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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => TYRES | WHEELS | BRAKES => Topic started by: balzerVRS on November 12, 2010, 16:02:49

Title: NEW WHEELS
Post by: balzerVRS on November 12, 2010, 16:02:49
Has anyone any idea if kia ceed wheels fit i30 16 inch????
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Lorian on November 12, 2010, 16:21:57
i don't know the answer, I'm sure someone will!
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Dazzler on November 12, 2010, 22:01:29
We don't get the ceed over here but I'd bet money they would fit (seeing that they are virtually clones)

Most Tyre/wheel sellers over here have info on what fits what so you could check with a few of yours (I'm sure one will be able to help)

Cheers, Dazz
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: eyecon on November 13, 2010, 09:07:01
 :cool: What Dazz said
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: balzerVRS on November 13, 2010, 13:40:37
Regarding that poll thing. this is my 1st post and no clue to post this,just the basic stuff.

Anyway I was thinking getting a set of wheels for this winter with WINTER tyres on themas cheap as possible, , as I had a very bad experience last winter, with the Snow.

Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: syecadelic on December 23, 2010, 18:41:57
yea. shall do,
both manufacturer's use a 5x 114.3 fitment :)
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Rocket on December 23, 2010, 23:50:26
I am about to fit these Kia Wheels to the i30 -

 (http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/rocket67/Mustangsnmore/014.jpg)

You mention 16", but these Wheels are 17". Think they are off a Cerato or Forte.

Would have had them fitted already - but came across a problem with the centre caps. The ones that came with the Wheels have Kia written on them, so bought a new set of Hyundai centre caps. When the caps arrived i found them to be too big for the Kia rims. No returns were possible so i sanded them down around the edges and cut off the retaining springs. Will just glue the Hyundai caps on after the Wheelas are fitted.

Rocket.
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: rustynutz on December 24, 2010, 01:40:01
Why not just sand the "Kia" off the originals and then repaint to match the wheels?  :-\
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Surferdude on December 24, 2010, 06:41:39
I am about to fit these Kia Wheels to the i30 -

 (http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/rocket67/Mustangsnmore/014.jpg)

You mention 16", but these Wheels are 17". Think they are off a Cerato or Forte.

Would have had them fitted already - but came across a problem with the centre caps. The ones that came with the Wheels have Kia written on them, so bought a new set of Hyundai centre caps. When the caps arrived i found them to be too big for the Kia rims. No returns were possible so i sanded them down around the edges and cut off the retaining springs. Will just glue the Hyundai caps on after the Wheelas are fitted.

Rocket.

Rocket, you've probably considered this but gluing the caps on will mean they will be very hard to balance.
Have had lots of experience with glued on caps and they almost always break every time you want to remove them for  balancer.
Trev

But, damn they're nice wheels. :goodjob:
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: accim on December 24, 2010, 19:00:10
Sorry for late reply.

Kia Ceed alloy's (all of them 15-17") fit 100% on Hyundai i30 and i30CW. I had 16" from Ceed on my i30.

The ones above look like they are from Sorento? They should fit regarding center hole and the "holes pattern" (5×114,3) but you shuld check the offset (ET). It if's too small, they will stick out, if it's too big, they will rub inside. Though i think they'll be ok.
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Rocket on January 05, 2011, 19:06:15

I paid $80 for the centre caps and was made aware that there are no returns on them if they did not fit. The new caps have the Hyundai logo on them so i would prefer to modify these and just glue them on. They will have brand new tyres fitted and probably would not need to be re balanced for a long time.

Plan B is to do as rustynutz suggested and sand off the kia writing on the old ones.

Have checked the offset and it is fine for the i30.

Big question now is which tyres to have fitted? Leaning toward the Dunlop SP Sports due to good reports of them being quiet tyres that will last for about 60,000 klm. Anybody have opinions on the best tyres to use?

Rocket.
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Dazzler on January 05, 2011, 20:34:50
I have Dunlop SP Sport 300E on my Hybrid and they are very quiet.. :D

As regards the Caps. My m8 has a Laser cutting machine which would/can cut to very fine tolerances (trim a bit off the Hyundai caps if they are toobig) and could also put a Hyundai Logo on the old caps if you sanded the Kia off.. I imagine someone nearer you woulld have a similar machine... :idea:

Somewhere on here there are caps he made for at least two of my previous cars..

Here it is..

https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=2768.msg25491#msg25491 (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=2768.msg25491#msg25491)
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Surferdude on January 06, 2011, 08:45:03

I paid $80 for the centre caps and was made aware that there are no returns on them if they did not fit. The new caps have the Hyundai logo on them so i would prefer to modify these and just glue them on. They will have brand new tyres fitted and probably would not need to be re balanced for a long time.

Plan B is to do as rustynutz suggested and sand off the kia writing on the old ones.

Have checked the offset and it is fine for the i30.

Big question now is which tyres to have fitted? Leaning toward the Dunlop SP Sports due to good reports of them being quiet tyres that will last for about 60,000 klm. Anybody have opinions on the best tyres to use?

Rocket.

Hi Rocket, wheel/tyre assemblies should be rebalanced every 10,000 klms.  Now, most people don't do this but imbalance can cause uneven wear problems and once the rubbe ris worn off, you can't replace it so you end up "living" with a vibration for the rest of the life of the tyre.
That's worst case scenario, I know, but it's worth considering.
Now, re Dunlop SP Sports. Can you be more specific?
There are numereous ones - for instance,
Sports Maxx
Sports 300e
Sport 01
Sport 200e
Sport 270
Sport 3000
Sport 2050.

Some will be quiet and wear well, some won't.
Also, what country are you in?
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Rocket on January 06, 2011, 10:43:43

Hey Dazzler, That is pretty impressive. Fortunately i have my own CNC Router which i could use for a similar result -

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/rocket67/Jinan%20Quick%20CNC%20Router/DSC03384.jpg)

We actually have 3 of these CNC Routers. Check out my Thread on CNCzone.com
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/chinese_machines/86978-jinan_quick_cnc_router_purchases.html (http://www.cnczone.com/forums/chinese_machines/86978-jinan_quick_cnc_router_purchases.html)

Not sure i want to get that fancy with the caps. It only took about 10 minutes to modify each one. good enough for the purpose. Thanks for the info.

Surferdude, The specific tyres under consideration were the SP 300E and 200E. This arvo i logged onto tirerack.com and checked out many tyre reviews. From the reviews i am now very confused. seems one mans meat is another mans poison. Some say the 300E is a noisy tyre - but Dazzler states that his are quiet.

This car will probably only be used as a car to drive to work and back - a distance of 20klm, and a general runabout. All of this on good bitumen roads around Adelaide. For country work i drive a Statesman which just had TEO Toyos fitted. Quite impressed with the Toyos, but no need to spend the $840 on tyres for the i30. Any suggestions gratefully received.

Rocket.
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Dazzler on January 06, 2011, 10:57:25
Very Interesting.. I had a look at that link.. So it is a Computer controlled Router?

It might be the design of the Hybrid that makes the 300E tyres seem so quiet? THey have made a big effort to reduce noise .. (although my friend's base model, older camry is not that noisy either.. not sure what tyres he has though) :cool:
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Surferdude on January 06, 2011, 11:03:27
OK Rocket. Thanks for the info.
I would have to say the 300e is a VERY quiet and smooth riding tyre.
Let me back that up with a little personal info. I am Goodyear through and through. So is my wife. However, these days Goodyear owns Dunlop (effectively - although the degree of control varies depending on which world market you are in).
Anyway, I always prefer Goodyear and my wife told a very high ranking executive one time VERY firmly that  she would NEVER have a Dunlop on her car (she actually inherited that attitude from her father when she was growing up).
However, right now she has four Dunlops on her Corolla ( 2 of the original 2050's and 2 - 300e's) and she's very happy with them.
So I'm happy to recommend them. I've certainly sold plenty of them in recent years and never had a noise complaint.

Re the forums, as you say, "another man's poison".
I'm not a lover of forums for feedback as too often they get taken over by negative comments. In my experience, people who are happy with a product just get on with their lives, whereas the unhappy ones - often people who didn't / wouldn't take advice from someone who should know, seem to want to tell the world what poor judges of quality they are.

i30 forum members excluded of  course.

The 300e isn't the cheapest tyre around but if you shop around I'm sure you can get a good deal.
All the best

Trev
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Rocket on January 06, 2011, 11:15:57

Dazzler, Yes it can be controlled directly from the computer or via a usb stick. The machines run on G Code.
We have a cad/cam program called V Carve Pro from Vectric. The design work is done within the program, then toolpathed and converted to G Code for the machine.

Well i am going to take the advice of you guys and go with the SP Sports 300E tyres. Will shop around and see what price i can get. A friend had a set of 200E tyres fitted to his car just before xmas. From memory he only paid about $160 per tyre, although i expect the 300E are a bit more expensive.

Thankyou Dazzler and Surferdude. Appreciate your input and suggestions.

Rocket.
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Surferdude on January 06, 2011, 11:22:49
Rocket, the 200e is an older and (should be) cheaper tyre.
I don't have access to a price list at present but the 17" will be more expensive.
A thought. I can't recall if they're available in a 45 series 17".
I rather think they are designed as a "family" tyre and I'm not sure they go down that low. Hope I'm wrong.

Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Rocket on January 06, 2011, 11:27:55

Oh shyte. Complications. Bugger.

If they are not available in 45 series what would be your next choice?

Prime considerations are quiet and comfortable. Wife is pretty crook at the moment and feels every bump on the road.

Thanks.

Rocket.
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Surferdude on January 06, 2011, 11:41:42
Hmmm?
Just done some googling and I think within the Dunlop range you're going to be limited to the Sport Maxx, the Sport Maxx TT and the SP3000A (in only the 215.45R17). The other 2 are available in all three common 45 series 17".

In the goodyear range you have a couple of Eagle F1 options and the Goodyear "Excellence". All will be expensive and only the Excellence will give you the comfort you want. And I think almost anything with a brand name on it will be about the same -The Toyos may well fit into your price comparison.

If you came into my store with those wheels I'd be going for the Excellence, a Toyo or possibly a Yokohama.

Although there's been some discussion on here, I reckon the best size is 225/45R17 which is pretty much identical to the 205/55R16 standard tyre. There's only .3" difference in the circumference, whereas with the more popular 235/45R17 the difference is 1.4"
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Shambles on January 06, 2011, 13:13:51
I wonder if balzerVRS has got his answer yet :eek:
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Rocket on January 06, 2011, 20:14:00
Sorry for late reply.

Kia Ceed alloy's (all of them 15-17") fit 100% on Hyundai i30 and i30CW. I had 16" from Ceed on my i30.

The ones above look like they are from Sorento? They should fit regarding center hole and the "holes pattern" (5×114,3) but you shuld check the offset (ET). It if's too small, they will stick out, if it's too big, they will rub inside. Though i think they'll be ok.

Shambles, accim replied in the affirmative as above on the 24th december, so yes - balzerVRS has his answer.

Surferdude, Thanks for the info - will look into it next week.

Rocket.
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Shambles on January 06, 2011, 20:22:56
Shambles, accim replied in the affirmative as above on the 24th december, so yes - balzerVRS has his answer.

Yes, I know :rolleyes:

I just hope, if he ever returns to this thread, that his head doesn't explode with information overload ;) (all interesting I have to admit)
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Surferdude on January 06, 2011, 20:39:55
Shambles, accim replied in the affirmative as above on the 24th december, so yes - balzerVRS has his answer.

Yes, I know :rolleyes:

I just hope, if he ever returns to this thread, that his head doesn't explode with information overload ;) (all interesting I have to admit)

Yeah. We did get a bit off topic (I prefer to think we "developed" the topic.  :wink:
Maybe it should be in the Tyres thread, too but not till balzer returns or he may not be able to find it.

OMG! How did I get to be a moderator of the Tyres thread???? :scared:
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Shambles on January 06, 2011, 21:01:31

Maybe it should be in the Tyres thread, too but not till balzer returns or he may not be able to find it.


Yep seems sensible. I'll subscribe balzerVRS to this topic so he'll get an email as to where it's gone :)
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Shambles on January 06, 2011, 21:02:53

OMG! How did I get to be a moderator of the Tyres thread???? :scared:


It's a kind of punishment :P  Enjoy :D
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: 2i30s on January 07, 2011, 09:01:40

OMG! How did I get to be a moderator of the Tyres thread???? :scared:


It's a kind of punishment :P  Enjoy :D
he only just realised.  :rofl: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Surferdude on January 07, 2011, 10:41:03

OMG! How did I get to be a moderator of the Tyres thread???? :scared:


It's a kind of punishment :P  Enjoy :D
he only just realised.  :rofl: :mrgreen:

Shut up you. At least I didn't go round chasing my tail opening the same topic five times.  :rolleyes: :lol: :wink:
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: 2i30s on January 07, 2011, 10:44:34
 :tomato: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Surferdude on January 07, 2011, 10:55:22
Ban Button!

Where's my "Ban" button?
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: 2i30s on January 07, 2011, 11:03:54
Ban Button!

Where's my "Ban" button?
where's your ban button?  where the hell's mine?  :lol:    :offtopic: :wink:
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Surferdude on January 08, 2011, 10:33:37

Oh shyte. Complications. Bugger.

If they are not available in 45 series what would be your next choice?

Prime considerations are quiet and comfortable. Wife is pretty crook at the moment and feels every bump on the road.

Thanks.

Rocket.

Rocket, check here for my comments on a Continental tyre which might suit your needs.
https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=6874.0 (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=6874.0)
I was very impressed with it.

Trev
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Rocket on January 28, 2011, 10:37:11
Thanks for the link Surferdude, very interesting and complimentary to the Continentals.

Unfortunately i missed your post as my wife has just had major surgery and been visiting her several times a day. This also prevented me from obtaining quotes for the different tyres.

Today i had a puncture at work and decided to just get some tyres from the place next door to work. Price for the Toyos was $250 each- too much for me! I was in a hurry and let them talk me into a set of $150 each tyres. He reckons they are great value - time will tell! They are Lucini Buono Sport. Never heard of them. Checked the sidewalls tonight and it says "Made in PRC " Hmmm ( Peoples Republic of China ). Size is 215/45R17.
Have only driven about 60klm on them so far and they seem quite good. Reasonably Quiet at 110klm/h, no tyre squeal with fast cornering, seem to have good traction.
Here is the car with the new wheels fitted -
 (http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/rocket67/Hail%20damaged%20Cars/003-11.jpg)
Of course the dog just had to pee on them as soon as i got home tonight
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/rocket67/Hail%20damaged%20Cars/005-7.jpg)

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/rocket67/Hail%20damaged%20Cars/009-9.jpg)
Fitted one of my modified centre caps -Will see how it goes then decide which caps to use.

Rocket.

Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: 2i30s on January 28, 2011, 10:40:58
they look like they are supposed to be on the car.  :mrgreen: :goodjob:
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Surferdude on January 28, 2011, 10:41:22
Car looks good rocket.
I've never heard of the tyres either but there are several hundred tyre factories in PRC. :sweating:
Be interesting to see how they wear.

Hope your wife is OK.
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: rustynutz on January 28, 2011, 11:10:08
Sorry to hear about your wife, Rocket....best wishes on a speedy recovery!  :)

On a brighter note, your wheels look great.... :goodjob:

Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Dazzler on January 28, 2011, 11:21:27
Hi Rocket ...give your wife our best wishes for a speedy recovery... :'(

Your car looks great by the way.. The wheels really suit  :goodjob:
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Rocket on January 28, 2011, 12:07:20

Hey thanks guys, really appreciate your sentiments.

My wife has been very ill for over a year now. Finally it was discovered that antibiotic beads that were surrounding her Aorta after a graft 5 years ago had ruptured through her duodenum. It was incredibly painful for her. She is currently in the intensive care unit with tubes hanging out of her everywhere.
The doctors are optimistic for her full recovery now. She is looking better already. The worst is behind us.

The i30 is proving to be an exceptional car. I have found that it is necessary to use the revs to get the most out of it, and i must admit that during my many trips to the hospital i pushed the car harder than i would normally, but the car just gets on with the job without any fuss.

Might even lift the bonnet and check all the fluids tomorrow - first time in ages. Not normally slack with car care.

Oh and the Wheels - Bloody Rippers!!


Rocket.
Title: Re: NEW WHEELS
Post by: Dazzler on January 29, 2011, 02:09:18
The doctors are optimistic for her full recovery now. She is looking better already. The worst is behind us.

That's good news  :goodjob:
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