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Title: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on June 05, 2010, 16:46:05
hey everyone,
my name is Hen and I'm from Israel
I have an I30 1.6L Supreme w\ Automatic transmission
got it about a month and a week ago from the dealership
since the car was in my hands from no vibration (according to my big brother) to vibrations that are a little bit stronger then it used to be after a while
we have a concern on the effect it might cause to the car in the future
my brother had this thing checked out in the garage and they told him its a known issue from production or something similar
(i'm not sure if it's exactly what they said, i'll ask my brother tomorrow and write it down)
I'd like to know if this thing is okay? should I be concern for whats coming ahead?
did it happen to you and if so, what can I do about it?

thank you  8)
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Shambles on June 05, 2010, 17:35:48
Hi Hen.

Just looking at the Israeli Hyundai website it looks like all your models (Inspire, Premium, Supreme) are petrol models so not like our CRDi (which is not gasoline but diesel).

When does the vibration happen? Is it when you are accellerating, and what does it feel like. Does it feel like a "wobble" through the tyres and steering wheel or is it the whole body of your car that vibrates?

Have you any friends who can let you drive their i30 to see if they have the same problem?
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on June 05, 2010, 20:12:40
yes, it's a petrol model
it happens while the car is not moving when it's on D and my brother felt it while on P
thw whole car is vibrating (you hold the wheel and feel it better)
I have to mention that when the A\C is off the car is vibrating less but stil vibrates also when you put it on N

I asked a friend with I30 about it and his car doesn't vibrate

thanks for helping! :)
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Shambles on June 05, 2010, 21:31:16
Doesn't sound right AT ALL


... checked out in the garage and they told him its a known issue from production or something similar...


Ask them what this "known issue" is, and when are they going to fix it. Ask them to check the engine mounting bolts
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on June 05, 2010, 22:11:01
Doesn't sound right AT ALL

Ask them what this "known issue" is, and when are they going to fix it. Ask them to check the engine mounting bolts
i'm not sure if it's exactly what they said, i'll ask my brother tomorrow and write it down

now i'm concern.. :|

i'll ask them that, thanks  :wink:
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Dazzler on June 05, 2010, 22:15:59
Hi Nesher and welcome to the club.. Hopefully we can help you get this sorted (sounds a bit weird!) We have nearly 1400 (legit) members in over 50 countries and it is not a KNOWN problem here...
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on June 05, 2010, 22:26:26
thanks Dazzler...
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: agentr31 on June 06, 2010, 07:09:06
its not idleing (sp) too low is it... sounds like thats the problem as when you turn the aircon on it puts more load on the motor... although the air con compensates by increasing the idle RPM
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on June 06, 2010, 16:50:09
i didn't notice any increase in RPM...
and my brother told that the mechanic told him that's the car, he showed him a car with 20K Km and it was vibrating 5 times than ours
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: bumpkin on June 06, 2010, 20:14:43
Well unless Hyundai Israel add something to make a vibration, this does not sound correct, I have a 2 year old vibration free 1.6 petrol and if it started vibrating it would be back to the dealer pronto and I would not accept the "they all do that mate" excuse. :evil:
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on June 06, 2010, 21:13:56
it's now more than slightly...
tuesday morning I'm in the dealership and I won't take "it happens" for an answer!!
hopefully I still be a member of this club here but with a 100% working vibration free car :)
I really love the I30 and it's a shame that this thing happend to me or to anyone with a new car...
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Shambles on June 06, 2010, 21:47:00
Good luck mate, we're all behind you :)

Your dealership should understand that you, as a buyer, are not happy that the car feels wrong. You don't have to endure (put up with) a new car that doesn't feel right, even if other cars that they have do the same thing.
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Dazzler on June 06, 2010, 22:29:25
If they give you the same spiel agin refer them to this site (and this thread in particular)

You can say you have referred the problem to a "panel of experts :wink: from all over the world  :cool:
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on June 17, 2010, 19:04:00
small update:
went to the dealership last week, they didn't do anything special... i went the second time
demanded to return the car, one of the managers said that i can't and i should sent a mail\fax to meet with hyundai regional manager, so i did.. they setup a meeting for next tuesday, i'll you all know what is the final verdict
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Dazzler on June 17, 2010, 22:16:22
Thanks for the update Nesher.. I think you will get a result now  :D
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: hipposniper on June 18, 2010, 00:29:10
best of luck
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on June 18, 2010, 10:14:28
thanks mates!
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: 2i30s on June 18, 2010, 12:56:10
the wife's 2.0 petrol auto has a slight vibration on idle in gear. but its not that violent.
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Shambles on June 18, 2010, 13:15:20
the wife's 2.0 petrol auto has a slight vibration on idle in gear. but its not that violent.

The wife or the car? :P
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: hipposniper on June 18, 2010, 17:27:56
lol
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: 2i30s on June 19, 2010, 06:19:21
the wife's 2.0 petrol auto has a slight vibration on idle in gear. but its not that violent.

The wife or the car? :P
the wife can get violent,believe me.  :lol:
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Lakes on June 19, 2010, 20:50:59
Hi Nesher, good luck with your car.
what is the idle speed at? like what rpm show on the tach @ idle? also does it idle with all 4 cylinders? I know of one Jap car maker thats 1.3 4 cylinder shuts down cylinders @ idle speed to cut down polution and improve economy. and they were making them like that 15 years back. my friend thought the car had a problem. but it was in the design. it got really good economy.
ps i have a Harley Davidson that vibrates a lot at idle too :lol:
Cheers
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on June 20, 2010, 19:51:05
it's around 700 RPM at idle.. with or without the a\c
about the cylinders, i'm not sure how to check that and since the car was in their shop twice i guess it's not the problem
if i had a harley that doesn't vibrate i'd go to the factory my self ;)
thanks :)

btw, they pushed the meeting to thursday, we'll see how it goes.. i'll you all know ^_^
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: babis_xo on June 21, 2010, 12:40:38
Hi Hen,
Accept no excuses at that meeting.
Take some video recordings which indicates the issue and tell them that you will upload them on YouTube, so you can find a solution from others. It works 99% :wink:
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Lorian on June 21, 2010, 13:07:48
I haven't got a petrol to compare with but isn't 700rpm idle a bit low?
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: hipposniper on June 21, 2010, 17:42:00
mines a petrol too, and it never that low, idel's about 1,000. it may be its too low on idel speed.. again best of luck
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: babis_xo on June 24, 2010, 09:48:41
I haven't got a petrol to compare with but isn't 700rpm idle a bit low?

My 1.4 petrol (manual gearbox) idles above 800rpm

mines a petrol too, and it never that low, idel's about 1,000.

Is yours a 1.4 or 1.6? Manual or auto?
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on June 27, 2010, 20:07:41
so I went to see the regional manager, he drove the car (and it's was slightly vibrating during his test)
he said that the car is fine and there is nothing to worry about
I of course mentioned that this phenomena is not familiar across the world and even people in Israel don't have that problem.. (still got the same answer, it's normal even in a new car)
he will consult the manufacture to see how to improve the car vibrations

anyways, still have the car (returning it will not be easy if at all possible and quite frankly I prefer having the car but fixed\new)


yesterday, before the meeting when my friend fueled up his car i thought it may be the reason I'm having this problem
me and my brother fill it up in the same place (funny enough near the Hyundai dealership)
cause it's cheaper... maybe it's cheaper cause it's not as high quality as needed for the car..
so I'll check it out :)

thank you guys for all the help and support! we will keep trying to fix this situation any updates will be given if needed
Cheers and have a great week ;)
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Shambles on June 27, 2010, 20:24:36
Thanks for the update, Nesher :)

In our country "the customer is always right". Sounds like that's not the case in Israel :(
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on June 27, 2010, 21:12:36
no problem, i think it's important not just for me!
and sadly it's not the case here... if the law in my country was more consumer friendly I'd be having less problems ;)
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: 2i30s on June 27, 2010, 22:01:14
nesher,your car should idle at about 700rpm IN GEAR. [aprox]   :idea:
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: eye30 on June 28, 2010, 19:02:42
Just 2 very late comment.

1.Does having the steering wheel on the left cause a problem with the gear linkage set up within the engine compartment when compared to a right hand drive car?

ie. my RHD car, looking forward, the gear linkage goes over to the left.  No obstructions etc.

2. What does it idle at?
 low or high will cause vibration
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on June 28, 2010, 19:55:42
for the first question i don't think it matters... should it be?

as for the second q. it's approximately on 700RPM on idle (doesn't change when in N or when a\c is on or off)
so it's like 2i30's said it should be...
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: 2i30s on June 29, 2010, 04:08:29
how many kms has the car done.?
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Shambles on June 29, 2010, 08:19:14
how many kms has the car done.?

Silly question. You can see the mileage on the photo in his sig :rolleyes: :lol: :P :P
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: 2i30s on June 29, 2010, 08:28:15
how many kms has the car done.?

Silly question. You can see the mileage on the photo in his sig :rolleyes: :lol: :P :P
he does low kms.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on June 29, 2010, 10:42:21
we did about 2300Km already
it started almost at the beginning, my brother said he noticed it at around 150-200Km
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on July 05, 2010, 16:40:44
another small update... after contacting the manufacture
the manager said I need to update the car computer and that should help with the issue
once it will be done I'll let you all know if it helped...
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Dazzler on July 05, 2010, 22:17:41
another small update... after contacting the manufacture
the manager said I need to update the car computer and that should help with the issue
once it will be done I'll let you all know if it helped...

Maybe progress at last.. Fingers crossed  :D
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: Nesher on July 11, 2010, 20:29:12
so progress was made!
the car seem to work better and with less vibrations (still there are from time to time, not as bad they used to be)
but we are still need more time to see if it was effective
we also wanna check the fuel theory

thanks again for the support, great forum with great people ;)
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: agentr31 on July 12, 2010, 11:44:57
nice to see some results nesher!!!
Title: Re: car is slightly vibrating when in "Gear"
Post by: 2i30s on July 13, 2010, 10:16:48
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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