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GENERAL STUFF => GENERAL DISCUSSIONS => Random Chit Chat => Topic started by: Dazzler on April 06, 2010, 11:07:45
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Was in the local Hyundai/Nissan dealer's parts department today getting service parts for the wife's Tiida.. and decided to check the current price (and stock levels) of the CRDi fuel filter which I will have to replace in 1000kms (at 60,000) They wanted $142.. said they only had one :rolleyes: (and had only ever sold 2 others...no wonder at that price!) The part number is 319224H001..
Can anyone in Australia who has had one replaced in the last 6 months check their invoice and let me know what they got charged including GST thanks..
Out of interest I'm going to see what I can get a fuel filter and an Oil filter from the big Melbourne dealer for (including freight)
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That seems excessive.
Over the stream from here they are priced at €36.28 (Limerick, Ireland)
http://www.d2dgateway.com/searchresults.php?searchtext=319224H001
Be interesting to see what other prices show up near Dazzland
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Thanks Steve it will be interesting to see what the Melbourne dealer wants to charge (I've asked for a total price for a Fuel Filter, Oil Filter and Freight)
Interestingly lots of results for that part number on worldwide google search but none for just Australia...
Edit : that converts to a bit over A$50 :eek: :evil:
and this (Polish Price)
http://kia.auto.pl/filtr-paliwa-kia-soul-ceed-diesel-hyundai-i30-diesel-p-827.html?osCsid=cf3bc5861f625798a8aa38bba07c9cea
is only about A$37 :eek: :evil:
P.S. I was going to grab an Oil Filter for my CRDi as they are only about A$21 and they only had two in stock (one was used - full of oil!!!! which they couldn't explain) and the other had been handled with oily fingers???? So I said I would leave it for now... :D
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http://kia.auto.pl/filtr-paliwa-kia-soul-ceed-diesel-hyundai-i30-diesel-p-827.html?osCsid=cf3bc5861f625798a8aa38bba07c9cea
is only about A$37 :eek: :evil:
Hello!!! Yes, most parts for I30, on http://kia.auto.pl, are cheaper than in Hyundai service.
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I got a reply from Dandenong Hyundai (The only one of three dealers to reply so far)
Their fuel filter has a cost of $136.60 (about $6 cheaper than tassie)
Their oil filter has a cost of $25.05 (A bit dearer than last time I got one here?)
Freight to get to Devonport would be $10
(So no point getting them over from there) Next stop the Kia Dealer...
THEY TOLD ME THERE WAS A HYUNDAI DEALER IN DEVONPORT WHICH MIGHT BE MORE CONVENIENT.. :rolleyes:
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Hi Dazz, do research, as some dealers here love the money more than the sale. you get poeople like this in all walks of life, seems to be part of the new system. but can get for $90 and as have said easy to replace. i can't understand the service quote. people tell us. i can't were i got in print as.... the wolf's would be onto it.
cheers
fear is what dealers thrive on my online m8.
but being a 50 year old , Dazz my boy, your a survivour mate, you road in car's without seat belts or airbag's, you done or must have done all we have been lead to beleave would kill us. and your still alive. your cars still alive, don't let a newage salesman scare you m8. they are all experts till you put it to them to demonstraght. then google is no longer there best m8 :lol:
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Hi John.. I love your way with words... :lol:
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Dazz, I had my fuel filter replaced at the 30,000 km service on 5/1/10 and it cost $109.45 including GST. The part number is the same as the one you have given.
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Dazz, it's even worse for young people that buy a new Harley. i meet kids like that at the track. dealers tell them very colourfull story's that come over from the USA or what ever. they hit them with $150 per hour labour charge that some kid that gets $30 per hour carried out.
then they meet me who don't know anything, but who has wild imagination and lived b4 HD road side service, meet 70 year old ex flat track racers back in the 60's that showed up with old 1965 panheads then road across australia to perth on those dirt roads of the day. but today they tell them thats impossible. then we had two 18year old kids back in 1927 with a prehistoric Harley outfit and they set a new around australia record, Wild natives in NT no roads to talk of 50mile out of sydney. not a service station you went to private farms to get fuel you rebuilt motors and bikes on the side of dirt track's crossed sandy rivers followed teligraph lines eat what you could get, lived off the land. it was cheap. and they made it. now it's hard to beleive that.
how did we do that?
True story.
but i'm telling you mate the dealers hate the truth!
cheers
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Thanks Dave If I cant get it for less than that from Kia I might get the name of the dealership and buy all my filters from them (inclufding freight it would still be cheaper!)
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Or buy them when you come over here. If you want me to check anything out with John Hughes let me know.
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Thanks Dave...Trouble is I need the Fuel Filter in the next few weeks... Apparently the Kia Soul uses the same engine and consumables and they may be cheaper via the Kia Dealer (where I have a contact :D) so might be on a winner - will keep you posted.
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Dazz I just put "fuel filter Hyundai" into the search area on Ebay and three matches came up for a Sonata but not i30.
But the seller said if your one was not listed contact them for a price. Might be worth a try?
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Thanks Dave.. I'll give that a try..(I've just about to PM you about something else as well)
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UPDATE: The ebay option was no go (he only handles clearance items)
On the positive side Kia use exactly the same part number for the Kia Soul CRDI Fuel Filter.. and I can get it locally for $114 (a $29 saving :D) They are doing the Oil Filter for $21 so I said to get one of them too and I think I need an Air Filter at the 60,000 too so if that is cheaper they will get a hat-trick (I can cope with them coming in a red box instead of a blue one... :lol:
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UPDATE: The ebay option was no go (he only handles clearance items)
On the positive side Kia use exactly the same part number for the Kia Soul CRDI Fuel Filter.. and I can get it locally for $114 (a $29 saving :D) They are doing the Oil Filter for $21 so I said to get one of them too and I think I need an Air Filter at the 60,000 too so if that is cheaper they will get a hat-trick (I can cope with them coming in a red box instead of a blue one... :lol:
Excellent result. It's crazy, isn't it....
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Air Filter same story (same part number for Kia and Hyundai) only $26 versus $36...so total saving over A$40 dealerships less than half a kilometre away from each other and both on my way to work...
I will post the Kia part numbers for all three off the boxes when I get them...
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hi shambles,
I own d2dgateway.com, would you mind letting me know how you found out about our website? also can I be of any assistance in helping the members here find parts?
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I own d2dgateway.com, would you mind letting me know how you found out about our website?
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GIFS/google.gif) was my friend :)
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Can't remember how much I paid for my fuel filter, as I bought when I picked up the car 18 months ago, but the oil filter was $39 dollars in Canberra from where I bought the car.
As soon as Mahle make them available for general distribution I will buy ten, plus a oil filter cover.
Mahle part number 26330-2C300 OX351
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... also can I be of any assistance in helping the members here find parts?
Of course you can. All offers of i30ownersclub member discounts gratefully received :D
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and after 9 minites as a memer on the site and one post he was gone. :eek:
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Bit of an Update .. Got the Kia Fuel Filter for $114.80 (it had exactly the same part number on the box as quoted by the Hyundai Service Centre) The Kia Oil filter they tried to give me was a cartridge type but a fair bit fatter than the Hyundai one so I declined that - will get the Hyundai one which is a similar price) expecting to collect the Kia air filter early next week then will book my service...(will have a look at the genuine one in my car before I collect it to make sure it is right!)
Cheers
Dazz
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could you keep the originals as a sample for next time. ?
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could you keep the originals as a sample for next time. ?
I will probably just post photos and part numbers on here (if i remember) The Oil Filters vary on the Build date of the Diesel but the other two should be the same for all CRDis I think..
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Is it just me or does $115 still sound a lot for what must be made for a fraction of that?
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Yes it does especially if we are supposed to get it replaced every 30,000km (better than the $143 quoted by my Hyundai dealer though) I think the local dealers are greedy they have a reputation for being dear and their trade in offers are usually a joke!
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I'm also surprised that the filter is a proprietry item without a generic replacement. If I can put it off until 60k then I've a few years before I need worry anyway. :wink: I'm doing a fairly constant 15k/yr and have 22,500km in the first 18 months... so on average so far.
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If you have seen my latest news on the i45 not coming out as a Diesel (at least in the short term..) you will understand if I say I might now have to plan on another fuel filter at the 120K mark... :'(
I am guessing from what a few say that the Fuel Filter is possibly a Bosch item and might be interchangable between brands (I will try and remember to post a photo before it is changed) and might even post the dimensions on the site
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I'm in for my 15.000km service next Saturday for $220 flat.oil,filter,fuel injector flush,ecu reset to new settings,spanner check and full check over car to make sure its all still a1.an hours work im told :mrgreen:
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That seems fair...
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I'm in for my 15.000km service next Saturday for $220 flat.oil,filter,fuel injector flush,ecu reset to new settings,spanner check and full check over car to make sure its all still a1.an hours work im told :mrgreen:
what new settings?
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I'm in for my 15.000km service next Saturday for $220 flat.oil,filter,fuel injector flush,ecu reset to new settings,spanner check and full check over car to make sure its all still a1.an hours work im told :mrgreen:
what new settings?
Steve has a petrol model... probably had some tweaks to ecu to try and catch up to the diesel :wink:
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the ecu is upgraded and thats all i was told. :rolleyes:
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I'm in for my 15.000km service next Saturday for $220 flat.oil,filter,fuel injector flush,ecu reset to new settings,spanner check and full check over car to make sure its all still a1.an hours work im told :mrgreen:
what new settings?
Steve has a petrol model... probably had some tweaks to ecu to try and catch up to the diesel :wink:
:lol: :P
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Oh, so why would they need to upgrade the ecu? That doesn't sound standard to me...unlesss you mean you upgraded it and therefore had the tune redone.
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Hi Mutley... It is a bit like a firmware upgrade on a PVR or a bios upgrade on a PC motherboard...(or even a soft ware upgrade on the i30 Audio System)
From time to time due to a process of "continual improvement" Hyundai and other Auto manufacturers would tweak their ECU programming to possibly further improve fuel economy, cold weather starting or any number of other "issues" :cool:
Sorry for the off topic (even if it is my topic :rolleyes:)
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Hi Mutley... It is a bit like a firmware upgrade on a PVR or a bios upgrade on a PC motherboard...(or even a soft ware upgrade on the i30 Audio System)
From time to time due to a process of "continual improvement" Hyundai and other Auto manufacturers would tweak their ECU programming to possibly further improve fuel economy, cold weather starting or any number of other "issues" :cool:
Sorry for the off topic (even if it is my topic :rolleyes:)
thanx for the explanation dazz. :razz:
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Hi Mutley... It is a bit like a firmware upgrade on a PVR or a bios upgrade on a PC motherboard...(or even a soft ware upgrade on the i30 Audio System)
From time to time due to a process of "continual improvement" Hyundai and other Auto manufacturers would tweak their ECU programming to possibly further improve fuel economy, cold weather starting or any number of other "issues" :cool:
Sorry for the off topic (even if it is my topic :rolleyes:)
That is very interesting and news to me. I am not unfamiliar with modding and tweaking but have never heard of manufacturer's doing it.
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Hi Mutley... It is a bit like a firmware upgrade on a PVR or a bios upgrade on a PC motherboard...(or even a soft ware upgrade on the i30 Audio System)
From time to time due to a process of "continual improvement" Hyundai and other Auto manufacturers would tweak their ECU programming to possibly further improve fuel economy, cold weather starting or any number of other "issues" :cool:
Sorry for the off topic (even if it is my topic :rolleyes:)
What your saying is true Dazz, but doubt they spend that much time on the i30 upgades as its just a budget car, to reprogram takes a lot of time, time costs money. if there was a big problem, maybe they would, but doubt it m8 they are pretty good as they are now. only program work i could see them doing is to meet future imission laws but that is a step back in performance in most cases. i have watched a guy program an ecu with fly by wire throtle and its a very slow time consuming prosess mate its not plug & play. takes time and no garantee you will improve things.
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Hi John.. That is the only explanation I could come up with for Steve being told his ecu was being reset to new setting at his next service (can you think of another reason? - his is a petrol model)
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Hi John.. That is the only explanation I could come up with for Steve being told his ecu was being reset to new setting at his next service (can you think of another reason? - his is a petrol model)
Dazz some Dealer service teams know when there is a new update and they would have an idea if your car has the latest or not. but can be very complicated learning exactly what the update actually does.
i had and still have my 2004 BA V8 ute it has fly by wire throtle like the i30 have & it can have updates installed if i choose. i once had an update that i think had updated throtle control software it made the ute feel faster as its not your foot that controls the throtle its the ECU. so if they say they have an update, they have probably tried it on other cars the same and noticed the difference. who knows.
just a side note, my ute has not had any software updates in about three years has 220,000k and runs nice. i change oil at 5,000k change filter too have used unfashionable turbo diesel mineral base oil 15W 40W from new not one problem no oil leaks no smoke no oil useage. auto trans is only problem i have had but i also only use BP or Caltex 98 fuel burns very clean.
cheers
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About greedy dealers, the GMH dealers want $50 for a headlight globe, H7, and I can get one through REPCO for $17 retail and $11 trade price and they wonder why you wont go there
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About greedy dealers, the GMH dealers want $50 for a headlight globe, H7, and I can get one through REPCO for $17 retail and $11 trade price and they wonder why you wont go there
Yeah, I think they are mostly all the same..My Daughter and her fiance had a water pump s**t itself near a GMH dealer (fortunately) when they were driving a Commodore wagon accross the Nullabor and they got slugged close to A$600 including labour to replace it (at the same time there were water pumps - supply only) in an Autobarn or Supercheap catalogue to suit their car for about A$125 I think from memory.. the dealers had them over a barrell :rolleyes:
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just got a price on a fuel filter today from hyundai $153 from autobarn $25 what the hell my i30 has been cutting out all good now but hyundai said that i have to use there filter or lose my warrtly? i brought the cheap one
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Linlake have seen genuine Hyundai fuel filters from $85 to $120 depending on were you go $150 seems excessive, maybe it's a large spare parts warehouse they keep them in an the parts guy spends half hour to find one so they add labour cost?
how many k's has your motor done? & how many k's since fuel filter was replaced? i have always had Betseys fuel filter changed at 30,000 as my tech said if injectors get warn or damaged they cost a lot more. have you got excessive water build up?
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just got a price on a fuel filter today from hyundai $153 from autobarn $25 what the hell my i30 has been cutting out all good now but hyundai said that i have to use there filter or lose my warrtly? i brought the cheap one
They can't say that. It is a restraint of trade.
All they can say is that if the filter you bought is not up to standard and causes damage then it is not covered. Where as if the Hyundai one does damage it is.
Though if the cheap one causes damage, you have other avenues of remedy.
This is one of the reasons I don't use dealers for service. That and my 30k service was quoted by Hyundai as $600 and I did it (using better mobil 1 0w40 oil) for under $250......
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I was told an interesting story from the windscreen replacement guy who replaced the windscreen on my Forester before i sold it, only 2 weeks ago, he charges $250 cash to supply and install windscreens for most cars, and he also does work for the large local Hyundai/Honda/Mazda/Subaru/Suzuki dealer. he quoted a woman $300 cash to replace the rear window on a near new Mazda 3, she told it sounded to cheap, and decided to go to Mazda to get it replaced, as she "trusted" Mazda to supply the right windscreen and do it properly, Mazda quoted $800 to do the Job, sure enough, the same windscreen fitter was called up by the dealer, and replaced the same womans rear window, only difference is she just handed $500 to the dealer for absolutly nothing...
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Interesting feedback Guys thanks.. :goodjob2:
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Linlake have seen genuine Hyundai fuel filters from $85 to $120 depending on were you go $150 seems excessive, maybe it's a large spare parts warehouse they keep them in an the parts guy spends half hour to find one so they add labour cost?
how many k's has your motor done? & how many k's since fuel filter was replaced? i have always had Betseys fuel filter changed at 30,000 as my tech said if injectors get warn or damaged they cost a lot more. have you got excessive water build up?
no i drain out all the fuel to check and gave it a good clean the car has done 53000 km it is going all good now i was towing a trailer today with about 500 kg on it all good and it still loves to rev
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An interesting fact I learnt when researching my Ryco Diesel filter is that filters actually filter better when they have some dirt in them, the filtered out dirt actually assists in filtering the fluid as it passes through. The best point of filtration is just before the whole thing clogs. Obviously you want to avoid that, but made me think about filter change intervals.
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I have to agree with beerman re the rip off prices charged by Hyundai dealers. Surely Hyundai should get these idiots to realise that the motoring public hates being ripped off.
Here's a link to my last service costs. I will not use dealers.
https://i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=9745.msg113853#msg113853 (https://i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=9745.msg113853#msg113853)
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An interesting fact I learnt when researching my Ryco Diesel filter is that filters actually filter better when they have some dirt in them, the filtered out dirt actually assists in filtering the fluid as it passes through. The best point of filtration is just before the whole thing clogs. Obviously you want to avoid that, but made me think about filter change intervals.
Thats true to a point beerman, but i've seen dirt come out of some filters after you remove them. also a filter is a restriction of flow so if it filters better dirty it just means it is more restrictive. but the thing i worry about is water in filter as the motor stop if they get too much water build up. these new common rail normaly have a warning light come on. when that happens you have to change. a diesl van at work thats common rail had that light come on, we had the filter changed then 10,000k latter came on i think we got some bad fuel with water in it, that happens. with the older diesel trucks had to pump the water out the filter or they stopped was a pain but, if all you have to do is change fuel filter when you get water in fuel, you count yourself lucky as in most cases it will hydralic the motor as water does not compress. i've seen a lot of hydraliced motors with nitro burners they do it a lot bad news.