engine cover off to see if there is evidence of the service guy's spilling a bit of oil that has eventually made it's way down.
If it's not dripping regularly then I suspect it's a bit of spillage that only has remnant dripping, might have to use a can of engine cleaner spray - lightly hose it off and see if any dripping returns.
I will try that tomorrow if I can get to it before Trish goes off to see her Mum (she goes into a home tomorrow - her mum, not Trish...)
Post by: tw2005 on March 08, 2017, 13:27:03
I doubt it's spillage given the location of the filler.
Only other thing I could think of is a breather on the gearbox but I have no idea of the design of these so that's a guess.
Is there anything above that that could leak and weep down? My old magna looked like a seal leak but I traced it back to an o-ring on a dizzy and it ran all along the top of the box then underneath to a similar spot.
Post by: Dazzler on March 09, 2017, 00:10:40
Post by: mickd on March 10, 2017, 05:51:33
Just above the bolt you mentioned, is that a bit more of the black crap or is that a
jagged hole.?
mickd
Post by: Dazzler on March 10, 2017, 07:19:53
Hi Dazz,
Just above the bolt you mentioned, is that a bit more of the black crap or is that a
jagged hole.?
mickd
Well spotted Mick! Not sure, wife out with her car at the moment. I'll try and remember to get a closer look over the weekend.
Post by: Dazzler on March 14, 2017, 09:49:07
Wife's elderly Mum is very sick so she's been out a lot more in the car visiting and stuff. I did clean up the spots a day or two ago and another small spot (size of a 10c) back already. So I will have to get it looked at.
Hope it's nothing major. I'll keep you posted, but might be a week or two (a fair bit happening down here) :crazy1:
Post by: mickd on March 14, 2017, 10:07:07
Well aware of situation re:sick parents . Best wishes.
mickd
Post by: Dazzler on May 16, 2017, 23:24:45
Anyway, they reckon it needs a new gasket for the bell housing (I guess that is where the transmission meets the engine?) They reckon it will take a week or so to get the part and then they want it for two days as they have to take out the transmission. Despite the fact they gave the filthy car a really good wash (but no vacuum) Trish was really pissed off that it wasn't picked up at the last service, that they didn't have the part in stock and that they will need it for two days (and she told the guy so). :-[ :sweating: (I should have stayed outside while she collected the key) :crazy1:
@cruiserfied If they take the gearbox out to replace the seal/gasket is it likely to affect the quality of the changes after? I won't want to be around if it does! :crazy2: :crazy2:
Post by: mickd on May 17, 2017, 02:31:06
Did the tactful one demand a loaner ?
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2017, 03:40:53
On the way to being sorted 👍
Did the tactful one demand a loaner ?
She didn't need her car on Monday so I dropped it in and got them to run me home. If she needed to go anywhere she had me for a taxi.
I reckon if they offer a loaner for the two day fix SWMBO would "crack the sh*ts" when they asked for a copy of her license and want her to sign a form regarding insurance excess... so I won't encourage it. Put it this was, if she was the President of the United States, world war three would already have started. :crazy1:
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 17, 2017, 05:52:49
Post by: beerman on May 17, 2017, 09:39:22
Just like my wife's car where the nice people at Hyundai had to put new coolant in the radiator after the old one failed. A few more years before that needs to be done again.....
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2017, 09:45:45
Look on the bright side, if they rip the transmission out, they will probably have to put new fluid in.
Just like my wife's car where the nice people at Hyundai had to put new coolant in the radiator after the old one failed. A few more years before that needs to be done again.....
Good point. :goodjob:
Wow, if she's so uptight after your holidays, what would she be like without holidays :question:
I think it's leftovers from her mum passing and stuff.. She's not been sleeping well since. Always had a short fuse about the Dealer after a few run ins about poor trade in prices and a couple of other things... :undecided:
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 17, 2017, 09:51:30
Post by: The Gonz on May 17, 2017, 09:54:13
I C :exclaim:(https://4.imimg.com/data4/CK/RH/MY-8129003/f406_integrated_circuit_hairbrush-500x500.jpg)
:crazy2:
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 17, 2017, 09:55:40
Post by: tw2005 on May 17, 2017, 10:13:53
Ok... Finally took Trish's car in to be checked for the oil leak. I took it in because Trish was going to tell them not to let anyone "shit" like an apprentice touch it! :eek: (women can be so tactful)
Anyway, they reckon it needs a new gasket for the bell housing (I guess that is where the transmission meets the engine?) They reckon it will take a week or so to get the part and then they want it for two days as they have to take out the transmission. Despite the fact they gave the filthy car a really good wash (but no vacuum) Trish was really pissed off that it wasn't picked up at the last service, that they didn't have the part in stock and that they will need it for two days (and she told the guy so). :-[ :sweating: (I should have stayed outside while she collected the key) :crazy1:
@cruiserfied If they take the gearbox out to replace the seal/gasket is it likely to affect the quality of the changes after? I won't want to be around if it does! :crazy2: :crazy2:
probably mean seal/s. No gasket at the engine block to bellhousing but there is a rear engine main seal on the crank and there would be an input shaft seal on the box. The rest of the mating surfaces I'd expect to be liquid sealer (FIPG).
Of course I'm talking from generic experience, never seen a Hyundai manual box.
Post by: mickd on May 17, 2017, 10:14:42
Make sure she collects the car, and checks it out.
Ventng at someone else is always good !
For you and her.
Post by: tw2005 on May 17, 2017, 10:15:45
I C :exclaim:(https://4.imimg.com/data4/CK/RH/MY-8129003/f406_integrated_circuit_hairbrush-500x500.jpg)
:crazy2:
Really. Can we introduce a demerit point system? I can't take any more :crazy1: :wacko: :exclaim:
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2017, 10:18:52
Hi Dazz,
Make sure she collects the car, and checks it out.
Ventng at someone else is always good !
For you and her.
Thanks Mick (good point) Are you on your 3rd Missus too? :snigger:
Post by: tw2005 on May 17, 2017, 10:21:40
Hi Dazz,
Make sure she collects the car, and checks it out.
Ventng at someone else is always good !
For you and her.
Thanks Mick (good point) Are you on your 3rd Missus too? :snigger:
:judges:
Post by: CraigB on May 17, 2017, 10:23:32
Post by: The Gonz on May 17, 2017, 10:32:41
Really. Can we introduce a demerit point system? I can't take any more :crazy1: :wacko: :exclaim:(http://s.quickmeme.com/img/1c/1c96210d620d5f7087df010696c58b60d3e31091edbb5e11e9da97aa09eec1a2.jpg)
- Just trying to be helpful and relevant. :whistler:
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2017, 10:38:13
Dazz, if they have to drop the gearbox oil you could supply your own Penrite like I used and gear changes will be improved ( that'll make Trish happy), the standard sludge they use is useless.
The gear change is/was very good now. But I will find out if they will need to replace that (happy to make it even better) :goodjob:
What exactly is the oil called please.
Post by: CraigB on May 17, 2017, 10:43:01
Penrite Pro Gear 75W-85 :link: Penrite Pro Gear Oil - 75W-85, 2.5 Litre - Supercheap Auto (http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/Product/Penrite-Pro-Gear-Oil-75W-85-2-5-Litre/342312?menuFrom=1021658)Dazz, if they have to drop the gearbox oil you could supply your own Penrite like I used and gear changes will be improved ( that'll make Trish happy), the standard sludge they use is useless.
The gear change is/was very good now. But I will find out if they will need to replace that (happy to make it even better) :goodjob:
What exactly is the oil called please.
Post by: tw2005 on May 17, 2017, 10:44:08
Really. Can we introduce a demerit point system? I can't take any more :crazy1: :wacko: :exclaim:(http://s.quickmeme.com/img/1c/1c96210d620d5f7087df010696c58b60d3e31091edbb5e11e9da97aa09eec1a2.jpg)
- Just trying to be helpful and relevant. :whistler:
(https://4.imimg.com/data4/CK/RH/MY-8129003/f406_integrated_circuit_hairbrush-500x500.jpg) :snigger:
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2017, 10:45:34
Post by: CraigB on May 17, 2017, 10:58:28
Thanks Craig is one enough?Yep :goodjob2: gearbox only holds 1.9ltr, the older Penrite bottles were exactly that so you're well and truly covered with the newer 2.5ltr bottles.
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2017, 11:02:39
Thanks Craig is one enough?Yep :goodjob2: gearbox only holds 1.9ltr, the older Penrite bottles were exactly that so you're well and truly covered with the newer 2.5ltr bottles.
Cheers Craig. :goodjob:
Post by: CraigB on May 17, 2017, 11:08:59
Post by: mickd on May 17, 2017, 11:50:53
Hi Dazz,
Make sure she collects the car, and checks it out.
Ventng at someone else is always good !
For you and her.
Thanks Mick (good point) Are you on your 3rd Missus too? :snigger:
:rofl:
No mate ,
Quick learner !!
Your post seems to have 3 or 4 separate conversations happening at the moment :lol:👍
Post by: Dazzler on June 14, 2017, 07:58:15
Post by: Dazzler on June 16, 2017, 02:46:53
They reckon $4000 plus labour (warranty) Don't know why parts would be that dear??
I'm going to drop in the oil Craig recommended early next week, while Trish gets used to driving the Auto Hatch.. :goodjob:
Post by: mickd on June 16, 2017, 03:05:24
All this from a few spots of oil on the floor.
Trish might get used to the auto before the other gets back.
$4000 plus labour, they probably charge $140 an hr as well, lucky it under warranty 👍
Post by: Dazzler on June 16, 2017, 07:44:54
Post by: CraigB on June 16, 2017, 08:37:52
Post by: Dazzler on June 16, 2017, 09:51:06
Thank Christ for warranty :sweating:
Yeah! I thought a clutch would only be about $1200 including labour? :undecided:
Post by: John B on June 16, 2017, 10:12:57
Post by: CraigB on June 16, 2017, 10:19:42
It would be if done by anyone but Hyundai :disapp:Thank Christ for warranty :sweating:
Yeah! I thought a clutch would only be about $1200 including labour? :undecided:
Post by: mickd on June 16, 2017, 10:53:29
I know my mechanic won't touch any CX9 again -owner voided warranty, turbo bearings died, he knew he should have said "no", but said "ok I'll help you out " - just too nice a guy .
Post by: Dazzler on June 16, 2017, 11:35:12