Post by: calvinnwq on April 08, 2020, 03:37:47
Any ideas if this is replaceable? Couldn't figure out how to remove it or find this part.
Otherwise any suggestions?
(https://i.imgur.com/lL4lsnz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/R1fHNii.jpg)
Post by: The Gonz on April 08, 2020, 07:43:53
(https://i.ibb.co/FVP88Dm/u-https-gloimg-gbtcdn-com-soa-gb-pdm-product-pic-Distribution-2018-01-09-source-img-20180109121635-60388.jpg)
:whistler:
Post by: Dazzler on April 08, 2020, 07:55:25
They are pretty strong, you were unlucky to break one.
Not sure how they secure but if nobody comes up with a better idea I reckon my mate @The Gonz might be able to make somthing the right shape to fit over the remaining base.
He beat me! :happydance:
Post by: Surferdude on April 08, 2020, 07:59:03
But Gonzs is.
Post by: mickd on April 08, 2020, 08:01:57
(https://i.ibb.co/FVP88Dm/u-https-gloimg-gbtcdn-com-soa-gb-pdm-product-pic-Distribution-2018-01-09-source-img-20180109121635-60388.jpg)
:whistler:
Better make 2 so you can balance the red :lol:
Post by: Dazzler on April 08, 2020, 08:02:58
The OPs pictures aren't showing for me.
But Gonzs is.
Working for me. One is a picture of the normal log. The other shows the broken lug. Clean snap at the base so looks like a plug rather than a lug.
Post by: calvinnwq on April 08, 2020, 08:15:46
Good idea to 3D print, but don't have one at home. Might get a colleague to help. How would you recommend securing the printed knob on the broken side?
Post by: Dazzler on April 08, 2020, 09:23:51
On the broken side, it looks like the end of a screw. I tried to hand twist the good side to see if I could simply unscrew it, but it didn't budge. Was afraid to use pliers to do it in case the good side snaps off too!
Good idea to 3D print, but don't have one at home. Might get a colleague to help. How would you recommend securing the printed knob on the broken side?
The Gonz has a 3D printer and an i30... if the replacement was designed to fit over the broken lug some Loctite 401 glue or similar.
Post by: Surferdude on April 08, 2020, 09:45:17
They work on my PC but not my tablet or phone. :crazy1:The OPs pictures aren't showing for me.
But Gonzs is.
Working for me. One is a picture of the normal log. The other shows the broken lug. Clean snap at the base so looks like a plug rather than a lug.
Post by: The Gonz on April 08, 2020, 09:46:58
Post by: Surferdude on April 08, 2020, 09:47:35
Yeah. I know. Not the best looking solution but, failing all else, with a bit of black paint I doubt anyone would notice.
Post by: The Gonz on April 08, 2020, 09:55:36
Post by: calvinnwq on April 08, 2020, 10:14:19
If anyone can identity the part online, I could try replicating the whole piece from the image.
Have been trying to search the part but to no avail. Could only provide the picture of the non broken side. :(
Post by: Dazzler on April 08, 2020, 10:15:02
Depending on the thickness behind the base, I'd be inclined to just try a self tapping screw.
Yeah. I know. Not the best looking solution but, failing all else, with a bit of black paint I doubt anyone would notice.
I second that suggestion. I'm sure you'd be able to find one suitable in fact black ones like what come with mudflaps would already be close enough to the right colour and size. If that worked you could snap the other one off and use two screws so they matched. You would be best to drill a pilot hole in the broken lug. You would risk the lug coming out when you drill the pilot hole but that would then solve your first dilemma. :goodjob:
Post by: calvinnwq on April 08, 2020, 10:23:05
Post by: Dazzler on April 08, 2020, 10:28:36
I'll have a go again tomorrow at seeing if the good side can be unscrewed out. Otherwise I'll look at the self tapping screw option or finding something to glue over. Thanks!
Don't rush. Gonz will enjoy the challenge of making you something at an extremely reasonable cost. He is a good bloke (not putting him under pressure or anything)
..and talking of under pressure, if anyone can find the part number it is our guru Gerard @tw2005
Post by: tw2005 on April 08, 2020, 10:39:03
I've retired from being helpful, I'm joining the dark side and going to be antagonistic from now on. Can't get any darn perts from O'seas and I have Rock Auto being deceptive to a question on freight. There is no economy air freight coming in. That's from FEDEX, :crazy1: :crazy2:I'll have a go again tomorrow at seeing if the good side can be unscrewed out. Otherwise I'll look at the self tapping screw option or finding something to glue over. Thanks!
Don't rush. Gonz will enjoy the challenge of making you something at an extremely reasonable cost. He is a good bloke (not putting him under pressure or anything)
..and talking of under pressure, if anyone can find the part number it is our guru Gerard @tw2005
Post by: tw2005 on April 08, 2020, 10:40:24
Post by: tw2005 on April 08, 2020, 10:41:45
Post by: tw2005 on April 08, 2020, 10:44:34
Held on by a self tapper inside the trim
Post by: calvinnwq on April 08, 2020, 10:51:01
Is this on a PD that's under warranty?
Still within the 5 year warranty. Not sure if the genuine part is a 12 month warranty.
Post by: tw2005 on April 08, 2020, 10:56:46
Did you break it or did it fail? It should be covered except if you caused it to break, costs stuff all o'seas, I'd guess $8-11 here, hit the dealer up or wrecker but you'll likely get stuck with the whole trim so could be counter productive.Is this on a PD that's under warranty?
Still within the 5 year warranty. Not sure if the genuine part is a 12 month warranty.
Post by: calvinnwq on April 08, 2020, 10:58:18
Did you break it or did it fail? It should be covered except if you caused it to break, costs stuff all o'seas, I'd guess $8-11 here, hit the dealer up or wrecker but you'll likely get stuck with the whole trim so could be counter productive.Is this on a PD that's under warranty?
Still within the 5 year warranty. Not sure if the genuine part is a 12 month warranty.
Car was bought used with it already broken unfortunately.
Post by: tw2005 on April 08, 2020, 11:04:16
Did you break it or did it fail? It should be covered except if you caused it to break, costs stuff all o'seas, I'd guess $8-11 here, hit the dealer up or wrecker but you'll likely get stuck with the whole trim so could be counter productive.Is this on a PD that's under warranty?
Still within the 5 year warranty. Not sure if the genuine part is a 12 month warranty.
Car was bought used with it already broken unfortunately.
Bugger!
Post by: mickd on April 08, 2020, 11:04:44
Think you're mistakenDid you break it or did it fail? It should be covered except if you caused it to break, costs stuff all o'seas, I'd guess $8-11 here, hit the dealer up or wrecker but you'll likely get stuck with the whole trim so could be counter productive.Is this on a PD that's under warranty?
Still within the 5 year warranty. Not sure if the genuine part is a 12 month warranty.
Car was bought used with it already broken unfortunately.
Post by: tw2005 on April 08, 2020, 11:07:09
sneaky, although it will be hard to justify failure.Think you're mistakenDid you break it or did it fail? It should be covered except if you caused it to break, costs stuff all o'seas, I'd guess $8-11 here, hit the dealer up or wrecker but you'll likely get stuck with the whole trim so could be counter productive.Is this on a PD that's under warranty?
Still within the 5 year warranty. Not sure if the genuine part is a 12 month warranty.
Car was bought used with it already broken unfortunately.
Post by: The Gonz on April 08, 2020, 12:41:02
P.S. Can you make 2 x friction plates and 2 x steel plates for a A5HF1 trans with these 3D thingies. @The Gonz:faint:
Post by: The Gonz on April 08, 2020, 12:51:02
- neatly drill through the centre of the broken base
- replicate a spacer that matches the healthy post's profile (3D printed of course!)
- use a self tapper in the new hole to hold the spacer in place
For this idea to take flight (mandatory air force reference) just post accurate measurements:
- upper (head) diameter
- lower (post) diameter
- head thickness and post height
- dimensions of the necessary self-tapping screw
I can use the image of the healthy one to use the measurements effectively and post a 3D file for you to give to your nearest printer, or we can determine postage cost (item manufacturing cost probably less than A$1).
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However, googling the part number kindly supplied by tw, and his comment, I suspect the screw comes from inside, in which case you may need to remove the trim before you're able to remove the posts anyway. I that case, It will be simpler for me to design a whole new piece and you can use the screw that should already be there.
Post by: calvinnwq on April 08, 2020, 12:56:32
I'm picturing a rather elegant workaround:
- neatly drill through the centre of the broken base
- replicate a spacer that matches the healthy post's profile (3D printed of course!)
- use a self tapper in the new hole to hold the spacer in place
For this idea to take flight (mandatory air force reference) just post accurate measurements:
- upper (head) diameter
- lower (post) diameter
- head thickness and post height
- dimensions of the necessary self-tapping screw
I can use the image of the healthy one to use the measurements effectively and post a 3D file for you to give to your nearest printer, or we can determine postage cost (item manufacturing cost probably less than A$1).
I'll report back tomorrow!
Post by: The Gonz on April 08, 2020, 13:31:50
(https://i.ibb.co/9T0ZLYL/i30hook.png)
This suggests it indeed fastens from within, so you'll need to get the trim off to replace it.
If you're keen on one, I can do it up this weekend in any colour you like as long as it is red, then you can paint it black or grey to suit.
Confirm with a few details (including diameter to check I have the right scale) in a PM and we can talk
Post by: asathorny on April 08, 2020, 18:44:49
Post by: eye30 on April 08, 2020, 20:17:48
Or at least provide advice on replacing and part number etc
You didn't break it so you do not know actual cause.
Post by: mickd on April 09, 2020, 01:23:48
Never mind, Calvin, I have the design now, no need for specs:
(https://i.ibb.co/9T0ZLYL/i30hook.png)
This suggests it indeed fastens from within, so you'll need to get the trim off to replace it.
If you're keen on one, I can do it up this weekend in any colour you like as long as it is red, then you can paint it black or grey to suit.
Confirm with a few details (including diameter to check I have the right scale) in a PM and we can talkdollarscents. :goodjob:
POST # 32 ! , not starved of activities at all :lol: :rofl:
Post by: calvinnwq on April 09, 2020, 02:21:22
I've removed both knobs by removing the trims and unscrewing them. They look like they have protruding points to guide them into the hole slot.
(https://i.imgur.com/rfFDmB6.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yjQOHZC.jpg)
Measurements
(https://i.imgur.com/QEN42QW.png?1)
3mm is the diameter of the screw hole. Area between the 5mm -> 3mm is sloped to allow those angled screw heads although the ones here are flat.
Post by: Dazzler on April 09, 2020, 03:55:44
Post by: The Gonz on April 09, 2020, 08:32:07
I don't see those aligning side posts as vital. It'll work just as well without them.
In fact, you should be tightening the screw by holding the post, not letting those tiny things stop the spinning.
One thing that would improve the finished product is my adding an internal thread because the 3D printed product is a lot harder than the soft plastic you have now.
Can you provide accurate internal and external thread diameters for the screw?
If you're technically inclined, you might even try matching it to one these:
:link: McMaster-Carr (https://www.mcmaster.com/screws/tapping-wood-and-drywall-screws/tapping-screws-for-plastic/)
If not, I'll got with the dimensions you will report, and print you two so they match.
Post by: tw2005 on April 09, 2020, 09:00:01
Never mind, Calvin, I have the design now, no need for specs:Won't you have to crash test it first?
(https://i.ibb.co/9T0ZLYL/i30hook.png)
This suggests it indeed fastens from within, so you'll need to get the trim off to replace it.
If you're keen on one, I can do it up this weekend in any colour you like as long as it is red, then you can paint it black or grey to suit.
Confirm with a few details (including diameter to check I have the right scale) in a PM and we can talkdollarscents. :goodjob:
Post by: CraigB on April 09, 2020, 09:03:08
Post by: The Gonz on April 09, 2020, 09:11:54
Won't you have to crash test it first?:faint:
Post by: The Gonz on April 09, 2020, 09:13:22
Another simple replacement being the trim is removed would be a black high tensile 25mm x 3mm cup head bolt and two matching nuts and washers :)You're no fun, Craig. :Pout:
Post by: CraigB on April 09, 2020, 09:25:57
I had fun working out required parts and a trip to Bunnings will fix in 10 minutes :DAnother simple replacement being the trim is removed would be a black high tensile 25mm x 3mm cup head bolt and two matching nuts and washers :)You're no fun, Craig. :Pout:
Post by: calvinnwq on April 09, 2020, 10:01:37
Seems to me the external thread diameter is 3.5mm - 4mm. Internal is between 2mm - 2.5mm.
(https://i.imgur.com/ekxkEFE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZEAzfzM.jpg)
Post by: calvinnwq on April 09, 2020, 10:03:05
Another simple replacement being the trim is removed would be a black high tensile 25mm x 3mm cup head bolt and two matching nuts and washers :)
sounds doable as well. but let's try the more fun and aesthetic way. :D
Post by: The Gonz on April 09, 2020, 10:49:52
Post by: calvinnwq on April 09, 2020, 10:54:56
~1.66667mm thread pitch
Post by: mickd on April 09, 2020, 11:12:43
Post by: The Gonz on April 09, 2020, 11:36:44
Job done. :goodjob:
(https://i.ibb.co/Y3DTzks/screw.png)(https://i.ibb.co/NZsSjbz/shefhook-thrd.png)
Post by: Dazzler on April 09, 2020, 11:37:39
Post by: Dazzler on April 09, 2020, 11:39:00
(https://i.ibb.co/FVP88Dm/u-https-gloimg-gbtcdn-com-soa-gb-pdm-product-pic-Distribution-2018-01-09-source-img-20180109121635-60388.jpg)
:whistler:
I think I want one of these now! :mrgreen:
Post by: The Gonz on April 09, 2020, 11:39:22
A thread about a thread.. I told you this was pretty cool. :lol:Could have been a thread about a knob but you were being nice. :lol:
Post by: calvinnwq on April 09, 2020, 12:05:41
Post by: Shambles on April 09, 2020, 12:22:22
Quote from: calvinnwq
We can continue this in PM :)
Don't you dare :drinks: :Cuppa:
Post by: Dazzler on April 09, 2020, 12:42:43
:rofl: :whsaid: :iws:Quote from: calvinnwqWe can continue this in PM :)
Don't you dare :drinks: :Cuppa:
Post by: asathorny on April 09, 2020, 13:13:38
Post by: asathorny on April 09, 2020, 13:14:29
Post by: calvinnwq on April 11, 2020, 02:35:20
Righto, I was able to derive an approximate model of the screw based on your measurements and subtracted it from the hole on the post. The important metrics are those permitting the inner diameter to fit and the outer to bite into the plastic with mild resistance.
Job done. :goodjob:
(https://i.ibb.co/Y3DTzks/screw.png)(https://i.ibb.co/NZsSjbz/shefhook-thrd.png)
@The Gonz let me know how we can sort the rest out :)
Post by: The Gonz on April 11, 2020, 02:53:15
Post by: tw2005 on April 11, 2020, 08:09:34
Post by: The Gonz on April 11, 2020, 08:25:11
do we get to see the finished product? Or is it pay per viewYou've already seen the CAD item. How about once the transaction is complete and manufacture begins, I upload a picture of the items in production and Calvin then uploads a picture of them painted and installed?
Post by: Shambles on April 11, 2020, 08:49:28
Post by: tw2005 on April 11, 2020, 09:07:26
God dam contracts, don't you just press send? :faint:do we get to see the finished product? Or is it pay per viewYou've already seen the CAD item. How about once the transaction is complete and manufacture begins, I upload a picture of the items in production and Calvin then uploads a picture of them painted and installed?
Post by: The Gonz on April 11, 2020, 09:17:53
God dam contracts, don't you just press send? :faint:Err, I can send the design file but the finished items need postage. :Dunno:
We're not in Starfleet yet! :crazy1:
(https://i.ibb.co/kgTJVsB/images-16080-L.gif)
Post by: calvinnwq on April 11, 2020, 09:26:02
Post by: tw2005 on April 11, 2020, 09:26:26
no one home, it sems, isolation :whistler:God dam contracts, don't you just press send? :faint:Err, I can send the design file but the finished items need postage. :Dunno:
We're not in Starfleet yet! :crazy1:
(https://i.ibb.co/kgTJVsB/images-16080-L.gif)
Post by: The Gonz on April 11, 2020, 11:56:43
:link: Download 3D printing files 150x43mm to 100x25mm panel ? Cults (https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/gadget/150x43mm-to-100x25mm-panel)
The problem is about trying to mount this:
into this:
to get something like this:
Oh, and this morning I got an email telling me I'd sold another of my online designs, this time for a security camera wall mount. :happydance:
Post by: The Gonz on April 19, 2020, 03:07:31
(https://i.ibb.co/y0W5gWR/Webcam-1587261878.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
Post by: mickd on April 19, 2020, 04:15:17
Post by: The Gonz on April 20, 2020, 11:17:49
Post by: mickd on April 20, 2020, 12:25:19
Post by: The Gonz on April 20, 2020, 14:07:10
Another satisfied customer :goodjob2: :goodjob:Keep the expectation up, though, Mick. @calvinnwq is on the hook to complete the pictorial saga with shots of the finished item fitted. :winker:
Post by: calvinnwq on April 28, 2020, 06:05:28
The screw holes ended up being a tad too narrow so might have to hit up Bunnings for some new screws at some point and some spray paint. But otherwise they fit great into the slot hole, just need the right screw to secure them down or drill the holes a little larger.
Will add some images at some point.
Post by: The Gonz on April 28, 2020, 08:00:10
The screw holes ended up being a tad too narrow so might have to hit up Bunnings for some new screws at some point and some spray paint.I guess you're going to Bunnings anyway but the perfect outcome for me is no added unnecessary cost. Without having the screws with me, I opted for a slightly conservative dimension. If the holes ended up too big it would have been a minor design disaster. :lol:
You can carefully drill out the holes in between testing the screws until they're good, but it's up to you what works best. :winker:
Post by: calvinnwq on April 28, 2020, 09:04:13
Comparisons:
(https://i.imgur.com/QJujZo5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gI76nH9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Q6lDkSd.jpg)
The other 2 were more evenly shaped and i went with one of those as the replacement piece.
(https://i.imgur.com/1HC9hvm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MTqsVRx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XkKefxB.jpg)
I used 2 spring washers + a large washer to actually fill out the hole edges.
Did not get any spray paint, but I'll live with the red knob for now until I decide to buy a can.
Thanks everyone for following this journey, it's been fun.
Also big props to @The Gonz especially. :goodjob2:
Post by: mickd on April 28, 2020, 11:06:23
Hint: nail polish works well :victory:
Post by: The Gonz on April 28, 2020, 11:10:15
I thought I said somewhere to get 2, a matching set. Must've only thought it.I sent Calvin 3 of gradually improving quality, which gave the option of using the best one, or two, and spare.
Hint: nail polish works well :victory:
Post by: calvinnwq on April 28, 2020, 11:48:01
Post by: mickd on April 29, 2020, 00:46:40
Looks a little rough around the edges :lol:
Post by: Dazzler on April 29, 2020, 03:58:57
Could do that with your avatar too.
Looks a little rough around the edges :lol:
Gee I hadn't "spotted" that before.
Post by: The Gonz on April 29, 2020, 10:24:34
Could do that with your avatar too.:lol: :winker:
Looks a little rough around the edges :lol:
Post by: sub11z on June 16, 2020, 06:42:21