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GENERAL STUFF => ADVICE FOR POTENTIAL BUYERS => Topic started by: ssen0001 on April 24, 2018, 16:12:36
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hi guys, my name is shreyan. just a quick query as i am a bit naive about cars to be honest.
i am planning to buy a i30 2009 slx with 200000kms on the odometer.. the car as i have inspected looks fine and has got full service history , the dealer said its not much city driven. the kilometers are due to mostly country side driving. is it a good option to consider with the amount of kilometers its been driven? open to any suggestions
thanks
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Welcome ssen0001
KM's aren't to bad for the age of the vehicle, is it petrol or diesel? there should be many more km's left in her yet if looked after correctly, especially with the diesel :) though I'd suggest getting an independent vehicle inspection done.
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its a petrol 2.0 engine. the inspection report from the dealer seems fine. like literally i had it for a test drive. seemed good. just worrying if the car is capable of bearing the kms. also some light on maintenance costs for i130 with these many kms is helpful. the dealer told me he had already put in new tyres, oil filters and a bit more and everything seems fine is what i could make out from the kinda stuff he was talking about. but its just the kms preventing me to decide
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Even with the petrol the km's shouldn't be an issue if it's been respectfully driven and well maintained, does the dealers inspection mention anything about suspension - brakes? independent inspections are worthwhile imo, cant always trust a dealer :whistler:
From the service booklet you can find the stamp of whoever has serviced it to get a better history on the vehicle.
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thanks for the advice, much appreciated. if you'd had to quote a no of kms a decently driven i30 could do? what would be it? just curious about the life of the cars in years. like i've heard toyotas last around a 500-600k mark. something similar for comparison?
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I'm not sure of the amount of km's to expect overall, best to wait for some replies from members who hopefully have experienced some higher km petrol 2ltr's.
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Auto or man? If it was diesel I have one manual tracking towards 400000K.
For a petrol, timing belt comes to mind. Traditionally every 5 year or 100000K but could be even at 90000k
It would want to be cheap with those Ks, there's heaps of FDs on the market, I would get an independent inspection and not rely on the selling dealers report.
Drivetrain maybe perfect but suspension components at that distance could be tired, shocks and stabiliser bushes come to mind. the front of two of mine tend to groan after a long journey on the sway bar bushes, not always evident with a quick drive, also rear shocks i've had them go off and cause tyres to be scalloped or th einner edge get squared off and become noisy, so all mine now have KYBs fitted and needed doing before 200000k.
Other weaknesses would be the inner chrome door handles snap as the plastic fatigues, chrome peels off and can be razor sharp, Sunvisors too at the pivot points can break or crack, power window mechanisms also fail with the plastic mounts snapping, drivers would normally be first to go as most used. make sure it's operating smoothly and quietly. if it's squealing or making a lot of creaking carcking noise it could be close. You don't get much warning.
Other things at this distance potentially, alternator brushes can be getting close to worn out, not something you could check, wear and tear.
How's the coolant condition, brake fluid conditon, likewise the clutch master fluid if it's manual, if it's auto what's the fluid like in that.
If auto all gear changes smooth and normal, any delays in gear engagement when selected, these can have valve body issues.
Are the brakes feeling good, no vibration or shudders from distorted discs, how thick are the brake pads, are they nearly worn out or have heaps of material.
Knock or rattles in the steering?
apart from that can't think of much more. Good cars but like anything things will wear or break along the way.
I own 3 but all diesel, I have a hatch 222000k and no major issues, redone the suspension , new bushes, about to do ball joints and sway bar. Rides really firm with the fresh KYBs does have a bit of a steering rattle these can develop other wise it's solid, done a window mech a coupls of times, now, leather sterring wheel was worn . It was a high mileage car that had been serviced but well maintained and looke quite new.
Something driven long distances and with good history can often be better than lower k, no history stop start driving for sure.
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What type of use will you be doing?
Long or short trips?
Town or country?
I ask as depending on use may decide whether independent inspection and or price requested by seller.
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Welcome shreyan,
As usual our brilliant members have covered most of the obvious already. Just a few further thoughts..
You seem very trusting. While there are good yards out there, many are full of $hit with regards to their inspections etc...
Check the oil. Is it nice and clean? Just because they said they did an oil change, doesn't guarantee they did...
I prefer the 5 speed manual in the 2009 FD series over the 4 speed auto. But at that mileage, if it is a manual, you'd need to check how the clutch is wearing.
When they say the put new tyre on do they look new. Hopefully they put a name brand on and not some cheap chinese brand like Diamondbacks... :snigger:
Looking at this if all the obvious things check out ok, it might be worth the cost of an independent inspection by a trusted mechanic or the RAC if it is under $7000. (although closer to $6K would be nice)
http://www.carsales.com.au/cars/dealer/hyundai/i30/slx-badge/petrol-unleaded-ulp-fueltype/?sortby=~Price&offset=0&setype=sort&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqPz6oerT2gIVQiUrCh1ujQq2EAAYASABEgJxsPD_BwE (http://www.carsales.com.au/cars/dealer/hyundai/i30/slx-badge/petrol-unleaded-ulp-fueltype/?sortby=~Price&offset=0&setype=sort&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqPz6oerT2gIVQiUrCh1ujQq2EAAYASABEgJxsPD_BwE)
Take your time (if you can) and good luck... :Good_luck:
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thank you everyone.. il be mainly doing suburban driving.. i prefer an auto over manual just for ease
the car i am talking about is here
:link: 2009 Hyundai i30 SLX Auto MY09 (https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Hyundai-i30-2009/OAG-AD-15873816/?Cr=4)
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thank you everyone.. il be mainly doing suburban driving.. i prefer an auto over manual just for ease
the car i am talking about is here
:link: 2009 Hyundai i30 SLX Auto MY09 (https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Hyundai-i30-2009/OAG-AD-15873816/?Cr=4)
I thought that might have been it. From the pictures it does look like a well loved car. The upholstery and paintwork suggest it has been treated fairly kindly. Although obviously can't tell from a few small photos if it has had accident repairs or anything.
The Auto transmission can be an expensive fix if the valve body starts playing up, so as mentioned previously steer clear if there is any delay when you select reverse or drive.
Any aftermarket warranty that a wholesale yard will throw in isn't usually worth the paper it is written on. Usually you have to pay half of any repair and there are lots of outs. So if you can get them under 7 and everything else checks out including service books (and 2 remote keys?) I'd be tempted to pay for an independent check. :cool:
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does look good, definitely need to find out and get evidence thetiming belt is done. I think the HYundais are interference engines and can be expensive. I'd want it sub 7 grand if it needs the belt which also should have tensioner and pulleys done at the same time.
How about a Fly drive to perth and back
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/como/cars-vans-utes/2010-hyundai-i30-auto-hatch/1181636189 (https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/como/cars-vans-utes/2010-hyundai-i30-auto-hatch/1181636189)
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thank you everyone.. il be mainly doing suburban driving.. i prefer an auto over manual just for ease
the car i am talking about is here
:link: 2009 Hyundai i30 SLX Auto MY09 (https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Hyundai-i30-2009/OAG-AD-15873816/?Cr=4)
A friend of mine bought a 2012 2ltr SX model in the same colour as that a few weeks ago, nice colour :goodjob2: she got her one for $7000 with 37000km's on it.
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thank you everyone.. il be mainly doing suburban driving.. i prefer an auto over manual just for ease
the car i am talking about is here
:link: 2009 Hyundai i30 SLX Auto MY09 (https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Hyundai-i30-2009/OAG-AD-15873816/?Cr=4)
A friend of mine bought a 2012 2ltr SX model in the same colour as that a few weeks ago, nice colour :goodjob2: she got her one for $7000 with 37000km's on it.
Craig, that's an absolute bargain.
Bought Kate's FD 2012 Trophy 2.0 5sp with 55k km for 9750
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thank you everyone.. il be mainly doing suburban driving.. i prefer an auto over manual just for ease
the car i am talking about is here
:link: 2009 Hyundai i30 SLX Auto MY09 (https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Hyundai-i30-2009/OAG-AD-15873816/?Cr=4)
A friend of mine bought a 2012 2ltr SX model in the same colour as that a few weeks ago, nice colour :goodjob2: she got her one for $7000 with 37000km's on it.
I notice WA vehicles can be very cheap even Pickles fixed price if I had to pick which state was cheapest it'd be WA.
What are your thoughts?
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Craig, that's an absolute bargain.
Bought Kate's FD 2012 Trophy 2.0 5sp with 55k km for 9750
Yeah they got a good score, private sale from one little old lady owner who only sold it because of her age, much higher mileage one's about for around 9k
I notice WA vehicles can be very cheap even Pickles fixed price if I had to pick which state was cheapest it'd be WA.
What are your thoughts?
I don't think we're much different from other states :undecided: I don't monitor the auctions or interstate dealer prices to really compare though :neutral:
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Bought Kate's FD 2012 Trophy 2.0 5sp with 55k km for 9750
Mick, That's a low Ks car and a good price for a Trophy. :goodjob2:
A guy we both know :whistler: recently sold an immaculate 2011 Auto with a mere 24,500km on the clock for $8500.
But the market is dead: selling virtually a new car but, over three days he only had two phone calls. 2nd caller snapped it up.
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Bought Kate's FD 2012 Trophy 2.0 5sp with 55k km for 9750
Mick, That's a low Ks car and a good price for a Trophy. :goodjob2:
A guy we both know :whistler: recently sold an immaculate 2011 Auto with a mere 24,500km on the clock for $8500.
But the market is dead: selling virtually a new car but, over three days he only had two phone calls. 2nd caller snapped it up.
there was a Feb 2010 silver SR yesterday, auto, 136000k was about to link it when it sold same day on Ebay, $6500
likely 1 owner, plates would be original rego
(https://i.imgur.com/EZcq1Vj.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/rulrgcF.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/vYEdTvT.jpg)
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That was cheap, irrespective of previous body repair (LR door) and well over the magic 100K. km
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Well off course now, but, hello dog :D
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Well off course now, but, hello dog :D
:cool: thought you would appreciate them , the addition is Bogart :D
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mine is 2010 with 230000 km, drives smooth, auto transmission seems to work fine although a bit jumpy from time to time. only things that went wrong are 3 window switches, crankshaft position sensor and wheel alignment.
bought it with just over 200000 km ex lease and ex company car. got it very cheap.
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.......and well over the magic 100K. km
If you have been around these i30 s for a while you appreciate the reliable Kms they are achieving. Unfortunately, most car buyers have a 100K barrier in their minds. It used to be 100,000 miles until we went metric , almost overnight 100,000km became the criteria. :crazy1:
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.......and well over the magic 100K. km
If you have been around these i30 s for a while you appreciate the reliable Kms they are achieving. Unfortunately, most car buyers have a 100K barrier in their minds. It used to be 100,000 miles until we went metric , almost overnight 100,000km became the criteria. :crazy1:
100% agree, until I got hooked on diesels anything with 200000k would be out of the question. And now with my latest, well. You just need to maintain things as they wear and do all the right things and they just keep running.
Of course you can destroy a car very quickly ignoring the basics of maintenance.
Jumped into my 220000K auto hatch which WAS my car the boy has hijacked :groan: yesterdayt get new tyres on the front.
rebushed front, new ball joints and new kybs all round and out of the 3, it's the quietest, a nd a nice sporty feel to it. the CW has the newest feel. I just need to chip away on the sway bar on the tractor with a clunk there
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Geez mate, almost finished ..... watch out, she will have you back doing housework again. :mrgreen:
You missed your new project last week. Stolen/Recovered 2017 PD for $9000, in perfect condition....basically. :happydance:
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Geez mate, almost finished ..... watch out, she will have you back doing housework again. :mrgreen:
You missed your new project last week. Stolen/Recovered 2017 PD for $9000, in perfect condition....basically. :happydance:
Is said item located in a shed near you?
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no mate too expensive :D
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Our 2012 CW diesel has just rolled over 201,000km. Only mechanical fault has been a LH front wheel bearing at 180K. Replacement coming up - will probably go with an Active diesel manual - although a manual SR isn't a lot more. If we can get more than about $3,500 for the old girl we'll be lucky.....
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200000K for the diesel is peanuts. I'd want at least 5 grand and it's only 6 year old. $3500, it should walk out the door at that price unlesss the market is so depressed in WA.
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200000K for the diesel is peanuts. I'd want at least 5 grand and it's only 6 year old. $3500, it should walk out the door at that price unlesss the market is so depressed in WA.
The i30 is often the best selling car in WA because of the way the AHG has pushed them. So they are popular over there and there are plenty about. Surprisingly there was only one 2011/12 Manual Diesel CW came up (with 144K on the clock) the dealer wants $7,990. For some reason second hand and new cars tend to be a bit cheaper in WA but at that rate Gerard is probably right at 5K Minimum.
http://www.carsales.com.au/cars/results?sortby=~Price&offset=0&setype=sort&q=%28And.%28C.Make.Hyundai._.%28C.Model.i30._.%28And.Badge.SX._.Series.FD.%29%29%29_.State.Western%20Australia._.GenericGearType.Manual._.FuelType.Diesel._.BodyStyle.Wagon._.Service.Carsales._.Year.range%282011..2012%29.%29&area=Stock&vertical=car&WT.z_srchsrcx=makemodel (http://www.carsales.com.au/cars/results?sortby=~Price&offset=0&setype=sort&q=%28And.%28C.Make.Hyundai._.%28C.Model.i30._.%28And.Badge.SX._.Series.FD.%29%29%29_.State.Western%20Australia._.GenericGearType.Manual._.FuelType.Diesel._.BodyStyle.Wagon._.Service.Carsales._.Year.range%282011..2012%29.%29&area=Stock&vertical=car&WT.z_srchsrcx=makemodel)
Manual limits the market a bit but the fact it is a wagon may help. Good luck. If you can afford the extra an Elite Diesel Manual would be nice.
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I guess the lady has made up her mind by now :whistler: but we lads can still jabber on about prices and KMs. :twisted:
Now is the time to buy a car...bargain hard and buy cheap.
Irrespective of the self congratulatory budget drivel we are about to hear from Scott Morrison, there isn't a lot of cash out there.
Mr Average has over spent and he currently has deep pockets. From personal experience, I can assure you that rents and car prices are at an all time low . Mr Average is not on the move and is not buying cars. This sort of downturn flows on. I went into a shopping centre in West End a few weeks ago ( in this suburb people spend cash big-time) 9 shops were vacant, that's about 30% of the tenants. :disapp:
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@nzenigma
Some places in Tassie seem to be ending up with too many empty shops. I think that internet sales have a fair bit to do with it. In a lot of cases bricks and motar shops can't compete unless they have an effective website and can supplement their turnover that way. I now buy 90% of my stuff online due to pricing and availability. :cool:
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@nzenigma
Some places in Tassie seem to be ending up with too many empty shops. I think that internet sales have a fair bit to do with it. In a lot of cases bricks and motar shops can't compete unless they have an effective website and can supplement their turnover that way. I now buy 90% of my stuff online due to pricing and availability. :cool:
Dazz, I understand digital disruption, but.... homes offered for rent online are not being let, same with cars at a realistic price, the shopping centre I mentioned caters for backpackers and new Australians. This is an early lucrative stamping ground for me when I was in business in the area... solid Greek and then Vietnamese people. Still many friends there. :goodjob2: And remains , for me, an economic benchmark.
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@nzenigma
Some places in Tassie seem to be ending up with too many empty shops. I think that internet sales have a fair bit to do with it. In a lot of cases bricks and motar shops can't compete unless they have an effective website and can supplement their turnover that way. I now buy 90% of my stuff online due to pricing and availability. :cool:
Dazz, I understand digital disruption, but.... homes offered for rent online are not being let, same with cars at a realistic price, the shopping centre I mentioned caters for backpackers and new Australians. This is an early lucrative stamping ground for me when I was in business in the area... solid Greek and then Vietnamese people. Still many friends there. :goodjob2: And remains , for me, an economic benchmark.
Talk about digital disruption :faint: Do you want a 4th response Gary? Must be water in the lines
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I hope you're wrong Gary, but you make some compelling points. Tassie is actually travelling reasonably well overall. Maybe Queensland's bubble has started to burst? :cool:
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I hope you're wrong Gary, but you make some compelling points. Tassie is actually travelling reasonably well overall. Maybe Queensland's bubble has started to burst? :cool:
Have been thinking about that Dazz. I am observing Queensland conditions. It may be different in other states. :victory:
Last week I was talking to a friend/car dealer who has moved from the Sunny Coast down to Tazzie. He was saying he was doing ok except you cant sell a bad car down there because the whole island will know about it by end of the week. :blubber:
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I hope you're wrong Gary, but you make some compelling points. Tassie is actually travelling reasonably well overall. Maybe Queensland's bubble has started to burst? :cool:
Have been thinking about that Dazz. I am observing Queensland conditions. It may be different in other states. :victory:
Last week I was talking to a friend/car dealer who has moved from the Sunny Coast down to Tazzie. He was saying he was doing ok except you cant sell a bad car down there because the whole island will know about it by end of the week. :blubber:
Yes, true. Word of mouth is good and bad in Tassie.
When I was managing Radio Rentals down here. My store (Devonport) ended up being the biggest and the best in the whole of Australia - out of 70 stores! The CEO asked me how we were doing it. Much better market penetration versus population than anywhere else. I said it was mainly due to positive word of mouth. When someone needed a new fridge or washer their friends said nice things about our staff and service and it kind of snowballed. I got lots of rewards at that time. :victory:
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Similar in NZ too. :goodjob:
Corporate PR language also tends to lack jargon and is more down to earth.
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only things that went wrong are 3 window switches
This happened to my i30 as well. I think grime builds up inside the switch contacts causing them to fail. I cleaned mine out (all four doors) at the 170'000km mark and again recently at 245'000km as the passenger front window would roll down with the driver side switch, but not raise again. I cleaned the switches on the PCB with some isopropyl alcohol and it has been flawless since!
Also, uber jealous of your Cagiva! I love the look of those bikes with the dual headlights ala the Africa Twin. I have always liked the 'odd' bikes like the Elefant, the Navigator and the Aprilia Caponord :)
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I guess the lady has made up her mind by now :whistler: but we lads can still jabber on about prices and KMs. :twisted:
Now is the time to buy a car...bargain hard and buy cheap.
Irrespective of the self congratulatory budget drivel we are about to hear from Scott Morrison, there isn't a lot of cash out there.
Mr Average has over spent and he currently has deep pockets. From personal experience, I can assure you that rents and car prices are at an all time low . Mr Average is not on the move and is not buying cars. This sort of downturn flows on. I went into a shopping centre in West End a few weeks ago ( in this suburb people spend cash big-time) 9 shops were vacant, that's about 30% of the tenants. :disapp:
With respect new car sales are up slightly on last years record high, so they are still being purchased.
Shops are empty everywhere, I believe that this is down to more retail being done online, and also every new development seems to want to put shops/cafes/resturants on their ground floor level makes for a nice image on the presale artwork. In reality they will never be filled because there are far too many empty shops around already.
Personally think they would be better designing cheaper units on the ground floor for the elderly
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I guess the lady has made up her mind by now :whistler: but we lads can still jabber on about prices and KMs. :twisted:
Now is the time to buy a car...bargain hard and buy cheap.
Irrespective of the self congratulatory budget drivel we are about to hear from Scott Morrison, there isn't a lot of cash out there.
Mr Average has over spent and he currently has deep pockets. From personal experience, I can assure you that rents and car prices are at an all time low . Mr Average is not on the move and is not buying cars. This sort of downturn flows on. I went into a shopping centre in West End a few weeks ago ( in this suburb people spend cash big-time) 9 shops were vacant, that's about 30% of the tenants. :disapp:
With respect new car sales are up slightly on last years record high, so they are still being purchased.
Shops are empty everywhere, I believe that this is down to more retail being done online, and also every new development seems to want to put shops/cafes/resturants on their ground floor level makes for a nice image on the presale artwork. In reality they will never be filled because there are far too many empty shops around already.
Personally think they would be better designing cheaper units on the ground floor for the elderly
That's a really good point about the new shops being built when there are so many empty one already. Seen that happening a lot. Sometimes they pinch businesses from older shopping centres too. Either way the result is more empty shops. :head_butt:
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Sorry I have to disagree with Beerman. The actions of the working class has been my business barometer since the 1980s. Lesson 1:My first business was based in the already mentioned west end.. I succeeded because they are working class spenders. In another up market suburb I would have probably gone under.
Sure we all purchase online , but is the money being spent and circulated back into our community? Evidence would say not.
This also applies to very much to 2nd hand v. new car sales.
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Work is the slowest it's been since 1992, according to the boss. We've shed half our staff, and the rest of us are..not busy. West Perth shopping area is half empty, even banks and cafes have closed up shop! The CPI has been dropping for 3 years over here. Our current vehicle is on novated lease...residual value of $2000 in Oct., so I'll pay it off and may well just keep it!
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Work is the slowest it's been since 1992, according to the boss. We've shed half our staff, and the rest of us are..not busy. West Perth shopping area is half empty, even banks and cafes have closed up shop! The CPI has been dropping for 3 years over here. Our current vehicle is on novated lease...residual value of $2000 in Oct., so I'll pay it off and may well just keep it!
Wow, that doesn't sound good. I didn't pick up things were that bad in Perth when i was last there in January. I knew it was off the boil a bit. Things have always been relatively dear over there as in Takeaway food and stuff, but I notice it is closer to Tassie prices than it used to be. I expect to be back over there in July. We might be able to catch up for a cuppa. :victory: