Post by: CraigB on October 18, 2017, 07:59:53
3 and a half hours for the first system :Shocked: and now 40% through downloading on the second :p
The update itself installed fine and no settings changed, seems a little faster on startup and shutdown.
Used CCleaner to delete the XBox rubbish that got reinstalled but no negatives so far :)
Post by: Surferdude on October 18, 2017, 08:26:03
Post by: CraigB on October 18, 2017, 08:36:55
Post by: AlanHo on October 18, 2017, 09:12:59
I tried to install it on my wife's laptop which is the same model as mine - but it kept saying that windows is up to date with version 1703. I tried again this morning with the same result. I guess it is in a long queue on the MS Server
Post by: CraigB on October 18, 2017, 09:21:47
I installed it on my Desktop and laptop last evening - all went smoothly and took the best part of an hour to carry out with both downloading at the same time.Screw you and your fast internet :fuckyou: :D
Post by: Shambles on October 18, 2017, 09:25:37
I let my prime laptop download it half an hour ago - it took 11 minutes to get W1709 but the killer is the "Preparing to install updates xx%" which takes forever and a day.
Post by: CraigB on October 18, 2017, 09:32:44
^ :lol:Screw you too :fuckyou: :fuckyou: Twice :D
I let my prime laptop download it half an hour ago - it took 11 minutes to get W1709
Post by: The Gonz on October 18, 2017, 09:43:23
Post by: Dazzler on October 18, 2017, 10:27:32
Post by: AlanHo on October 18, 2017, 11:01:55
(https://preview.ibb.co/kBEyWR/Speed_Test.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g4KAd6)
:kissmyass: :kissmyass: :kissmyass: :raspberry1: :raspberry1: :raspberry1: :tease: :tease: :tease: :happydance: :happydance: :happydance:
Post by: CraigB on October 18, 2017, 11:06:54
Post by: AlanHo on October 18, 2017, 17:07:51
We have a home network with my desktop connected to the router by Ethernet cable and our two laptops connected by wireless.
Before the windows update all 3 computers could "see" each other via File explorer (network) and they all had full control over each other's files.
Thye current situation is that my Desktop can "see" both laptops and has full control over their files. However, the laptops cannot "see" the other computers. Hence I now have one-way network traffic.
I have spent a long time today making sure that all 3 computer have absolutely identical network and file sharing settings. I have re-booted them several times, I have used the Windows network trouble shooter on all 3 computers - all to no avail.
The laptops are "blind" and cannot see the other computers, but the Desktop computer can see them all.
Grrrr - I bet it's something really simple and I am going to look like an idiot. :head_knock:
Post by: CraigB on October 18, 2017, 17:20:23
Post by: neptune on October 18, 2017, 17:32:50
Post by: CraigB on October 18, 2017, 17:39:43
My download speed is 7.80Mbps and upload is 0.88MbpsJohn, you'd better clear at least a 4 hour window for the download and install, and don't plan on being able to use the internet while it's downloading.
Post by: Shambles on October 18, 2017, 18:04:56
Post by: AlanHo on October 18, 2017, 20:26:45
Try going into Setting > Network & Internet > Network troubleshooter
As my post explained - I have already done that on all 3 computers...... :crazy1:
Post by: Shambles on October 18, 2017, 20:31:28
After this update I noticed my TV can't see my laptop, for file/media streaming.
To enable this, and it appears other items, I had to do the following (on my laptop).
Control Panel > Network & Sharing Centre > Change Advanced Sharing Settings
Scroll down to "All Networks"
Turn on "Public Folder Sharing", which seems to have been disabled by this update.
I also turned on "media streaming", which seems to have been turned off by this update.
Post by: Dazzler on October 18, 2017, 22:20:42
Post by: AlanHo on October 19, 2017, 00:09:32
All the firewalls are set to pivate
After running the trouble shooters again - which found nothing as far as I know, checking again all the network and sharing settings on the 3 computers and re-booting them all, the situation is a little better but confuses me even more.
My desktop can see the two laptops and has full control if their files.
My wifes laptop can see the desktop and my laptop and has control of their files
My laptop can see the desktop and has full control of its files - but cannot see my wife's laptop.
I can live with that situation because I am able to copy files across all 3 machines - but it is a niggle not to understand it.
Post by: Shambles on October 19, 2017, 00:25:39
Post by: Dazzler on October 19, 2017, 05:43:08
You need to simplify your life, Alan :P
Alan is a lot more organized and thorough than me! As long as I can copy stuff to and from my two NAS drives I'm happy...
Post by: Jeff70 on October 20, 2017, 07:40:11
Graig,I think you need to google CC Cleaner and the recent malware saga.
Hope your PC is ok....
Post by: CraigB on October 20, 2017, 08:32:24
CC Cleaner?I know all about the CCleaner hack and only a few companies were targeted, Avast and CCleaner rectified the issue soon after the discovery and all is fine, all that is required is to install the latest 5.35.6210 :goodjob2:
Graig,I think you need to google CC Cleaner and the recent malware saga.
Hope your PC is ok....
You can read about it here on the forum :link: Downloaded CCleaner lately? Read on... (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=46437.0)
Post by: CraigB on October 26, 2017, 15:44:35
More easily done on Pro and enterprise levels of Windows because of the gpedit access, though for Home editions most settings can still be changed via Powershell and the registry "be forewarned that modifying registry settings can be detrimental to the system if done wrong, if not comfortable modifying registry settings then please leave well enough alone".
- Exploit protection is enabled by default in FCU so no need to tinker with anything there :)
- Controled Folder access is an option than can be enabled if you wish to test via Defender's UI :link: Stopping ransomware where it counts: Protecting your data with Controlled folder access ? Windows Security blog (https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mmpc/2017/10/23/stopping-ransomware-where-it-counts-protecting-your-data-with-controlled-folder-access/) I tested this for a short time and works well though can be a little annoying if you want to make changes to items inside the protected folders or programs wanting access to the folder contents until you've granted/set permissions for all unwanted blocks.
- Network Protection is an extra feature within Exploit Guard that can be turned on easily to block phishing scams - IP's, exploits, and other malicious content on the Internet. :link: Turn Network protection on | Microsoft Docs (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/threat-protection/windows-defender-exploit-guard/enable-network-protection)
- Attack surface reduction rules (ASR) is another componant within Exploit Guard which can be activated if needing the specific blocking techniques though a little more fiddly, I've not tinkered with these ones yet :link: Use Attack surface reduction rules to prevent malware infection | Microsoft Docs (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/threat-protection/windows-defender-exploit-guard/attack-surface-reduction-exploit-guard#attack-surface-reduction-rules)
-Blocking levels for Defenders Cloud Protection can also be adjusted, I've personally been running the High level setting for the last few days with no adverse affects, though higher levels can give more false positives :link: How to Set High Blocking Level for Cloud Protection in Windows Defender Windows 10 (http://www.howto-connect.com/set-high-blocking-level-for-cloud-protection-windows-defender-windows-10/)
Enjoy playing :) and dont forget to copy your previous settings or save the links in case you wish to revert any setting.
Edited to correct Network Protection link.
Post by: ABSi30 on October 26, 2017, 15:56:07
Post by: CraigB on October 26, 2017, 16:09:02
Good old Linux Mint. Got it on laptop eventually after converting iso file to the proper one. Most of the above is way beyond me not being brought up with computers. My grandson who is 8 year old keeps me right. :happydance: :happydance:Windows is user friendly and more compatible when compared to trying to get much loved software to run on Linux, Linux also isn't safe from malware like it once was.
Post by: Shambles on October 26, 2017, 17:43:27
Controled Folder access is an option ...
A right royal pain in the ass over the past 5 days, until I re-disabled it.
So annoying to get to the end of a text edit on a config file, only for Defender to tell me it has discarded all my changes :spitty: :confused:
Post by: CraigB on October 26, 2017, 17:52:32
Yeah it can be annoying which is why it's not activated by default, much like HIP's programs can be a PITA :head_knock:Controled Folder access is an option ...
A right royal pain in the ass over the past 5 days, until I re-disabled it.
So annoying to get to the end of a text edit on a config file, only for Defender to tell me it has discarded all my changes :spitty: :confused:
Hopefully Windows gets some update to simplify it, probably have to wait until the next release :undecided:
Post by: Shambles on October 26, 2017, 18:47:43
Good idea in principle though.
Post by: Surferdude on November 04, 2017, 05:16:11
Which is fine given my slow download speed at 1Mbps. :crazy1:
However, I do now have 500gb/month download capability thanks tomsome discussions with iiNet.
Post by: CraigB on November 04, 2017, 05:26:10
Post by: AlanHo on November 08, 2017, 14:27:23
You may recall that on my home network my desktop computer can find both our laptops. The laptops can find each other, but neither could find the desktop.
The network advanced setting were all absolutely identical and the network trouble shooters found no problem.
But I just found this solution :-
Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP
1. Hold Windows Key and Press R. Type ncpa.cpl and Click OK
2. Right-Click on the connection and choose Properties.
3. Click “Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) Version 4” in the list.
4. Click Properties, and then click Advanced.
5. On the Advanced TCP/IP settings windows, go to “WINS” tab.
6. Under NetBIOS setting, click “Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP”, and then click OK.
Make a note of it - you never know when you might need it.
Post by: Surferdude on November 21, 2017, 09:15:36
Trev, If you don't want to wait you can grab it direct :link: Download Windows 10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/software-download/windows10)
I was happy to wait.
Just downloaded it over the last 19 hours. :crazy1:
Done and dusted.
Now to do my wife's PC.
Then I guess the laptop I upgraded from W8.1 will need it.
Post by: Shambles on November 21, 2017, 09:25:38