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GOT PROBLEMS OR ISSUES? => DIESEL => Topic started by: Rae on May 31, 2024, 02:01:50

Title: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: Rae on May 31, 2024, 02:01:50
My oil  filter removal is blocked by some electrical connections...and I am worried about breaking something to  get it loose ..... Any tips.?
Also the filter needs a 27 mm socket. I was surprised at the odd number.....how many people have a 27 mm socket laying around? :undecided:
see photo

(https://i.ibb.co/3kq2Cmn/oil-filter-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LvWmZd3)


(https://i.ibb.co/xq4tcCm/oil-filter-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tpdTNmZ)
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: The Gonz on May 31, 2024, 12:16:25
My 2009 CRDi doesn't seem to have as much obstruction as yours.

I also didn't have a 27mm socket so I made my own:

 :link: STL file 19mm to 27mm Socket Adapter 🔧 ・3D printing template to download・Cults (https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/19mm-to-27mm-socket-adapter)
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: TerryT on June 01, 2024, 02:32:58
@Rae.  I found this on YouTube for Hyundai i30 CRDi 1.6 litre 2009 model.  Does it help or just confuse you more?  :neutral:

(https://i.ibb.co/qkWG7d4/Oil-filter-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wMwHBRb)

(https://i.ibb.co/7bC5MCg/Oil-filter-02.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: TerryT on June 01, 2024, 04:38:36
@ Rae.  Out of curiosity I quickly browsed a few YouTube videos and in most of them the oil filter was easier to access than yours (they were more like what The Gonz said in his post above).   

Example:
(https://i.ibb.co/tZfwcHt/oill-filter.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yhTm5N1)

You mentioned: Also the filter needs a 27 mm socket. I was surprised at the odd number.....how many people have a 27 mm socket laying around?   Just us tool nuts!! :lol:

(https://i.ibb.co/VJhK3dL/27mm-sockets.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XjdwV9W)    :D   

The above two 27mm sockets are from my roller toolbox, I think I have the same again somewhere in my track toolboxes (now well stored away and sadly no longer used).

If you intend to buy a 27mm socket but are still worried about clearing that plug connector, you maybe could use a 1/2" sq.dr. wobble extension which might offset the angle of attack on the filter enough to avoid the plug connector. 

(https://i.ibb.co/9GkVK5j/Wobble-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rvRc8rJ)

(https://i.ibb.co/yRr1VRk/Wobble-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mB3wSBy)

I've posted above a short 50mm L wobble extension and it would need a normal extension bar added to it to reach the ratchet.  Or,  you could just use one long wobble extension up to the ratchet.
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: BrendanP on June 02, 2024, 23:01:38
These must be korean-built cars for the Aussie market, my czech-built diesel has nothing in the way to impede access to the oil filter. I have a Hilka 1/2" socket set and that includes a 27mm socket. Take care when screwing the filter cap back on so that you don't get the threads crossed, and lubricate the big o-ring. You have to push the cover down quite firmly to push the filter cartridge into the housing, and there's more resistance as the o-ring gets squeezed into place, but after that, it doesn't take much effort to screw the cap on until it is fully seated. Max 35Nm torque.
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: Greenroome on June 14, 2024, 15:07:08
Mine is the same.
Just push the clip down, and it pops off easily. 👍


(https://i.ibb.co/cbyZvbJ/Screenshot-20240614-220507.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RhgsSh2)
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: TerryT on June 14, 2024, 15:41:12
Mine is the same.
Just push the clip down, and it pops off easily. 👍

(https://i.ibb.co/cbyZvbJ/Screenshot-20240614-220507.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RhgsSh2)

@Greenroome.  Your photo of the clip is much clearer than the guide I posted above and it should help Rae safely disconnect the part.  Thank you.
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: TerryT on June 24, 2024, 02:21:20
My oil filter removal is blocked by some electrical connections...and I am worried about breaking something to get it loose ..... Any tips.?


So, did Greenroome's post help you sort your problem?
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: Rae on July 02, 2024, 04:34:23
thank you all for your input. It was done with your help. And not that difficult.
As I just happened to be going thru some old tool box and found an Imperial socket which was almost identical to a 27mm...and did the job.
Filter was 28$ AUD which I thought a bit steep...but that's life.

Now I have another problem...there is some fuel under pressure and leaking. I think it is fuel anyway, although it is black....with soot?
It is being found in the well around  one injector...and each time I soak it up, it returns after a 3 km trek. I have attached two pics showing by placing a drilll bit where the oil is gathering.
What I am wondering...is it a bad oring or seal somewhere or something more sinister.?

(https://i.ibb.co/C6JhzXN/injector-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3vfB78G)

(https://i.ibb.co/JvwTKng/injector-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Wk4X6nj)
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: TerryT on July 02, 2024, 04:52:23
@Rae.  Glad to hear problem was sorted.  Re your latest problem, unfortunately I know little about diesel engines and nothing about (possible) black fuel with soot so I'll leave it to our more knowledgeable members.

BTW, please excuse my tired ol' eyes but I couldn't see the drill bit in your photo, so where is it hiding in plain sight?  :)
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: Rae on July 02, 2024, 05:08:31
yes it is a hex bit for hex head screws.
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: TerryT on July 02, 2024, 07:46:19
yes it is a hex bit for hex head screws.

So, not a drill bit, but a hex bit (for hex head screws).  Sorry, and at the risk of looking foolish, I still cannot see it. Can you repost your photo circling the hex bit that shows where the oil (or petrol?) is gathering? Thanks.


Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: Bob.W on July 04, 2024, 07:35:17
yes it is a hex bit for hex head screws.

So, not a drill bit, but a hex bit (for hex head screws).  Sorry, and at the risk of looking foolish, I still cannot see it. Can you repost your photo circling the hex bit that shows where the oil (or petrol?) is gathering? Thanks.




You're not alone - took me an extra suiz to locate - dead centre-ish in both pix , the rusty/orange looking thing is a hex head bit for a driver, standing upright.
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: TerryT on July 04, 2024, 10:52:58
Thanks Bob, makes sense. I won't bore you with the why-for but I was overthinking it and looking for something else a bit more pointer-ish, and hurriedly did not recognise Brah's bit (aka, a nut driver bit?) as it!

@brah. Mate, I hope your other tools are in better shape.   :wink:  :D
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: brah on July 04, 2024, 11:00:20
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@brah. Mate, I hope your other tools are in better shape.   :wink:  :D

Not sure you meant to tag me @TerryT , haven’t commented on this thread  :lol:
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: TerryT on July 04, 2024, 12:58:59
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@brah. Mate, I hope your other tools are in better shape.   :wink:  :D

Not sure you meant to tag me @TerryT , haven’t commented on this thread  :lol:

Oops, sorry, my bad. Having a bad hair day. :-[   I meant @Rae.
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: Rae on July 04, 2024, 13:43:46
Glad we can all get a laugh out of this. That hex bit has seen some work, no doubt.
As for the problem, I' m leaning towards a leaking injector seal. There does not appear to be moisture on the fuel line where it enters injector, and the moisture i see is not so dirty until it builds up ( sooty?).
So my idea is to take to a diesel mechanic and have a short yarn. Expecting he will want to remove injector and replace seals ( oring, square ring, copper washer) and clean it up.
Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: Rae on July 08, 2024, 12:10:20
I know this will be difficult to believe or understand.
After buying the needed copper washer and 2 rings ( oring and square ring)..i took car to diesel engineer to assist in replacing.
He ascertained it was NOT fuel i was seeing around the injector, but oil.
I wondered how oil could be there.
We undid the injector clamp. We removed the bolt. We spied with a flashlight down the hole.
There was a dark spot on the side of the bolt ' tube' and oil in the ' well'. !!!
We removed a different bolt. But no dark spot and no oil in bolt hole.

Go figure?
And we figured or rather he figured the aluminium cylinder head had a weak spot and had broken away.

Title: Re: getting oil filter out of 2009 diesel
Post by: TerryT on July 09, 2024, 01:18:07
@Rae.  Thanks for the feedback. 
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