Post by: Bighvm on July 22, 2017, 21:28:40
Joined because after months on looking at possible cars to buy, I a, settled on an I 30 auto, can't decide on gas or otherwise.
I'm a pretty good self taught car mechanic and done all major and minor works to all of my cars in the past...head gas kits, gearbox rebuilds, carbs, servicing etc.
By trade I am an electrician and light builder, partition walls, kitchens etc.
I'm here to find out as much as possible and take any advice on ownership to make my new car more enjoyable and be prepared for any issues I may have.
Thanks for having me, I look forward to getting to know you!
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Post by: ~ Angel ~ on July 22, 2017, 21:28:41
:welcome: to the forum.
Post by: Dazzler on July 22, 2017, 23:15:02
Have a good browse around the site and some searches regarding key areas of interest. Huge archives of info on here.
Feel free to ask about anything you can't easily find answers to though.
The 6 speed auto in the series 2 (GD) model is more efficient and trouble free than the 4 speed in the earlier FD which did have issues for some.
EDIT: It might be a good idea to add you country at least as some model features are location specific.
Post by: The Gonz on July 23, 2017, 00:30:59
Post by: John B on July 23, 2017, 01:36:54
Post by: mickd on July 23, 2017, 02:02:03
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Post by: eye30 on July 23, 2017, 02:43:46
Post by: Smokeyr67 on July 23, 2017, 02:49:04
My neighbour is an accountant, when he bought an I30 a couple of years ago he did what accountants do and worked out to the last cent if it would be cheaper in the long run to buy a diesel or petrol model - he worked out it would take over 200,000k for the diesel to be the cheaper option.
I just said a lot, and all I needed to say was, my neighbor is very happy with his i30 :)
Smokey
Post by: Dazzler on July 23, 2017, 04:16:37
G'day mate,You should drive both though as the diesel's torque can be addictive.
My neighbour is an accountant, when he bought an I30 a couple of years ago he did what accountants do and worked out to the last cent if it would be cheaper in the long run to buy a diesel or petrol model - he worked out it would take over 200,000k for the diesel to be the cheaper option.
I just said a lot, and all I needed to say was, my neighbor is very happy with his i30 :)
Smokey
Post by: The Gonz on July 23, 2017, 11:10:20
Post by: Dazzler on July 23, 2017, 11:22:49
I'm paying a lot less for my diesel fuel than my neighbours and workmates are paying for their petrol, so tbe figures might need recalculating.And the equation may be better too when you are buying used. The diesel is dearer than the equivalent petrol secondhand but not by as much.
Post by: Bighvm on July 23, 2017, 18:13:18
It was supremely comfortable and fully loaded, but sadly in the uk- we get hit hard for emissions in road tax and the cost of fuel both types is heavy to say the least, so I'm thinking....
Diesel based on lower road tax and maybe cheaper insurance, I'm likely to find it very expensive as I've not driven for 4 years due to ill health and dodgy blood pressure mainly.
However, now all this is under control and I'm looking at the i30, could any uk owners get in touch please, I'd like to hear your experience with dealers. Services etc, if it's outside of warranty, I am very likely to service it myself as I've looked after all my cars all my life that way.
But I plan to buy a 13-14 plate premium model, be it petrol or diesel, I'm leaning towards diesel for now for the reported low end torque, can anyone say how the petrol models drive depending on engine size?
I don't see a lot on petrol models here, all the reviews on you tube point to the 1.6 diesel being the most wanted version of engine.
If the petrol source pucker and with some grunt, I'd love that!
So excited I plan to buy in the next 3 months and am searching the Internet like a fetishist looking for niche porn!!
( reminds me- I must clear my cookies)!!
Thanks all 🙃
Post by: Dazzler on July 23, 2017, 22:50:37
The 1.6 GDi in the later GD models 2012+ is a little stronger (reasonable torque once on the highway/motorway) but not that quick or strong off the mark. I think when you drive both you will see why the Diesel is the hero model in both the Series 1 (FD) and Series 2 (GD) models.
Pity you prefer or need an auto. Many of us reckon the Diesel Manual makes better use of the CRDi's torque and gives much better fuel economy in most circumstances (In the order of 20% better) :cool:
Post by: beerman on July 24, 2017, 00:09:07
G'day mate,
My neighbour is an accountant, when he bought an I30 a couple of years ago he did what accountants do and worked out to the last cent if it would be cheaper in the long run to buy a diesel or petrol model - he worked out it would take over 200,000k for the diesel to be the cheaper option.
I just said a lot, and all I needed to say was, my neighbor is very happy with his i30 :)
Smokey
I reckon I'm ahead on the Wife's FD at 98,000 though I did get it for 20k drive away. Will be ahead on the i40 too but again got it for cheap :happydance:
Post by: eye30 on July 24, 2017, 12:16:34
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Post by: CraigB on July 24, 2017, 13:15:39
Reading re preference for auto, is it the same in oz that if you pass test in auto you can only drive auto but pass in manual you can drive both?Yes, it's the same here Lester.
Post by: Bighvm on July 24, 2017, 14:43:33
Will have to look deep into this... I really want a full spec model.. so what is the designation for that guys?
Post by: Shambles on July 24, 2017, 14:48:50
Not all members visit the intro section, so you're probably better off asking in here:
:link: ADVICE FOR BUYERS (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?board=154.0)
Post by: Surferdude on July 24, 2017, 22:25:56
If it is, it's changed.Reading re preference for auto, is it the same in oz that if you pass test in auto you can only drive auto but pass in manual you can drive both?Yes, it's the same here Lester.
In NSW up until the late 1990's you could pass on an auto and after 12 months were legally able to drive a manual. Both our middle son and our daughter did this. Later, when they moved back to Qld, they were issued with full licences for manual.
In Qld, if you passed on an auto you had to redo the test to be legally able to drive a manual.
Post by: mickd on July 24, 2017, 23:40:49
If it is, it's changed.Reading re preference for auto, is it the same in oz that if you pass test in auto you can only drive auto but pass in manual you can drive both?Yes, it's the same here Lester.
In NSW up until the late 1990's you could pass on an auto and after 12 months were legally able to drive a manual. Both our middle son and our daughter did this. Later, when they moved back to Qld, they were issued with full licences for manual.
In Qld, if you passed on an auto you had to redo the test to be legally able to drive a manual.
Youngest got her license 4 years ago in her manual, got extra points for it , allowed to drive both .
Friends who took autos had to wait 2 years or reset before allowed to drive manuals.
Oldest took our manual instead of her auto as she wanted to be able to drive manual as needed.
She had a part time job on a dairy, farmer asked them who can drive a manual? , only she said yes, (still on "L's" at the time) , farmer says ok you can drive the new $150 k tractor, heres the keys , catch!
Post by: Surferdude on July 25, 2017, 00:44:45
OK thanks.If it is, it's changed.Reading re preference for auto, is it the same in oz that if you pass test in auto you can only drive auto but pass in manual you can drive both?Yes, it's the same here Lester.
In NSW up until the late 1990's you could pass on an auto and after 12 months were legally able to drive a manual. Both our middle son and our daughter did this. Later, when they moved back to Qld, they were issued with full licences for manual.
In Qld, if you passed on an auto you had to redo the test to be legally able to drive a manual.
Youngest got her license 4 years ago in her manual, got extra points for it , allowed to drive both .
Friends who took autos had to wait 2 years or reset before allowed to drive manuals.
Oldest took our manual instead of her auto as she wanted to be able to drive manual as needed.
She had a part time job on a dairy, farmer asked them who can drive a manual? , only she said yes, (still on "L's" at the time) , farmer says ok you can drive the new $150 k tractor, heres the keys , catch!
So they've increased the qualifying period from one year to two.
PS. Love the tractor story. Bet she enjoyed it.
Post by: IDVRI on July 27, 2017, 11:39:43
Post by: NayuluTjuta on July 27, 2017, 11:50:39
Reading re preference for auto, is it the same in oz that if you pass test in auto you can only drive auto but pass in manual you can drive both?Yes, it's the same here Lester.
Well, that depends on the state you live in. In SA, once you have your licence, you can drive both an auto or a manual.
Bob
Post by: CraigB on July 27, 2017, 11:53:53
You can drive both if you've gotten your license in a manual, if only passed in auto then driving a manual would be illegal.Reading re preference for auto, is it the same in oz that if you pass test in auto you can only drive auto but pass in manual you can drive both?Yes, it's the same here Lester.
Well, that depends on the state you live in. In SA, once you have your licence, you can drive both an auto or a manual.
Bob
Post by: NayuluTjuta on July 27, 2017, 12:00:09
Bob
Post by: CraigB on July 27, 2017, 12:12:28
In SA, different state, different rules. I don't agree with the SA rules, but that's the state of play.That seems pretty stupid, other than the safety risks they then also wouldn't be able to drive a manual in any other state :crazy1:
Bob
Post by: NayuluTjuta on July 27, 2017, 12:22:13
In SA, different state, different rules. I don't agree with the SA rules, but that's the state of play.That seems pretty stupid, other than the safety risks they then also wouldn't be able to drive a manual in any other state :crazy1:
Bob
You've got no argument from me on that.
Bob
Post by: eye30 on July 27, 2017, 13:03:19
Is the auto test easier to pass!Reading re preference for auto, is it the same in oz that if you pass test in auto you can only drive auto but pass in manual you can drive both?Yes, it's the same here Lester.
Well, that depends on the state you live in. In SA, once you have your licence, you can drive both an auto or a manual.
Bob
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Post by: Surferdude on July 27, 2017, 13:08:11
That would depend on whether or not there was any endorsement on their licence which said they did their test on an auto. If it doesn't, i can't see how any other state would know.In SA, different state, different rules. I don't agree with the SA rules, but that's the state of play.That seems pretty stupid, other than the safety risks they then also wouldn't be able to drive a manual in any other state :crazy1:
Bob
Post by: Surferdude on July 27, 2017, 13:11:30
Only in that they don't have to learn how to use a clutch and change gears.Is the auto test easier to pass!Reading re preference for auto, is it the same in oz that if you pass test in auto you can only drive auto but pass in manual you can drive both?Yes, it's the same here Lester.
Well, that depends on the state you live in. In SA, once you have your licence, you can drive both an auto or a manual.
Bob
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The test itself is the same.
But it's the integration of gear changing into all the other driving requirements which add a degree of difficulty.
Post by: CraigB on July 27, 2017, 13:14:33
That would depend on whether or not there was any endorsement on their licence which said they did their test on an auto. If it doesn't, i can't see how any other state would know.If they were pulled over for a license check or speeding then the license would be queried through the usual system check which would notify of class or restrictions I would think :undecided:
Post by: Surferdude on July 27, 2017, 13:17:50
But, if SA doesn't differentiate then there wouldn't be any records to check.That would depend on whether or not there was any endorsement on their licence which said they did their test on an auto. If it doesn't, i can't see how any other state would know.If they were pulled over for a license check or speeding then the license would be queried through the usual system check which would notify of class or restrictions I would think :undecided:
Post by: CraigB on July 27, 2017, 13:21:42
:Dunno:But, if SA doesn't differentiate then there wouldn't be any records to check.That would depend on whether or not there was any endorsement on their licence which said they did their test on an auto. If it doesn't, i can't see how any other state would know.If they were pulled over for a license check or speeding then the license would be queried through the usual system check which would notify of class or restrictions I would think :undecided:
Post by: Surferdude on July 27, 2017, 13:27:43
Just been having a browse through the SA licensing pages and can't find any reference to auto or manual. Not to say its not there, just not obvious.
I'm out. :fum:
Post by: eye30 on July 27, 2017, 13:32:47
I must be missing something here in that, to me, listening to the engine noise and using manual gears contributes to safer driving in as much that you have to concentrate.Only in that they don't have to learn how to use a clutch and change gears.Is the auto test easier to pass!Reading re preference for auto, is it the same in oz that if you pass test in auto you can only drive auto but pass in manual you can drive both?Yes, it's the same here Lester.
Well, that depends on the state you live in. In SA, once you have your licence, you can drive both an auto or a manual.
Bob
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The test itself is the same.
But it's the integration of gear changing into all the other driving requirements which add a degree of difficulty.
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Post by: Surferdude on July 27, 2017, 13:37:50
That's quite true.I must be missing something here in that, to me, listening to the engine noise and using manual gears contributes to safer driving in as much that you have to concentrate.Only in that they don't have to learn how to use a clutch and change gears.Is the auto test easier to pass!Reading re preference for auto, is it the same in oz that if you pass test in auto you can only drive auto but pass in manual you can drive both?Yes, it's the same here Lester.
Well, that depends on the state you live in. In SA, once you have your licence, you can drive both an auto or a manual.
Bob
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The test itself is the same.
But it's the integration of gear changing into all the other driving requirements which add a degree of difficulty.
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But we are talking about learner drivers here.
Didn't we already establish that the UK is the same as most of Australia in that if you do your test in an auto, you can't drive a manual?
Post by: CraigB on July 27, 2017, 13:52:57
Its a puzzle all right.Second last paragraph :link: My Licence - Frequently asked questions (http://www.mylicence.sa.gov.au/my-car-licence/frequently_asked_questions) though no mention how it applies in other states.
Just been having a browse through the SA licensing pages and can't find any reference to auto or manual. Not to say its not there, just not obvious.
I'm out. :fum:
Post by: eye30 on July 27, 2017, 15:57:53
Yes.That's quite true.I must be missing something here in that, to me, listening to the engine noise and using manual gears contributes to safer driving in as much that you have to concentrate.Only in that they don't have to learn how to use a clutch and change gears.Is the auto test easier to pass!Reading re preference for auto, is it the same in oz that if you pass test in auto you can only drive auto but pass in manual you can drive both?Yes, it's the same here Lester.
Well, that depends on the state you live in. In SA, once you have your licence, you can drive both an auto or a manual.
Bob
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The test itself is the same.
But it's the integration of gear changing into all the other driving requirements which add a degree of difficulty.
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But we are talking about learner drivers here.
Didn't we already establish that the UK is the same as most of Australia in that if you do your test in an auto, you can't drive a manual?
Also, if you have auto licence and wish to drive manual, you have to take and pass test in manual no matter how long you have held full auto licence.
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Post by: mickd on July 28, 2017, 01:36:54
ACT L plate 100km/hr speed limit, NSW 80km/h.
ACT can do 100 in NSW, but NSW must only do 80km /h in ACT.
ACT P plate can do 6 hr course in a room, pay $150:00 then does not need to display P plate and gets extra points on license and can do 110km/h on freeway. No such option for NSW.