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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => ELECTRICAL | ELECTRONIC | AUDIO => Topic started by: bumpkin on June 10, 2011, 14:37:16

Title: GPS Mod.
Post by: bumpkin on June 10, 2011, 14:37:16
I never got to grips with my portable sat-nav and where I wanted it in the i30, it invariably ended up suctioned to the windscreen leaving the circular marks and I was never that keen on the cable trailing from the power outlet over the dash/vents/switches.

In the end I routed the power cord under the centre console, under the dash towards the drivers door and through the fuse-box door, but the GPS was still stuck to the windscreen.

The ix20 fuse box does not have a door so the "solution" for the i30 does not work, but there is a nice wee cubby where the power outlet and USB port is, again though I was struggling to get the unit to sit properly and stay there when you went round corners etc.

 :idea: :idea: :idea: And then the light bulb came on, I have cut a piece of glass to the same size as the floor of the cubby and installed the GPS holder onto that, the GPS now sits just behind the gear-lever and right beside the power outlet with the cable neatly  :whistler:  tucked behind it and the USB stick still in the port.  The unit sticks out a bit further than I would like, but I would need to try and source a mount with a smaller arm to fix that.
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: Shambles on June 10, 2011, 14:53:14
Can you still see the GPS screen ok, all the way down there, or do you rely on the vocal directions?

Post a pic (there's a guide to using Photobucket somewhere ;))
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: bumpkin on June 10, 2011, 15:33:00
I usually rely on vocal directions.

The screen however is not as low down in that central cubby as it was in the i30, not much different to the glance for changing heating/aircon controls really, the gearstick in the ix20 is level with my hand on the armrest of the drivers seat and the GPS is behind that.

I haven't driven with it yet, so may have to alter my thinking, the point I was getting at was that I am sure we have all hoped that the suction mounts would grab a smooth piece of plastic instead of the windscreen and if you can find a flat area but your mount won't grab, that a piece of glass or even a piece of ceramic tile might do the job.

I'll get me camerara :winker: :winker:

Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: AlanHo on June 10, 2011, 16:14:22
I have mounted my sat-nav on the dashboard in what I consider to be the ideal position. It does not cut off any of the windscreen and can be seen at a glance without having to take your eyes completely off the road ahead. Because the i30 dash is curved – I first had to make a suitable mount.  This is a repeat of the post I made a few months ago – but brought up to date with photos of my i30.

Ingredients

A plastic tube about 6 cm inside diameter (cut from plastic bottle)
A tin of Plastic Padding (Epoxy body filler)
Some polythene (heavy gauge poly bag)
Adhesive tape
Blue tack
The Garmin polished metal disc
Paint to match the dashboard
Epoxy glue
Patience and dexterity

After deciding the exact position you require to mount the sat-nav – carefully cut one end of the plastic tube to the exact profile of the dashboard. This is to make a mould in which you will pour plastic padding.

Now cut the tube as close as possible to the curved end – this will set the thickness of the adaptor

Attach the polythene to the dashboard (using sticky tape) to cover the area where the adaptor is to be mounted. Stretch the polythene really tight so that it will not move. Fold up and double back the ends of the sticky tape so that it can be removed very quickly. You will see why in a minute as you read on.

Place the plastic tubular mould in its required location and hold it firmly in place with blue tack round its full external circumference.

Mix the required amount of plastic padding and fill the mould to the top – make sure there are no air pockets and that you get the top surface as level as possible. The material will start to cure and will gradually get warm. Keep testing the top surface and before it gets too hot, yet firm, quickly release the polythene and remove the adaptor from the dashboard before it gets too hot and damages the dashboard surface.

Leave to fully cure for an hour or so and remove the plastic tubular mould.

Now fettle any loose bits from the bottom edges where the plastic padding has found its way under the mould – before placing a sheet of emery on a flat surface and “sanding” the top surface of the adaptor to get it dead flat.

Paint the outside diameter with your paint – stipple it on - to try and replicate the surface of the dashboard. Leave to dry overnight.

Using epoxy glue – attach the Garmin polished metal disc, Attach the Garmin adhesive pad to the bottom surface and mount on your dashboard.

The lead you can see running up to the windscreen is the aerial for the traffic receiver.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/AlanHo1937/SatNav1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/AlanHo1937/SatNav2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/AlanHo1937/SatNavDashMount.jpg)


Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: 2i30s on June 10, 2011, 16:27:13
that's a great idea Alan.  :goodjob: :mrgreen: :goodjob:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: bumpkin on June 10, 2011, 19:58:59
Here is where mine sits now, perhaps a bit low, but nice and tidy :razz: :razz:

(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/bumpkinbucket/DSCF2394.jpg)
You can see what I mean about the armrest being level with the gearstick, so the cubby is not as low down as in the i30.

(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/bumpkinbucket/DSCF2392.jpg)
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: AlanHo on June 10, 2011, 20:08:12
I am surprised that you are able to get a decent satellite connection with the unit buried so far from the windows.

I quite like your lateral thinking - but my own view is that your sat nav is too far away from your normal driving vision to be really safe.
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: bumpkin on June 10, 2011, 20:10:13
Yep, 8 satellites picked up within a couple of minutes :razz: :razz:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: Dazzler on June 10, 2011, 23:12:19
Thanks guys a photo or two makes all the difference .. Happy with mine stuck to the screen on the far R/H side but must do something better with the wiring... :whistler:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: 2i30s on June 11, 2011, 12:16:23
I've still got to buy a sat nav,i still use a street directory.   :-[:whistler: :lol:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: jabber on June 12, 2011, 14:28:21
bumpkin you are an inspiration to me!  :D

i too had issues with my gps leaving circular marks on the windshield.  but for me the main problem was that my gps has a 7" screen. couldn't put it in the middle as i have my reverse camera monitor hidden inside the cubbyhole in the middle of the dash. and even if i put the gps in the far right hand side it still blocks a corner of my view.  after seeing bumpkin's pics  :idea: i decided to bring the gps down.

this was before when i had the gps above the dashboard ...

(http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l487/jabber_gon/P6120183.jpg)

this is now ...

(http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l487/jabber_gon/P6130197.jpg)

it looks like it blocks a bit of the aircon controls but i still have access to the dials & can even turn them comfortably  :D  i didn't lose the small compartment above the ashtray & i can still open the ashtray (which i use for coins).

thanks for the idea bumpkin!
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: rustynutz on June 12, 2011, 15:31:38
I've still got to buy a sat nav,i still use a street directory.   :-[:whistler: :lol:

Here you go, Steve...you can get one of these for not much more than the cost of a Melways....  :p

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350462834246&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350462834246&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: Dazzler on June 12, 2011, 22:41:44
I've still got to buy a sat nav,i still use a street directory.   :-[:whistler: :lol:

Here you go, Steve...you can get one of these for not much more than the cost of a Melways....  :p

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350462834246&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350462834246&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

Looks like excellent value  :goodjob: (Great feature for the price  :scared:)
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: Dazzler on June 12, 2011, 22:44:30
Hey Jabber .. you've got the gear there  :goodjob:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: jabber on June 13, 2011, 02:29:06
Hey Jabber .. you've got the gear there  :goodjob:

i measured how far out the gps should be so i'm not hitting it with my hand when i change gears. i'm quite happy where its sitting right now  :D
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: rustynutz on June 13, 2011, 02:47:16
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350462834246&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350462834246&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

Looks like excellent value  :goodjob: (Great feature for the price  :scared:)

I bought one myself so I'll let you know what I think of it.... :goodjob:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: Dazzler on June 13, 2011, 03:15:45
We paid 3 times as much as that for our Garmin  :confused:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: rustynutz on June 13, 2011, 03:46:21
Besides having a lot of features for the price, one of the attractions was the free, lifetime map updates....As you've probably found out by now, Garmin map updates are bloody expensive!  :scared:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: jabber on June 13, 2011, 20:59:23
hey rusty i noticed that the gps you got from ebay can also be used as a reverse camera monitor  :goodjob:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: rustynutz on June 14, 2011, 01:51:03
Yes, a handy feature!  :goodjob:

I did wonder whether I should've paid the extra $30 and got the camera too but wasn't that keen on running the wiring through to the dash.

If this GPS ends up being a good thing, maybe I'll get a wireless camera down the track?  :undecided:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: druggist on June 14, 2011, 03:23:13
Hi rustynutz,

I am also looking at replacing an older GPS.
Please let us know:
-Are directions given in Aussie accent?
-How quick is it at recalculating trips after a wrong turn?
-Does the windscreen attachment have a long enough arm to cope with the i30 sloping windscreen? Long enough to sit low on the dash rather than 1/3 way up the windscreen.

Thanks
Druggist
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: rustynutz on June 14, 2011, 05:16:03
Hi rustynutz,

I am also looking at replacing an older GPS.
Please let us know:
-Are directions given in Aussie accent?
-How quick is it at recalculating trips after a wrong turn?
-Does the windscreen attachment have a long enough arm to cope with the i30 sloping windscreen? Long enough to sit low on the dash rather than 1/3 way up the windscreen.

Thanks
Druggist

I'll do that....  :goodjob:
It's been posted so hopefully I'll receive it in the next couple of days.... :)
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: 2i30s on June 14, 2011, 10:51:34
I've put the add in my favorites Russ,I'm also using you as the test pilot.  :scared: :rofl: at $100,it sounds to good to let slip away.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: rustynutz on June 14, 2011, 11:04:23
Oh, the pressure is on me now.... :sweating:  :lol:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: 2i30s on June 14, 2011, 11:15:17
sue told me to buy one,that's a great price for all of those functions.  :goodjob: i told her you've bought one and I'll wait to see what you think of it.  :whistler: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: jabber on June 14, 2011, 13:48:03
Yes, a handy feature!  :goodjob:

I did wonder whether I should've paid the extra $30 and got the camera too but wasn't that keen on running the wiring through to the dash.

If this GPS ends up being a good thing, maybe I'll get a wireless camera down the track?  :undecided:

i suggest not to go for a wireless camera.  i had one with my gps & the video signal was not very good ... a fair bit of static.  i had to re-install a hard wired camera which gives a clearer signal.  it's not that difficult running the wires from the back of the car to the dash. a bit time consuming but it's possible.  if you go thru the search engine of this forum someone has done it (with pics posted as well).  the only issue i can see with your gps unit Rusty is that the AV in is 2.5mm whereas video cables that come with cameras are RCA.  is your car a hatch or a CW? i've offered a freebie in the For Sale / Wanted section ...  :winker:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: Dazzler on June 14, 2011, 21:53:53
the only issue i can see with your gps unit Rusty is that the AV in is 2.5mm whereas video cables that come with cameras are RCA.  is your car a hatch or a CW? i've offered a freebie in the For Sale / Wanted section ...  :winker:

Would be fairly easy to change that plug with a soldering iron and a 2.5 mm plug from Jaycar or Leading edge  :winker:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: rustynutz on June 15, 2011, 03:15:23
Yes, a handy feature!  :goodjob:

I did wonder whether I should've paid the extra $30 and got the camera too but wasn't that keen on running the wiring through to the dash.

If this GPS ends up being a good thing, maybe I'll get a wireless camera down the track?  :undecided:

i suggest not to go for a wireless camera.  i had one with my gps & the video signal was not very good ... a fair bit of static.  i had to re-install a hard wired camera which gives a clearer signal.  it's not that difficult running the wires from the back of the car to the dash. a bit time consuming but it's possible.  if you go thru the search engine of this forum someone has done it (with pics posted as well).  the only issue i can see with your gps unit Rusty is that the AV in is 2.5mm whereas video cables that come with cameras are RCA.  is your car a hatch or a CW? i've offered a freebie in the For Sale / Wanted section ...  :winker:

Thanks for the heads up, Jabber!
Like Daz mentioned, I guess I can always swap the plug.....

As for your "freebie" I had better go check it out!

Cheers  :)
Ps...I have a hatch...
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: druggist on June 15, 2011, 04:12:27
Sent the eBay seller some questions & received the following information.
What mapping software do you use? . IGO 8
How do I update maps indefinitely? We will email you the download link when we get the latest map.
Is it possible to buy a wireless reversing camera with 5" GPS? Yes. please buy online and email me to let me know you want a wireless reverse camera.( extra charge would be $10)
Please transfer via paypal for the extra charge

I think IGO is used by Hyundai, VW & Toyota OE GPS from what I can see on their website.

Anyone using a GPS with IGO?
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: jabber on June 15, 2011, 08:26:57
i've got iGo on my gps (which i got from ebay) & works very. haven't had any issues since i got it about 2 months ago. i was also supplied maps for NZ, North America (USA & Canada) & Europe  :goodjob:

the gps also came with a wireless reverse camera but i wouldn't promote it (wireless). the video signal's got too much static. go for wired camera. running the cable from back to the dash is not that difficult, just time consuming  :sweating:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: rustynutz on June 16, 2011, 14:14:17
sue told me to buy one,that's a great price for all of those functions.  :goodjob: i told her you've bought one and I'll wait to see what you think of it.  :whistler: :mrgreen:

I received my new GPS in the mail this morning and after having a play around with it, I'd have to give it the big thumbs down, at this stage anyhow....  :fum:
Unless I'm missing some setting, it appears that this unit needs to be turned on and off when you want to use it....major pain in the bum compared to the Garmin which simply comes on with the ignition.
I'll spend a bit more time with it in case I've missed something, (which is not hard to do as there are so many things you can change). I might even reset everything back to factory settings yet as it's easy to screw things up...lol.
Oh, nearly forgot, there are no Aussie voices either.... :confused:

So Steve, I don't think I'd be in a rush to buy one just yet.....  :undecided:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: Dazzler on June 16, 2011, 22:51:01
Thanks for the feedback Russ .. Our previous Mio had to be switched on and off manually but now used to the Garmin would find that a pain.. although at half the price of the garmin with free updates I could live with it!  :lol:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: jabber on June 17, 2011, 03:36:36
i suggest copying all of the data in the original onto a high capacity micro sd then saving the original as your back-up. then add some divx movies to the new mem card (comes in handy for me while witing for the kids to come out from school)  :)
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: Alasama on June 17, 2011, 05:43:06
Seems my GPS is not too bad. It is auto turned on & off by ignition, also featured digital TV and microSD slot.  :happydance:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: 2i30s on June 17, 2011, 23:51:34
Thanks for the feedback Russ .. Our previous Mio had to be switched on and off manually but now used to the Garmin would find that a pain.. although at half the price of the garmin with free updates I could live with it!  :lol:
our gps at the moment is a mobile phone,or street directory.  :whistler:  the sat nav I'm buying will only be used occasionally and used in two different cars,I'm not fussed at having to manually turn it on and off.  :razz:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: rustynutz on June 18, 2011, 02:18:59
Before you spent your money, you should come try out my one first, Steve..... :goodjob:

I reckon turning it on or off manually will be the least of your problems... :lol:

Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: 2i30s on June 18, 2011, 06:31:30
is it shite?  :wacko: :whistler:
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: rustynutz on June 18, 2011, 06:45:15
Put it this way, I'm struggling to use it... :-[

You might end up with a cheap GPS yet...lol
Title: Re: GPS Mod.
Post by: 2i30s on June 18, 2011, 07:00:40
Put it this way, I'm struggling to use it... :-[

You might end up with a cheap GPS yet...lol
if you cant work it out, its not really to user friendly!  :disapp: :wacko: the youtube footage of it being used didn't look that hard.  :confused:
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