Post by: JHI30 on December 07, 2017, 02:39:27
I need to replace my turbo on my 2008 crdi after 200,000km. I’ve been quoted a ridiculous amount to replace it. I already have the Garret replacement turbo and wanted to give this a go myself. Has anyone done this before themselves? It doesn’t appear to be too difficult but wanted to know if there’s anything important I need to know about? I have new oil, gaskets, oil feed line etc... Has anyone got a workshop manual that details the step / process? Just want to make sure I’m not missing anything
Thanks in advance.
Jim.
Post by: Dazzler on December 07, 2017, 06:04:11
What do you consider to be a ridiculous amount? Have you rebuilt an engine or part of one before? Hope someone who can help you sees this. :cool:
Post by: mickd on December 07, 2017, 06:07:58
Well sounds like your raring to get stuck in.
I can't help you but, just to help the tech heads a bit, could you list the garret number and details for them please 👍
Post by: JHI30 on December 07, 2017, 13:09:14
Hi Jim,
What do you consider to be a ridiculous amount? Have you rebuilt an engine or part of one before? Hope someone who can help you sees this. :cool:
They’re asking $500 plus. One guy wanted $1100 lol. I’ve replaced a turbo in a car some time ago but wanted to know if there’s anything in particular I should know before I pull it apart.
Post by: JHI30 on December 07, 2017, 13:19:02
Hi,
Well sounds like your raring to get stuck in.
I can't help you but, just to help the tech heads a bit, could you list the garret number and details for them please
The turbo is a Garrett 282012A400
Thanks
Post by: Dazzler on December 07, 2017, 19:18:43
Hi Jim,
What do you consider to be a ridiculous amount? Have you rebuilt an engine or part of one before? Hope someone who can help you sees this. :cool:
They’re asking $500 plus. One guy wanted $1100 lol. I’ve replaced a turbo in a car some time ago but wanted to know if there’s anything in particular I should know before I pull it apart.
I would have thought $500 was reasonable if they know what they are doing and are happy to guarantee their work. $1100 is getting up there.
The fact you have done one before is obviously a big plus.
@tw2005 @nzenigma @cruiserfied can you offer any help/tips for this member?
Post by: Asterix on December 07, 2017, 19:19:52
You must remove the exhaust manifold with the turbo attached, then detach the turbo. All work possible from top of engine, except the oil pipe from turbo to oilpan must be removed from underside. I did this in my carport with just a normal jack so it's possible DIY work. I spend ca 4-5 hours I think.
Mine lasted 280.000 before replacement.. :mrgreen:
Post by: Dazzler on December 07, 2017, 19:23:27
I just replaced the turbo on my 2008 CRDi last month.
You must remove the exhaust manifold with the turbo attached, then detach the turbo. All work possible from top of engine, except the oil pipe from turbo to oilpan must be removed from underside. I did this in my carport with just a normal jack so it's possible DIY work. I spend ca 4-5 hours I think.
Mine lasted 280.000 before replacement.. :mrgreen:
Awesome, thanks for that Henning. Did you pick up a new turbo or a good 2nd hand one? :cool:
Post by: Asterix on December 07, 2017, 19:39:29
I just replaced the turbo on my 2008 CRDi last month.
You must remove the exhaust manifold with the turbo attached, then detach the turbo. All work possible from top of engine, except the oil pipe from turbo to oilpan must be removed from underside. I did this in my carport with just a normal jack so it's possible DIY work. I spend ca 4-5 hours I think.
Mine lasted 280.000 before replacement.. :mrgreen:
Awesome, thanks for that Henning. Did you pick up a new turbo or a good 2nd hand one? :cool:
Well, I did buy a new, but it turned up to be wrong part, was missing a threaded hole for a sensor. Supplier couldn't find a suitable one for my model so he got the old one in his repairshop to be refurbished. Now there's no "ambulance siren" sound when accelerating.. :P
Post by: Dazzler on December 07, 2017, 20:21:39
I just replaced the turbo on my 2008 CRDi last month.
You must remove the exhaust manifold with the turbo attached, then detach the turbo. All work possible from top of engine, except the oil pipe from turbo to oilpan must be removed from underside. I did this in my carport with just a normal jack so it's possible DIY work. I spend ca 4-5 hours I think.
Mine lasted 280.000 before replacement.. :mrgreen:
Awesome, thanks for that Henning. Did you pick up a new turbo or a good 2nd hand one? :cool:
Well, I did buy a new, but it turned up to be wrong part, was missing a threaded hole for a sensor. Supplier couldn't find a suitable one for my model so he got the old one in his repairshop to be refurbished. Now there's no "ambulance siren" sound when accelerating.. :P
:goodjob2: :goodjob:
Post by: nzenigma on December 07, 2017, 20:34:07
Hi Jim,
What do you consider to be a ridiculous amount? Have you rebuilt an engine or part of one before? Hope someone who can help you sees this. :cool:
They’re asking $500 plus. One guy wanted $1100 lol. I’ve replaced a turbo in a car some time ago but wanted to know if there’s anything in particular I should know before I pull it apart.
I agree with Daz $500 is quite reasonable , a good workshop will charge about $120/hr.
Henning has covered all you need to know. Thanks to him :goodjob2:
Nothing exceptional about the job, especially if you have done this sort of work before.
Cheers.
Post by: tw2005 on December 07, 2017, 22:52:05
Hi Jim,
What do you consider to be a ridiculous amount? Have you rebuilt an engine or part of one before? Hope someone who can help you sees this. :cool:
They’re asking $500 plus. One guy wanted $1100 lol. I’ve replaced a turbo in a car some time ago but wanted to know if there’s anything in particular I should know before I pull it apart.
I agree with Daz $500 is quite reasonable , a good workshop will charge about $120/hr.
Henning has covered all you need to know. Thanks to him :goodjob2:
Nothing exceptional about the job, especially if you have done this sort of work before.
Cheers.
Had a look in the manual. As stated nothing irregular , normal R & R , attention to detail and correct torque values. pretty boring really.
Post by: Dazzler on December 08, 2017, 01:53:02
Hi Jim,
What do you consider to be a ridiculous amount? Have you rebuilt an engine or part of one before? Hope someone who can help you sees this. :cool:
They’re asking $500 plus. One guy wanted $1100 lol. I’ve replaced a turbo in a car some time ago but wanted to know if there’s anything in particular I should know before I pull it apart.
I agree with Daz $500 is quite reasonable , a good workshop will charge about $120/hr.
Henning has covered all you need to know. Thanks to him :goodjob2:
Nothing exceptional about the job, especially if you have done this sort of work before.
Cheers.
Had a look in the manual. As stated nothing irregular , normal R & R , attention to detail and correct torque values. pretty boring really.
Talking about torque values maybe JH will need those?
Post by: sundiz on December 08, 2017, 03:45:09
I just replaced the turbo on my 2008 CRDi last month.
You must remove the exhaust manifold with the turbo attached, then detach the turbo. All work possible from top of engine, except the oil pipe from turbo to oilpan must be removed from underside. I did this in my carport with just a normal jack so it's possible DIY work. I spend ca 4-5 hours I think.
Mine lasted 280.000 before replacement.. :mrgreen:
Did you happen to take any pictures while doing the job? How were the nuts and bolts after high mileage? I had to use impact gun just to remove the exhaust heat shield when under 100k km...
Post by: nzenigma on December 08, 2017, 07:56:22
Irrespective of the weather conditions, best wishes for the past 100 years. :goodjob2: :)
Post by: JHI30 on December 08, 2017, 14:00:48
I just replaced the turbo on my 2008 CRDi last month.Thanks for this info, much appreciated. Glad that most of the work can be done from top of the engine. I’ve had a look and there appears to be adequate room to move. I’ll be giving this a go on the weekend.
You must remove the exhaust manifold with the turbo attached, then detach the turbo. All work possible from top of engine, except the oil pipe from turbo to oilpan must be removed from underside. I did this in my carport with just a normal jack so it's possible DIY work. I spend ca 4-5 hours I think.
Mine lasted 280.000 before replacement.. :mrgreen:
Post by: JHI30 on December 08, 2017, 14:02:36
If someone has these torque settings, would be gold!Hi Jim,
What do you consider to be a ridiculous amount? Have you rebuilt an engine or part of one before? Hope someone who can help you sees this. :cool:
They’re asking $500 plus. One guy wanted $1100 lol. I’ve replaced a turbo in a car some time ago but wanted to know if there’s anything in particular I should know before I pull it apart.
I agree with Daz $500 is quite reasonable , a good workshop will charge about $120/hr.
Henning has covered all you need to know. Thanks to him :goodjob2:
Nothing exceptional about the job, especially if you have done this sort of work before.
Cheers.
Had a look in the manual. As stated nothing irregular , normal R & R , attention to detail and correct torque values. pretty boring really.
Talking about torque values maybe JH will need those?
Post by: Asterix on December 09, 2017, 10:59:05
I just replaced the turbo on my 2008 CRDi last month.
You must remove the exhaust manifold with the turbo attached, then detach the turbo. All work possible from top of engine, except the oil pipe from turbo to oilpan must be removed from underside. I did this in my carport with just a normal jack so it's possible DIY work. I spend ca 4-5 hours I think.
Mine lasted 280.000 before replacement.. :mrgreen:
Did you happen to take any pictures while doing the job? How were the nuts and bolts after high mileage? I had to use impact gun just to remove the exhaust heat shield when under 100k km...
No pic's, sorry. I was working outside in the evening with poor light, but everything could be removed with normal handtools. It amazes me every time I need to do a little work on my Hy how easy it is to work on. A German car that age and milage would have everything rusted together..
Post by: Asterix on December 09, 2017, 11:01:17
If someone has these torque settings, would be gold!Hi Jim,
What do you consider to be a ridiculous amount? Have you rebuilt an engine or part of one before? Hope someone who can help you sees this. :cool:
They’re asking $500 plus. One guy wanted $1100 lol. I’ve replaced a turbo in a car some time ago but wanted to know if there’s anything in particular I should know before I pull it apart.
I agree with Daz $500 is quite reasonable , a good workshop will charge about $120/hr.
Henning has covered all you need to know. Thanks to him :goodjob2:
Nothing exceptional about the job, especially if you have done this sort of work before.
Cheers.
Had a look in the manual. As stated nothing irregular , normal R & R , attention to detail and correct torque values. pretty boring really.
Talking about torque values maybe JH will need those?
I use "adequate torque by hand" settings... :mrgreen:
Post by: JHI30 on December 12, 2017, 09:30:48
Thanks for your input with replacing the turbo. All went well with install. I have an issue though. When I first start the car (when engine is cold) everything appears to be fine. Once engine is warm it seems like the turbo becomes louder. It’s very odd. The turbo is brand new but it sounds like it’s the bearings. Could bearings actually become noisy in the turbo once it’s warmed up? It has me baffled. It’s a really odd whine noise, I wouldn’t even call it a whine but more of a grinding / rubbing sound. Anyone have an idea what this could be?
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Post by: Dazzler on December 12, 2017, 10:03:43
Post by: Asterix on December 12, 2017, 16:46:11
Hi All,
Thanks for your input with replacing the turbo. All went well with install. I have an issue though. When I first start the car (when engine is cold) everything appears to be fine. Once engine is warm it seems like the turbo becomes louder. It’s very odd. The turbo is brand new but it sounds like it’s the bearings. Could bearings actually become noisy in the turbo once it’s warmed up? It has me baffled. It’s a really odd whine noise, I wouldn’t even call it a whine but more of a grinding / rubbing sound. Anyone have an idea what this could be?
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There should be no noise at all from the turbo, cold or warm. After I replaced mine I can't even hear the turbo spool up, before it was like an ambulance chasing me.
Post by: nzenigma on December 12, 2017, 20:18:24
When I first start the car (when engine is cold) everything appears to be fine. Once engine is warm it seems like the turbo becomes louder. It’s very odd. The turbo is brand new but it sounds like it’s the bearings. Could bearings actually become noisy in the turbo once it’s warmed up? ...more of a grinding / rubbing sound.
I'm with Asterix, should be quiet.
I would not keep driving with it making that noise. Have you checked that the oil feed is clear and working? If it is bearing noise, or lack of lubricant, it should be looked at pronto.
If lube is ok and if it is a genuine Garrett turbo, return it now.
Post by: JHI30 on December 13, 2017, 09:36:34
When I first start the car (when engine is cold) everything appears to be fine. Once engine is warm it seems like the turbo becomes louder. It’s very odd. The turbo is brand new but it sounds like it’s the bearings. Could bearings actually become noisy in the turbo once it’s warmed up? ...more of a grinding / rubbing sound.
I'm with Asterix, should be quiet.
I would not keep driving with it making that noise. Have you checked that the oil feed is clear and working? If it is bearing noise, or lack of lubricant, it should be looked at pronto.
If lube is ok and if it is a genuine Garrett turbo, return it now.
Yeah, oil feed line is all clear. I think I’ll remove and return. Just a pain to do it all again. Thanks everyone for your input and advice. I’ll let everyone know how it goes the second time round.
Post by: JHI30 on December 31, 2017, 04:17:50
I just replaced the turbo on my 2008 CRDi last month.I have to do mine all over again due to a faulty turbo. The shaft play in the new turbo ended up being worse than the original! So I sent it back and I’ve got another to put back on
You must remove the exhaust manifold with the turbo attached, then detach the turbo. All work possible from top of engine, except the oil pipe from turbo to oilpan must be removed from underside. I did this in my carport with just a normal jack so it's possible DIY work. I spend ca 4-5 hours I think.
Mine lasted 280.000 before replacement.. :mrgreen:
question though, how do you take off the gold metal pipe that bolts onto the manifold? I can remove it from the manifold side but I can’t fit any tools to remove the two nuts on the opposite end. Here’s a pic of that pipe. I left it on last time but unbolted the manifold end. It still gets in the way trying to manoeuvre the manifold to remove it. Would be a lot easier if it was removed. Any advice?Post by: tw2005 on December 31, 2017, 04:42:02
I just replaced the turbo on my 2008 CRDi last month.I have to do mine all over again due to a faulty turbo. The shaft play in the new turbo ended up being worse than the original! So I sent it back and I’ve got another to put back on
You must remove the exhaust manifold with the turbo attached, then detach the turbo. All work possible from top of engine, except the oil pipe from turbo to oilpan must be removed from underside. I did this in my carport with just a normal jack so it's possible DIY work. I spend ca 4-5 hours I think.
Mine lasted 280.000 before replacement.. :mrgreen:
Well, would you believe I just happened to replace one myself last week, 2 days in the searing Sun on th eside of the road. :crazy1:
I removed the EGR with that attached but I was hampered by the short water hose under neath which I eventually removed to give claer access to the bolts.
Can't advise on the smartest or correct manner but a lot of cursing was involved at the time.
(https://i.imgur.com/i4X3rPL.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/qe4XjCR.jpg)
Post by: tw2005 on December 31, 2017, 04:49:44
Post by: nzenigma on December 31, 2017, 08:07:14
Post by: Asterix on December 31, 2017, 12:06:56
Post by: JHI30 on December 31, 2017, 14:34:43
Thanks for sharing your experience. Sounds like a pain in the rear! Which is why I left it on. I made sure I was extra careful not to bend it too much. Do you have to drain your coolant before removing this EGR?I just replaced the turbo on my 2008 CRDi last month.I have to do mine all over again due to a faulty turbo. The shaft play in the new turbo ended up being worse than the original! So I sent it back and I’ve got another to put back on
You must remove the exhaust manifold with the turbo attached, then detach the turbo. All work possible from top of engine, except the oil pipe from turbo to oilpan must be removed from underside. I did this in my carport with just a normal jack so it's possible DIY work. I spend ca 4-5 hours I think.
Mine lasted 280.000 before replacement.. :mrgreen:
Well, would you believe I just happened to replace one myself last week, 2 days in the searing Sun on th eside of the road. :crazy1:
I removed the EGR with that attached but I was hampered by the short water hose under neath which I eventually removed to give claer access to the bolts.
Can't advise on the smartest or correct manner but a lot of cursing was involved at the time.
(https://i.imgur.com/i4X3rPL.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/qe4XjCR.jpg)
Post by: JHI30 on December 31, 2017, 14:37:24
Are you priming the Turbo with oil in the feed port?
Yeah, I made sure I did do this. Brand new oil, oil filter and air filter. Cleaned out all the pipes etc..
Post by: JHI30 on December 31, 2017, 14:47:39
I am also interested in the faulty replacement. :( Who supplied it? I assumed it was new. Is it a Chinese knock off of the original?Yep brand new. Am I allowed to mention the place on here? Wouldn’t surprise me if it was a Chinese knock off. If it was, they made a very good copy visually! The company is in Korea. I had previously bought parts from them before without any issues.
Post by: JHI30 on December 31, 2017, 14:51:12
Hmm I only used spanners and wrenches. I didn't remove the EGR as TW but I can only repeat him; a lot of cursing was involved at the time.Did you actually manage to remove the pipe without the EGR?
Post by: tw2005 on December 31, 2017, 19:15:12
Post by: nzenigma on December 31, 2017, 20:11:09
Cant see why not, we are just sharing our experiences. @Dazzler 's call.I am also interested in the faulty replacement. :( Who supplied it? I assumed it was new. Is it a Chinese knock off of the original?Yep brand new. Am I allowed to mention the place on here? Wouldn’t surprise me if it was a Chinese knock off. If it was, they made a very good copy visually! The company is in Korea. I had previously bought parts from them before without any issues.
Post by: Asterix on December 31, 2017, 20:59:19
Yep :mrgreen:Hmm I only used spanners and wrenches. I didn't remove the EGR as TW but I can only repeat him; a lot of cursing was involved at the time.Did you actually manage to remove the pipe without the EGR?
Post by: JHI30 on December 31, 2017, 22:58:03
Wow! Well doneYep :mrgreen:Hmm I only used spanners and wrenches. I didn't remove the EGR as TW but I can only repeat him; a lot of cursing was involved at the time.Did you actually manage to remove the pipe without the EGR?
Post by: Dazzler on December 31, 2017, 23:34:54
Post by: JHI30 on January 01, 2018, 00:01:23
Yep, no problem mentioning them. Seems they've done the right thing anyway. :goodjob:Company is kpartsmall in Korea. They ignored every email I sent them. I was sick of waiting so sourced another turbo elsewhere as I needed my car. Their returns policy states you put in a return request, send the faulty part back and they will contact you once they receive the item, either refund or replace and reimburse your shipping costs. So in the end I did that. Now it gets better. DHL rings me and says they are unable to contact them lol. The turbo was stuck in uncontrollable customs for a week. It’s now been escalated to PayPal. Fingers crossed I get my money back. Obviously something dodgy has occurred with this company if they are not responding or able to be contacted. Lesson learnt for me now
Post by: Dazzler on January 01, 2018, 01:06:56
Post by: The Gonz on January 01, 2018, 03:17:06
Post by: Dazzler on January 01, 2018, 04:33:49
I get the impression they've gone out of business. :confused:
What gives you that impression?
:link: Kpartsmall-Hyundai Kia GM Ssangyong parts (http://kpartsmall.com/)
Post by: The Gonz on January 01, 2018, 04:47:38
I can knock up a website like that in less than an hour, then not answer any calls or emails. :whistler: :lol:I get the impression they've gone out of business. :confused:
What gives you that impression?
:link: Kpartsmall-Hyundai Kia GM Ssangyong parts (http://kpartsmall.com/)
Post by: JHI30 on January 01, 2018, 05:24:21
I get the impression they've gone out of business. :confused:
Yeah. Let’s see what happens 🤞
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Post by: tw2005 on January 01, 2018, 07:42:12
Yeah, and you'll be Gonz with the wind!I can knock up a website like that in less than an hour, then not answer any calls or emails. :whistler: :lol:I get the impression they've gone out of business. :confused:
What gives you that impression?
:link: Kpartsmall-Hyundai Kia GM Ssangyong parts (http://kpartsmall.com/)
Post by: The Gonz on January 01, 2018, 08:08:07
Gonz with the wind!:lol: :victory:
Post by: simon@mgr on January 01, 2018, 11:54:13
Post by: The Gonz on January 01, 2018, 12:01:38
After beans or curry?:kissmyass: :lol:
Post by: nzenigma on January 01, 2018, 21:49:49
Yeah, and you'll be Gonz with the wind! :rofl:I can knock up a website like that in less than an hour, then not answer any calls or emails. :whistler: :lol:I get the impression they've gone out of business. :confused:
What gives you that impression?
:link: Kpartsmall-Hyundai Kia GM Ssangyong parts (http://kpartsmall.com/)
From the New Auxford Ductionary:
Gonz a word or one-liner used to amuse or baffle the reader.
Gonzer one whose vocabulary is dominated by the use of Gonz words.
Gonzed to be a victim of a Gonzer .
:whistler: :whistler: :whistler: :whistler:
Post by: tw2005 on January 01, 2018, 22:25:03
NZ or AU Edition? Must get a copy :razz:Yeah, and you'll be Gonz with the wind! :rofl:I can knock up a website like that in less than an hour, then not answer any calls or emails. :whistler: :lol:I get the impression they've gone out of business. :confused:
What gives you that impression?
:link: Kpartsmall-Hyundai Kia GM Ssangyong parts (http://kpartsmall.com/)
From the New Auxford Ductionary:
Gonz a word or one-liner used to amuse or baffle the reader.
Gonzer one whose vocabulary is dominated by the use of Gonz words.
Gonzed to be a victim of a Gonzer .
:whistler: :whistler: :whistler: :whistler:
Post by: nzenigma on January 01, 2018, 23:07:22
Post by: tw2005 on January 01, 2018, 23:15:21
:confused: Its a concise ductionary
Right, so one page and one word.
Wonder how ol mate is getting on and if he's spooled up that Turbo yet?