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Title: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Crustycottage on March 01, 2019, 12:49:38
Parked at Palmyra Woolworths for 7 minutes, and I return to a deep key scratch along the rear panel to the bumper. I fortunately have Blackvue DR 750 dashcam with front and rear cameras fitted. I now have footage of this lowlife swapping his keys in his hands prior to walking past the car, the scraping is recorded on audio as he walks past the car, and rear camera captures him putting the keys back in his pocket, and walking to his fancy Range Rover. I have his rego number, and picture what should I do. Off to the police
(https://i.ibb.co/t4MWKjd/IMG-5092.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2y7fhVb)
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Mikkantoo on March 01, 2019, 13:36:24
I just saw your post on FB, and boy I'd be pissed as all hell about it, too.

All the best in hunting that mutt down for recompense.
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: CraigB on March 01, 2019, 15:04:55
What an arsehole to have done that :disapp: great you got it all on cam Scott, let that prick get his just deserves  :spitty:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Dazzler on March 01, 2019, 19:47:49
Jeepers Scott! That's awful. Don't understand why someone would even want to do that.

I just saw your post on FB, and boy I'd be pissed as all hell about it, too.

All the best in hunting that mutt down for recompense.

Are you and Scott friends on FB? I couldn't see it on our FB page?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Mikkantoo on March 01, 2019, 21:50:37
Jeepers Scott! That's awful. Don't understand why someone would even want to do that.

I just saw your post on FB, and boy I'd be pissed as all hell about it, too.

All the best in hunting that mutt down for recompense.

Are you and Scott friends on FB? I couldn't see it on our FB page?  :undecided:
Uh nope, wouldn't know Scott even if I tripped over him on the street.

I just checked and his post is still there :goodjob:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: tw2005 on March 01, 2019, 22:35:33
Parked at Palmyra Woolworths for 7 minutes, and I return to a deep key scratch along the rear panel to the bumper. I fortunately have Blackvue DR 750 dashcam with front and rear cameras fitted. I now have footage of this lowlife swapping his keys in his hands prior to walking past the car, the scraping is recorded on audio as he walks past the car, and rear camera captures him putting the keys back in his pocket, and walking to his fancy Range Rover. I have his rego number, and picture what should I do. Off to the police
(https://i.ibb.co/t4MWKjd/IMG-5092.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2y7fhVb)
Oh, I can't wait to hear your report back if you have the whole deal on footage. What's the chances he just happened to be parked in view of your film crew. I hope you nail him and the scumbag  ends up with what he deserves :spitty:
Bring back the firing squads

 :link: Italian FiringSquad.wmv - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cyr4Lvh-lQ)

Or a good stoning

 :link: Monty Python's Life of Brian (stoning) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNeq2Utm0nU)
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Dazzler on March 01, 2019, 22:47:57
Jeepers Scott! That's awful. Don't understand why someone would even want to do that.

I just saw your post on FB, and boy I'd be pissed as all hell about it, too.

All the best in hunting that mutt down for recompense.

Are you and Scott friends on FB? I couldn't see it on our FB page?  :undecided:
Uh nope, wouldn't know Scott even if I tripped over him on the street.

I just checked and his post is still there :goodjob:

O.I.C. It's on the "other" i30 Owner's Club FB not ours...  :evil:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1714306355302222/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1714306355302222/)

Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Hati on March 01, 2019, 22:58:05
Good luck getting the plod to do something about this. I would find some 1 percenters, pay them whatever and give them the rego number of the Rotten Rover and the photo of the scum driving it to be "apprehended". You have better chances...
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Mikkantoo on March 01, 2019, 23:27:12
@Dazzler

Oh I see now, my aplolgies, I got the i30 pages mixed up :head_butt:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Dazzler on March 02, 2019, 00:02:56
@Dazzler

Oh I see now, my aplolgies, I got the i30 pages mixed up :head_butt:

No Problems mate. I forgot the whole world doesn't revolve around us (me)  :snigger: :crazy1:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: mickd on March 02, 2019, 01:12:22
Insurance should be happy to repair with the proof   :victory:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Crustycottage on March 02, 2019, 02:36:18
I will take footage on USB stick to our trusty Police force, although not expecting them to do much.  :whistler:

It is willful damage to my property, and Youi insurance company may want to hunt him down with base ball bats.  :head_knock:

There were a few good ideas from the other side, Darryl's favorite FB i30 owners page, about uploading the footage onto Dashcam Australia website to shame him too.  :evil:

Just really pissed off, missus reckons i should get rid of the car  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Dazzler on March 02, 2019, 05:31:16
Don't get rid of it!  :Pout:

That "other" Aussie club FB site seems pretty active. I haven't got a problem with that.  I'm more focused on this forum anyway than our FB page.  :goodjob:

I do feel really bad for you Scott. I'd be a lot more upset about that than my two no fault prangs which obviously weren't intentional. I'm not nasty or vindictive usually but I'd get a lot of satisfaction out of slashing the bastards tyres!  :evil:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: beerman on March 02, 2019, 07:15:52
Shouldn't be a problem

Footage/audio of the offence, rego of car.

Might need a search warrant to get the clothing he wore on the day (saying someone is the person on footage is 'opinion' evidence) but shouldn't have too much issue.

If it is a rich dude, he will probably want to pay his way out.

Only problem arises is if old mate borrowed the car, and his mate won't dog him in.
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Crustycottage on March 02, 2019, 07:54:32
 I have reported it to Police, but not allowed to say any more in case it jeopardizes their investigation.  :whistler:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Dazzler on March 02, 2019, 10:39:35
How about showing us the video then.. that's not saying anything!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Crustycottage on March 02, 2019, 12:37:40
How about showing us the video then.. that's not saying anything!       

Police were quite insistent about not uploading any footage to public forums especially be aware of that Dazzler dude he's trouble   :rofl:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Dazzler on March 02, 2019, 20:35:57
How about showing us the video then.. that's not saying anything!       

Police were quite insistent about not uploading any footage to public forums especially be aware of that Dazzler dude he's trouble   :rofl:

I'll have you know I'm a legend in my own lunchtime. I like being infamous...  :happydance: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Crustycottage on March 29, 2019, 14:04:30
Car back from Panel repairers today, not a bad job at all but an expensive scratch at over $2K as the bumper had to be resprayed as well.  :Shocked:
Police are still investigating (whatever that means) and my insurance company have all but given up as in the too hard basket with WA police generally not very forthcoming with personal info due to privacy laws.

So I have paid my excess yet again for no fault incident  :crazy1: and my insurance goes up
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Dazzler on March 29, 2019, 19:05:56
Sorry to hear that Scott. Not the result any of us hoped for!  :disapp:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Mikkantoo on March 30, 2019, 10:06:30
Sorry to hear that Scott. Not the result any of us hoped for!  :disapp:
Seconded. Bullshit result, and the perp gets away with it and will likely keep doing it to other people's property. :fum:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: mickd on March 30, 2019, 23:54:42
💩, keep harassing Police and your case manager at insurance co., especially your manager.
If they have the proof and details of the FWit and THEY can't proceed,  why should you be penalised. 90 phone calls at 1 minute each could pay dividends. 
Don't take no for an answer,  fight for your rights.
 Sik'em Rex  !!!
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: The Gonz on March 31, 2019, 04:06:31
Sik'em Rex  !!!
Now THAT would be the Antz Pantz :D
 :link: Antz Pantz - Backpacker (sic 'em, Rex!) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ac9XE2Koxg)
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: mickd on March 31, 2019, 04:21:22
Sik'em Rex  !!!
Now THAT would be the Antz Pantz :D
 :link: Antz Pantz - Backpacker (sic 'em, Rex!) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ac9XE2Koxg)
Sure is ! , great ad !
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Crustycottage on March 31, 2019, 06:38:39
💩, keep harassing Police and your case manager at insurance co., especially your manager.
If they have the proof and details of the FWit and THEY can't proceed,  why should you be penalised. 90 phone calls at 1 minute each could pay dividends. 
Don't take no for an answer,  fight for your rights.
 Sik'em Rex  !!!
Good advert. I have been passed around 3 claims assessors so far, and the first was let's hunt this bugger down, second was should be able to get my excess back to last one " unlikely to get any info out of WA police as they redact personal info and. Can take months or years" so basically not worth our while pursuing this.
I have been hassling the police every few days and they are apparently seeking additional footage from carpark cameras, but they are too busy and short staffed. Without additional footage, the evidence is circumstantial just audio of him keying car. He can always deny it, but it depended on how the cops approach him. I want him named and shamed if they do nothing. 
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: mickd on March 31, 2019, 08:11:10
💩, keep harassing Police and your case manager at insurance co., especially your manager.
If they have the proof and details of the FWit and THEY can't proceed,  why should you be penalised. 90 phone calls at 1 minute each could pay dividends. 
Don't take no for an answer,  fight for your rights.
 Sik'em Rex  !!!
Good advert. I have been passed around 3 claims assessors so far, and the first was let's hunt this bugger down, second was should be able to get my excess back to last one " unlikely to get any info out of WA police as they redact personal info and. Can take months or years" so basically not worth our while pursuing this.
I have been hassling the police every few days and they are apparently seeking additional footage from carpark cameras, but they are too busy and short staffed. Without additional footage, the evidence is circumstantial just audio of him keying car. He can always deny it, but it depended on how the cops approach him. I want him named and shamed if they do nothing.
OMBUDSMAN  !
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Crustycottage on June 01, 2019, 03:57:36
Update from Police after incident 3 months ago

Good evening Crusty

I email you to advise that I have just interviewed the suspect regarding the scratch to your vehicle.

The gentleman could not recall the incident and denied any knowledge of scratching yours or any other persons vehicle.

He was rather taken aback at the suggestion that he could commit such an act but could not rule out that he may accidentally done it without knowing.

Without an admission and clear footage proving intent, unfortunately we are unable to proceed with prosecution.

Any questions, don’t hesitate to contact myself.

Best Regards,

The b*stard gets away with causing malicious damage. The dashcam catches him swapping keys in his hand just before walking past the side of the car, audio of the scratch is circumstantial evidence, and then putting keys in his pocket on rear dash cam. The TAB car park camera was wrong side of my car, repairs over $2K, and me to pay excess, so yes Im pissed off :evil:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Dazzler on June 01, 2019, 04:23:49
You have every right to be pi$$ed off. I would still have steam coming out of my ears if that same scenario happened to me.

I had a much lesser version of the same thing happen to me recently. Won't go into the long story but think mine was just done with a finger nail and 90 % of it polished out.  :sweating:

I now park away from where the incident happened.  :cool:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: CraigB on June 01, 2019, 06:11:36
Very disappointing outcome Scott :disapp: with any luck the insurance company may still perform their own investigation yet as Allianz did for me when the cops didn’t want to know about my accident.
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Crustycottage on June 01, 2019, 06:42:48
Very disappointing outcome Scott  with any luck the insurance company may still perform there own investigation yet as Allianz did for me when the cops didn’t want to know about my accident.

Unfortunately my Youi claims assessor doesn't think it is worth the hassle as WA police are the least cooperative for providing information due to privacy laws.
I will ask the police to provide suspect details to Youi, and also what implications for me posting videos on FB and dashcam sites. eg Can I be sued for deformation etc? I cant believe that he can get away with it, and want to shame him.

To be honest, if the police knocked on my door asking about an incident and where I was 3 months ago, I would not remember
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: beerman on June 01, 2019, 07:01:51
Intent is a state of mind and can only be proven by the facts.

To get a successful prosecution, you need to go beyond reasonable doubt. I don't believe that an 'accident' could not be excluded as such a prosecution would more than likley fail, had a camera caught his actions whilst doing the act, this might have provided a different outcome.

Insurance should be able to get the vehicles owner via a FOI on transport.  https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/aboutus/freedom-of-information.asp (https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/aboutus/freedom-of-information.asp) they can then send him a letter of demand, given the time frame, and I assume the camera footage it could be concluded that no other person approached the vehicle. Though there may be an argument about the damage, when/how it occurred.

As an aside it may be worth looking at your states traffic act for the definition of an accident. It might be that if it was an 'accident' that he was obligated to provide details which he has failed to do.
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Crustycottage on June 01, 2019, 09:45:14
Intent is a state of mind and can only be proven by the facts.

To get a successful prosecution, you need to go beyond reasonable doubt. I don't believe that an 'accident' could not be excluded as such a prosecution would more than likley fail, had a camera caught his actions whilst doing the act, this might have provided a different outcome.

Insurance should be able to get the vehicles owner via a FOI on transport.  https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/aboutus/freedom-of-information.asp (https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/aboutus/freedom-of-information.asp) they can then send him a letter of demand, given the time frame, and I assume the camera footage it could be concluded that no other person approached the vehicle. Though there may be an argument about the damage, when/how it occurred.

As an aside it may be worth looking at your states traffic act for the definition of an accident. It might be that if it was an 'accident' that he was obligated to provide details which he has failed to do.

I will look into it further Beerman. Thanks. may upload dashcam footage too.
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: mickd on June 01, 2019, 10:50:38
Very disappointing for you re Police timeframe and the utter pi$$weak Youi  insurance comment. I realise that a few grand is SFA to all of them and there is no economic benefit in chasing that amount given legal costs.
Loyalty only goes so far,  I'd be changing companies just as a matter of principle.
 :fuckyou: to Youi    :D
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Crustycottage on June 04, 2019, 05:24:25
Well guys and girls this is the dash cam footage I am allowed to show of the suspect. You need to turn up sound to hear the accidental scratching  :whistler:

Front dash camera  :link: 20190301 163640 PF - Sendvid (http://sendvid.com/141463ks)
rear dash camera  :link: 20190301 163640 PR - Sendvid (http://sendvid.com/xh4urryr)
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Dazzler on June 04, 2019, 05:37:52
Well guys and girls this is the dash cam footage I am allowed to show of the suspect. You need to turn up sound to hear the accidental scratching  :whistler:

Front dash camera  :link: 20190301 163640 PF - Sendvid (http://sendvid.com/141463ks)
rear dash camera  :link: 20190301 163640 PR - Sendvid (http://sendvid.com/xh4urryr)

 :crazy1: Why did they target your car? There sure are some horrible people out there!

All the stress and inconvenience he's caused you!  :fum: :fum: :fum: :evil:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Crustycottage on June 04, 2019, 05:57:49
Why did they target your car? There sure are some horrible people out there!

Not sure Dazz, Suspect came up behind me in central lane as I waited for a lady to pull out of a T junction, so waited as I wasn't sure if she was turning left or right. Suspect followed me then for about 1km down the road drove at 51kmh before turning into Coles car park. What may have pissed him off is me entering the car park through exit which was faded and conspicuous on the ground, and I have never been there before.
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Dazzler on June 04, 2019, 07:08:38
Why did they target your car? There sure are some horrible people out there!

Not sure Dazz, Suspect came up behind me in central lane as I waited for a lady to pull out of a T junction, so waited as I wasn't sure if she was turning left or right. Suspect followed me then for about 1km down the road drove at 51kmh before turning into Coles car park. What may have pissed him off is me entering the car park through exit which was faded and conspicuous on the ground, and I have never been there before.

Yes, I thought it might have been a targeted attack. Doesn't take much from some people.  :disapp: :blubber:
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Blazorax on June 04, 2019, 07:25:19
Ouch, I feel for you mate.  I dont understand why people do such a thing. 
Title: Re: Blue is not a lucky colour for me
Post by: Dazzler on June 04, 2019, 09:42:40
Ouch, I feel for you mate.  I dont understand why people do such a thing.

You've been quiet Thanh - Nice to see you on!  :goodjob:
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