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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => ELECTRICAL | ELECTRONIC | AUDIO => Topic started by: jason117 on June 27, 2010, 12:50:03
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Back in October '09 I purchased a tuning box via ebay http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200300682655 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200300682655&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com.au%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D200300682655%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1) and the results were very surprising. It only cost around $130aud so I wasnt expecting much, but I put the car on a chassis dynamometer last week and got the real story.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4737676519_ec9c40717f.jpg)
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Hi Jason,
I can't get that link to your video to work...Sounds like your car is pretty special now too.. :wink:
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Yeah sorry Daz, I cant get the video to link up correctly. Maybe this will work??
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14373548@N03/4738358830/?likes_hd=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14373548@N03/4738358830/?likes_hd=0)
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Thanks Jason got it working now...So the table shows some good gains.. and the driveability/response is much improved :question:
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Much improved Daz. The torque seems to come in around 1600rpm and is smoother in it's delivery. I took the box out of the car for a month or two and began to wonder if there was any decrease in performance without it but it seems my mind was playing tricks on me. Hooked it back up and the smile returned to my face. :razz:
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Hi
I have questions about this box?
1.does this box help fuel saving?
2.the setup of the box easy?
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Very easy to set up. Simply remove the plastic cover over the top of your engine ( 2 small bolts ) and the wiring is then in plain sight. Unclick the connectors (x2) and attatch the tuning box wiring in it's place. Refit the plastic cover and job done!
I havent seen any gain in fuel economy but I dont usually drive my car in this mode anyhow. For me it is about the performance it offers and I'm pleased with what I've got. Perhaps fuel economy will be improved but I cannot say for sure, sorry.
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Hi Jason, good to see someone post a dyno graph comparition, looks like a good gain.
does the car blow black smoke when you give iut the stick off the mark?
how many dyno runs did they do stock for a baseline before useing the tuning box?
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Can you adjust the box like others or are the settings set?
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Lakes, I only notice some smoke at night when I pull away from traffic lights and the car behind's headlamps show the smoke, but it is only minor and similar to the standard tune without the box.
We did 3 runs without the box to get an average and the same with the box fitted. The variation was only minor, eg 109.4hp 110.2hp and 109.9hp (from memory). The dyno's computer then calculated the corrected figure.
Sparki, this box is not adjustable unlike others on the market.
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Hey jason117 do you have another graph showing torque? Could we see that?
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The actual torque figure is misleading as per the photo so ignore the numbers. We didn't actually measure the amount of torque as a figure, rather just as an improvement over standard. We were running out of time and I had confirmation of the improvement so I was happy to let the Dyno man go home ( at 8.30pm ).He'd had a long day.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4763082883_1b00b954f6.jpg (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4763082883_1b00b954f6.jpg)
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No problem. Thanks
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Hi,
I have bought same box but i have a problem. Sometimes, my i30 suddenly stops with vibration. And it does not start at that time. Then i remove the box. After some time i re-setup the box. It works well for a time.. then stops working..
Does somebody face this kind of problem?
My car: 2010 i30 cw 1.6 diesel
I have another question. Without the box, if i disconnect the cable from the engine. engine does not start. Is it normal?
Thank you.
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'Without the box, if i disconnect the cable from the engine. engine does not start. Is it normal?'
I'd have to say this is normal as the the wiring sends the information to the ecu and if it's unplugged, theres no communication and thus no start.
Regarding the vibrations, I'm sorry but I dont have an answer for this one.
Jase
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Hi,
I found the problem of the CR-Box.. The problem occurs near Tv antenna transmitters. The TV antennas effects the CR-Box and it does not work there. ı am trying to find a solution to protect cr-box from magnetic field.
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Hi,
I found the problem of the CR-Box.. The problem occurs near Tv antenna transmitters. The TV antennas effects the CR-Box and it does not work there. ı am trying to find a solution to protect cr-box from magnetic field.
Until you find a solution can you still get to your destination without driving near the TV antennas?
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Yes, you are right. I only go to that place to try magnetic shields.
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Hi I have a 1,6 115hp diezel that has a manual 5 speed year 2008 with 40.000 on the clock.
Now I have been using a powerchip for 1 year and the results are amazing.
It has aproximately 135 hp and from day 1 was there a huge difference in torque and I kan feel the extra HORSES :)
But as an bonus the consumtion is amaizing I have driven around 900 km this weekend mostly on highways and the consumtion reads 3,4Ltr/100km with 3 persons aboard.
Normal in town, short trips it reads 4,5 to 5,5 Ltr/100km
In july I made a 2800km trip with an adria camper (Weight 1000kg) and it used 6,2Ltr/100Km
My car is not for sale :)
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Hi Eiki ,
what powerchip are you useing?
my own car is a 08 model 5 speed too 1.6 CRDi i'm not sure what it's hp rateing is but it goes ok.
what country are you in?
i'm in Australia
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Hi I am in Denmark.
I bought the chip on the internet from a firm in Germany.
http://www.racechip.de/racechip-chiptuning/Hyundai-I20-1-6-CRDi-3333-r.html
The price was around 150 euro with freight. I bought the standard chip not the race one.
It takes 5 minutes to install and from that moment you will simply love the engine :)
Driving on highway with only 100km.h. it goes up to or down to 3.1 ltr/100km
And there is huge increase in torque and power.
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Eiki, that sounds good
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Superb job Eiki, and i have one tiny thing to recommend you. If you have a good friend in hyundai service or if you are generally in good terms with them, try to take them for a ride with diagnostic laptop connected to car. Just too see is everything "in green". You drive it all gears (except last ofc) till red rpm and they tell you if everything checks out. :wink:
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I have the Race chip Pro, and I still haven't had any problems with it over 85,00kms and used over two i30s. This has been documented elsewhere on this forum. In fact I now forget I have it, but I have to be mindful come service time at Hyundai.
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I have the Race chip Pro, and I still haven't had any problems with it over 85,00kms and used over two i30s. This has been documented elsewhere on this forum. In fact I now forget I have it, but I have to be mindful come service time at Hyundai.
Do you get similar fuel economy savings after you installed? Apart from the power gains I'd see the extra fuel savings as a warranty to purchase - over time you'd basically pay it off.
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I have the Race chip Pro, and I still haven't had any problems with it over 85,00kms and used over two i30s. This has been documented elsewhere on this forum. In fact I now forget I have it, but I have to be mindful come service time at Hyundai.
and used over two i30s. :lol: :eek:
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Hi clackerz. I found the fuel economy slightly better. The best I got out of a tank was 1300km exactly. That was from a completely full tank.
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Hmm sounds tempting then. Curently I'm getting an avg 980kms - city driving
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Is that on a tank filled to the brim clackerz?
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Near enuff I 'spose. I fill it until it clicks, then wait a bit and continue filling, proll do this 2-3 times.....
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Hi clackerz. I found the fuel economy slightly better. The best I got out of a tank was 1300km exactly. That was from a completely full tank.
Icon that's great we have your input, you having traveled so far with two new i30 diesels is great! and the fact no problems.
i still have not got around to getting one, but would like to try one i'm just too busy right now.
i have got 1,300k from my tank once too i filled it right to the top, i drove out west then north west then along golden hwy to the hunter valley, stopped visited friends, then down the putty road to windsor and up windsor road to M2 then home filled up at same servo on way home 1,300 56L if i remember right. but i was driving carefuly and mostly 90kph
i just fitted some Michelin pilot sport 3, they feel great not sure if they will help economy but will see. great wet weather tyre i tested that yesturday.
cheers
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Hi Lakes,
Yeah my 1300km was done with about 75% highway driving between Canberra and Sydney averaging about 105km/h, and the rest done in Sydney including the M7 and M5 (I think) on several occasions at the prescribed speed limits (damn those speed cameras). I must say you did quite well considering you don't have a box. I haven't bothered trying to better that because I simply can't help myself. I just love the mid range power and response. It's just fun to give it a a squirt every now and then.
By the way I'll be in Sydney with my wife from Friday 29/10 to Sunday 31/10 in case you're interested in having a closer look at the box. Wedding anniversary obligations mate.
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hey how is the tuning box going? I'm thinking of getting one myself have you had any issues or problems with it?
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Sorry for the delay Rektanaku. Yes I'm still very happy with the box. Absolutely no problems or issues with it, and I'm not expecting any either. This is the best bang for dollar I have ever spent on this car.
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witch tuning box r u using the won off ebay or the pd chip u can get at Sydney diesel
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Apologies for resurrecting an old topic but it's piqued my interest given that I pick mine up today.
If my arithmetic (and Excel spreadsheet formulae) is correct, then the above figures, would indicate a gross increase from 85kw to 100kw if the quoted figures are at the driving wheels and subtract the difference from the advertising 85kw rating of the engine.
Also, the dyno chart refers to a figure in "Ibs" or "pounds". Is this supposed to be the torque figure? And if so, what unit of measurement is it? Certainly, the figures don't line up with "Ib/ft" or ft/Ib", depending on which school you went to.
My only concern is that of warranty and how easily it can be detected that such a device is or has been connected to the engine.
In any case, I'll see how it goes and after the run in period I'll revisit this. The Ebay seller still has them...
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This one sounds ok, and at the moment it's on Sale.... :D
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/290439272282?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/290439272282?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
My only concern is that of warranty and how easily it can be detected that such a device is or has been connected to the engine.
Most remove the chip before having their car serviced just in case it voids the warranty.
Apparently there's no indication left of it having ever been fitted as far as logs etc go. :undecided:
Oh, and I hope you're enjoying your new i30, Martin...... :goodjob:
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Hi Rusty.
Yep, just got back from Melbourne. Went great. In fact, I'm not even sure that for me, at least, getting one of these chip sets is warranted. Car performed quite well.
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Hi Rusty.
Yep, just got back from Melbourne. Went great. In fact, I'm not even sure that for me, at least, getting one of these chip sets is warranted. Car performed quite well.
I reckon the CRDi is a great drive without the chip. We had one for nearly two and a half years and the performance and economy was more than adequate.. I decided against a chip or tuning box because of the risk of warranty issues and more importantly INSURANCE issues..
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I decided against a chip or tuning box because of the risk of warranty issues and more importantly INSURANCE issues..
That's a good point.
If you have a major prang and the car's towed you may not be in a position to remove the chip kit.
I'd have to hazard a guess here but I reckon that the insurers would be aware of these modifications and their assessors may be trained to look for them.
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The company I used when I had the CRDi were cheap but veru conservative ...(Allianz) and thet even took exception to a sports exhaust which did nothing but improve the engine note a little :disapp:
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Hi
I´ve read that some of you have fitted a tuning box. Besides the ekstra power and torque you also gained better fuel consumption.
Can you post before / after consumption..?
My 85 kW crdi runs on average 5,5 L/100 km even when I drive very carefully. However I do have 3 colleages in the car every day driving to work, so that of course adds 250 kg to the weight of the car. But I would like to have less consumption, maybe a box could solve that..?
BR
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I just orderd a tuning box the same as Jason's...can't wait for it to arrive... :-)
cheers....
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I just orderd a tuning box the same as Jason's...can't wait for it to arrive... :-)
Post your feedback when it arrives! :)
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The tuning box arrived today,so I fitted it & took the car for a spin.
The car has a bit more pick up but seems to pull much better. :happydance:
Also a little bit more smoother below 1500 rpm.
Worth the small out lay I reckon...
cheers...
Brian. :D
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The tuning box arrived today,so I fitted it & took the car for a spin.
The car has a bit more pick up but seems to pull much better. :happydance:
Also a little bit more smoother below 1500 rpm.
Does it have an adjustment feature (dial, switch etc)? Would be interesting (if it does) to see what different settings give you.
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The tuning box arrived today,so I fitted it & took the car for a spin.
Easy enough to fit? What did it cost, delivered?
The car has a bit more pick up but seems to pull much better.
Also a little bit more smoother below 1500 rpm.
Now that I've got about 3,500km up on mine and gotten pretty well used to how it drives, a bit more grunt wouldn't go astray.
As I posted earlier my only concern is ease of installation and removal and warranty/insurance issues.
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You can't adjust it...just up unplug & plug in & away you go.
pretty easy really...
cheers... :)
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Did you notice more black smoke on the exhaust , than before ? And the engine heating , suppose to be quickly now , or no changes at all ?
BTW , please put a link with the product specification. Thx .
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I haven't noticed any increase in black smoke & the no changes to the engine heating.
Just be I installed the tuning box,I flushed the radiator & the temp seems to run a little lower.
For a link,check out the start of this topic by Jason117...he has put up a link.
cheers...
Brian. :)
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Hey jason117 do you have another graph showing torque? Could we see that?
Torque is not particularly material when you can see the whole power curve. For what it is worth, the torque peak occurs where a tangent drawn from 0,0 (power,speed) origin touches the power curve. In this case it clearly occurs at those little bumps. As far as I know 4th gear is 35.7kph/1000rpm so this appears to give
~ previous 65hp@2000rpm = 231Nm
~ new 68.5hp@1930rpm = 252Nm
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boxers,
how goes the economy since the box went in?
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Hey guys, i know this thread it quite old and no one has posted on it for a while
But i was wondering if any one had any advice for a Tuning Chip for a 2009 i30 CRDI,.... Ive read allot of the posts on here, which are a bit old so that is why I'm asking again.
Basically I'm just after a bit more power and torque down low through the first 3 gears, and hey if more economy comes as a result too, even better.
Currently averaging 1000kms per tank, mostly high way driving cause of work.
If any one could recommend a good box\chip for a decent price would be great.
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Sorry to bring an old thread but I saw some here drove with dieselbox by Race Chip.
If someone has remain their instructions to the box that I would like to know what the factory setting is on the box? Are 2 knobs in the box that can be adjusted.
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I had the RaceChip box fitted but was the one without adjustment.
You can allways write to them:
Technische Fragen:
technik@racechip.com
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Thanks but now I have found the perfect tread about it here on the forum :)