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THE GARAGE (SERVICE, MAINTENANCE & REPAIR) => DIESEL => Topic started by: i30CRDI on August 30, 2010, 09:39:20
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Hi,
The CRDI is coming up to 2 years old but has only done 15000km. Anyone know the expected cost (in Oz) of this service & if it is best to take to a dealer for Hyundai specific updates? or is it just an oil change and inspection.
Cheers
Mark
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Hi,
The CRDI is coming up to 2 years old but has only done 15000km. Anyone know the expected cost (in Oz) of this service & if it is best to take to a dealer for Hyundai specific updates? or is it just an oil change and inspection.
Cheers
Mark
My Crdi was a Feb 08 build and although I used Genuine Hyundai parts, I used a non Hyundai service centre for servicing right through until 68,000kms without any running issues..
A 15,000 service at a Hyundai dealer which is basically just an oil and filter change will set you back around A$250 to A$280 by my understanding perhaps around A$200 if you supply your own oil..
You could probably save about A$100 if you use a friendly independant service centre...
BUT .. there is a variety of opinions on here about the merits of using a dealer or otherwise...
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Hi,
The CRDI is coming up to 2 years old but has only done 15000km. Anyone know the expected cost (in Oz) of this service & if it is best to take to a dealer for Hyundai specific updates? or is it just an oil change and inspection.
Cheers
Mark
You should have already had the 15,000km service (12 months ago) and you should be now getting the 30,000km service.
This is to conform to the warranty requirements of annual services (unless I misunderstand). In addition, doing such a small annual mileage suggests you should have also done intermediate oil changes at 7,500km intervals. :eek:
To answer the question: yes go to a dealer which, by so doing, I guess will revalidate the warranty unless the dealer offers a complaint.
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Thanks for the reply's guys. I just rang McCarroll's Hyundai Artamon and they quoted me $665 for the 30,000 service! looks like i'll be looking for an independant. How can servicing cost so much on a basic car, my Wifes last car a Toyota Corolla was always around $150 for each service.
Also rang Parramatta Hyundai and they wanted $640.
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Had a couple of dealer quotes for the 30K service in Melbourne ranging from $400 -> $600. Pays to shop around.
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Any UK i30 owners used these guys? Good prices backed up by a solid sounding support for the following year... :neutral:
http://www.thenvs.com/hyundai-service.htm?gclid=CP7BscOzvqQCFZL92AodAmdczw
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Any UK i30 owners used these guys?
I've not. They should keep their website uptodate though...
NVS currently offer its Services to Berkshire, Buckinghamshire, Surrey, Oxfords and London.
With the on ongoing success of NVS we intend to provide Service cover to every postal address in the country by 2008
I just emailed them about their North West coverage.
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Would be interesting to get an actual quote to compare to dealer prices
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Thanks for the reply's guys. I just rang McCarroll's Hyundai Artamon and they quoted me $665 for the 30,000 service! looks like i'll be looking for an independant. How can servicing cost so much on a basic car, my Wifes last car a Toyota Corolla was always around $150 for each service.
Also rang Parramatta Hyundai and they wanted $640.
That's steep! the service parts are very pricy from genuine Hyundai, try Truscots
if it's a 30,000k service as PIP say's they will change the fuel filter this costs about $110 or there about's, oil filter is about $28 air filter is about $30 the ELF synthetic oil i use is about $100 as just over 5lt's required but there is cheaper oil, if you add this up then you know how much the dealer charges in labour for the aprentice it takes about 1.5 hours at the most including fuel filter change a good operator does it in 1 hour.
ps. Toyota have a deal were all services can be $150 for two years, then they go over to the normal normal service for the compa van is about $380
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Just had a 30,000 service on my diesel - got raped to the tune of $800. That's not a misprint!!! :eek: :eek:
The most expensive service I have ever had. :'(
FFS, the major (80,000KM) service on my large 4WD cost less... :evil:
I might as well own a BMW with service costs like this. Unbelievable.
Never again...
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Do you have a breakdown of the charges?
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Not on me - but still having trouble walking after being bent over and reamed like a b*tch... :mad:
The only extras besides the cost of the service itself and the relevant filters and oil were 1) wheel balance and 2) new wiper blades...
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Not on me - but still having trouble walking after being bent over and reamed like a b*tch... :mad:
The only extras besides the cost of the service itself and the relevant filters and oil were 1) wheel balance and 2) new wiper blades...
:eek: ouch,on both accounts. :mad:
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Not on me - but still having trouble walking after being bent over and reamed like a b*tch... :mad:
The only extras besides the cost of the service itself and the relevant filters and oil were 1) wheel balance and 2) new wiper blades...
Can you scan and post the account in this thread M8.. we will disect it and then (maybe) we can suggest you have a firm discussion with the Service Manager (supported by some choice emails fom selected members on here) :wink:
Lets name and shame the "Bas***ds... :mad:
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I've posted up the service board of my dealer,it has the service cost and km intervals on it for the auto and manual crdi and petrol model i30s.it goes up in intervals of 7,500kms but i cant find were I've posted it though. :mad:
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18 months old, but this is a guide. 30K must have some extra work involved I guess, don't have a book to hand.
Certainly. Diesel service pricing...
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07500 - $200 - $175
15000 - $245 - $240
22500 - $200 - $175
30000 - $495 - $450
37500 - $200 - $175
45000 - $245 - $230
52500 - $200 - $185
60000 - $495 - $450
67500 - $200 - $185
75000 - $245 - $230
82500 - $200 - $185
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I imagine these prices are the base prices, to which they add the cost of oil and filters (and other "miscellanous" BS charges) at their hugely marked up prices - just look at the typical dealer chargeout prices for the oil they use.
So the $495 easily jumps to $700 before you've even had a chance to pick yourself up off the floor.... these are ridiculous prices for what is essentially an econobox!
I'm guessing that I better start looking at the likes of Ultra Tune to start doing my services...
I will get a copy of the invoice up as soon as I can.
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Whatever is or isn't included, based on the price they clearly think something etra is happening on each 30K interval service. I don't have my service book to hand, but it should show on there.
I do hope they aren't charging for a timing belt change :rolleyes:
Someone on here is bound to have the answer...
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perhaps its so dear because they removed the timing CHAIN and converted it to a BELT lorian lol :lol: :lol:
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Someone did know the answer, I just needed to find it (from a very old post, edited):
For CRDi -
Engine oil/filter change at 15,000km intervals
Air filter at 45,000km intervals
Chain driven, no timing belt change required
Drive belts 120,000km
Fuel filter at 30,000km intervals
Coolant 1st @100,000km followed by 40,000km intervals
Brake/clucth fluid 30,000km intervals
Climate control filter 15,000km intervals
Manual trans fluid 100,000km
Auto 40,000km intervals
Still a lot (too much) money of course.
45,000Km seems a long interval for air filter to me. Some of these intervals may have changed recently of course.
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I just got quotes today for services from my dealer (Heidelberg, Victoria)
From memory
- the optional services were around $200 odd.
- the 15,000km was $240
- the 30,000km was $540 (expensive one, feel like I am back with Honda :lol:)..
These were for auto i30cw diesel.
My tip that I found out with Honda, always ring around for quotes, I find sometimes one dealer could be cheaper for 15,000 but then not the best at 30,000.. Strange but always best to spend 20 mins just calling around before booking in..
I also asked what oil they use and they said in the Diesels they always put in full synthetic Magnatec profesional B4..
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Thanks for the reply's guys. I just rang McCarroll's Hyundai Artamon and they quoted me $665 for the 30,000 service! looks like i'll be looking for an independant. How can servicing cost so much on a basic car, my Wifes last car a Toyota Corolla was always around $150 for each service.
Also rang Parramatta Hyundai and they wanted $640.
That's steep! the service parts are very pricy from genuine Hyundai, try Truscots
if it's a 30,000k service as PIP say's they will change the fuel filter this costs about $110 >snip
You can get a genuine fuel filter from "Hyspares" for $66.00, see http://www.hyspares.com.au/bluecart/products/fuel-filter-cartridge-491 (http://www.hyspares.com.au/bluecart/products/fuel-filter-cartridge-491)
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Also try the Kia Dealer as I have mentioned on here before. The Diesel motor is the same as the one in the Kia Soul and some of the parts are same part number but cheaper through Kia :mrgreen:
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I've posted up the service board of my dealer,it has the service cost and km intervals on it for the auto and manual crdi and petrol model i30s.it goes up in intervals of 7,500kms but i cant find were I've posted it though. :mad:
I've found the list i mentioned above in my computer,the dearest service for a crdi at my dealer is the 90.000kms service and its $590. that's a fairly major service too.
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I've just been ringing around for 2 year/30k service.
Quotes from $490 (Ultratune) to $590 (dealers). They all say they will replace the fuel filter but my service schedule book has it down for every 60k, not 30k.
BTW Ultratune will NOT use genuine parts but are adamant that this is not required even though Hy say so.
Cheapest dealer is $492 Makin and Luby Heidi. who will drop the price to $407 without oil.
Why would I want a fuel filter change anyway? What damage could I encounter even if it blocked? Of course I understand that if it completely blocked (which I'm assuming is very unlikely without prior warning) the engine would stop.
There is a procedure to flush it, that's what I would do, and then I'd adopt a wait and see for any symptom that it needed to be replaced. At $100 dollars a pop it seems extravagant to just replace it without reason. :eek:
Anyone know?
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Hi Pip,
I think Lakes changed his 1st one at 30K but I read it like you do that 60K for fuel filter and so that is what I did and got a Kia one identical part number for a good saving..I doubt you would have a problem by leaving it until then I certainly didn't notice any deteriation in performance.. :cool:
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Hi Pip,
I think Lakes changed his 1st one at 30K but I read it like you do that 60K for fuel filter and so that is what I did and got a Kia one identical part number for a good saving..I doubt you would have a problem by leaving it until then I certainly didn't notice any deteriation in performance.. :cool:
Thanks for that Daz, and good reminder about the Kia bits too.
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Cheapest dealer is $492 Makin and Luby Heidi. who will drop the price to $407 without oil.
They quoted me $540 :rolleyes:
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Manual...
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In UK fuel filter change at 3rd year service
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I've just been ringing around for 2 year/30k service.
Quotes from $490 (Ultratune) to $590 (dealers). They all say they will replace the fuel filter but my service schedule book has it down for every 60k, not 30k.
Well, had it done at Makin and Luby. Clean waiting lounge with a decent TV so I could watch the cricket. :D
Bottom line: $239. In addition to that I supplied oil. So about $310 all up.
They agreed to not replace the fuel filter so that saved another $100 or so. I was told that the service schedule for the FF has been amended for Oz but they seemed happy to leave it so long as it was noted as an exclusion on the docket.
It's a good deal I think and they were professional with their approach. :goodjob::goodjob:
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Sounds like fair deal Pip... :razz:
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I'm up for my 15,000km (had the car 6 months) and have been quoted $310 from the dealer. If I was to go to another log book servicer, would they be able to look at things like the clutch that seems to 'jut' into 1st if I am in idle for too long under warranty and such?
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I'm up for my 15,000km (had the car 6 months) and have been quoted $310 from the dealer. If I was to go to another log book servicer, would they be able to look at things like the clutch that seems to 'jut' into 1st if I am in idle for too long under warranty and such?
You will need to get the warranty stuff looked at by a Hyundai Dealer..
By all means get your service done elsewhere (by the book) at a good mechanic that you trust.. and then take it to the dealer for your free warranty adjustments/repairs. :idea:
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My diesel had its 30000km service last Saturday. After being quoted $600 from Hyundai I decided to have it done by an independent mechanic (Thanks, Lakes for allowing me to borrow your mechanic). He is great!
I supplied a genuine Hyundai oil filter, Mobil 1 0W-40 oil and an aftermarket (Sakura) diesel fuel filter.
The total cost was less than a third of what my local Hyundai workshop is charging.
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Sounds like a great deal Paolo :goodjob:
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My diesel had its 30000km service last Saturday. After being quoted $600 from Hyundai I decided to have it done by an independent mechanic (Thanks, Lakes for allowing me to borrow your mechanic). He is great!
I supplied a genuine Hyundai oil filter, Mobil 1 0W-40 oil and an aftermarket (Sakura) diesel fuel filter.
The total cost was less than a third of what my local Hyundai is charging.
If it's not a rude question, how much did the fuel filter set you back?
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Hi Rustynutz,
It was $19.95. A Japanese brand made in Malaysia. I was told by the guy at Bullseye that they are original equipment in Toyotas.
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Hi Rustynutz,
It was $19.95. A Japanese brand made in Malaysia. I was told by the guy at Bullseye that they are original equipment in Toyotas.
Wow! what a bargain. I was quoted $120 for a genuine Hyundai filter....Will be interesting to see how it goes.... :goodjob:
Cheers :D
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I will keep you informed in this thread.
Cheers
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Thanks mate :goodjob:
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I supplied a genuine Hyundai oil filter, Mobil 1 0W-40 oil .
Hyundai recommend that 0W-40 oil is NOT suitable except in countries with very low temperatures and never for high speed or heavy load driving....it's too thin.
I have a Hyundai approved service programme - 5 services (one a year in the U.K.) - for £1008 (54 monthly payments of £18.66) that's an average of £200 each. Can be cancelled at anytime or transferred to a new owner.
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I have a Hyundai approved service programme - 5 services (one a year in the U.K.) - for £1008 (54 monthly payments of £18.66) that's an average of £200 each. Can be cancelled at anytime or transferred to a new owner.
Does it include 3 MOT's?
If not then on par with paying as you go.
I've had 4 services circa £770.00 and 5th next year is a splash and dash service circa estimate for next year @ £150.00 = £920.00.
Plus 3 MOT's at discount rate. Up to now had 2 @ £27.00 and expect next years to be £27.00 or if it goes up no more than full rate say £55.00.
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Hyundai recommend that 0W-40 oil is NOT suitable except in countries with very low temperatures and never for high speed or heavy load driving....it's too thin.
Is this a reference to Mobil 1 0w40 only?
Do you have a link or other supporting information for this?
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Hyundai recommend that 0W-40 oil is NOT suitable except in countries with very low temperatures and never for high speed or heavy load driving....it's too thin.
We don't have particularly low temperatures in Australia yet 0W40 oil seems to have the all clear from Hyundai Australia.
I use Castrol Edge 0W40 myself...... :cool:
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/rustynutz69/MandatoryFluidsForWarantyRepairs.jpg)
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We don't have particularly low temperatures in Australia yet 0W40 oil seems to have the all clear from Hyundai Australia.
I use Castrol Edge 0W40 myself...... :cool:
Going by those lists only Penrite 0W-40 oil to C3 requirement for the diesel with particulate filter.
Cars without particulate filters have different oils listed.
Perhaps we are not referring to the same engines? My car is Czech built 1600 85Kw diesel with DPF.
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I have a Hyundai approved service programme - 5 services (one a year in the U.K.) - for £1008 (54 monthly payments of £18.66) that's an average of £200 each. Can be cancelled at anytime or transferred to a new owner.
Does it include 3 MOT's?
If not then on par with paying as you go.
I've had 4 services circa £770.00 and 5th next year is a splash and dash service circa estimate for next year @ £150.00 = £920.00.
Plus 3 MOT's at discount rate. Up to now had 2 @ £27.00 and expect next years to be £27.00 or if it goes up no more than full rate say £55.00.
The problem was when buying the car that I couldn't get the prices quickly for the next four years servicing which, anyway, would have increased in that time, so I took a guess that £1000 would be about right based on my wife's Getz and my previous Terracans. Your costs are at the prices which were current over the past three years so I don't think I will be out of pocket. As I am paying monthly about the correct amount will have accrued by each service date. Been buying new cars every two/three years since the 70's and used to do all my own servicing after the first year but since buying Hyundais with the 5 year warranty I have had to relent and pay the cost much as it grieves me. After 8 years and three Hyundais I still haven't made a warranty claim.
MoTs are not included but I won't need one until the end of year three.
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We don't have particularly low temperatures in Australia yet 0W40 oil seems to have the all clear from Hyundai Australia.
I use Castrol Edge 0W40 myself...... :cool:
Going by those lists only Penrite 0W-40 oil to C3 requirement for the diesel with particulate filter.
Cars without particulate filters have different oils listed.
Perhaps we are not referring to the same engines? My car is Czech built 1600 85Kw diesel with DPF.
That's not a definitive list of suitable oils for the i30 CRDi here in Australia.
Because our CRDi's don't have a particulate filter fitted our oils only need to meet the ACEA B4 standard.
And although that list shows Castrol Edge 0W 40 in the ACEA B4 column, I can assure you it also meets ACEA C3, it also says it is suitable for vehicles with DPF's.... :goodjob:
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G'day all, well the little oiler has had its first service at the local Repco Authorised Service Centre, A local shop that has been there for years. The cost with me supplying Castrol Edge 0w40 was $162.00 including a new set of wiper blades.. Not too bad i thought.. Cheers Gaz.
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Sounds pretty reasonable, Gaz.... :goodjob:
Were your wipers stuffed or did they just fit them because they could? The reason I ask is that that seems to be fairly common practice with some garages etc. :undecided:
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Sounds pretty reasonable, Gaz.... :goodjob:
Were your wipers stuffed or did they just fit them because they could? The reason I ask is that that seems to be fairly common practice with some garages etc. :undecided:
That's a good point Rusty. Speaking as someone who gets involved in that practice I can tell you that the better garages tend to do it because most cars have really ineffective wiper blades which as you would be aware are extremely dangerous in the wet.
So, you see a car maybe once every 6 to 12 months to do a service and for the small amount they cost it's good preventative maintenance to replace them before they become a problem.
Unless they're a regular customer we do tend to mention then as we're taking delivery of the car though.
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While I see your point, Trev.....I reckon they should at least have the courtesy of asking first.
I helped a friend some years back by fitting new wipers on her Commodore yet the following week she had her car serviced and yep, they replaced the wipers.
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While I see your point, Trev.....I reckon they should at least have the courtesy of asking first.
I helped a friend some years back by fitting new wipers on her Commodore yet the following week she had her car serviced and yep, they replaced the wipers.
That (Your example above) would pi$$ me off big time Rusty ... :mad:
I agree with you on this one...I tell them not to do anything that is not in the scheduled service without asking me first... :undecided:
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While I see your point, Trev.....I reckon they should at least have the courtesy of asking first.
I helped a friend some years back by fitting new wipers on her Commodore yet the following week she had her car serviced and yep, they replaced the wipers.
That (Your example above) would pi$$ me off big time Rusty ... :mad:
I agree with you on this one...I tell them not to do anything that is not in the scheduled service without asking me first... :undecided:
Agreed. i had that happen to me with the Liberty I had in Sydney. And the replacement ones squeaked. :evil:
But I DID say we alk about it if they aren't regulars. The regulars are happy for us to do what's necessary and just let them know if there's something out of th eordinary.
But Geez at the end of the day, we're talking about 12 bucks.
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I'm glad some places do the right thing, Trev but 12 bucks is 12 bucks and If these places do it to every customer it soon mounts up.....
And, at the end of the day it's fraud.... :mad:
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I'm glad some places do the right thing, Trev but 12 bucks is 12 bucks and If these places do it to every customer it soon mounts up.....
And, at the end of the day it's fraud.... :mad:
It's only fraud if they insist on being paid for it Rusty. It's easy to say when the car is picked up something along the lines of, We replaced your wiper blades, too. They were smearing the screen. They add $12 to the bill. Is that OK?"
And I would suggest your use of the word "fraud' in such a case is perhaps not quite legally correct.
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Trev,
I would not be too stressed if they only charged be $12 including labour to switch them particularly if I noticed an improvement in how they operated :goodjob:
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Trev,
I would not be too stressed if they only charged be $12 including labour to switch them particularly if I noticed an improvement in how they operated :goodjob:
True Dazz. We see it as a service rather than an add-on.
But these days we have to be careful. Mazdas, Subaru in particular don't react too well to the cheapie replacements. So with those the cost can be much greater and obviously something you talk to the customer about first.
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It's only fraud if they insist on being paid for it Rusty. It's easy to say when the car is picked up something along the lines of, We replaced your wiper blades, too. They were smearing the screen. They add $12 to the bill. Is that OK?"
And I would suggest your use of the word "fraud' in such a case is perhaps not quite legally correct.
If it's been added to the bill, I would say they are wanting you to pay it....
It would be the same if they replaced any other part that wasn't faulty and then attempted to slug you for it.....
So, if it's not fraud, what would you call it...deception? theft? scam? creative accounting?
fraud (frɔːd)
— n
1. deliberate deception, trickery, or cheating intended to gain an advantage
2. an act or instance of such deception
3. something false or spurious: his explanation was a fraud
4. informal a person who acts in a false or deceitful way
[C14: from Old French fraude , from Latin fraus deception]
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It's only fraud if they insist on being paid for it Rusty. It's easy to say when the car is picked up something along the lines of, We replaced your wiper blades, too. They were smearing the screen. They add $12 to the bill. Is that OK?"
And I would suggest your use of the word "fraud' in such a case is perhaps not quite legally correct.
If it's been added to the bill, I would say they are wanting you to pay it....
It would be the same if they replaced any other part that wasn't faulty and then attempted to slug you for it.....
So, if it's not fraud, what would you call it...deception? theft? scam? creative accounting?
fraud (frɔːd)
— n
1. deliberate deception, trickery, or cheating intended to gain an advantage
2. an act or instance of such deception
3. something false or spurious: his explanation was a fraud
4. informal a person who acts in a false or deceitful way
[C14: from Old French fraude , from Latin fraus deception]
Meh.
Whatever.
Call it what YOU like.
I've never been accused of fraud. Never had an issue with a customer which couldn't be resolved with discussion.
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Hi all
My first time.
I am the happy owner of a 2008 i30 CRDI automatic.
But I am not happy with the charges, for there services. My 2 year service ( 30.000) km. My speedo reading, only 15000 km, the charge was $ 400.00, this does not include oil change and Filter. I change my own oil and Filter, KIA filter $ 19.00.
The charge for the fuel filter was $124.00. I have been told it takes about 2 hours to replace the fuel filter. well next time I change my own filter.
I have a friend who works in Korea. To keep it short, he send me 3 filters. $ 30.00 each. All it cost me $ 90.00 plus $ 30.00 postage. In other words, $ 40.00 for one filter. The filter is the same part number=319224H001 in Korea.
This is all for now. Regards from Kayak
PS: I am a retired mechanic. I have been a GMH men for 30 years, but I do like Hyundai, they have come a long way.
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Welcome kayak. Good to hear from you.
And even better to have another qualified mechanic on here. I think there's a couple but most of us are probably backyarders.
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Hi Kayak,
Welcome aboard!
I have been told it takes about 2 hours to replace the fuel filter.
I watched my mechanic change the diesel fuel filter in my i30 and from start to finish it took him around 20 minutes to do. He has done Lakes' i30 too but doesn't work on Hyundais all the time. For someone who does them each day it would take even less time than this.
That is a good deal on the filters directly from Korea...
All the best,
Paolo
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Welcome Kayak .. we might call on your expertise from time to time if that is ok :goodjob: :winker:
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G'day Dazzler.
It would be a pleasure, to help any one if possible.