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Title: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: umbro on October 04, 2010, 12:28:58
Can anyone tell me what the thing in the red circle is for?initially i thought it's some kind of vent hole but there's no air coming from there, and now i`m starting to think it may be a hole for bluetooth mic.Any ideas or it`s just a design thing with no purpose :).
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/6753/imag0078j.jpg
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: Mutley on October 04, 2010, 12:30:09
I'm guessing a sensor for the temp control.
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: Dazzler on October 04, 2010, 12:32:22
Sorry Umbro (no idea) looks a bit low for a mic.. :cool:
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: Shambles on October 04, 2010, 12:59:44
We discussed this before but couldn't reach a conclusion.

I'll see if I can find the thread...



Here

https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,787.0.html
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: Dazzler on October 04, 2010, 13:02:04
I think I worked it out :idea: It's a bunch of friggin' holes in the dash ..

On that note I better go to bed.. think i'm getting delusional  :lol:
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: Mutley on October 04, 2010, 13:15:17
I seriously believe it's for the temp control. My prelude has exactly the same thing.
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: agentr31 on October 04, 2010, 13:20:00
in a nissan its for climate control... a duct runs there and thats how it tells what temp the cabin is at... so im going to assume its the same thing here... UNELSS the headlight buzzer is behind it....

here is the section from my maxima's service manual that describes what that vent is for...


COMPONENT DESCRIPTION
In-Vehicle Sensor
The in-vehicle sensor is located on instrument driver lower panel. It
converts variations in temperature of compartment air drawn from
the aspirator into a resistance value. It is then input into the unified
meter and A/C amp.

Aspirator
The aspirator is located on driver′s side of heater & cooling unit. It
produces vacuum pressure due to air discharged from the heater &
cooling unit, continuously taking compartment air in the aspirator

im pretty sure we just solved it... so to sum it all up for those not wanting to read that... it is a vent that lets air in so the climate conrtol can tell if the temperature is right... it also works with a sensor in the front grille (the one that displays on the radio) and the sunload sensor on the dash, to determin how hard the system has to work/not work!

*Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.

LOL yes i know... but i just spent 5 min justifying my reply...
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: carib on October 04, 2010, 18:33:21
Hi.

I'm not sure, and I can't test now, but I think that is the beeper. Of "belts off", for example.

Regards,

carib
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: eye30 on October 04, 2010, 20:13:12
When the Korean workman was checking his tool box one day he found a little hole making gadget which makes nice little holes. 

The couldn't work out where the hole should go as it wasn't on the blue print so he just punched a hole just out of sight on side of the dash.

He knew that owners would be looking for a reason for the hole but he knew there was no reason for it and it would become a talking point.

 :lol: :rolleyes:

 
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: agentr31 on October 05, 2010, 07:19:03
put your ear to it when its beeping!!!
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: 2i30s on October 05, 2010, 09:29:27
hey Ian,i think the climate control idea has been knocked on the head because that i30 is the same on the dash as our sx base model in oz. no climate control on our cars mate.  :wink: it could be a bad attempt at making the hard to hear turn signals easier to hear.  :idea:
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: agentr31 on October 05, 2010, 09:43:17
they usually dont change plastics like those trims too much... its not like anyone really notices that...

they only way you will know for sure is to read the service manual... ill see if i can find one
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: 2i30s on October 05, 2010, 09:46:49
i think that panel is the same on all models.  :idea:
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: Mutley on October 05, 2010, 09:47:06
hey Ian,i think the climate control idea has been knocked on the head because that i30 is the same on the dash as our sx base model in oz. no climate control on our cars mate.  :wink: it could be a bad attempt at making the hard to hear turn signals easier to hear.  :idea:
Like agent said, it will be the same dash on all models regardless of features.
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: agentr31 on October 05, 2010, 10:18:05
stolen from www.hmaservice.com

anyways after a massive stuff around, i found what it is

sign in, go to DTC tab, then "air conditioner" click on "B1233 in-car temperature sensor short (low)"

Componet Location

(obviously shows where the holes are that we are talking about)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/i30/FD13ac39B123311.jpg)


General Description

Incar sensor is located at left side of DATC control panel. It contains a thermistor which measures the temperature of the inside. The signal,decided by the resistance value which changes in accordance with perceived inside temperature, is delivered to heater control unit. According to this signal, the control unit regulates incar temperature to intended value.
DTC Description

Air conditioner Control Module sets DTC B1233 if Incar temperature sensor has been detected below 0.1V for 0.3 seconds.
DTC Detecting Condition

Item
 Detecting Condition
 Detecting Condition
 
DTC Strategy
 •  Voltage check
 •  Short circuit in harness
•  Faulty incar temp.sensor
•  Faulty A/C Control Unit
 
Enable Conditions
 •  IG KEY ON
 
Threshold value
 •  Incar temperature sensor has been detected 0.1V for 0.3 seconds
 
Failsafe
 •  Control with the value of 25°C(77°F)
 

Specification

※ Resistance value of incar temp sensor as a function of temperature.
Temperature(°C/°F)
 Resistance(kΩ)
 Temperature(°C/°F)
 Resistance(kΩ)
 
-20/ -4
 285.6± 1 %
 20/68
 37.4± 1 %
 
-10/14
 164.6± 1 %
 30/86
 24.1± 1 %
 
0/32
 97.7± 1 %
 40/104
 15.9± 1 %
 
10/50
 59.67± 1 %
 50/122
 10.8± 1 %
 

Diagnostic Circuit Diagram

(shows a circut diagram LOLZ)
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: Dazzler on October 05, 2010, 10:20:01
Too much information  :rolleyes: :lol:
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: agentr31 on October 05, 2010, 10:23:02
LOL yer my bad... but now we know exactly what its for, and how it work!!!

a little research, time and persistance gets the job done!
Title: Re: What is this for??
Post by: Dazzler on October 05, 2010, 10:36:38
LOL yer my bad... but now we know exactly what its for, and how it work!!!

a little research, time and persistance gets the job done!

Sorry m8 - was good work (much appreciated)

It was just the Hieroglyphics I objected to  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: agentr31 on October 05, 2010, 11:10:55
there were heiroglyphics in there?

*agent starts talking in egyptian*
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: 2i30s on October 05, 2010, 11:41:58
10/10.  :wink:
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: agentr31 on October 05, 2010, 11:53:17
thanks  for fixing the pic up!!!

10/10.  :wink:

*blushes*
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: Shambles on October 05, 2010, 11:56:40
thanks  for fixing the pic up!!!

Took a copy and rehosted, as HMA have anti "hotlink" scripts ;)
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: snowcherry on October 05, 2010, 12:30:59
i've never seen that in my car. guess i have to go looking for it now  :rolleyes:

so in english it is climate control sensor?
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: agentr31 on October 05, 2010, 12:32:18
so in english it is climate control sensor?

yes!!!
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: Mutley on October 05, 2010, 13:19:56
knew it all along :D :P
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: snowcherry on October 06, 2010, 17:32:34
well gosh i have one of these fangled slots in the car!
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: agentr31 on October 07, 2010, 11:04:44
hahaha unlike my car... in yours it serves a purpose!
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: snowcherry on October 08, 2010, 01:47:27
^shame i rarely use the climate control  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: agentr31 on October 08, 2010, 05:33:40
WTF... how can you rarely use the A/C... mine literally never gets turned off! the only thing that differs is how much i put the heater on hahaha
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: Dazzler on October 08, 2010, 10:00:29
I'm guessing Snowcherry.. uses the air manually... :cool:
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: agentr31 on October 08, 2010, 10:13:43
reminds me of that ad...

 where the father asks the kids if they want the "air on half or full" kids go "full"

*dad winds down windows*

*kids still look hot and bothered*
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: snowcherry on October 09, 2010, 04:36:25
yeah i use the A/C (crikey it's queensland mate! :lol:) i just forget to use the CC

just for you (aww) i made a special effort to turn the CC on yesterday  :wink:
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: agentr31 on October 09, 2010, 07:55:49
hahahaha i thought it would be like my maxima... climate control is on regardless of where the settings are...(unless you turn the fan off then it shuts down) you can adjust the heat with the air on, or off but when you do it with the air off it feels humid!

do the i30's have dual zone air con? where the front passanger can be different to the driver (back vents in the max go off the driver from what i can tell)
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: Dazzler on October 09, 2010, 10:41:21
do the i30's have dual zone air con? where the front passanger can be different to the driver (back vents in the max go off the driver from what i can tell)

No only single zone in i30 .. Dual zone in my Hybrid though  :wink: :D
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: snowcherry on October 09, 2010, 12:47:32
do the i30's have dual zone air con? where the front passanger can be different to the driver (back vents in the max go off the driver from what i can tell)

No only single zone in i30 .. Dual zone in my Hybrid though  :wink: :D

oh here we go, thinks he's high and mighty now , he has dual zone people.
 :rolleyes:


 :wink:

Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: Dazzler on October 09, 2010, 13:15:03
... he has dual zone people.
 :rolleyes:
 :wink:

Now those i'd like to see (maybe ugly mongrel is one of those..)  :lol:
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: snowcherry on October 09, 2010, 13:28:15
... he has dual zone people.
 :rolleyes:
 :wink:

Now those i'd like to see (maybe ugly mongrel is one of those..)  :lol:

and wow he's even cockier, trying to get Miss Ugly Mongrel to Dual Zone herself in his Dual Zone Hybrid. you better be careful there Dazz, next you'll be needing a window in your roof to get your head out!   :lol:
Title: Re: What is this for?? (oval shaped "grill" in lower dashboard)
Post by: Dazzler on October 09, 2010, 13:41:47
 :lol:  :lol:(I think?) :eek:
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