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GOT PROBLEMS OR ISSUES? => GENERAL => Topic started by: JarrahBark on July 05, 2008, 08:07:10

Title: Throttle stopped working
Post by: JarrahBark on July 05, 2008, 08:07:10
The throttle on my i30 diesel auto stopped working at a busy intersection on Leach Highway yesterday (Friday). Managed to creep the car to the edge of the road. A hairy experience in heavy traffic and rain.

Called the RAC who inspected and called a tow truck. Vehicle taken to Hyundai Myree. They reported all OK mid Saturday morning. Said they had found a "lose wire" bid me fare well with "I hope it keeps going".

Me too ...

Given two returns for cruise not working now this I am becoming suspicions of wiring in general. Anybody else with similar problems??
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: Shambles on July 05, 2008, 10:28:40
No problems here with wiring, with 7300 miles on her clock.

To be honest the general wiring build looks superb, with everything tightly bound and kept as close to the body as possible. Being fly-by-wire, the throttle is at the mercy of properly fastened con-blocks, so I hope they've tracked down and permanently fixed yours Jarrah
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: JarrahBark on July 05, 2008, 10:39:16
So do I. Thinking I might have got that dreaded first car on Monday morning or last car on Friday afternoon off the assembly line model.

This break down occurred within easy range of help but if a similar problem develops 400km from any where I am going to need a wiring/workshop manual. Does anybody know if there is such an animal?
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: echocae on July 05, 2008, 13:40:29
so it was you that cause traffic jammed in leach hwy... :P, i have no problem with my auto, and my cruise control working perfectly, btw may i know which dealer did u bought ur car from?
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: EymaTeapot on July 05, 2008, 14:46:08
Lets hope you were just unlucky Jarrah, Never heard of anything like it.
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: i30manUK on July 05, 2008, 15:37:51
Quote from: "JarrahBark"
... if a similar problem develops 400km from any where I am going to need a wiring/workshop manual. Does anybody know if there is such an animal?

I think this question was asked a week or so ago and nobdy seems to have one yet - Would be nice to have one, wouldn't it.
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: Dazzler on July 05, 2008, 23:15:14
Had a good search on google (can't seem to find a workshop manual for the i30 available yet)

Shambles seems to be good at finding things like that..... wonder if he can?  8-)
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: JarrahBark on July 06, 2008, 02:41:04
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btw may i know which dealer did u bought ur car from?

Brought the vehicle from Mandurah. Good sales service but the sales manager has now gone to the dealer a suburb closer to Perth. Am getting far better quotes on service charges.

I have been asked by Myree who fixed the problem to report the issue to Mandurah service. I shall do this next week and pursue them for more info on how to handle break downs of this sort. It is worth noting that even though the RAC correctly diagnosed the problem he did not know how to go about fixing.

You would have to assume that an auto repair business, even in major rural centres would not fare better unless they are a Hyundai accredited operation. Bit of a worry this ....
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: Dazzler on July 06, 2008, 03:05:09
Quote from: "JarrahBark"

 Said they had found a "lose wire" bid me fare well with "I hope it keeps going".

Me too ...


Hi J-B,

Would have been nice if they left off the "I hope it keeps going"

Doesn't exactly fill you with confidence.

Do you think when they fitted or fixed the Cruise control they might not have tightened or replaced "the wire" properly?

Rgds,

Dazz
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: JarrahBark on July 06, 2008, 03:15:21
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they might not have tightened or replaced "the wire" properly?

They certainly did not do so first time round Dazz it went back a second time. A "dry joint" was blamed which in technical slang means a solder joint to which insufficient heat was applied to properly melt the solder.

It must be remembered though that the cruise was installed by a third party contractor at point of sale. I understand cruise is now standard?

I have been around in the technical area far too long to reject the idea that the two incidents are related. It opens a can of "wires" that can lead to all sorts of problems when unqulified people start getting their fingers into complex wiring systems like this.
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: Dazzler on July 06, 2008, 03:22:17
Hopefully, all will be o/k now but guess it will be a few months and a few thousand kilometres before you feel confident with it.

Good luck....
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: Lakes on July 07, 2008, 10:50:05
Sorry to hear that JB, no problem with my aftermarket CC 6,040k now. also i like fly by wire have had it in my Falcon Ute 206,000k no problem and the sonata 2.4 auto has it too no problem eather. but look at it this way i have seen conventional throttle cables. and those old steel rods break too. eather way bad news.
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: Dazzler on July 07, 2008, 10:54:18
I'd be tempted to throttle the mechanic .. if it were me... 8-)
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: LuciferDarklord on July 27, 2008, 13:16:58
Jarrah, I reckon its got to do with the aftermarket cruise control.  Being drive-by-wire, the throttle is just a potentiometer, and the cruise would have to mimick the resistance of the pedal to modulate speed.  I´ve been harping on to Hyundai now for months about the cruise control - or lack of, and they finally told me last week that all SLX diesels will be coming with factory cruise, as per the petrol model, steering wheel mounted controls and all.


Cheers
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: drew1981 on November 13, 2008, 02:55:05
Hey guys we have seen a few of these throttle not working at work, you will only find it on the CRDI models only due to the fly by wire, the caus of the problems is the Throttle control sensor a batch it would seem where faulty not enough to warrant a recall you will find most dealers wont know what is going on the fault codes reported on the system mean nothing it took our boys a little while to figure it all out we striped a stock car and kept replacing parts on the customers car until it was fixed and that was the problem we have had 3 since and all have been fixed on the spot with no further issues.

if i can be of any more help on the matter please let me know

hope this helps
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: DeathRattle on November 13, 2008, 08:23:12
Very interesting.
Is there any hints as to who may be affected ?
CRDi, but any particular build range or dates ?
Auto or manuals ?
Any numbers on the sensor to look for.
If I understand you right, it's the position sensor on the accelerator pedal inside the cabin ?

Thanks........
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: drew1981 on November 13, 2008, 09:09:24
yep your right, and no not to sure its been such a small number i mean 3 that i know of not a major concern, in the big picture
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: eye30 on November 13, 2008, 17:19:30
Quote from: "drew1981"
yep your right, and no not to sure its been such a small number i mean 3 that i know of not a major concern, in the big picture


Is this just an auto box issue?
Title: Re: Throttle stopped working
Post by: drew1981 on November 14, 2008, 23:00:24
have seen it on auto and manual so i guess not
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