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Title: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: Pinky on June 08, 2010, 12:07:04
Hi everyone,

Firstly, thank you for such an informative and useful site!  I've learned so much about the i30 here from honest opinion and thought away from co's and businesses that receive royalties for positive advertising, so a big THANK YOU!

A bit about me - I have 2 young children, I'm studying and my husband works away a lot (navy).  We currently have a beast of a tank that we deperately need to be rid of, a Kia Grand Carnival.  Our plans of having a HUGE family have crashed down to being a small family, so the i30cw will suit us and our dog beautifully (still have to get a dog lol).

Anyhoo, hubby and I are having diagreements about the model that we should get.  I want the cruise control and rear park assist (loved that on our Mazda3) so I want the SLX, but hubby wants to keep a smaller budget and just go for the SX.  We want the diesel either way.  I prefer manual, but am happy to drive auto.  Hubby cant actually drive a manual (sad I know) but is willing to learn to keep the price down.

So I'm a bit confused about a few things that I'm hoping to get some help with.
*  Does the SX actually come in a manual diesel?
*  Apart from the wheels, cruise & park assist, what real benefits does the SLX hold over the X?
*  Where can I find the prices online for all options?
*  Do you think that getting the SX and adding on the cruise control as an accessory would cost less than the difference of the SX and the SLX?

Anything else anyone can offer is welcomed :)
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: agentr31 on June 08, 2010, 12:18:06
the SX CRDi is what i own... its uber cheap to run!

the SX does come in manual diesel, thats what i bought! i dont think you can get the prices for accecories on line well i couldnt find them anyway i had to ask... shop around for accecories (mud flaps, floor mats ect ect) as they all have different prices

cruise shouldnt cost much it was offered to me... i have fogotten what she said unfortunatly :-[ i delcined as i use the car to go to work in traffic, and if i want a highway cruiser i have my other car which is better for long distances

Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: 2i30s on June 08, 2010, 12:19:55
im not too sure the crdi comes with the cruise control.you can option an sx to have cruise for $400 [on a petrol model].  :neutral:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: 2i30s on June 08, 2010, 12:39:35
pinky,if you google i30 Australia you should be able to find the oz site about what you do and don't get on each model,it tells you about engines, transmissions ,colors ,interior and accessories.my wife and i looked for hours before we hit the actual dealers for a proper look.i used this site also as a guide and learnt so much about these amazing little cars that i actually was able to tell my salesman things he didn't know .  :lol: :cool:  this is an excellent site.  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Lorian on June 08, 2010, 12:42:14
This doesn't have prices, but it shows you whats standard and whats optional for each spec car.

http://www.hyundai.com.au/vehicles/i30/downloads/i30_specsheet.pdf
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: 2i30s on June 08, 2010, 12:46:35
thats the one,thanx lorion.  :razz:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Mutley on June 08, 2010, 13:00:42
Hi everyone,

Firstly, thank you for such an informative and useful site!  I've learned so much about the i30 here from honest opinion and thought away from co's and businesses that receive royalties for positive advertising, so a big THANK YOU!

A bit about me - I have 2 young children, I'm studying and my husband works away a lot (navy).  We currently have a beast of a tank that we deperately need to be rid of, a Kia Grand Carnival.  Our plans of having a HUGE family have crashed down to being a small family, so the i30cw will suit us and our dog beautifully (still have to get a dog lol).

Anyhoo, hubby and I are having diagreements about the model that we should get.  I want the cruise control and rear park assist (loved that on our Mazda3) so I want the SLX, but hubby wants to keep a smaller budget and just go for the SX.  We want the diesel either way.  I prefer manual, but am happy to drive auto.  Hubby cant actually drive a manual (sad I know) but is willing to learn to keep the price down.

So I'm a bit confused about a few things that I'm hoping to get some help with.
*  Does the SX actually come in a manual diesel?
*  Apart from the wheels, cruise & park assist, what real benefits does the SLX hold over the X?
*  Where can I find the prices online for all options?
*  Do you think that getting the SX and adding on the cruise control as an accessory would cost less than the difference of the SX and the SLX?

Anything else anyone can offer is welcomed :)


1. For the SX CW, it does come in manual diesel but the SLX CW only comes in automatic. (see link lower)
2. SLX gets climate control, cruise control, fog lights, steering wheel controls for cruise and stereo, 6 speakers instead of 4, different material on the seats, aluminium finished in the car like on steering wheel & dash etc, chrome interior door handles, body coloured exterior handles and bits, 16" alloy wheels instead of 15" hub caps, fancier trip computer that does more things, leather steering wheel and gear knob (manual) not sure about auto, driver seat has lumbar adjustment, rear park assist. That's about most of it.
3. Best to ask the dealer for prices, otherwise you will need to search for aftermarket options.
4. There was a cruise control and fog light pack for $400 in March, not sure if it's still the same.

Here's a price guide for you NOTE GUIDE:
Manuals are cheaper than automatics.

SX manual diesel: $24390
SX auto diesel: $26390
SX manual diesel with cruise & fog pack: $24790
SX auto diesel with cruise & fog pack: $26790
SLX auto diesel: $29890

Then you have to consider options like tint, floor mats, dash mat, visors, bonnet protector, headlight protectors, roof racks, ipod cable, towball, whatever else you wish. Do not get paint and fabric protection, at least from the dealer, it's not worth it.

Here are the specs and options: http://www.hyundai.com.au/vehicles/i30/downloads/i30_specsheet.pdf (http://www.hyundai.com.au/vehicles/i30/downloads/i30_specsheet.pdf)
Have a look here too: http://www.hyundai.com.au/i30-CW/default.aspx (http://www.hyundai.com.au/i30-CW/default.aspx)

2i30s: Diesel does have cruise lol, why wouldn't it.
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Pinky on June 08, 2010, 13:00:50
im not too sure the crdi comes with the cruise control.you can option an sx to have cruise for $400 [on a petrol model].  :neutral:

Hmm - on the specs sheet (thank you Lorion!) it just has the cruise an option on the SX - it doesn't specify that its CRDi standard.  Guess thats a question for the dealership.

Do different dealerships have different pricing structures?  I thought that they would all be the same (state-by-state anyway...?)
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Pinky on June 08, 2010, 13:07:55
3. Best to ask the dealer for prices, otherwise you will need to search for aftermarket options.
4. There was a cruise control and fog light pack for $400 in March, not sure if it's still the same.

Here's a price guide for you for a hatch (I don't know if the wagon is more or not) NOTE GUIDE:
Manuals are cheaper than automatics.
SX manual diesel: $23490
SX manual diesel with cruise & fog pack: $23890
SLX manual diesel: $26990

Then you have to consider options like tint, floor mats, dash mat, visors, bonnet protector, headlight protectors, roof racks,ipod cable, whatever else you wish. Do not get paint and fabric protection, at least from the dealer, it's not worth it.

Here are the specs and options: http://www.hyundai.com.au/vehicles/i30/downloads/i30_specsheet.pdf (http://www.hyundai.com.au/vehicles/i30/downloads/i30_specsheet.pdf)

2i30s: Diesel does have cruise lol, why wouldn't it.

Oh I dont think I could live without my cruise control!  We do a lot of highway driving and plan on driving to Melbourne later on in the year and I just cant imagine crossing the Nullabor without cruise control.

Thanks for the info Mutt - I found some prices online, but I'm not sure if these are the same in every dealership - or if they include all the driveaway costs...?
http://au.hyundai.clientsites.carspecs.jato.com/au.hyundai/browser.asp?guid=BE0668200F9F4E6D88E81FD6D0223F7B&screen=select&category=select_version&country=&translated_country=&translated_make=Hyundai&localmake=Hyundai&make=HYUNDAI&model=&localmodel=i30cw&translated_model=i30cw

I'm starting to think that we can probably survive without a lot of those extras on the SLX for the saving and just add on the extra for the cruise control.

Thanks for mentioning the fabric and paint protection - thats a question I didnt ask.  I just assumed that if I got tinting, fabric protection and paint protection from Hyundai then they would be covered by my new car warranty - but maybe not?  Does any part of the warranty become null&void if I get these things done after-market?
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: agentr31 on June 08, 2010, 13:13:58
yer prices vary greatly even between the same dealer but at 2 different locations

i was quoted $22750 at one and at the dealers other yard 15km away i was quoted $26444 for the same car, they even said they could get it from the other yard that day if i was keen LOL

if its anyhelp i paid $22750 all up for my manual SX CRDi... you can do better than advertised, just go in at the end of the month and have CASH... make sure its ready to go the same day and tell them straight that if its a good price you will take it today, never tell them what your willing to spend either leave them in limbo

buy all options after, it works out heaps more expensive to get them to throw it in if your getting finance, think about it your paying interest on them for the next 5 years (or 3 years) plus then you can ask for discount on them as your paying cash!! (or trade price if you can) NEVER get paint protection, fabric protection or the rubbish the try and sell you, seat covers, floor mats and regular washing/polishing will do more than what they could even dream of offering...

Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: 2i30s on June 08, 2010, 13:14:56
it can vary from dealer to dealer but money talks,your trade in also helps.you can bargain with them also on your accessories like mats,wind visors and a full tank of fuel.  we did.  :mrgreen: [ we didn't trade our old cars we sold them privately. ]
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Mutley on June 08, 2010, 13:17:19
I edited my post above with more info for you while you were posting with those prices and a bit more info.

Prices are driveaway.

You should be able to get a lower price than these and get a few accessories thrown in :cool:

Also now would be a good time to buy/bargain (end of financial year).
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Pinky on June 08, 2010, 13:18:36
yer prices vary greatly even between the same dealer but at 2 different locations

i was quoted $22750 at one and at the dealers other yard 15km away i was quoted $26444 for the same car, they even said they could get it from the other yard that day if i was keen LOL

if its anyhelp i paid $22750 all up for my manual SX CRDi... you can do better than advertised, just go in at the end of the month and have CASH... make sure its ready to go the same day and tell them straight that if its a good price you will take it today, never tell them what your willing to spend either leave them in limbo

buy all options after, it works out heaps more expensive to get them to throw it in if your getting finance, think about it your paying interest on them for the next 5 years (or 3 years) plus then you can ask for discount on them as your paying cash!! (or trade price if you can) NEVER get paint protection, fabric protection or the rubbish the try and sell you, seat covers, floor mats and regular washing/polishing will do more than what they could even dream of offering...



Phwoarrrrrr  :eek:  Thats an ENORMOUS difference between dealers!!!  I'll definitely be calling around.

Unfortunately we cant pay cash, we have to trade in and are already behind the 8 ball with our current car (finance payout is more than car value) because we traded our previous car (Mazda3) in early - long story really but suffice to say that you live, you learn and you sometimes make very stupid and very expensive mistakes  :-[  Thus why I'm doing SO much research this time around!
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Mutley on June 08, 2010, 13:21:07
Also make sure you get a full tank of diesel and 12 months rego (not 6 months like some try to give you).
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: 2i30s on June 08, 2010, 13:24:27
6 months rego.!  tight a$$ dealers.
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: agentr31 on June 08, 2010, 13:25:30
dont call around, go and see them, it shows your serious and not just someone that wishes they could afford the car... just dont sign anything till your happy with pricing... get written quotes and play 2 or 3 dealers off against each other, they will try and beat the other dealers and go to the one that is the lowest bidder...

your not paying cash so you have much less leverage, but you have a trade in so it will make the final price a bit better on the hip pocket, definatly ask for something for free, even if its a full tank of diesel or just floor mats

touche on the 12 months rego... its stingy when they try and offer 6 months, my contract said 6 months i said to them like hell and got 12 months
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: 2i30s on June 08, 2010, 13:29:36
yeah even mats are worth $150.
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: agentr31 on June 08, 2010, 13:34:36
*cough* $87.55

^edit^ plus tax
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Pinky on June 08, 2010, 13:35:46
With two small kidlets in tow, going INTO a few dealerships is a lot more difficult than it sounds!  I've tried it before with *some* success, but mostly annoyed receptionists  :lol:

I will try to get to at least one other dealership, I suppose I've already been into one today so I only need 1 more up my sleeve to begin to stir up some competition.

Good point about getting extra's after finance...  I never thought about that *slaps forehead*



I just checked out carsguide.com.au for 2nd hand i30cw's - and they're virtually identical pricing to new!  Why is that?
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: 2i30s on June 08, 2010, 13:37:10
they seem to hold their value very well.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: 2i30s on June 08, 2010, 13:40:35
*cough* $87.55

^edit^ plus tax
that's a good price.  :razz: a year ago our free mats were supposedly worth $150 a set each car.  :eek:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: agentr31 on June 08, 2010, 13:41:51
Good point about getting extra's after finance...  I never thought about that *slaps forehead*

lol im not the smartest person i know... but seriously when it comes to money (no offence intended) im a tight arse... ill look for the cheapest option every time and i cant handle giving my hard earned money away... its better me investing it!!

point taken with the kids... nothing bad intened but if you can get a friend/family to look after them! will make it less stressful for you :)

your probably looking at new cars being sold... if not its some sort of scam im assuming
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Pinky on June 08, 2010, 13:56:39
Scam indeed!  It feels like everyone wants our money  :evil:

I'm feeling confident that the i30 SX CDRi (+ cruise) is going to be a good option for us :)  I'm SO excited about getting a manual again!  I miss driving a manual, I hate feeling out-of-control with an auto.  They're just too easy to be real.

I also tried 3 carseats in the backseat - and for anyone who is interested, 3 seats WILL fit across!  I had 2x BabyLove Preludes + 1 Infa Secure.  I also tried the BabyLove Prelude (0-18kg front/rear) in rear facing, and it fit comfortably without rubbing against the front seats dangerously.

Though I plan on using the ISOFIX rather than top-tether  8)  Bit naughty here in Australia, but meh - its safer.
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: agentr31 on June 08, 2010, 14:10:08
dang... i didnt think you could get 3 baby seats in a car soo small LOL kinda good to know if i ever have childeren and i have my i30 lol
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Lorian on June 08, 2010, 14:24:33
Its not really that small a car. It's a TARDIS.
You just think it's small because you don't have an i20 or i10.

My i30 is actually one wider than my old Vauxhall (holden) Vectra and has pretty much the same leg room.
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: agentr31 on June 08, 2010, 14:28:40
its the smallest car ive owned LOL

im used to medium cars, i had an 1987 skyline that was pretty fun, then the J31 maxima and a ford raider 4x4 (similar to a mazda bravo)
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Lakes on June 08, 2010, 21:11:27
Hi Pinky, just saw your post & questions.
i agree the diesel with Cruise Control is the best. i drove down Melbourne in my SX diesel manuel, i have aftermarket CC and it works fine i just set have it in 5th gear and she holds the speed up hills in 5th no worries. a mate of mine just got a new sx CW Diesel manuel for a great price too. i got SLX wheels & tyres from a guy that got an SLX & put 18" wheels on it took the SLX wheels off when it was brand new. i'm happy. i just got sheep skin seat covers. i think a Jack Russel is the right dog for the car :lol:
cheers ps i could not see the $4000 being worth it for me like was no cruise control would have been another $370 for that and air conditioning is airconditioning both sx & slx have it just slx adjusts itself i liked the $4000 in my pocket.
cheers
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: bumpkin on June 08, 2010, 21:53:41
Its not really that small a car. It's a TARDIS.
You just think it's small because you don't have an i20 or i10.

My i30 is actually one wider than my old Vauxhall (holden) Vectra and has pretty much the same leg room.

I agree, the i30 is wider and has more leg room than my Imprezas also :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Dazzler on June 08, 2010, 22:40:49
Wow pinky all your questions are pretty much covered.. :eek:

I guess it boils down to the lowest changeover figure in the end (for identical cars) plus the most freebies.. (good luck  :wink:)
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Pinky on June 09, 2010, 00:21:53
Wow pinky all your questions are pretty much covered.. :eek:

I guess it boils down to the lowest changeover figure in the end (for identical cars) plus the most freebies.. (good luck  :wink:)

Yep - I'm rapt - thank you so much everyone :D  Lifesavers!  And definitely dollar-savers!

I can see us going for the SX CRDi manual diesel + cruise control.  I think I want factory-fitted cruise control rather than after-market cause I'm a little concerned about the new car warranty being affected by someone fiddling with installation.

I might make a few phone calls today and just get a rough idea of what other retailers are selling it for.  Then once I have an idea I will head in to them tomorrow and begin the endless task of getting the best price.

Oh and hubby has to drive one.  Oh and learn to drive a manual as well.  Small issue though - right?   :lol:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: MRH130 on June 09, 2010, 00:32:06
Good idea about the aftermarket cruise - if they try to hack the software on the electronic throttle to get it to work that way they're bound to stuff something up and if they put in a kit that works on the pedal it's not going to work that well and will not look as good on the inside of the car. And none of that would be covered by warranty. It also becomes a good excuse to blame you if the car ever gets any electrical issues. Stick with the genuine setup.   :wink:

And for the $400 you also get fog lights. Pretty good value IMHO.

Congrats on your choice, I'm sure you'll love it.  :D
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Mutley on June 09, 2010, 00:40:48
And for the $400 you also get fog lights. Pretty good value IMHO.

Yep! Even IF the fog lights are useless haha :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Surferdude on June 09, 2010, 00:51:29
And for the $400 you also get fog lights. Pretty good value IMHO.

Yep! Even IF the fog lights are useless haha :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yep. But they look a whole lot better than a blank space.

And IMO, $400 is bloody good value for factory fit.
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: MRH130 on June 09, 2010, 01:01:54
They're not useless! they're just the thing you need when you're cruising and being "fully sik".  :cool: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Mutley on June 09, 2010, 01:50:57
They're not useless! they're just the thing you need when you're cruising and being "fully sik".  :cool: :cool: :cool:
That's right! That is until you get pulled over and fined for having fog lights on when there is no fog :rolleyes:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: MRH130 on June 09, 2010, 01:58:15
That's right! That is until you get pulled over and fined for having fog lights on when there is no fog :rolleyes:

"It was foggy just back down the road, officer"  :P
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Mutley on June 09, 2010, 02:00:53
haha I wonder if that'll ever work :lol: Oh wells, lets find out ay..
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Pinky on June 09, 2010, 05:28:20
I currently have 2 dealerships playing off for my sale.  One has been around this morning to do an appraisal and I did a contract up with quite a few special conditions.

The next dealer is coming around shortly, so I'll see what I can get out of him.

This is actually really fun!  I can see how people could get addicted to this - the power, oh the power!  :twisted: :lol:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Mutley on June 09, 2010, 06:30:24
Hahahaha nice work! Pinky full of power :eek: :lol: :eek:

What are your conditions?
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Lakes on June 09, 2010, 07:07:21
if you can get cuise control from factory,get it, when i got mine was not avadible but that was two years ago still no problem 61,600k the dealer i went to had the cc fitted so not my problem they had it done,
i set the cc & it holds the speed perfect. we have a factory fitted CC in a late model sonata .
 good luck
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Dazzler on June 09, 2010, 10:10:21
I currently have 2 dealerships playing off for my sale.  One has been around this morning to do an appraisal and I did a contract up with quite a few special conditions.

The next dealer is coming around shortly, so I'll see what I can get out of him.

This is actually really fun!  I can see how people could get addicted to this - the power, oh the power!  :twisted: :lol:

You "guys" are lucky on the mainland. We only have one Hyundai dealer in Tassie with 4 outlets.. If I want to haggle I'll have to deal with some Melbourne dealers (and there is 200+ kilometres of Sea between me and them..)  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: agentr31 on June 09, 2010, 10:26:03
meh tell him to learn it or not drive... im sure he will learn quick fast haha
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: 2i30s on June 09, 2010, 10:34:54
I currently have 2 dealerships playing off for my sale.  One has been around this morning to do an appraisal and I did a contract up with quite a few special conditions.

The next dealer is coming around shortly, so I'll see what I can get out of him.

This is actually really fun!  I can see how people could get addicted to this - the power, oh the power!  :twisted: :lol:

You "guys" are lucky on the mainland. We only have one Hyundai dealer in Tassie with 4 outlets.. If I want to haggle I'll have to deal with some Melbourne dealers (and there is 200+ kilometres of Sea between me and them..)  :rolleyes:
you had better be going flat out when you hit the end of the pier.  :lol:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Pinky on June 09, 2010, 13:48:04
 :lol: :lol: :lol:

My special conditions are all about my husband.  That he sees it, likes it, drives it, approves it AND that this is all at the dealership - these goings on at home do not count. 

I also want CC, Park assist, 12mths rego and a full tank of fuel  8)

Hopefully by the end of the weekend we're cruising in our new i30cw :D



Oh and I'm not going for the manual.  We dont have anyone to babysit the kidlets, and I dont particularly fancy him learning to drive with them in the car.  Plus, I dont want him killing my new cars gearbox either (cause we all know that the new 'family' car is just for me and no one else, right??  lol)
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Mutley on June 09, 2010, 22:39:31
haha good work, so what colour you going for?

White would be best  :P :P :D
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Surferdude on June 09, 2010, 23:25:46
:lol: :lol: :lol:

p - these goings on at home do not count. 


 :question: :question: :question: :eek: :cool:
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: MRH130 on June 09, 2010, 23:48:00
As you're playing the dealers off against each other, just make sure that you're getting a 2010 model - there are still a few 2009 SXs around at some of the larger dealers and they're dealing hard to get rid of them (without necessarily telling you about it...)  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: Mutley on June 10, 2010, 00:34:00
As you're playing the dealers off against each other, just make sure that you're getting a 2010 model - there are still a few 2009 SXs around at some of the larger dealers and they're dealing hard to get rid of them (without necessarily telling you about it...)  :rolleyes:
Yes I must emphasise this!
Title: Re: SX CDRi vs SLX CDRi
Post by: Pinky on June 11, 2010, 21:25:40
As you're playing the dealers off against each other, just make sure that you're getting a 2010 model - there are still a few 2009 SXs around at some of the larger dealers and they're dealing hard to get rid of them (without necessarily telling you about it...)  :rolleyes:

Thank you for this!  Turns out one of the dealers was trying to sell us an early '10 plate that was an '09 body, so it didn't have the airbags throughout.  Considering most of the time there are more people in the back seat than in the front (2 children with me driving) airbags in the rear are a must and are certainly worth the extra $1K for the more 'expensive' dealership.

Tomorrow we go in to make our final offer, sign contracts and *hopefully* drive off in our new car :D
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: agentr31 on June 11, 2010, 23:44:33
just make sure that you're getting a 2010 model - there are still a few 2009 SXs around at some of the larger dealers and they're dealing hard to get rid of them (without necessarily telling you about it...)  :rolleyes:

BINGO!!! they tried that with me... meh nothing wrong with an 09 car... as long as it has 6 airbags like you want!!!
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: Mutley on June 12, 2010, 04:11:17
just make sure that you're getting a 2010 model - there are still a few 2009 SXs around at some of the larger dealers and they're dealing hard to get rid of them (without necessarily telling you about it...)  :rolleyes:

BINGO!!! they tried that with me... meh nothing wrong with an 09 car... as long as it has 6 airbags like you want!!!

Not all had the airbags though...gotta be switched on to that!
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: agentr31 on June 12, 2010, 04:13:51
yer i know... only some had the optional air bags... meh if you can get one with the 6 bags cheap do it...
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: phillh on June 12, 2010, 09:18:40
HI Pinky,
 just to put my 2bobs worth in, as your hubby is in pusses (RAN) you are probably entitled to national fleet discount which is usually the best price you can get.
My SLX CRDI i30 manual hatch cost me just under $23000 last August on the road. (I'm a T.P.I. [totally & perminatly disabled] old sailor/airman so I didn't have to pay
G.S.T. or stamp duty) I LOVE driving a manual car again. I hope this info is correct and of help to you.
Regards Phill
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: MRH130 on June 14, 2010, 11:30:50
As you're playing the dealers off against each other, just make sure that you're getting a 2010 model - there are still a few 2009 SXs around at some of the larger dealers and they're dealing hard to get rid of them (without necessarily telling you about it...)  :rolleyes:

Thank you for this!  Turns out one of the dealers was trying to sell us an early '10 plate that was an '09 body, so it didn't have the airbags throughout.  Considering most of the time there are more people in the back seat than in the front (2 children with me driving) airbags in the rear are a must and are certainly worth the extra $1K for the more 'expensive' dealership.

Tomorrow we go in to make our final offer, sign contracts and *hopefully* drive off in our new car :D

That's ok - I've been around long enuf to know a lot of those stoopid tricks - and obviously others in the club have struck it too. If you want to be sure about your Year Model, it's in the VIN. The 10th digit for a 2009 model will be "9" and for a 2010 model will be "A", i.e. the VIN for a 2009 will end "9Uxxxxxx" and a 2010 will end "AUxxxxxx". If it isn't what they told you it is, don't accept it.  :wink:
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: agentr31 on June 15, 2010, 11:09:01
no the correct way is to look at the black plate/sticker affixed in the passanger door jam... it will say "built dec '09" or "built jan '10"
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: Dazzler on June 15, 2010, 11:11:59
no the correct way is to look at the black plate/sticker affixed in the passanger door jam... it will say "built '09" or "built '10"

I wouldn't be telling Michael (MRHi30) he is wrong being that he was a Hyundai Sales Manager in his previous life... :rolleyes: (and I would imagine both these dates will agree with each other anyway  :lol:)
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: agentr31 on June 15, 2010, 11:18:33
we will see...
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: agentr31 on June 15, 2010, 11:52:26
this is how to tell when your car was built...

open the passanger door, you should see 2 placards...

the black one being the one fitted at the factory when the vehicle was built, detailing, the paint code, engine type, interior trim type, and most importantly build date... this is located on the "B pillar" under the door latch as shown in *pic A* and closer up in *pic b*

the other white one is when the vehicle was compilanced in australia, this WILL ALWAYS be the later date as they have to ship the car to australia, it then has to clear all the inportation stuff ect ect then it is put on... it is pretty much an aknowledgement that the car meets the relevent ADR codes, how many people it can seat and the approval number and the VIN of the car.... this is located by the dash just under the check strap on the "A pillar" as in *pic C*

here you can clearly see, it has the vin KMHDB51TLAUxxxxxx

BUT the black plate clearly states "built dec 09"

*pic A* location of plate
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a372/sykomonkeeeee/a-1.jpg)

*pic B* blurry crap close up
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a372/sykomonkeeeee/b.jpg)

*pic C* compliance plate
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a372/sykomonkeeeee/c.jpg)
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: Dazzler on June 15, 2010, 12:12:00
Michael stands corrected... :mrgreen: (unless he can come up with a better explanation)

My 10th digit is 8 and my Build Date is Feb 2008 (03/08 on my compliance plate) but I already knew that  :wink:
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: agentr31 on June 15, 2010, 12:26:02
touche!!! might just be my car tho...

my poor car sat around from december to febuary probably out in the open at the port in the salty air waiting to come to australia!!
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: MRH130 on June 15, 2010, 22:37:33
Well r31 we're both right.

If you read my post carefully you'll see it says model year. The way to tell when it was built is to look at the sticker you've pointed out - although for resale purposes the date on the compliance plate is the relevant one.

The issue is that the new model YEAR comes out before the end of the previous year (usually August-ish). The model YEAR is the time that the changes are implemented (like the 6 airbags or pollution upgrades). Therefore there are quite a number of MY10s built in 2009 (including yours).

I imagine new MYs are rolled out early because they don't want to be retooling or changing factory procedures around Christmas/New Year.

My i30 Crystal was an MY 2009 (9Uxxxxxx) but was built in September 2008. My new Getz is an MY 2010 (AUxxxxxx) but was built in August 2009. Both of those cars were in the first load of cars off the boat of their respective model years.

As I said, MY is relatively meaningless for resale (unless there are substantial changes) because cars are valued normally on their year of manufacture, but from an ownership point of view (if you want all the latest updates and improvements) you're better off going for the newest MY you can get.

Having said that, it's not always a good thing to get the new MY - they deleted a few bits and bobs from the MY10 Getz so I would have been better off with an MY09.  :rolleyes:

In terms of an i30 though there's no detriment in getting the newer one.

BTW thanks for standing up for my credentials Dazz, but I was Service and Parts (Fixed Operations) Manager. Couldn't bring myself to sell cars!Well, maybe Hyundais.  :wink:
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: agentr31 on June 16, 2010, 07:05:52
cool... i learnt something new... never knew why they were calling my car a MY10... just told them straight it was an 09 model and then shut the sales bloke down when i showed it to him as he was crapping on about the car being a 2010 build, which means built this year and clearly it wasnt!!!

service and parts *bell goes off* DING DING DING DING!!!! winner!!
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: 2i30s on June 16, 2010, 09:29:27
both of my cars have the two lables on the A pillar.[both o9 models]

Don't you mean the "b" pillar ?  :wink:
remove my prior comments.  :-[  the black one is on the B pillar and the whitish one is on the A pillar.  :neutral:
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: MRH130 on June 16, 2010, 22:10:10
cool... i learnt something new... never knew why they were calling my car a MY10... just told them straight it was an 09 model and then shut the sales bloke down when i showed it to him as he was crapping on about the car being a 2010 build, which means built this year and clearly it wasnt!!!

service and parts *bell goes off* DING DING DING DING!!!! winner!!
Yeah most salespeople don't get the nuances of model year changeovers. They just get a memo saying the 2010 model is out. Also they quite often don't want to argue with the customer! But if he was trying to suggest that your car is a 2010 BUILD, that's pretty cheeky...
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: Lakes on June 16, 2010, 22:36:30
That's same as American's they start the new years model in August, probably close to start of finacial year.
Hyundai even give some models American names. now they are trying to go european with the i.
but good luck to them.
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: Surferdude on June 17, 2010, 08:04:03
That's same as American's they start the new years model in August, probably close to start of finacial year.
Hyundai even give some models American names. now they are trying to go european with the i.
but good luck to them.

The Fin Year starts in January in America. ............... :-[       
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: Lakes on June 17, 2010, 10:14:45
well, if there fin year starts in January, they must just be impatient waiting for the new models. :)
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: Dazzler on June 17, 2010, 10:57:49
cool... i learnt something new... never knew why they were calling my car a MY10... just told them straight it was an 09 model and then shut the sales bloke down when i showed it to him as he was crapping on about the car being a 2010 build, which means built this year and clearly it wasnt!!!

service and parts *bell goes off* DING DING DING DING!!!! winner!!
Yeah most salespeople don't get the nuances of model year changeovers. They just get a memo saying the 2010 model is out. Also they quite often don't want to argue with the customer! But if he was trying to suggest that your car is a 2010 BUILD, that's pretty cheeky...

In 35 years of buying cars i have seen many sales people try to underplay the build year.. unfortunately it becomes VERY important when you are trading back in... :rolleyes: :mad:
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: agentr31 on June 17, 2010, 11:08:49
Also they quite often don't want to argue with the customer! But if he was trying to suggest that your car is a 2010 BUILD, that's pretty cheeky...

he couldnt argue when i showed him it was 09...

In 35 years of buying cars i have seen many sales people try to underplay the build year.. unfortunately it becomes VERY important when you are trading back in... :rolleyes: :mad:

quite true! but meh... if you truly look after the car and sell it privately and the possible buyer can see its been looked after not neglected... then it wont make much difference
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: Dazzler on June 17, 2010, 11:12:48
Build year makes less difference each year longer that you keep it.. after 5 years it doesn't seem to matter much at all..
Title: Re: SX CRDi vs SLX CRDi
Post by: agentr31 on June 17, 2010, 11:23:02
pretty much!!!! i plan on having this car for more than 5 years... *holds breath* although some people like to get new cars much sooner...
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