Post by: Lakes on November 11, 2017, 19:42:09
like it's been a year or more since ford Australia closed ( and now holden )
Post by: Dazzler on November 11, 2017, 19:47:35
well I just noted yesterday was still two falcon highway patrol car patrolling the highway. I wonder how long till they get replaced and what will they use?
like it's been a year or more since ford Australia closed ( and now holden )
They'll disappear soon enough. They use mainly unmarked 3.6 litre Liberty Sedans down here at the moment.
Penty of alternatives being assesed and mentioned on here including the obvious ones, Stinger, Mustang, etc..
Post by: tla on November 11, 2017, 20:50:34
Post by: The Gonz on November 12, 2017, 08:46:27
Post by: Lakes on November 12, 2017, 09:22:44
Post by: beerman on November 12, 2017, 11:15:21
Post by: Lakes on November 12, 2017, 19:18:59
but with the new rules in supercars, I suppose anything can race now as holden or red bull going to run twin turbo. I think with out v8's it will be like the bad days when the great Peter Brock had to race a ford as rules did not favour v8's. the interest from public dropped too.it's always been the two Aussie made cars that had American v8's. stinger looks more like a sportscar not a family sedan.
hope I never get stung by a stinger!!
one requirement of nsw police that other states don't have is the brakes, have to have brembo as they do high speed brake testing before the cars pass to be use in this state, think mustang has them as opption also must have full size spare and inflater.
Post by: The Gonz on November 13, 2017, 07:21:35
:rofl:
Post by: Lakes on November 13, 2017, 19:28:17
Should make for an interesting time at ex-cop auctions in the future.
be interesting to see what prices the current, holden and falcon chaser's bring as will be the last of the long line.
Post by: Lakes on November 17, 2017, 01:23:52
Has a write up on the KIA Stinger & it looks like a worthy repla ement. I did not know it was a four door.
Will depend on what brakes it uses as NSW chassers have a very tough brake test before a car can be used for high speed by them. Will need the best Brembo make nothing less!!
Post by: Lakes on December 01, 2017, 20:11:25
Post by: Dazzler on December 01, 2017, 20:13:06
well seen the first new non holden non ford chaser and it's on work duty, catching speedsters in nsw. one requirement nsw has other states don't is we have high speed brake tests to meet if the cars brakes start to fade they can't be used for high speed in this state. they have brakes like the v8 supercars. so what do you think we are using now?
BMW or Merc?
Post by: Lakes on December 01, 2017, 20:35:11
well seen the first new non holden non ford chaser and it's on work duty, catching speedsters in nsw. one requirement nsw has other states don't is we have high speed brake tests to meet if the cars brakes start to fade they can't be used for high speed in this state. they have brakes like the v8 supercars. so what do you think we are using now?
BMW or Merc?
no to both, keep trying
Post by: neptune on December 01, 2017, 21:11:18
well seen the first new non holden non ford chaser and it's on work duty, catching speedsters in nsw. one requirement nsw has other states don't is we have high speed brake tests to meet if the cars brakes start to fade they can't be used for high speed in this state. they have brakes like the v8 supercars. so what do you think we are using now?
BMW or Merc?
no to both, keep trying
Stinger or 300c?
Post by: Lakes on December 01, 2017, 21:21:40
well seen the first new non holden non ford chaser and it's on work duty, catching speedsters in nsw. one requirement nsw has other states don't is we have high speed brake tests to meet if the cars brakes start to fade they can't be used for high speed in this state. they have brakes like the v8 supercars. so what do you think we are using now?
BMW or Merc?
no to both, keep trying
Stinger or 300c?
no to both, keep trying.
Post by: Lakes on December 01, 2017, 22:07:05
but a truck told me they have also been testing Volvo up the north coast for over a month now. but think still testing.
one thing you notice in nsw is you can't tell a highway patrol when it is facing you, they look like any other white holden or falcon, so they need something that won't stand out too easy.
Post by: ABSi30 on December 01, 2017, 22:16:14
Post by: mickd on December 01, 2017, 22:24:54
Post by: The Gonz on December 01, 2017, 22:33:50
... a truck told me ...Was it this one?
:lol:
Post by: Lakes on December 02, 2017, 00:55:54
... a truck told me ...Was it this one?
:lol:
lol gonz bloody yank Mac does not know what a trucky is so changed to truck
Post by: The Gonz on December 02, 2017, 05:39:06
Post by: Lakes on December 02, 2017, 08:43:25
There's a Santa Fe doing the rounds around Camden. It replaced a Pajero.
well mick must be general duty, not chaser, but as I found out many years back when a mounted police chased a van I was driving down circular quay, on a horse I think it Wass an ex race horse and it went flat out ha ha, the pat of quay I was driving in was closed to traffic only bus's allowed but I had permission, cop did not know that, so was a new experience for me, once in a lifetime. lol
Post by: neptune on December 02, 2017, 13:55:45
Post by: CraigB on December 02, 2017, 17:15:59
Post by: Dazzler on December 02, 2017, 20:35:56
More on the subject of our new police vehicles :link: Could Camry V6 outrun an SS? (https://www.msn.com/en-au/motoring/news/could-camry-v6-outrun-an-ss/ar-BBFYLjY?li=AA8ewQ&ocid=spartanntp)
They use a few marked Hybrid Camrys down here already. The new one coming is going to be nearly as quick as the V6 and could possibly be my next car! :whistler: ( couple of years away - of course...) :winker:
:link: 2018 Toyota Camry - Price And Features For Australia (https://www.themotorreport.com.au/car-article/motor-news/2018-toyota-camry---price-and-features-for-australia-116409.html)
Post by: Lakes on December 02, 2017, 20:43:47
Saw a Volvo police car in Canberra two weeks ago chase down someone...... so John , is it a Volvo or the Camry V6....?hey nep Canberra federal police they have nothing to do with nsw highway patrol also they have different laws, different registration rules too.this was a Volvo they probably set up brakes like the Volvo scotty raced before he went to falcon. don't think a v6 camery has a chance here this is where the action is!
Post by: beerman on December 03, 2017, 08:59:54
I am told that the Stinger has been marked up and isn't far from hitting the road.
Post by: Lakes on December 03, 2017, 19:54:11
Qld ditched Toyota.....Too expensive apparantly. Hyundai was happy to sharpen the pencil.I don't think Queensland chase crooks, I could be wrong, thats one reason nsw have tough testing the brakes have to work when driven hard at high speed, if you drove most cars on a race trace at high speed you would have no brakes, they get too hot and fade off.
I am told that the Stinger has been marked up and isn't far from hitting the road.
but our cops use brakes like race cars so the cars they use for highway patrol need the best brakes not the crap production cars come with.
Post by: beerman on December 14, 2017, 08:45:56
:link: Police in Australia Get a Kia Stinger in the Pursuit Fleet - The Drive (http://www.thedrive.com/news/16823/police-in-australia-get-a-kia-stinger-in-the-pursuit-fleet)
Post by: Dazzler on December 14, 2017, 09:53:41
THis is interesting though...
“The Si, GT Line and GT variants marketed in Australia, and all New Zealand Stinger variants are well-equipped and have earnt the maximum 5 star ANCAP safety rating.
“Unfortunately two Stinger variants offered as part of the Australian model line-up – the 200S and 330S – are supplied without the active safety aids provided in other variants and score 3 stars.”
An ANCAP press release goes onto detail the absence of automated emergency braking and lane keep assist in the 200S and 330S models, omissions which resulted in those cars’ ‘Safety Assist’ scores reduced by 25 per cent.
https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/kia-stinger-dealt-three-star-safety-rating-110203/ (https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/kia-stinger-dealt-three-star-safety-rating-110203/)
Post by: beerman on December 14, 2017, 10:14:50
Post by: Dazzler on December 14, 2017, 10:23:13
I don't get that. The i30 dosen't have those features on the base model yet got 5 stars????
But with the i30 you can add them as an option ($1500 I think)
The stupid part is that Auto Expert and I both agree that Lane departure assist is a pain in the ass and I have disabled mine. :cool:
Post by: beerman on December 14, 2017, 10:37:20
I don't get that. The i30 dosen't have those features on the base model yet got 5 stars????
But with the i30 you can add them as an option ($1500 I think)
The stupid part is that Auto Expert and I both agree that Lane departure assist is a pain in the ass and I have disabled mine. :cool:
Reckon lane departure would be up there with seatbelt alarms for me....both totally useless, but mandated by ANCAP. Not overly fussed on AEB either...
Post by: neptune on December 14, 2017, 12:47:35
Chrysler 300 SRT police car deal done
NSW Police to continue using V8 rear-drive pursuit cars – but this time they’re American muscle-cars
The large and unmistakable grille of Chrysler 300 SRT will soon be a lot more common in the rear-view mirrors of Australian motorists – with sirens and lights.
As we reported in October, the NSW Police force was evaluating the big Chrysler sedan for pursuit duties and now we can confirm it’s a done deal.
A fleet of Chrysler 300 SRTs will become pursuit vehicles when NSW Police takes delivery in 2018, giving it a phalanx of fast rear-drive, V8-powered chase cars.
Peak power of 350kW and torque of 637Nm emanates from the 300 SRT’s 6.4-litre naturally-aspirated HEMI V8. That’s enough twist to propel regular versions of the cars to 100km/h in 4.5 seconds. Top speed is around 280km/h.
Post by: PiL on December 14, 2017, 23:48:43
How long do these cars serve?
Based on that, was $60k per car a better deal than vic's $120k diesel bmws?
Thinking about fuel consumption, maintenance costs and reliability.
Post by: Dazzler on December 15, 2017, 00:16:28
https://youtu.be/dhM_-D__Eec (https://youtu.be/dhM_-D__Eec)
Post by: beerman on December 15, 2017, 05:44:16
Yep apparently they chose the chrysler because it was the closest feel to the outgoing pursuit cars. (RWD v8) Dunno if that's a good reason or not, but wonder at the business case.
How long do these cars serve?
Based on that, was $60k per car a better deal than vic's $120k diesel bmws?
Thinking about fuel consumption, maintenance costs and reliability.
Given Chryslers reliability :whistler: . I wonder who buys them once they are done, though from memory NSW leases their vehicles, so probably not their problem.
Post by: beerman on December 15, 2017, 05:50:38
If you want to talk bullshit, have a look at the number of 'evade offences' that are recorded in QLD and how many of those are aprehended.
Here is a case in point; the so called social justice approach, saw numerous people removed from their cars at gunpoint. Over the border in NSW they were chased and caught.....The Qld Approach was to stand by and watch..... Which is better?
:link: Category: | The Courier Mail (http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/police-helicopter-films-carjacking-spree-interstate-police-chase/news-story/ebfb8825c4805523984b75fb7169bfe8)
Post by: Dazzler on December 15, 2017, 08:53:59
I wont watch all 21 minutes of this rubbish, but If you watch some of the chases in QLD, the criminals run riot, until they cross the border and are pursued and captured.
If you want to talk bullshit, have a look at the number of 'evade offences' that are recorded in QLD and how many of those are aprehended.
Here is a case in point; the so called social justice approach, saw numerous people removed from their cars at gunpoint. Over the border in NSW they were chased and caught.....The Qld Approach was to stand by and watch..... Which is better?
:link: Category: | The Courier Mail (http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/police-helicopter-films-carjacking-spree-interstate-police-chase/news-story/ebfb8825c4805523984b75fb7169bfe8)
It depends on the crime that has been committed I reckon. A bit like John says. If they've robbed a bank or committed a hhome invasion they should be chased. But, if they take off after being caught doing burnouts, it's a different story.
Post by: mickd on December 15, 2017, 09:59:39
Driver failed to stop for RBT , took off, got chased for only a couple of kms until he went down freeway the WRONG way. Police cancelled chase immediately and area control agreed.
He kept the hammer down, lost it , split car in half and killed himself.
No one else was hurt, (pure luck ).
Personally,
he didn't bolt for no reason,
only himself killed,
police only put at risk for a short time,
no court costs,
win, win, win for the rest of us.
Post by: beerman on December 15, 2017, 11:18:29
Post by: Lakes on December 15, 2017, 17:59:39
simple fix ... fit breath test to all new cars, have to breath test before car will start!! problem solved.
Post by: Lakes on December 15, 2017, 18:04:19
Yep apparently they chose the chrysler because it was the closest feel to the outgoing pursuit cars. (RWD v8) Dunno if that's a good reason or not, but wonder at the business case.
How long do these cars serve?
Based on that, was $60k per car a better deal than vic's $120k diesel bmws?
Thinking about fuel consumption, maintenance costs and reliability.
Given Chryslers reliability :whistler: . I wonder who buys them once they are done, though from memory NSW leases their vehicles, so probably not their problem.
they look good, people with adventure in there blood and a working brain ( they can solve problems themselves ) they buy cars like that.
boring people buy cars that they think will never stop. but look uncool!!
Post by: Lakes on December 15, 2017, 18:12:16
as for you tv watcher's, have you noticed all your currant affairs is from another state not your own. they are desperate to get viewers!!
Post by: beerman on December 16, 2017, 11:51:33
Yep apparently they chose the chrysler because it was the closest feel to the outgoing pursuit cars. (RWD v8) Dunno if that's a good reason or not, but wonder at the business case.
How long do these cars serve?
Based on that, was $60k per car a better deal than vic's $120k diesel bmws?
Thinking about fuel consumption, maintenance costs and reliability.
Given Chryslers reliability :whistler: . I wonder who buys them once they are done, though from memory NSW leases their vehicles, so probably not their problem.
they look good, people with adventure in there blood and a working brain ( they can solve problems themselves ) they buy cars like that.
boring people buy cars that they think will never stop. but look uncool!!
At considerable discounts.... It took my wife 10 phone calls to me to get her car jump started and drive it to the mechanic to have a battery replaced under warranty. If that's adventure, you can have it :whistler:
Post by: Lakes on December 16, 2017, 21:44:24
Yep apparently they chose the chrysler because it was the closest feel to the outgoing pursuit cars. (RWD v8) Dunno if that's a good reason or not, but wonder at the business case.
How long do these cars serve?
Based on that, was $60k per car a better deal than vic's $120k diesel bmws?
Thinking about fuel consumption, maintenance costs and reliability.
Given Chryslers reliability :whistler: . I wonder who buys them once they are done, though from memory NSW leases their vehicles, so probably not their problem.
they look good, people with adventure in there blood and a working brain ( they can solve problems themselves ) they buy cars like that.
boring people buy cars that they think will never stop. but look uncool!!
At considerable discounts.... It took my wife 10 phone calls to me to get her car jump started and drive it to the mechanic to have a battery replaced under warranty. If that's adventure, you can have it :whistler:
not the car the battery, do you have a battery tender like you can have them wired to your battery with a easy plug in, when wife puts car away each night plug it in. tell's you if battery low too. all new cars use a lot of battery power, so these are a good idea as a lot of people just do short trips. so very hard on battery. I have used them on motor bikes for years then started using on car and ute.
I also have a simple light set up you hook up to battery it tell's how many volts can turn on motor turn on lights check charging systemm. they need about 11 volts or they can't run.
Post by: mickd on December 17, 2017, 00:08:23
Yep apparently they chose the chrysler because it was the closest feel to the outgoing pursuit cars. (RWD v8) Dunno if that's a good reason or not, but wonder at the business case.
How long do these cars serve?
Based on that, was $60k per car a better deal than vic's $120k diesel bmws?
Thinking about fuel consumption, maintenance costs and reliability.
Given Chryslers reliability :whistler: . I wonder who buys them once they are done, though from memory NSW leases their vehicles, so probably not their problem.
they look good, people with adventure in there blood and a working brain ( they can solve problems themselves ) they buy cars like that.
boring people buy cars that they think will never stop. but look uncool!!
At considerable discounts.... It took my wife 10 phone calls to me to get her car jump started and drive it to the mechanic to have a battery replaced under warranty. If that's adventure, you can have it :whistler:
not the car the battery, do you have a battery tender like you can have them wired to your battery with a easy plug in, when wife puts car away each night plug it in. tell's you if battery low too. all new cars use a lot of battery power, so these are a good idea as a lot of people just do short trips. so very hard on battery. I have used them on motor bikes for years then started using on car and ute.
I also have a simple light set up you hook up to battery it tell's how many volts can turn on motor turn on lights check charging systemm. they need about 11 volts or they can't run.
Yeah lakes, know what you're saying. When the Ford Rangers came out, everyone was getting flat batteries, due to extra radios and other chargers we were using. If you had a couple of radios
( different channels ) going and the laptop charging and sitting there with the AC on at idle, after about an hour, if you turned it off often it wouldn't start due to battery draining.
They don't charge at idle and only charge at a set rate to help fuel economy.
Post by: beerman on December 17, 2017, 01:03:14
Yep apparently they chose the chrysler because it was the closest feel to the outgoing pursuit cars. (RWD v8) Dunno if that's a good reason or not, but wonder at the business case.
How long do these cars serve?
Based on that, was $60k per car a better deal than vic's $120k diesel bmws?
Thinking about fuel consumption, maintenance costs and reliability.
Given Chryslers reliability :whistler: . I wonder who buys them once they are done, though from memory NSW leases their vehicles, so probably not their problem.
they look good, people with adventure in there blood and a working brain ( they can solve problems themselves ) they buy cars like that.
boring people buy cars that they think will never stop. but look uncool!!
At considerable discounts.... It took my wife 10 phone calls to me to get her car jump started and drive it to the mechanic to have a battery replaced under warranty. If that's adventure, you can have it :whistler:
not the car the battery, do you have a battery tender like you can have them wired to your battery with a easy plug in, when wife puts car away each night plug it in. tell's you if battery low too. all new cars use a lot of battery power, so these are a good idea as a lot of people just do short trips. so very hard on battery. I have used them on motor bikes for years then started using on car and ute.
I also have a simple light set up you hook up to battery it tell's how many volts can turn on motor turn on lights check charging systemm. they need about 11 volts or they can't run.
I used that as an example of my Wife's problem solving AFTER she had already been told the answer. As for getting her to pop the bonnet at the end of the day and hook up a battery tender..... :rofl:
Post by: Lakes on December 17, 2017, 04:55:27
Yep apparently they chose the chrysler because it was the closest feel to the outgoing pursuit cars. (RWD v8) Dunno if that's a good reason or not, but wonder at the business case.
How long do these cars serve?
Based on that, was $60k per car a better deal than vic's $120k diesel bmws?
Thinking about fuel consumption, maintenance costs and reliability.
Given Chryslers reliability :whistler: . I wonder who buys them once they are done, though from memory NSW leases their vehicles, so probably not their problem.
they look good, people with adventure in there blood and a working brain ( they can solve problems themselves ) they buy cars like that.
boring people buy cars that they think will never stop. but look uncool!!
At considerable discounts.... It took my wife 10 phone calls to me to get her car jump started and drive it to the mechanic to have a battery replaced under warranty. If that's adventure, you can have it :whistler:
not the car the battery, do you have a battery tender like you can have them wired to your battery with a easy plug in, when wife puts car away each night plug it in. tell's you if battery low too. all new cars use a lot of battery power, so these are a good idea as a lot of people just do short trips. so very hard on battery. I have used them on motor bikes for years then started using on car and ute.
I also have a simple light set up you hook up to battery it tell's how many volts can turn on motor turn on lights check charging systemm. they need about 11 volts or they can't run.
I used that as an example of my Wife's problem solving AFTER she had already been told the answer. As for getting her to pop the bonnet at the end of the day and hook up a battery tender..... :rofl:
can understand what you mean.
mates partner had horses used a Range Rover discovery, was always costing her money.
she had a battery issue, I asked her lift hood, I hooked up the gizmo I have that lights up how many volt battery has. it was reading 12volt so told her to start in then rev to 3k as was diesel was still only showing 12volt should increase to 13 volt to indicate regulator working. so told her not the battery see auto electrician. she got it fixed.
that sounds like trouble mick.
you can pick up one of those gizmo's at most auto parts, easy to read and gives you an idea. the idea for wife is if battery not charging catch the bus. lol
Post by: Lakes on December 17, 2017, 05:04:46
NSW likes their pursuits.. Auto expert doesn't. . :evil: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
http://youtu.be/dhM_-D__Eec (http://youtu.be/dhM_-D__Eec)
dazz I'm all for cop's working and not budging.
like if they see you speeding I want to be pulled up and booked then I know.
if they don't pull you up and book you, unknown to your self, thats budging.
speed camera's political donation's you don't know about. and some get the whole family involved . so the speeder gets away Scott free was his mum or his sister driving.
so good on new cop's I have not personally meet a bad cop myself, they are fair, they have skill and they have the right tool's, like well set up cars for higher speed's.
if I meet your mate. I'll play the old Elvis song, less conversion more bite.
Post by: Dazzler on December 17, 2017, 07:06:00
Post by: Lakes on December 17, 2017, 08:28:49
Yeah, I'm supportive of cops too John. I don't want them to sit on their hands. Maybe they should have better camera setups that will give photographic evidence of who was driving. If they can intercept them quickly, that's fine. But, if they do a runner it's not worth innocent lives when they run a red light getting away. :undecided:
someone once told me in Japan , when you drive you had to put your licence in a holder or something. the speed camera's picked that up, also had to put credit card in another holder and they took the money out of credit card.
I'm not a fan of credit card's or auto deduction, I like to count my money and watch it go!
say what you like but thats how I see it, cash is a legal tender so no way they should try to legally rob your bank account via credit or debit card. amen
Post by: i30premy on May 19, 2018, 23:20:58
Proposed NSW HWP Cars (http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/motoring-news/nsw-police-get-bmw-and-chrysler-highway-patrol-cars-as-holdens-and-fords-are-phased-out/news-story/4939a2c6d34152d18370f6a684155726)
Post by: Dazzler on May 19, 2018, 23:28:05
Post by: Cookie Thumper on May 19, 2018, 23:47:45
Yep apparently they chose the chrysler because it was the closest feel to the outgoing pursuit cars. (RWD v8) Dunno if that's a good reason or not, but wonder at the business case.
How long do these cars serve?
Based on that, was $60k per car a better deal than vic's $120k diesel bmws?
Thinking about fuel consumption, maintenance costs and reliability.
Given Chryslers reliability :whistler: . I wonder who buys them once they are done, though from memory NSW leases their vehicles, so probably not their problem.
I'd love an ex-chaser 300 SRT !!
Post by: beerman on July 06, 2018, 03:11:01
(https://carimages.com.au/J-5xsQZu-rhDP_b6dBskFrboXi8=/fit-in/930x620/filters:stretch(FFFFFF)/editorial/118767/qld-police-choose-kia-stinger-539.jpg)
:link: QLD Police choose Kia Stinger | Drive.com.au (http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/qld-police-choose-kia-stinger-118767.html?ffref=brisbanetimes&trackLink=SMH0)
Post by: Dazzler on July 06, 2018, 09:16:22