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Title: Hyundai i45
Post by: eye30 on April 08, 2010, 10:54:53
See also the posting by jamiec :
https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,5499.0.html

Re reference to
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/32FB871D67C4365ACA2576FF0017709A


"And with two potentially game-changing vehicles – the Indian-made i20 light car and the mid-sized Sonata replacement, the i45 – in the pipeline for release mid-year, Hyundai seems set to make further waves before 2010 is out."
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: 2i30s on April 09, 2010, 12:09:30
an i20 made in India.! would it have a wooden chassis and an elephant for an engine.  :rolleyes: :lol:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Lorian on April 09, 2010, 12:36:39
I think all i20's are made in India?

Plus I think they too are in the 21st century now.

(http://www.hyundai.com/in/en/static/090170_LatestReleased_1_090170_Web.jpg)

(http://www.hyundai.com/in/en/static/090169_LatestReleased_1_090169_Web.jpg)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: 2i30s on April 09, 2010, 12:40:53
sorry.   :eek:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Lorian on April 09, 2010, 12:44:38
No need to be sorry. I just find India a fascinating country of two halves. I spent a 6 month project working with people from Mumbai and they were probably more westernised, and certainly had more gadgets than me  :)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: 2i30s on April 09, 2010, 12:52:10
I've seen pics of a company that makes water pumps and the men are in bare feet and shorts to cast,cast iron pumps.that's why i made the original comment.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: GURKHA17 on April 10, 2010, 03:49:13
http://www.themotorreport.com.au/22031/2010-hyundai-sonata-spotted-in-testing

Just looks a little different from the ones out in the market. I like this look better the grill looks better as well as the headlights are better looking.
But it does say that it is a concept.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: GURKHA17 on April 10, 2010, 03:50:12
http://www.themotorreport.com.au/22031/2010-hyundai-sonata-spotted-in-testing

Another one... :)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on April 10, 2010, 07:51:47
Without the creases in the grill it looks a bit too much like a Camry.. I think they will grow on you..

I believe these 6 photos are all "in the flesh shots" I think I'll be getting a silver one  :mrgreen:

 (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/2010_hyundai_sonata_kdm_off.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/YF.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/YF2.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/I45.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/11_sonata_frt1.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/11-hyundai-sonata-06.jpg)

This one is modified (but looks pretty cool..)  :wink:

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/YF_render.jpg)

and a couple of interior shots (I like the lighter interior)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/2010-Hyundai-Sonata-Interior-View.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/asset_upload_file39_3424.jpg)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: 2i30s on April 10, 2010, 10:06:59
i think there is about 8 or 10 different cars in the design,but it does look good,i like the burgundy one.  :razz: and black interior for me.  :cool:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: GURKHA17 on April 10, 2010, 11:01:48
Yea it does a bit I guess, the lighter interior definitely gives it a more fresh and luxurious look. :)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on April 10, 2010, 11:14:30
Amazingly I can still see a tiny bit of the current model Sonata in there  :eek:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Blue on April 11, 2010, 00:27:31
Amazingly I can still see a tiny bit of the current model Sonata in there  :eek:

Yeah, me too.

They BOTH have ROUND wheels !
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: LuciferDarklord on April 13, 2010, 13:48:31
Black interior for me...  The beige looks particularly bad around the driver's window controls and the inserts on the steering wheel  :mrgreen:  The foot-operated handbrake doesnt do it for me either.  I look forward to a proper look in the flesh of this car and also the ix-35
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on April 13, 2010, 23:05:17
Hopefully we will get other choices...Black is too dark for me and the wife doesn't like the lighter colour (we might not get the foot operated hand brake..either)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 14, 2010, 11:14:14
Do we know whether we're definitely getting the diesel? And if so, which one?
When I googled this car, some reports said that Australia might only get the petrol. I hope they're wrong.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on April 14, 2010, 11:29:33
My local dealer seems to think they will get the diesel (it's off my Christas Card list & shopping list) if petriol only... :'(

If the Sonata (i45) and Kia Magentis don't come with a diesel option I will have to consider (or at least test drive) A Mazda 6 Diesel or even a Skoda Octavia Diesel...The Ford Mondeo is a nice looker but too dear and Auto only..

As I get older as much as I love my i30 I would like to spoil myself with something a little bigger and more luxurious going forward...

I reckon they will bring in the Diesel with the popularity of the i30 diesel and the Sante Fe being diesel only...

Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 14, 2010, 11:34:00
If they do, I hope it's the 2.2 R series with either 6 speed man or 6 speed auto.
I like them in silver & white, slightly bigger rims would nice and better proportioned IMO
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on April 14, 2010, 11:36:27
Yeah, I like the silver and white .. In the US they have some nice colours including gold and a sort of Ice Blue too (Yum)

I would prefer a manual ...6 speed would be nice...
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 14, 2010, 11:38:56


I would prefer a manual ...6 speed would be nice...

Yeah, get a manual while you're still young enough for your left leg to work. 
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Surferdude on April 15, 2010, 06:06:36
I've seen pics of a company that makes water pumps and the men are in bare feet and shorts to cast,cast iron pumps.that's why i made the original comment.  :rolleyes:

I know a guy who's been over there recently to research parts supply for the Australian market and he remains horrified. And is now actively seeking another (any other) alternative.
And on a personal experience note, I can tell you they are years behind in tyre quality (behind China that is).
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: hayseed on April 15, 2010, 06:56:25
Is it just me who thinks the i45 is looking rather BMWesque? Probably the sharkfin antenna that's doing it.

Not sure I'm a fan of the shape in general though. Gives me the impression that it would be awkward to park.  :-[
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 15, 2010, 12:19:16
Is it just me who thinks the i45 is looking rather BMWesque? Probably the sharkfin antenna that's doing it.

Not sure I'm a fan of the shape in general though. Gives me the impression that it would be awkward to park.  :-[

No, I agree, I can see that. But then I can also see Camry in it.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on April 15, 2010, 12:29:51
I reckon it will look nice in the flesh.. It musn't look too bad if its number one seller in Korea and number 3 in US already... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: bumpkin on April 15, 2010, 14:48:41
I thought it looked very much like Lexus, particularly the russet coloured one.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: eye30 on April 15, 2010, 18:55:17
looked very much like Lexus

Toyota suspends sales of Lexus GX 460 worldwide

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8621402.stm
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on April 15, 2010, 23:38:42
See the bit about mazda on the bottom.. This might redress the resale values of some of "our" competitors  :razz:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: LuciferDarklord on April 16, 2010, 10:45:11
This was a similar problem when Wheels rolled a Kluger a few years back, but nothing was done about that.  I guess at the time Toyota were still feeling bulletproof.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Surferdude on April 16, 2010, 22:15:31
My wife, who is cynically astute about most things to do with politics and business has commented that it seems "very convenient" for the struggling American car makers that Toyota is having these problems at this time.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on April 17, 2010, 12:20:37
My wife, who is cynically astute about most things to do with politics and business has commented that it seems "very convenient" for the struggling American car makers that Toyota is having these problems at this time.

On that basis they are probably stripping down Hyundais in a back room somewhere looking for weakness  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on April 24, 2010, 05:51:20
I'm a bit worried now they are not going to bring in a diesel i45... :'( :'( :'(

It has been released in New Zealand in 2 petrol models  :rolleyes:  

http://www.hyundai.co.nz/new-cars/i45/

EDIT: looks like I'll be keeping my i30 a bit longer...

Global website lists i45/Sonata only with Petrol engines  :mad:

http://worldwide.hyundai.com/showroom/passenger-cars/sonata-specifications.html
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 24, 2010, 13:13:39
Hi Dazz, if Hyundai do not bring out a diesel it will be unbelievable, but the reason I mentioned this earlier is because the reports I was reading indicated it would be petrol only.
I hope that is not the case.
Australia is warming to diesels now so they would be stupid in my opinion to bring petrol only into the country.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on April 24, 2010, 13:33:02
Hi Dazz, if Hyundai do not bring out a diesel it will be unbelievable, but the reason I mentioned this earlier is because the reports I was reading indicated it would be petrol only.
I hope that is not the case.
Australia is warming to diesels now so they would be stupid in my opinion to bring petrol only into the country.

I put i45 Diesel into google and found an article about the upcoming launch and they seemed to think the R diesel was a likely inclusion.. My only hope is that they will release a diesel maybe 6 months down the track (which would be ok as I would want a 2011 build anyway...)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 25, 2010, 12:11:47
Quote
I put i45 Diesel into google and found an article about the upcoming launch and they seemed to think the R diesel was a likely inclusion.. My only hope is that they will release a diesel maybe 6 months down the track (which would be ok as I would want a 2011 build anyway...)

I will keep my fingers, legs & eyes crossed.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on April 25, 2010, 12:30:28
Thanks dave...

I will give you the "Heads UP" if I hear any more... :lol:

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Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: penak on April 29, 2010, 10:02:10
There has been lots of rumours and hints about the drivetrains of the upcoming i40/i45/Sonata (whatever the number/name  finally proves to be...).

They could not sell it in Europe withouth a diesel, that is a fact. So there will be one.

There has also been talks about a "light hybrid" with an electric motor integrated into the flywheel of the engine.
For US market that will apparently be a petrol engine based model, but at least for me, a diesel based light hybrid would be THE news.

Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on April 29, 2010, 10:07:43
Hi penak,

That is the sort of talk I like to hear... :wink:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 30, 2010, 11:46:43
Yesterday I was driving past the Hyundai head office here and saw three new (licensed) i45's and also an i20 parked in the carpark, so I went in and spoke to one of the managers (who was really helpful) and had a look at the cars.
I asked him about whether there will be a diesel and he said that it will be launched as petrol only in Australia.
Maybe 6 or 12 months' down the track they will introduce a diesel, but at this stage it is petrol only.
They are competing with Camry, hence the 4 cylinder, and the car looks very similar to Camry in my opinion, but better both inside & out.
He also said that the cars are pre-production models and haven't even been released to the dealers.
I also asked if the LPG/electric hybrid that is available in South Korea will be introduced here and he said that it won't be. They have had such cars in Sydney under evaluation but are unable to sell it here at a competitive price point.
Apparently a petrol/electrich hybri is likely in the future.
On the i20, they have been waiting to take a look at the quality of the Indian-built cars and he said that Hyundai are very happy with them as they are every bit as good (build-quality-wise) as their other vehicles being sold in Australia.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on April 30, 2010, 11:52:00
Thanks for the update Dave...

Once they find out you and I would both be prepared to open our wallets for a diesel i45 I reckon they will change their tune.. :lol:

 I can wait until early next year (but not much longer)  :cool:

There is a new small Honda sedan driving around Devonport with a similar wave through the bonnet and grill as the i45 (I must investigate the Honda website to see what it is?)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 30, 2010, 11:57:59
I told him I would only buy a diesel. I'm sure it will come, just not yet.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on May 23, 2010, 11:36:46
Don't think this review has been posted on here before.. pretty good except some negatives on high speed handling and an interesting (but disappointing comment regarding the diesel option  :-[) Might have to wait for a hybrid  :idea:

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/50349/2010-hyundai-i45-active-elite-premium-road-test-review

P.S. Spotted a Gun Metal Grey i45 in local showroom today (they were closed) Going to check it out 2moro and possibly test drive  :mrgreen: Looked yummy through the window  :exclaim:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: 2i30s on May 23, 2010, 12:17:26
the wife spoted an add on tv tonight for the i45.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on May 23, 2010, 12:24:32
the wife spoted an add on tv tonight for the i45.

I must look out for that...
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: 2i30s on May 23, 2010, 12:31:53
the wife spoted an add on tv tonight for the i45.

I must look out for that...
silver or grey the misses said it was.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: whitbomb07 on May 23, 2010, 13:21:40
The Hyundai Oz site now has a proper page for it.

No diesel at this stage, possibly forever (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!)

1 reason being is that we have the US spec model. Only the Euro spec has diesels.

Along with this US spec is dodgy US ride and handling (which I have already seen reviews go to town about)

About the only good thing engine wise is that the US spec also have a turbo petrol 2.0 and a hybrid petrol. So we might get them down the track.

Manual transmission doesn't get cruise control. But Manual is only on bottom spec.

The engine isn't too bad for a petrol and the auto is a cracker except for towing ability. It can only haul 400kg unbraked, 800 braked and 80kg at the ball.

I still have hopes for an i45 Diesel (it's the only i45 I will get) but I think we'll be waiting until next year at least. Otherwise I'll be defecting to the Mazda 6.

The ad was actually filmed in Australia and isn't CGI, it's a computer controlled spray system to create the water images.

I got to have a look at one in Newcastle yesterday and it did look awesome inside and out, but it's takes more than just a pretty face to get me going..........

Wow this has turned into a bit of a rant, it wasn't meant to be, but I think after being disappointed by the ix35 I'm annoyed that I feel like I've been let down again............

Regards

Daniel
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on May 23, 2010, 22:12:07
Scary Stuff Daniel.. :eek:

That is almost word for word on how I feel  :cool:

I am going to wait until early next year and would consider a Hybrid if no diesel (subject to pricing and driveability)

At this stage the Mazda 6 would be my next choice (and now there is a Subaru Outback Diesel but getting mixed reviews for response and a bit dearer than the i45 would likely be and dearer trhan the Mazda as well)

Title: Re: Hyundai i45 (WITH PICTURES :-))
Post by: Dazzler on May 24, 2010, 11:10:35
Went and had a look at the Gun Metal Grey i45 (Elite Model) at the local Devonport Dealer today and while the wife and I were suitably impressed we thought it would look better in Silver or White...

Were going throgh to Launceston (some 100 kms away) and decided to detour past their Showroom up there.. and guess what (they had a white Premium model with tinted glass roof)

The top model in that colour has real "presence" we LOVED it...

Here is me with the car ...

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/i45Dazz.jpg)

and a better one without me :-)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/i45Alone.jpg)

Couldn't cadge a drive as they were in the middle of product trainingall the northern sales staff...

I was so impressed with the car inside and out (looks much better in the flesh) that I would EVEN consider a petrol model (if no diesel or Hybrid comes out)

NOTE: Also had a look at the Suzuki Kizashi. Top model is very nice but not as Pretty as i45 and the base model is really bland...
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Blue on May 26, 2010, 11:05:36
No Diesel: No Deal !!

It's just a Camry Clone without a CRDi.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on May 26, 2010, 11:11:20
No Diesel: No Deal !!

It's just a Camry Clone without a CRDi.

Fair call, I'm still quietly confident either the i45 or the Kia Magentis will come out with the R diesel by the time I'm ready and I have got the Mazda 6 Diesel wagon as a backup  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Blue on May 26, 2010, 11:18:08
Magentis / Optima is likely to be cheaper too !

I think I will have a look at the new Sorrento.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on May 26, 2010, 11:21:52
Magentis / Optima is likely to be cheaper too !

I think I will have a look at the new Sorrento.

Good idea the new Sante Fe does not appeal to me looks wise (and getting a bit dear) and while I like the look of the ix35 no manual CRDi version  :mad:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: 2i30s on May 26, 2010, 11:31:13
$40.000 odd for a mazda 6 wagon.  :eek:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on May 26, 2010, 11:36:02
$40.000 odd for a mazda 6 wagon.  :eek:

I am prepared to go to around that figure (but not much higher) the Sante Fe STARTS at about $41,500 i think ...

I would expect an i45 diesel (say mid range model) to be A$36,000 TO A$38,000 on the road..

The base model manual 2.4 petrol is going to be only around A$30,000 ...
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: 2i30s on May 26, 2010, 11:46:54
not to bad a price for a bigish car.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dogga on May 26, 2010, 13:32:13
As I drove past Nunawading Hyundai today some luck bugger was heading out for a test drive.... Nice looking car!!!
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on May 26, 2010, 13:54:15
As I drove past Nunawading Hyundai today some luck bugger was heading out for a test drive.... Nice looking car!!!

Yeah my wife was gobsmacked by how much they have evolved since the days of the early excel ..  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Doggie 1 on May 27, 2010, 15:29:17
Nice pics Dazz!
As I said in an earlier post, the Hyundai guy I spoke to over here at the WA head office said although petrol only for now, possibly 6-12 months down the track for the diesel.
They are pretty classy though aren't they in the flesh?
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on May 27, 2010, 21:33:30
Thanks Dave,

The ideal car for you I know how you like Leather Upholstery and Sunroof  :wink:

The black roof really sets the white car off (look good with silver too I reckon)

I would be happy with a lesser model with a manual box and similar specs to our i30 SLX

Wife finds leather too cold to the touch in winter down here...

I believe no cruise in Manual model at this stage  :mad:

Hopefully that will change by next year too  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Hemmi on June 03, 2010, 13:43:56
The white one with glass roof is awesome! :cool:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on June 03, 2010, 22:28:19
The white one with glass roof is awesome! :cool:
 

Looks even better in the flesh (I don't need a lot of the bells and whistles but might have to pay the extra just to get that look..) :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: MRH130 on June 03, 2010, 23:03:31
I love the i45, the only problems being the fact that they're not bringing out a diesel (for a while at least) and that you can't get the nice models with a proper (i.e. manual) gearbox.  :mad:

As to the question of the diesel, while I don't have any recent inside knowledge I do know that Hyundai are very proud of and focused on their diesel technology so I can't imagine that the i45 will never come with a diesel. The R diesel in an i45 would make for a luuuuuverly car.  :mrgreen:

P.S. I am also disappointed by the "i45" badge. As far as I know Australia is the only place it's called that and my armchair guess is that they are importing the cars without the Sonata badge they would normally get and fitting the i45 badge in Australia. The badge itself looks quite crappy, like the SX/SLX/SR stickers they put on the side of i30s. The i45 badge is definitely not up to the quality standard of the i30 badge. It's a blight on a very classy car.  :neutral:

P.P.S. On another matter, if you go and look at one in a showroom make sure you check out the taillights while they're on. They look fantastic when they're lit up.   :D
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dogga on June 04, 2010, 03:58:35
While I was waiting for my 1000km service I went into the showroom to take a peek. I looks the goods, all dressed up in leather with a very fancy dash and a type of flappy paddle gear shift on the wheel.

By the look of the very dirty/scuffed chrome finish on the upper door trims it is attracting a lot of tyre kickers

Very nice 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on June 04, 2010, 11:02:41
For once in my life I'm doing lots of research before buying a car .. I intend driving an i45, a Suzuki Kizashi, a Mazda 6 Diesel and even a Camry Hybrid .. at this stage my Ideal car would have the body and interior of the i45 with an R diesel (or the mazda diesel motor) the supposed sporty handling of a Kizashi and the quietness and ride of a Camry Hybrid .. guess some test driving will tell me more .. :wink:

Seen 2 x i45 in the flesh but not with the tail lights lit up  :'(
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: whitbomb07 on June 05, 2010, 17:14:41
For once in my life I'm doing lots of research before buying a car .. I intend driving an i45, a Suzuki Kizashi, a Mazda 6 Diesel and even a Camry Hybrid .. at this stage my Ideal car would have the body and interior of the i45 with an R diesel (or the mazda diesel motor) the supposed sporty handling of a Kizashi and the quietness and ride of a Camry Hybrid .. guess some test driving will tell me more .. :wink:

Seen 2 x i45 in the flesh but not with the tail lights lit up  :'(

At this stage Dazz without a Diesel in the i45 or the i40/i-flow arriving anytime soon, the Mazda 6 Diesel is my pick and I've told Hyundai accordingly. Still no response to that email..........

Whilst not bettering the R 2.2 in max torque the 2.2 MZR-CD in the 6 does deliver it's torque over a larger rev range and in a better handling chassis..........food for thought.........

Only thing that will stop me is Mazda ruining the 6 with a stupid goofy grin like the 3, they've already started with this years model..........

Regards

Daniel
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on June 05, 2010, 22:59:45
Drove a Base model Suzuki Kizashi yesterday (only about 20km) motor very quiet at cruising speeds but this accentuated the tyre noise (about the same as the i30 which is too loud in MHO...)

She who must be obeyed was only luke warm on it .. Reckons seats too hard and didn't really like the styling .. (I like the back but not the front...)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/2010-Suzuki-Kizashi-Introduced.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/2010-suzuki-kizashi-102_cd_gallery.jpg)

Definitely hasn't got the presence of the i45 (is a bit smaller - looks a lot smaller) Has a 2.4 ltr petrol engine same as i45 with similar economy..

Handled and rides very well and the base model had enough kit for me.. Was an Auto (I prefer manuals.. so might drive one of those when available)   

Don't think I could live with 7.9 LPH after 2 years with my CRDi  :rolleyes:

No i45 available for a test drive yesterday (they are going to ring me) I'm also going to try a ix35 Diesel when they have one available (but no Manual Diesel  :mad:)

Mazda dealer STILL waiting on first of new Mazda 6 diesel wagons to arrive (I'm on a long list of people down for a test drive)

Finally, I have Monday off work and am being "given" a Camry Hybrid for the day. They look bland but otherwise they tick most of the boxes for us .. Quiet, more room, reasonable power and 6.0 LPH economy... I'll keep you posted.. :-[
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: MRH130 on June 06, 2010, 22:28:24
The Kizashi looks nice to me, but it's easy to be prejudiced against them when you look at how most Suzukis tend to age. I think resale would be a serious issue with them too. At least Hyundai is getting there with building the prestige of its name - I think Suzuki has a long way to go before people will shell out that sort of cash en masse for one of their cars.

I don't like the direction Mazda is taking with their styling. Have a look at a new Mazda3 from head on, in red, and you'd swear you're looking at an evil clown. It's over-styled and looks crap IMHO. I also don't like the quality of the plastics in the 3 OR the 6 (let alone the Thai-built 2) but the killer for me is the road noise. For some reason the NVH engineers at Mazda don't seem to be able to solve that problem which I find completely unacceptable. They have had too much road noise for a couple of generations now and having driven the new 3 I can't see much of an improvement. Most of my mileage is on the highway so maybe it bothers me more than some but I think it's a pretty fundamental flaw.

And none of the cars on Dazz's list have anything like the Hyundai warranty. Patience is a virtue, I'd (almost) bet lefty that the R-Diesel will appear in the i45 at some stage.  :D
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on June 06, 2010, 22:33:26
Hi Michael,

The salesman at Mazda admitted road noise was a problem but that in the latest Mazda 6 it had been reduced by 17%.. I am going to drive an i45 today if I get a chance and an iX35 diesel too so see what they are like (as I believe tyre noise is still an issue with them a bit too.. and like you I am over that)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Hemmi on June 06, 2010, 22:39:48
The Suzuki looks nice, but there's something I don't like about it, maybe because it reminds me of Lexus.

I would go for the i45 or the Mazda6 :wink:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: MRH130 on June 06, 2010, 22:46:45
Will be interesting to hear what you think of the i45. 17% noise reduction on the previous Mazda6 isn't enough for me - I had one as a drive car for a couple of weeks and it was running on quality 16 inch tyres but the road noise was ridiculous.

Haven't driven an ix35 yet (I have a deep-seated hatred of soft-roaders so not that interested in sampling it) but I didn't think even the Tucson was bad for road noise. I went and had a poke around in an ix35 Highlander and thought it was a good step forward from the Tucson but came away a little disappointed with the quality of the materials on the interior (although relative to its competitors it's brilliant for the money).

The i45 doesn't have that problem though, I find it very impressive inside and out.

Have you looked at the SantaFe Dazz? That's a great bit of gear.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on June 06, 2010, 22:51:41
Will be interesting to hear what you think of the i45. 17% noise reduction on the previous Mazda6 isn't enough for me - I had one as a drive car for a couple of weeks and it was running on quality 16 inch tyres but the road noise was ridiculous.

Haven't driven an ix35 yet (I have a deep-seated hatred of soft-roaders so not that interested in sampling it) but I didn't think even the Tucson was bad for road noise. I went and had a poke around in an ix35 Highlander and thought it was a good step forward from the Tucson but came away a little disappointed with the quality of the materials on the interior (although relative to its competitors it's brilliant for the money).

The i45 doesn't have that problem though, I find it very impressive inside and out.

Have you looked at the SantaFe Dazz? That's a great bit of gear.

It's a bit big Michael and I don't really like the styling .. and the base model is now around the same price as the top model ix35 (about $41,500 on the road)...
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: MRH130 on June 06, 2010, 22:56:28
Fair enuf - I'm not mad keen on the styling, but they're not half bad to drive and they're lovely inside. I take your point about the size and the price tho.  :wink:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on June 07, 2010, 09:02:02
Well for those who are interested here are my impressions of what I drove today including the Holden Cruze  :wink: :-[

The iX35 was a bit disappointing.. More diesel engine noise (and road noise) than I expected and more than the i30.. Just didn't give us the wow factor (not really our sort of vehicle) and the seats are very firm ...

The Holden Cruse Diesel was a pleasant surprise can see why they are selling well (probably not the fun factor or character of the i30 CRDi though) Probably slightly quieter than the i30 but was a bit snug inside and wife didn't find the passenger seat very comfortable..

The Camry Hybrid was as quiet and comfortable as I expected it to be BUT had less go than I expected out of 140 KW (supposed to do 0-100KPH in 8.1 seconds - doesn't feel like it)

Really need 3 cars (the Camry would be great on a long highway trip) Did about 130 kilometres in it and on the way home once I got used to how to drive it got average down to the ADR figure of 6.0 which is very good for a car of that size..

Oh and because of Batteries the boot is only about same size as i30 Hatch...

NOW for the i45.. after what I had read the i45 was a nice surprise. Fairly quiet, nice ride and steering. Could only drive an auto (as manual base model around 6 weeks away) but the changes were very smooth.. Thought it was a nicer drive than the Suzuki Kizashi and seemed to have plenty of poke...

Basically the i45 felt much more "alive" than the Camry...

At this stage think we will wait for the cheaper active model and will drive the Manual (but may go the auto as the manual isn't going to have cruise and the manual is rated at 8.0 but the auto is only 7.9 LPH) OR wait for the Diesel  :wink:



Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: MRH130 on June 07, 2010, 23:22:28
Sounds like I haven't missed much by not trying the ix35! It's a funny market though when people want a vehicle like that in the first place. Maybe we're both missing the point of them, but I've never driven a soft-roader I thought was an actual good car.

Cruze isn't without it's charm, but don't forget it's a Daewoo. I also find the turbo lag excessive and overall find it pretty unconvincing compared to the i30 - especially as a petrol.

Surely they'll eventually bring out cruise for the manual i45... ?
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on June 08, 2010, 11:30:19
This article is more an extract from the i45 brochure than a road test.. but has probably the most info I have read about the i45 all in one place...

http://www.testdrivenau.co.cc/?p=1013
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Doggie 1 on June 08, 2010, 12:11:56
Well for those who are interested here are my impressions of what I drove today including the Holden Cruze  :wink: :-[

The iX35 was a bit disappointing.. More diesel engine noise (and road noise) than I expected and more than the i30.. Just didn't give us the wow factor (not really our sort of vehicle) and the seats are very firm ...

The Holden Cruse Diesel was a pleasant surprise can see why they are selling well (probably not the fun factor or character of the i30 CRDi though) Probably slightly quieter than the i30 but was a bit snug inside and wife didn't find the passenger seat very comfortable..

The Camry Hybrid was as quiet and comfortable as I expected it to be BUT had less go than I expected out of 140 KW (supposed to do 0-100KPH in 8.1 seconds - doesn't feel like it)

Really need 3 cars (the Camry would be great on a long highway trip) Did about 130 kilometres in it and on the way home once I got used to how to drive it got average down to the ADR figure of 6.0 which is very good for a car of that size..

Oh and because of Batteries the boot is only about same size as i30 Hatch...

NOW for the i45.. after what I had read the i45 was a nice surprise. Fairly quiet, nice ride and steering. Could only drive an auto (as manual base model around 6 weeks away) but the changes were very smooth.. Thought it was a nicer drive than the Suzuki Kizashi and seemed to have plenty of poke...

Basically the i45 felt much more "alive" than the Camry...

At this stage think we will wait for the cheaper active model and will drive the Manual (but may go the auto as the manual isn't going to have cruise and the manual is rated at 8.0 but the auto is only 7.9 LPH) OR wait for the Diesel  :wink:






Dazz, wait for the diesel mate!
They will come, they have to, it's just that they're putting the i45 up against the petrol Camry to start with., but I think the diesel will come to Australia.
It would be good to get the update version too after the i45 has been around for 12 months. And you can't beat the warranty.
It seems like a long time to wait but if it does turn out to be a year, it's only 364 sleeps...........
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: snowcherry on June 08, 2010, 15:03:52
interesting reading Dazz - was wondering what had happened with your upgrading

and just to add i'm not sure i like the styling of the suzuki at all, it's just wrong in some way while trying to be lowkey.....gah
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on June 08, 2010, 23:08:56
Hi Snowcherry,

The back looks pretty flash in the flesh but the front of the Kizashi is a bit snub nosed (makes the car look even smaller than it is.. The interior of the top model is nice (on a par with the i45 in my opinion - but not as roomy) The wierd thing is the Kizashi has the same official overall fuel economy figure as the i45 petrol (7.9KPL) but apparently everything I've read suggests it is a lot higher than the i45 in real world conditions .. so even if I liked it a lot I wouldn't get one. Suzuki make very good cars in my opinion but apparently thier resale is not expected to keep pace with the newer model Hyundais...(how things change)

DAVE...

You are right.. I will try to wait (I'm getting itchy feet)  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on June 14, 2010, 12:27:55
They had a traffic expert on today/tonight (an Australian current affairs show) this evening cruising around in a FLASH NEW CAR discussing various traffic issues..

He was driving a top of the line Silver i45 (with full glass moon roof) looked gr8  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on June 30, 2010, 10:31:04
Still no sign of when the base model i45 (active) model will hit the showrooms.. hopefully about the end of July is my guess..

Hyundai has a problem that other manufacturers would like ...

"The backdrop to developing i45 trim [levels] was one of shortage of supply," said Oliver Mann, Director of Marketing for HMCA, at the launch of the new model last week.

"Already the car is a huge hit in North America; there's a backlog of orders there. [When] it went on sale in Korea, it was the fastest ever selling car there. So, when we were planning our model range, initially faced with supply constraints, we focused on the top-range versions..."

While the i45 Elite (mid-range) and i45 Premium flagship were always on the agenda for Australia, the entry-level i45 Active was a late starter, according to Mann -- simply because of production capacity.

"Hyundai is busy ramping up global production and we've been able to secure some additional production -- so we're bringing in an entry-level i45, the i45 Active."

Info is from this site...

http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2010/medium-passenger/hyundai/watchful-eye-on-i45-19469

Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: stkman on July 13, 2010, 10:34:21
Much the same in NZ ... although no manual at all at this stage. Three 2.4 litre automatics in different spec levels and a 2.0 litre automatic 'base' model. All petrol.

Have had diesels only for 20 years ... not keen to go back to petrol although like the look of the i45. Will stick with the i30 at this stage.

Andrew
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on July 13, 2010, 10:53:53
I love my Diesel (only diesel i've ever owned although I had a Diesel Courier 4X4 ute as part of an employment package a few years ago)

My short drive of an Auto i45 with the Direct Injection 2.4  :mrgreen:Petrol wasn't bad though.. Looking forward to driving a manual....
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: clackerz on July 13, 2010, 13:13:25
Yeah its a shame bout the lack of diesel in the i45's.
I'm sure though if there's enough push then a model will eventually come.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Shambles on July 13, 2010, 13:15:50
... if there's enough push then a model will eventually come.

Yeah, I'm waiting for Elle Macpherson :D



And for our friends in Oz...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: agentr31 on July 13, 2010, 13:20:58
LOL my grand father says the same thing!! he reckons we read our books upside down!!
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on July 13, 2010, 13:45:57
... if there's enough push then a model will eventually come.

Yeah, I'm waiting for Elle Macpherson :D

And for our friends in Oz...

(click to show/hide)

Thanx M8 i've always thought she'd do some of her best work upside down  :rolleyes: :wink:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: clackerz on July 14, 2010, 01:17:40
Personally I wouldn't care which way up/down/sideways she was  :twisted:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: 2i30s on July 14, 2010, 11:11:15
 :lol:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Surferdude on July 20, 2010, 12:59:27
Back on topic.  :D
I was driving up the Bruce Highway through Burpengary this evening and right after the white i30 with no rear badges  :idea:which was just in front of me pulled off towards Deception Bay :idea: I passed a woman in an i45.
Nice looking car but the stupid */*\* was driving on high beam with her fog lights on.  :twisted:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on July 20, 2010, 13:27:06
Back on topic.  :D
I was driving up the Bruce Highway through Burpengary this evening and right after the white i30 with no rear badges  :idea:which was just in front of me pulled off towards Deception Bay :idea: I passed a woman in an i45.
Nice looking car but the stupid */*\* was driving on high beam with her fog lights on.  :twisted:

What color was it Trev? My colour choices are in order of preference White, Light Silver, Burgundy...
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Surferdude on July 21, 2010, 09:15:57
^^^ 'Twas white , mate.  :cool:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: agentr31 on July 21, 2010, 10:20:29
and right after the white i30 with no rear badges  :idea:which was just in front of me pulled off towards Deception Bay :idea:

i wonder whom that might have been!! *shiftey eyes, then slowly raises hand*
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Surferdude on July 21, 2010, 10:41:48
and right after the white i30 with no rear badges  :idea:which was just in front of me pulled off towards Deception Bay :idea:

i wonder whom that might have been!! *shiftey eyes, then slowly raises hand*

Yeah. We've confirmed by pm, two members had a "close encounter" yesterday evening.
Pretty freaky when you think about it. About 1500 members around the world and two of us were one lane apart at 5.10pm yesterday.

Cool.

Trev
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: jamiec on July 31, 2010, 11:48:42
Seen my first i45 tonight at work looks better at the back then the front i think but it was a bit dark :'( must say it does draw your attention to it as it was very noticable parked in with the other cars. Very nice car hope it is still here in the morning so ican have a better look at it :D
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on July 31, 2010, 11:59:46
They look terrific in White and Silver, quite nice in Burgundy but not so good in dark grey...

Hey Jamie I'll PM you... :wink:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: jamiec on July 31, 2010, 12:06:19
Hey Dazz this one is burgundy.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on July 31, 2010, 12:20:19
Think they have a White one at Motors Burnie at the moment.. Damn I like the look of them shame I got such a good deal on a Camry Hybrid Luxury Demo (see PM for more details)  :wink: :-[
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on August 01, 2010, 12:21:03
This is interesting ... particularly the video half way down...

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/31/hyundai-sonata-hybrid-new-york-2010/
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on August 23, 2010, 00:43:15
Latest Wheels magazine has a comparison between an I45, Suzuki Kizashi, Honda Accord and Mazda 6 .. i45 came last due to that ride/ handling and steering combo that all the reviews keep harping about.. the quicker Hyundai get that sorted the better (It's probably cost them a sale to me) :'(

These comparos are fairly vague compared to how they used to be.. (in all the auto mags) I used to like the days when they compared braking distances, g forces etc etc.. The reviews are all about perceptions and feelings now (very few facts and figures that are not available in the Company brochure)  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on October 17, 2010, 21:51:43
You may or may not know that Hyundai have sorted the handling / ride issues with the i45 in Australia as a response to the caning they were getting from the local reviewers...

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/50937/2011-hyundai-i20-i30-i45-ix35-updated-new-equipment-and-variants

NOW there is talk of a wagon variant...Will be interested to see one that isn't disguised..

http://www.caradvice.com.au/86945/hyundai-i4540-wagon-spy-photos/

Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on November 06, 2010, 04:43:30
I saw a burgundy i45 Active (base model) with 16'' alloys and cloth trim in the holding yard of local Hyundai Dealer today.. Didn't look too bad, although they are still about A$32,500 drive away I think...(No photo sorry as it was pretty dirty and crammed in)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Surferdude on November 25, 2010, 22:46:00
This earned a spot on our television news last night - something along the lines of one of the cheapest to buy - one of the safest to drive.

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/51092/hyundai-i45-holden-barina-spark-earn-ancap-5-star-crash-safety-ratings (http://www.themotorreport.com.au/51092/hyundai-i45-holden-barina-spark-earn-ancap-5-star-crash-safety-ratings)

and a link to this

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/50349/2010-hyundai-i45-active-elite-premium-road-test-review (http://www.themotorreport.com.au/50349/2010-hyundai-i45-active-elite-premium-road-test-review)

Also pretty sure I saw it badged as a Sonata in Canada.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on November 25, 2010, 22:49:39
Still not many on the road.. although should build over time you would suspect...Suzuki Kizashi is a bit slow to sell as well by all accounts.. :cool:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Surferdude on November 25, 2010, 23:00:38
Still not many on the road.. although should build over time you would suspect...Suzuki Kizashi is a bit slow to sell as well by all accounts.. :cool:
Don't see many Camry Hybrids either.... :wink:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on November 25, 2010, 23:05:38
Good point.. Although I think the new adverts have lifted the numbers a bit (A lot of people look at my car - more so since the adverts which make them sound even more amazing than they are)  :wink:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Surferdude on November 26, 2010, 08:15:59
I think it has something to do with the Australian psyche and "family sized" cars.
If they like that size they can't see past Holden, Ford and Toyota - and only with "normal" petrol engines. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: MrZ on January 15, 2011, 05:42:58
i45 has outsold it's rival Kizashi for 2010!  2,038 versus 1,448.  It even beat it's cheaper sibling the Elantra (2,030) which is quite embarassing considering i45 was only on sale for half the year.  Of course, fleet sales are probably a chunk of i45 sales, while Kizashi would be almost entirely private buyers.

At the current sales rate, i45 should exceed 4,000 sales in 2011, which is respectable (and exceeds any year of the previous NF model), but does not come close to Sonata's record 1997 when over 7,000 were sold.  That figure will likely never be matched, because medium cars just aren't as popular today as they were in the mid 90s, and back then the Sonata sold for about $22,990. 

Anyway, I almost forgot to introduce myself.  I just joined up today, and I own a white i45 Premium, which I bought new in June, and have done nearly 5,000km so far.  :D
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on January 15, 2011, 08:36:05


Anyway, I almost forgot to introduce myself.  I just joined up today, and I own a white i45 Premium, which I bought new in June, and have done nearly 5,000km so far.  :D

Welcome Dave... Glad you joined up  :D

You've got a nice car there.. If I could have got the deal I got on my Camry Hybrid on a White Premium i45 I probably would have bought one.. White really sets off the i45's sexy lines and the black moonroof makes it look even better  :goodjob:

Interesting figures for the i45 versus the Kizashi .. I like the Kizashi too but almost a class smaller..
Title: Re: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: bumpkin on January 15, 2011, 09:46:30
Welcome Dave :D

Sent from my 1000ET
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Surferdude on January 15, 2011, 09:47:21
Welcome.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: MrZ on September 25, 2011, 05:26:52
This topic is very quiet lately??

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6131/i45side.jpg)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on September 25, 2011, 07:13:49
Hi again Dave.. Did you get your factory alloys chromed  :Shocked: They look great!

Would yours have the revised suspension? What sort of feedback can you give us... :winker:

Pros and Cons  :question:

I would be interested to know how your actual economy compares with the ADR figure of 7.9 LPH
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: 2i30s on September 25, 2011, 07:17:49
looks great with the chrome rims.  :mrgreen: and I'm not usually a fan of  chrome.  :wink:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: MrZ on September 25, 2011, 08:25:42
Nah, they are just plastic chrome plated hubcaps I bought for $70 on Ebay :D  They just snap on over the existing wheels.  They look brilliant though and nobody would guess they are phony.

My model is the original without the revised setup.  I got it in June 2010 less than a month after it went on sale.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on September 25, 2011, 08:31:38
Nah, they are just plastic chrome plated hubcaps I bought for $70 on Ebay :D  They just snap on over the existing wheels.  They look brilliant though and nobody would guess they are phony.

 :Shocked: First time I've seen someone put plastic cover over mag wheels  :undecided: (although they do look good.. :goodjob:)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: MrZ on September 25, 2011, 08:36:08
Well, both my left wheels had bad scrapes, so this covers them up very nicely.  New wheels would have been $250 each.  This was alot cheaper.  But that wasn't why I did it. 

Anyway fuel economy is nothing special.  Usually hovers around 12.5L doing only city driving.
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on September 25, 2011, 15:03:53
Anyway fuel economy is nothing special.  Usually hovers around 12.5L doing only city driving.

This was one of the reasons I opted for our Camry Hybrid as with stop start technology it is as economical in the city as it is on the highway .. My average by the trip computer over the past 5000 or so KMs since I last cleared it) is 6.4 LPH ... I do prefer the look of the i45 though (particularly the premium in the white) :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: MrZ on September 25, 2011, 22:17:26
Keep in mind I'm in inner Melb with very congested traffic.  Being in Tassie you would get a much better figure than what I'm getting.  The other day on a 15km or so freeway trip I got about 6.4L.  It's also probably to do with my driving style as well.  I tend to maximise every bit of torque/power it's got :D
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: MrZ on September 26, 2011, 06:07:56
Another closer up view of the chrome wheels:

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5118/chrome2j.jpg)
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8504/chrome3o.jpg)

Actually they cost me $70 + $80 shipping from the US.  Still, for $150 or $37.50 per wheel they were good value.  To get the actual wheels chrome plated would cost over $700 USD and that would require shipping them to the US to get it done as there are no places in Australia that do it.  Or you could pay $1600 for a set of already chrome plated wheels, plus shipping :)
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: rustynutz on September 26, 2011, 09:41:31
They don't look too bad..... :goodjob:

But then I'm a fan of chrome or highly polished alloy wheels........ :D
Title: Re: Hyundai i45
Post by: Dazzler on September 26, 2011, 10:54:24
Dave,

Interestingly enough I parked in front of a white Premium i45 (basically identical to yours today) and the front mag was really badly grazed  :disapp: I can see how you did yours....I tried to take a photo of the badly scratched wheel with my phone but the memory card was full (of music)  :mad:

The way the wheels are designed they protude quite a bit outside the low profile tyres. My Alloys are well inside my tyres and although I have rubbed my tyres on the curb a few times not a mark on the wheels. :sweating:

The Chome covers are very similar to the factory alloys and they look great even close up.. :goodjob:
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