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Title: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: stevie73m on June 10, 2011, 16:12:50
Hello, I am Stefan from Germany.
I am in the possession of a i30 with the year of construction 2007, 109 horsepower, petrol. Program would like to attach the day driving lights from the accessories.
Can someone say where I in the engine compartment the switched plus (ignition plus) to attach can with? Perhaps also does someone have a picture in addition?
Me much would make happy!

Thank you!

Stefan  :)
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: 2i30s on June 10, 2011, 16:19:25
hi Stefan.  :mrgreen: i cant help you on this matter but I'm sure someone else can.  :goodjob:  i also would like to know the same information. you can buy the lights on eBay if you have a good look.  :idea: :mrgreen: :goodjob:
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Shambles on June 10, 2011, 17:02:54
Hi Stefan from Germany :)

I'm not sure what the rules in Germany (or even Europe) are for day running lights, but in the UK I believe they say that the lights must come on when the engine is started, but go off when the normal lights are switched on.

If that's the same where you live, then you'll need more information than just the accessories circuit.

Anyway, at the moment, I also can't help you locating the required wires.


immer mal im Forum, wie ich bin sicher, dass jemand die Antwort müssen Sie haben (keep checking the forum as I'm sure someone will have the answer you need, I think)
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Dazzler on June 10, 2011, 23:40:11
Welcome Stefan... Can't help you at all sorry  :-[ (I'm just friendly  :mrgreen:)
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: eye30 on June 11, 2011, 10:42:07
Does German motoring law allow you to drive with just side lights on?

If so, do that as a quick fix.
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: syecadelic on August 16, 2011, 23:29:23
Hey there,
simplest way i can think of off the top of my head, is to tap off the side lights, then just install a switch inside ("
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: SandRsSR on September 27, 2011, 15:41:36
I put daytime running lights on my Kangoo van with the idea that I would like to do the i30 later. I used a 5 pin relay, 4 pins are used. 1 to the new lights, 1 to the body (earth) 1 to the park lights and 1 to accesories. The last was the trickiest but on the Kangoo I found a fuse in the engine bay fuse box that only supplied power when the ignition was turned on. This did the trick, the lights come on when the ignition is turned on and go off when the park lights and headlights are on. I am not going ahead with the i30 at this stage as I don't want to tamper with a 5 month old car, but I may have a look one day to try and find the wiring points.
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Alasama on September 28, 2011, 06:53:21
I believe SandRsSR is definitely right. I once read an article about daytime running light installation which satisfied the requirement of "come on when the engine is started, but go off when the normal lights are switched on". It also mentioned a 5-pin relay. However it's not in English.  :lol: It's from one of our domestic forum. For those who familiar with electronics, it could be easy to do so, but I'm just not one of them, and not confident to properly translate all the details. :scared:
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Phil №❶ on September 28, 2011, 07:25:04
The simplest way to achieve the on / off switching would be to use a relay. You can buy relays that either turn on or turn off when they are energized. That said I, would connect this way.

1. Get a power source in the engine bay that energizes when the engine is running.
2. Connect to 1 side of relay Marked NC (Normally Closed).
3. Connect other NC terminal to running lights +
4. Earth the running lights - to a good earth on the car chassis.
           With the ignition on, The lights should be on and the relay is off.

5. On the relay coil connections, connect 1 side to earth.
6. connect the other coil terminal 2 the +wire of your headlamps.
           When the lights are on, the relay is energized and breaks the + contact to the running lights, so they should be off.

Have someone competent do this for you if you're not sure what you're doing & of course include an appropriate fuse.  :happydance:
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Dazzler on September 28, 2011, 12:00:59
Thanks 847563... :goodjob: You can try it first  :lol:
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Phil №❶ on September 28, 2011, 12:05:32
We've only had our cars for a few weeks so not looking to do this,,,,,,,, probably ever! :D
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Green Machine on October 03, 2011, 11:41:28
I just installed some strip LED's on both headlights for a bit of daytime driving light action. Mine go off when high-beam is turned on - better than nothing I guess. I tapped into the headlight wiring. Word of advice, when testing the wires, turn the indicator on. Apparently the headlights use a common power and just earth out when each light is required. The lights came on with side lights, stayed on with headlights, all good - everyone happy. Until indicators go on, then driving lights flash out of sync with indicators and I get extremely agitated.

Redid the wiring and all is now good. Only cost me $30 for the lights at Autobarns (Fat Pizza reference...) and a few bucks for connectors etc. Got some pics for anyone interested.

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/Gemcat16/i30%20Pics/26092011829.jpg)
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/Gemcat16/i30%20Pics/25092011828.jpg)(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/Gemcat16/i30%20Pics/25092011827.jpg)
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/Gemcat16/i30%20Pics/25092011826.jpg)
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/Gemcat16/i30%20Pics/25092011825.jpg)
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/Gemcat16/i30%20Pics/26092011830.jpg)

Pictures don't really do it justice. It looks great in person. Oh, got it working correctly by the way.  FINALLY! :mad:

Cheers,

GM
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Dazzler on October 03, 2011, 11:50:30
Good job GM looks great for what you paid... :goodjob:

Is it legal to have them on with the low beam? or is the last line of your post saying they now go off when headlights on?
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Green Machine on October 03, 2011, 11:56:17
Lights are on with side lights and low beam, but go off with high beam. I'm pretty sure I've seen numerous barges around the place (new territory TDCI, HSV Clubsport, oodles of audi's, Beemers Merc's etc) that drive along all day with their headlights and daytime lights on. I haven't checked the legislation mind you (wouldn't know where to start...), but I guess I'll find out if I get pulled over. :sweating:

GM
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Dazzler on October 03, 2011, 12:31:58
Rusty Nutz is our resident Rules Finder hopefully he will see this thread.. I'm too lazy to go searching at this time of the night.. :undecided:
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: rustynutz on October 03, 2011, 14:27:38
This may help.......  :D

http://www.racq.com.au/motoring/cars/car_advice/car_fact_sheets/daytime_running_lights (http://www.racq.com.au/motoring/cars/car_advice/car_fact_sheets/daytime_running_lights)
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: beerman on October 03, 2011, 14:28:12
I believe ADR 13 is the authority;

In Appendix 6.19.7:

 Electrical connections
The daytime running lamps shall be switched ON automatically when the device which starts and/or stops the engine is in a position which makes it possible for the engine to operate.

 The daytime running lamp shall switch OFF automatically when the front fog lamps or headlamps are switched ON, except when the latter are used to give intermittent luminous warnings at short intervals.



 
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Dazzler on October 03, 2011, 20:09:19
Thanks, so It does appear you are not supposed to have both on together ... :cool:
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Keith on December 17, 2011, 17:09:52
Formerly known as Ffoxy.... Old Thread New Post! Under EU law DRL's & side / headlights must not be on together. I've fitted my L.E.D set & am ready to go, all work, BUT... I cant find a 12volt ignition switched feed & which wire is the sidelight feed?

Car is a 2008 1.6 Premium Petrol by the way.

Hahaha questions questions... Can anyone help?

Cheers... Keith
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Dazzler on December 17, 2011, 21:00:37
Nice to see you back Ffoxy.. Hopefully you will get some helpful answers but please be patient it may take a few days for someone appropriate to see your posts  :goodjob:
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Keith on December 17, 2011, 22:22:40
Nice to see you back Ffoxy.. Hopefully you will get some helpful answers but please be patient it may take a few days for someone appropriate to see your posts  :goodjob:

Cheers Daz, good to be back, the i30 is being just SO good I have had no need for help... but I guess I could have come on & helped others. I've been distracted by an old XT600 Trail bike I bought to rebuild... what a biatch that is! Still I'm back now & patience is a virtue that I am mostly capable of.... cept I REALLY wanna get these lights fully functional! Less than £10 to get together by the way... did I already mention that?
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Dazzler on December 18, 2011, 09:36:14
I'm looking forward to seeing them working too  :happydance:
Title: Re: day driving lights - ignition plus
Post by: Keith on December 18, 2011, 13:40:46
All done! Picked up my ignition controlled 12v from fuse 15 (B/UP) & spliced into the brown 12v feeder wire inside the headlight unit, pretty easy really.

Works as planned so need to get some pics up ASAP!  :happydance:
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