i30 Owners Club
OFF TOPIC => MEMBERS OTHER MOTORS => Topic started by: bumpkin on February 26, 2011, 20:25:50
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Went for a bit of a wander around some dealers today and popped into Chevrolet to look at the Cruze. Not as well appointed or built as the i30 IMHO, but you know how it is, had to ask for a trade-in deal just to see....
On a 2.0VCDi LT + CS lowering kit, alloys and spoilers I was quoted just shy of £20,000, but they would take it down to about £17500 by removing the 5 year promise (still 5 year warranty, but no included servicing or MOT).
OK says I, what kind of price for the i30 with 13500 miles (you folks all know the rest of my spec so I won't bore you!)
6K!!!!!!!!!!
That's 50% depreciation in 2.5 years on a car which I got for 5K less than list price anyway. Sorry says I, thanks but no thanks. Must visit the Hyundai dealer and see what they are offering..................however I guess the i30 will be on my driveway for quite some time to come!!
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£2,500 seems a bit steep for 5 years service and MOT.
When I got my 130 last year the second hand prices seemed very high, which was one thing which convinced me to get one. They seemed to have dropped quite a bit last time I looked though. Anyone would think there was an economic crisis or summat.
Probably keep mine for quite a few years anyway.
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They seem to be holding their price well over here.. 2nd hand i30's are scarce in the yards in Tassie..but looking Australia Wide on Carsales.com even though there are a fair few to choose from the Diesels and CW's in particular are top $$$ (Compared to other cars in their class) :cool:
Would cars like yours sell privately for say around 8-9K in Scotland Brian? (It is a pretty snazzy looking machine)
11,500 Pounds is a lot of changeover to find... :eek:
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The dealer its just offering auction price, I guess he's not interested in it really.
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I'm interested to see what the Hyundai dealer will offer also,Brian. keep us posted mate. :goodjob:
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The dealer its just offering auction price, I guess he's not interested in it really.
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Whilst the dealer is perhaps not interested in the i30, he is obviously not interested in getting one of his vehicles on the road either! Having said that, I am not ready to change really, just doing that man thing of annoying salesmen on a Saturday afternoon :D
If I am in past the Hy dealer, I'll let you know.
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bumpkin, was just reading this, i always thought the Cruise would be badged as a Vaxhall over there? out here they have the Vax lion badge I just don't like, always thought Holden Australia's own car should have a more aussie badge. but it's been omn Holdens from the start so too late now.
About the trade in price. i would say the salesman has to sell or your trade in car has to sell for more $ than he gives you for it so he gets a comission or bonus. could probably pick you were just checking prices.
here in Sydney there are a number of low K near new i30 petrol auto on Parramatta Road Ashfield ex rental cars from $18,000 to $16,000. no Diesels there or Manuals
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Hi Lakes
No the Cruze is Chevrolet over here, I guess though that in reality it is because it is basically a Vauxhall Astra/Vectra running gear and so can't be badged as a Vauxhall due to those models being available. Truth be told the fact that it is a re-badged Vauxhall kinda puts me off, never been a Vauxhall fan!
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I've never set foot in a Vauxhall franchised garage since 1979 when a salesperson said, as he was looking me up and down, that I couldn't afford to buy a brand new car.
OK I was wearing a t shirt and tatty jeans but even in 1979 I was well paid and could easily afford to buy not just the base model but the top of the range.
As I was leaving the sales room a well presented gent, presume the gaffer, came to me and asked whether I would be buying. I just looked at him, disgusted face, and referred him to the salesperson who had been speaking to me.
As I was leaving the car park he ran over to me and apologies but I just said I would never set foot in the sales room nor ever consider buying a Vauxhall. I told all my work colleagues and they never went to that franchise.
Since that day I've never driven or owned a Vauxhall.
ps I think I was looking at the Nova.
pps Some of the wealthy people wear t shirt and jeans as part of there "normal" clothes. I wonder if they get the same treatment!!!!
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Hey Lester .. You sound like me.. Trish reckons I hold on to some things for a long time.. I could imagine being exactly like you in the same circumstances.. Although in reality you (we) may actually do ourselves a dis-service by limiting our options or being pig headed in such circumstances... :sweating:
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I cant get the Kia Sportage Cross-over out of my mind for when swap time comes around! :cool:
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I cant get the Kia Sportage Cross-over out of my mind for when swap time comes around! :cool:
You don't like the ix35.? they are the same car under the skin.. (we had a great advert for the Sportage over here :razz:) A guy with some Rappers in his car singing along and forgetting to get the Nappies ... :rofl:
In Oz I feel Hyundai may now have better resale than Kia.. (they are still earning their stripes)
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When I was looking at upgrading the Tiida, I test drove a cruze, I didnt like it, the interior was too dark and made it a bit claustrophobic.
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That's interesting Trish, the Cruze over here has quite a nice cabin, they have grey cloth seats and the same fabric is used on the dash, with lighter grey plastics and silver "carbon fibre" look centre console, I quite like it.
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The one I test drove was all black.
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The one I test drove was all black.
Here is an example of ours, but the one I was looking at yesterday didn't have the black it was a light grey
http://www.chevrolet.co.uk/cars/cruze/gallery/interior-images.html
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Yeah, thats a lot nicer than ours.
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I just caught up with a guy I used to work with over 30 years ago...and he has a diesel Cruze CD which he is pretty pleased with except for the low down turbo lag..(from memory when we did a test drive it was worse than the i30 Crdi). He has a really interesting mix of cars he is doing up (but I will post that in a separate tread)
Here is a link to our much darker and more claustraphobic interior (even the seats are black in all the ones we have seen - although they don't look like it in this image)
http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/cruze/cd/interior (http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/cruze/cd/interior)
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I cant get the Kia Sportage Cross-over out of my mind for when swap time comes around! :cool:
You don't like the ix35.? they are the same car under the skin.. (we had a great advert for the Sportage over here :razz:) A guy with some Rappers in his car singing along and forgetting to get the Nappies ... :rofl:
In Oz I feel Hyundai may now have better resale than Kia.. (they are still earning their stripes)
Not so keen on the iX35 nose Dazz... but my mind may get changed depending on used residuals in a couple of years time lol!
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I cant get the Kia Sportage Cross-over out of my mind for when swap time comes around! :cool:
Hey Foxy whats a cross over? ( hope not cross dresser LOL ) but KIA are making some nice looking cars, just not sure if any have exciting performance, we have some mountains to climb here and need Torque.
cheers
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Hey Foxy whats a cross over? ( hope not cross dresser LOL ) but KIA are making some nice looking cars, just not sure if any have exciting performance, we have some mountains to climb here and need Torque.
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Hi John .. The Kia Sportage has the same R diesel as Blue's new ix35 Highlander (392 NM) so no problem there :goodjob:
I have it on good authority there is a 6 months waiting list for a Sportage Diesel and the IX35 Diesel is also in short supply (Both VERY popular)
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(we had a great advert for the Sportage over here :razz:) A guy with some Rappers in his car singing along and forgetting to get the Nappies ... :rofl:
Grandmaster Flash :cool:
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Was in at Hyundai this afternoon, £6500 offered for mine against a brand new ix20 Style (Style is the top of the ix20 range).
That's a non-starter at the moment as well, 50% depreciation in 2.5 years really shows how the bottom has fallen out of the used car market in the UK. Not surprising since the dealers are all pushing new sales with 0% VAT offers etc......
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That's a non-starter at the moment as well, 50% depreciation in 2.5 years really shows how the bottom has fallen out of the used car market in the UK. Not surprising since the dealers are all pushing new sales with 0% VAT offers etc......
That is why we were happy to get back 17K after 2.5 years (and 68,000kms) when we traded our CRDi on the Hybrid... (around 40% depreciation)
The Tiida was about 50% though in the same period (with only 25K on the clock :'()
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That's a non-starter at the moment as well, 50% depreciation in 2.5 years really shows how the bottom has fallen out of the used car market in the UK. Not surprising since the dealers are all pushing new sales with 0% VAT offers etc......
That is why we were happy to get back 17K after 2.5 years (and 68,000kms) when we traded our CRDi on the Hybrid... (around 40% depreciation)
The Tiida was about 50% though in the same period (with only 25K on the clock :'()
I think that's pretty general with Nissans, Dazz. Unfortunately for Nissan owners but it means there are often REALLY good bargains on nearly new, second hand Nissans.
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Well, I have been sniffing around the Hy website and was most impressed to see this version of the ix20.........
http://www.hyundai-car.co.uk/accessories/all/?modelName=ix20 (http://www.hyundai-car.co.uk/accessories/all/?modelName=ix20)
Now the pic shows a basic one but I have to admit that I like the idea of a Style version with the skid plates, door trims and mudflaps added, the list price on that would be about £14,500 for the petrol model.
Pros:
Extra 100 miles to a tank of fuel compared to the i30
Road Tax is £65 per annum less for petrol
More space than the i30
Brand new, no MOT for 3 years and comes with 5 year triple care anyway......
Wheels 2 inch smaller so tyre replacement is about £50 per corner cheaper.
Insurance also cheaper by as much as £100 per annum.
Cons
Either petrol or model variant are only 89hp, so not startling in the performance stakes. The diesel is also reported to be a bit harsh, all the reviews I have seen suggest that the petrol 1.4 is the "best buy". The extra premium for the diesel would again take a considerable timescale to pay for itself so we go petrol. One has to ask then, given that I am a 6000 mile per annum driver, mainly city driving, does the lack of grunt really matter?
Summary
Hyundai have stopped doing the Premium i30 in petrol variants in the UK anyway, so despite loving the i30 to bits, I am disappointed that you can only now get to mid level trim with the 1.4 engine i30.
If I could get Hy to raise their value on mine I would seriously consider going for this, now that it costs over £60 to fill the car with fuel for approx 350-400 miles, the thought of getting 450-500 miles for the same money in a brand new car is certainly appealing.
I may have to go back to my dealer and tell him to sharpen his pencil............
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seems like a great deal to me Brian,but its a lot smaller than your i30. :neutral: will it be big enough for your growing family? [im not sure if you have a second car.]
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Hi Brian ..
Surprised you say "more space" I thought it would be a size down on the i30..
If you are only doing 6k miles per year your current i30 would be hardly run in and is certainly better looking than the ix20..(I.M.O.)
Take a lot of fuel to offset the changeover too :winker:
I reckon they would have to go a lot sharper to tempt me :lol:
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Hi Brian ..
Surprised you say "more space" I thought it would be a size down on the i30..
If you are only doing 6k miles per year your current i30 would be hardly run in and is certainly better looking than the ix20..(I.M.O.)
Take a lot of fuel to offset the changeover too :winker:
I reckon they would have to go a lot sharper to tempt me :lol:
i thought its a smaller car also. :confused:
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Size Comparison
Boot i30 340l ix20 440l
Seats down i30 1250l ix20 1486l
Length i30 4280mm ix20 4100mm
Width i30 1775mm ix20 1765mm
Height i30 1480mm ix20 1600mm
Wheelbase i30 2650mm ix20 2615mm
Not much in it, the slightly smaller length of the ix20 is due to the short bonnet and the luggage space in the ix20 is significantly better. Family will not be getting any bigger, snip snip! so that is not an issue.
I am taking all comments on board though guys (and gals!) :D :D
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Hi Brian, is the ix20 a 4wd as we don't get that model over here.
How does it compare to the i20.
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its deceiving to look at,i really thought it was a much smaller car all round. :goodjob: is the warranty 5 years like the i30? :idea:
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Hi Trish, no only front wheel drive, it is one of what we call Supermini MPV and as such is based on the i20 platform.
The mechanicals are all i20, with suspension tuning to suit UK roads and much bigger than the i20. I have not driven one yet, but have sat in one and the elevated driving position gives superb visibility, the rear seats are positioned higher than the front allowing the wee one a better view, the dash has a very nice alloy/piano black gloss centre console.
Steve, yes it comes with 5 year warranty, 5 years roadside assistance and 5 year free health checks.
Don't know if you can all see this but there is a video review here if you click the link on the right hand side of the page.
http://www.arnoldclark.com/used-cars/hyundai/ix20/range/brand-new-11-plate/ref/blk_abyicp0p2nd77g4l/ (http://www.arnoldclark.com/used-cars/hyundai/ix20/range/brand-new-11-plate/ref/blk_abyicp0p2nd77g4l/)
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Steve, yes it comes with 5 year warranty, 5 years roadside assistance and 5 year free health checks.
health checks. :confused: i assume you mean the car. :lol:
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Steve, yes it comes with 5 year warranty, 5 years roadside assistance and 5 year free health checks.
health checks. :confused: i assume you mean the car. :lol:
:rofl: :rofl: Your assumption is correct!
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free doctors visits for 5 years would be nice though. :winker: :lol:
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whats it like to drive?
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whats it like to drive?
Go back up and you will find a modified post :-[ :-[
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Just looked at the video of the ix20, it seems like it is value for money. :goodjob:
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Another factor for me is that I buy my cars on finance and therefore would be in the position of having a brand new car for the same payments as I am making on my almost three year old one......................
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it seems to tick all the boxes,lets just see how it drives. :idea: :winker:
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That video link was a good watch.. David Frost meets Richard Attenborough (The reviewer reminded me a bit of both :lol:) Didn't really like the styling to start with but it actually grows on you and I was surprised how much bigger it looked than the Getz :scared:
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Here's a brochure (http://www.hyundai-car.co.uk/a/pdf/brochures/ix20.pdf) :)
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Test drive arranged for Monday afternoon......................
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Test drive arranged for Monday afternoon......................
Good luck... I'm sure you'll make the right decision mate :clapping:
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Test drive arranged for Monday afternoon......................
Good luck... I'm sure you'll make the right decision mate :clapping:
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Hi all
OK, had a test drive, the 1.4 petrol is very nice, more power than I expected, accelerated uphill (steep hill) in 5th gear nicely, didn't feel any less gutsy than the i30 if I am honest, then again I have checked and it has a similar power/weight ratio to the Fiesta/Corsa so not as shabby as the figures may at first suggest.
Slightly less specced than the i30, even in Style (Premium) guise, but has ESP, EPS, Electric windows all round (only drivers is Auto), HALO, ISG, Ipod/USB connectivity, bluetooth, dash shows gear change indicator for "optimum" driving, outside temp display, A/C, front fog lights, panoramic sunroof, manual blinds but electric roof itself, reverse parking sensors which can be switched off from the cabin.
Driving: Excellent visibility, steering light and precise (lighter than the i30 on 18" wheels certainly, but that will be down to the smaller wheels with Continental PremiContact low resistance tyres, very easy to drive overall, gearchange very smooth, clutch lighter than the i30 (I didn't stall it and neither did Kim, suggesting it is less prone than the i30 from new or we are used to the i30!!)
To the proposed deal then
OTR Price for ix20 - £14395
CAP guide for my car £5950
:scared: :scared:
Much pencil sharpening later, bumpkin signs off on a deal which gave me £7000 for mine and a reduced APR on the finance which sees my monthly payments increasing by £5 per month compared to now.
Some paperwork to sort out, however swap takes place on Friday.
Some shoogly mobile pix of my new toy, ix20 Style BlueDrive in Ice Blue Metallic :D :D
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/bumpkinbucket/IMAG0043.jpg)
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/bumpkinbucket/IMAG0041.jpg)
I then stuck the SOLD sticker on the screen
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/bumpkinbucket/IMAG0044.jpg)
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Turncoat ................................................
Nice colour and love the front shape.
I looked at them the last time I was at the Dealers.
I found the cabin space about the same as the i30 but the boot space was about 2/3rds of the i30.
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The boot is 100l bigger :confused:
Staying with the best brand folks!! :winker: :goodjob: :goodjob:
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Good luck... I'm sure you'll make the right decision mate :clapping:
... swap takes place on Friday.
Looks like I was wrong :P
If I were you I'd have kept that i30 for another year as you've already absorbed all the original VAT and a whole heap of depreciation.
Still, I've driven one [loaner] and must admit they do drive very very well.
Not the car for me, though (boot's too small :lol:)... :wacko:
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Really like the colour Brian.. Nice to get a brand new car and only $5 a month more to pay :goodjob:
Sounds like a win/win with driveability/ room/ tax charges etc.. :eek:
Will miss your stripes (hope you will still stick around) :sweating:
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Hi Brian, love your new baby, looks good love the colour :goodjob:
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Thanks folks :goodjob: :goodjob:
Don't worry, I will be sticking around, I have made some superb friends on here and have no intention of letting that go :goodjob: :goodjob:
I have a soft spot for the i30 and have had a great time with mine over the past three years. I am hugely enthusiastic about the entire Hyundai range and will admit to a slight feeling of trepidation about letting my special i30 go :blubber: :blubber:
It will be interesting to see if she re-appears on this site in the future, she is certainly going to the dealers with the sticker on the rear window, hope they don't remove it!! :fum:
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I'm sure you will love your new Hyundai Brian. :hatoff::goodjob: i hope you stay around,you wouldn't be the only member without an i30. :idea: :winker:
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Hi Brian, love your new baby, looks good love the colour :goodjob:
Is there a name on your paperwork for the colour (It isn't moonlight blue by any chance?)
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Hi Brian, love your new baby, looks good love the colour :goodjob:
Is there a name on your paperwork for the colour (It isn't moonlight blue by any chance?)
No this is Ice Blue (Metallic) :D
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It's so cute. :D It's just like a little mini-me i30. :goodjob:
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It's so cute. :D It's just like a little mini-me i30. :goodjob:
:goodjob: :goodjob: If the kittikat is purring then I am happy!
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It's so cute. :D It's just like a little mini-me i30. :goodjob:
:goodjob: :goodjob: If the kittikat is purring then I am happy!
:goodjob: :mrgreen:
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And so the savings start, my insurance premium is £25 per annum less than the i30 :goodjob:
Car is registered and going for PDI tomorrow. I have asked for HALO to be switched on and there is a software update for the ix20 apparently which they will be installing also.
Looking good for the swap on Friday morning.
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Looking good for the swap on Friday morning.
Exciting stuff Brian ... Alway fun getting a new car :goodjob:
We want to hear (and see) all about it.. :D
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I'm guessing that now's the time to start measuring the countdown in "sleeps" :lol: :P
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I saw an i20 here in Sunbury at the weekend. It really was a cute car! :D That is the first one I have seen in person. There are very few (read none!) i45's or i20's around. Even where I work there is a Hyundai dealer and it is a reasonably small (virtual) country town, I see don't see any. People don't know what they are missing. :disapp: Hope all goes well Bumpkin. I think it's a good swap.
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Car is registered and going for PDI tomorrow.
Looking good for the swap on Friday morning.
What road fund £?
Wouldn't it have been better to wait until 1 May, Sunday, as you will only get 11 months worth?
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I saw an i20 here in Sunbury at the weekend. It really was a cute car! :D That is the first one I have seen in person. There are very few (read none!) i45's or i20's around. Even where I work there is a Hyundai dealer and it is a reasonably small (virtual) country town, I see don't see any. People don't know what they are missing. :disapp: Hope all goes well Bumpkin. I think it's a good swap.
The ix20 is different to the i20 we get in Australia, Kittikat..... :)
Here's a quick review I found.....
Hyundai iX20 review - CarBuyer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FleZV5s43P0#ws)
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Car is registered and going for PDI tomorrow.
Looking good for the swap on Friday morning.
What road fund £?
Wouldn't it have been better to wait until 1 May, Sunday, as you will only get 11 months worth?
She will be taxed for a year for £90. Indeed there will only be 11 months of tax as you say, but I am getting my existing disc back and will get the refund on that. It will have to be taxed on Thursday since everything is closed from Thursday night until Tuesday due to some wedding and the May Weekend :rolleyes:
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Have you got plans to take it for an inaugural drive on Friday
Don't forget the customary photo's
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Yes and the camera batteries are being charged as we speak :goodjob: :D
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Wedding? There's a wedding? :rofl: Look on it like an Aussie..... any excuse for a long weekend and a booze up! :goodjob:
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Only 1.5 hours to go!
The omens are good, the weekend after I picked up the i30 we attended a friends wedding at a hotel we have not been in since. Last night we were invited to a birthday party in the same hotel tomorrow night, spooky!
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Only 1.5 hours to go!
The omens are good, the weekend after I picked up the i30 we attended a friends wedding at a hotel we have not been in since. Last night we were invited to a birthday party in the same hotel tomorrow night, spooky!
Was expecting you to say you had received a last minute invite to THE WEDDING.