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Title: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: davet on September 18, 2008, 10:32:52
Hyundai OZ site now shows that ESP/TCS is standard on i30 diesel (SX and SLX) and CC standard on SLX.  Also shows new prices ($400 increase for SLX).

Dealer says that my car is scheduled to land in Australia tomorrow Friday 19th..  at last!!!
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: Dazzler on September 18, 2008, 10:43:13
Good news M8.. please keep us in the loop  ;)
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: davet on September 18, 2008, 12:45:03
Thanks Daz - somehow the post got duplicated - can you clean up my mess (couldn't figure out if I could do it myself - I'll blame it on google chrome for the moment..)
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: LuciferDarklord on September 18, 2008, 12:59:00
I spoke to my dealer yesterday, says my car is on the boat in Fremantle and I should have it in a couple of weeks.  Not too bad only waiting 6 weeks or so in total...  Kinda feel a bit guilty after some of the waiting other people have had to endure   :oops:

Only $400 increase with standard ESP, makes a total saving of around $600 - not that it effects me.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: bdennis on September 18, 2008, 13:33:02
The Ship with Cars to Vic docked on Sunday.
My car should be ready by the end of next week. :lol:

If I next it next Friday I will have been waiting 151 days! (5 months)
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: Dazzler on September 18, 2008, 18:51:07
Quote from: "davet"
Thanks Daz - somehow the post got duplicated - can you clean up my mess (couldn't figure out if I could do it myself - I'll blame it on google chrome for the moment..)

Fixed m8... no worries  8-)

Bdennis.. It's good that your long wait is coming to an end... :P
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: camerooney on September 18, 2008, 22:19:16
Hopefully mine will be on one of those ships!
Dealer said it would be ready to pick up first week in October.
 :D
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: Dazzler on September 19, 2008, 04:35:40
Yeah fingers crossed big fella....   :D
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: camerooney on September 19, 2008, 07:47:28
Definitely
 :lol:
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: davet on September 19, 2008, 08:02:13
Quote from: "bdennis"
I ordered after Market CC and Protectz pack. The dealer has credited me the cost of the After mark CC on my order.

You should also get credited the cost of the Protectz Pack, since for the SLX this consists only of ESP/TCS and this is now standard.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: LuciferDarklord on September 19, 2008, 08:56:14
G'Day Dazza - yeah the missus is going to drive the Tucson.  Its sending me broke driving it to work every day, 150km round trip @ 11.5lt/100km.  The route i take - i think i should be able to get some really good mileage from the i30 - will have to wait and see.  I'm not going to bother trying to get a credit on the protecz pack - it woiuld mean re-signing the contract with Orix, and they already gave me a $3k discount so i cant complain.  Might hit them up for some floor mats etc as it wont need a new contract.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: Dazzler on September 19, 2008, 09:53:43
Quote from: "LuciferDarklord"
G'Day Dazza - yeah the missus is going to drive the Tucson.  Its sending me broke driving it to work every day, 150km round trip @ 11.5lt/100km.  The route i take - i think i should be able to get some really good mileage from the i30 - will have to wait and see.  I'm not going to bother trying to get a credit on the protecz pack - it woiuld mean re-signing the contract with Orix, and they already gave me a $3k discount so i cant complain.  Might hit them up for some floor mats etc as it wont need a new contract.

Hope the Diesel lives up to your expectations... I think it will  ;)
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: bdennis on September 19, 2008, 10:08:21
Quote from: "davet"
Quote from: "bdennis"
I ordered after Market CC and Protectz pack. The dealer has credited me the cost of the After mark CC on my order.

You should also get credited the cost of the Protectz Pack, since for the SLX this consists only of ESP/TCS and this is now standard.

Yeh I was thinking that.. I thought the protectz pack was the ESP/TCS plus side air bags.. So if the price of the car has goine up $400 then that should cover the CC. Is there still a protectz pack that has the Air bags or are they std now as well??

I checked the Hyundai web site and it looks like some pages have been updated and some have not. So hard to tell..

Rest assured, I will be askign the question...
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: davet on September 19, 2008, 12:06:59
Protectz pack includes ESP and extra airbags on SX, just ESP on SLX (since full complement of airbags is already installed).  That's why the protectz pack is more on the SX ($1790 vs $990 or something like that)
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: bdennis on September 19, 2008, 23:12:42
Davet,
OK so the theory is (for a SLX).
That the price has increased from the base by $400. But now you get ESP/ TCS & Factory CC as part of the $400 price increase?

If that is the case, then I would think I have paid for the Protectz $990 and I paid $441 (according tot he dealer) for the after market CC, therefore I should also get $990 plus the $441 taken off as I did have a clause in my contract that the price would not increase..

Where on the web site does it state these changes?
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: davet on September 19, 2008, 23:42:56
Just go to the i30 page and it's under "Range and Price" and also "Specifications".  The information apears to be only partly updated - e.g. still says that Protectz pack required to get ESP but lists ESP as a standard feature.  Same with the Specifications - online version is updated, PDF version is still the old one.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: bdennis on September 20, 2008, 02:08:17
OK Ive looked at the web site and compared info I had..

The old rrp for the Auto SLX CRDi was $27,990 (no protectz and No Factoy cc)
The new RRP per the web site for the same is $28,9390 (assuming that the last digit from the web site iw wrong..!) it is $28,939.00 this now includes Protectz and factory cc..

So if I ordered the above car with Protectz and After market cc.. Then effectively im out of pocket for the cc as it looks like the Protectz is included but the price has gone up by $949.. The dealer has already credited the cost of the after market cc. So given that the Protectz was $990 they prob still owe me $51.. So, no big deall..

As a side, it looks like the base SX will also get ESP as standard.. This is a good thing I think as all cars should ahve ESP..
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: LuciferDarklord on September 20, 2008, 04:30:10
These dealers must have been wondering where people were getting all this info from before its official release.  I detected some confusion in the voice of my dealer when i was telling him about CC coming standard, ESP standard and the price changing.  I didnt tell him about this website, but its good that the consumer now has this information
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: davet on September 20, 2008, 05:40:48
I suspect the price should be $28,390 not $28,930 (i.e. $2000 difference for the auto as it is on every other model)
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: CHB on September 20, 2008, 09:38:20
awwww damn! free ESP for all the new SX owners...lucky !!
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: bdennis on September 20, 2008, 11:51:35
Quote from: "davet"
I suspect the price should be $28,390 not $28,930 (i.e. $2000 difference for the auto as it is on every other model)

Mate, that adds an extra twist to it doesnt it..! Thats only $400 increase for cc and ESP/TCS..
Also I noted that Metalic paint has gone up $20 from the original $300..

I will be having another chat with my dealer on Monday re the descrpency..!

Will see how we go.!
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: davet on September 20, 2008, 12:07:05
Keep us posted - I will be having a similar conversation with my dealer I suspect.  So far my dealer says they won't know the situation until they get the invoice from Hyundai.  If they try to charge me for the protectz pack as well as the $400 price increase I'll be tempted to walk away from the deal as a matter of principle.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: davet on September 23, 2008, 09:16:16
Dealer called today to say the shipload of cars scheduled to arrive on Sept 19th had just been changed to October 5th.  At this rate I'll get a 2009 compliance plate.. :cry:
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: EymaTeapot on September 23, 2008, 11:31:46
Hang in there Dave,
It will be worth the wait. :)
I will be looking out for yor car when I am up your way in mid November.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: jayem on September 23, 2008, 12:46:09
Quote from: "davet"
Dealer called today to say the shipload of cars scheduled to arrive on Sept 19th had just been changed to October 5th.

Davet, is that OZ wide or just NSW?  VIC was supposed to have a shipment landing btw 14-16 Sept.  I haven't heard any news from my dealer, so I hope this is a case of "no news is good news" down here.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: davet on September 23, 2008, 14:09:24
Dunno -I assume it is just the one ship (I guess destined for Sydney)
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: bdennis on September 23, 2008, 22:14:01
I can confirm that there was a ship that arrived in Melbourne last Sunday 14th.
I expect my car at the dealer later this week and ready for pick up soon after..

All your dealer needs to do is call Hyundai head office to confirm where your car is and when it will be shipped to the dealer..
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: bdennis on September 24, 2008, 02:44:20
Update..
My car will be ready to drive away on Friday at Noon (or soon there after).

I can also confirm that Factory Cruise control and ESP / TCS is a factory fitted and standard on all CRDi SLX's.
My dealer has wiped off the price of the Protectz pack and the after market Cruise control from my deal..!

The SX will now also come factory with ESP and TCS (But no factory Cruise Control)
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: Dazzler on September 24, 2008, 03:06:57
Quote from: "bdennis"
Update..
My car will be ready to drive away on Friday at Noon (or soon there after).

I can also confirm that Factory Cruise control and ESP / TCS is a factory fitted and standard on all CRDi SLX's.
My dealer has wiped off the price of the Protectz pack and the after market Cruise control from my deal..!

The SX will now also come factory with ESP and TCS (But no factory Cruise Control)

Good news M8... enjoy
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: kinesiologykid on September 24, 2008, 03:41:32
The prices have finally been updated on the Hyundai Australia website.

For the SX diesel its now $400 more but ESP and TCS is standard.
Side and Curtain airbags are $700 extra.

I think the Protectz pack was previously about $1600-$1800 extra which included airbags, ESP and TCS.

So at a minimum the SX is now $500 cheaper.

The SLX diesel  now comes with the lot, and is $3,800 more than the SX.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: jayem on September 25, 2008, 21:25:53
Quote from: "bdennis"
Update..
My car will be ready to drive away on Friday at Noon (or soon there after).


 :lol: I called Hyundai Head office in Melbourne and they confirmed mine has arrived but still on the docks.
Has to go through clearances, so maybe be a couple of weeks yet till I get it.


All the best with your new toy mate
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: eye30 on September 26, 2008, 07:16:46
Quote from: "jayem"
Has to go through clearances, so maybe be a couple of weeks yet till I get it.

Why does it take so long to clear?
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: jayem on September 27, 2008, 07:20:36
I assume it's the volume of cars to be moved eye30...that and paperwork. From what I understand, once the car arrives at the docks, it stays there 3-5 days before being moved to a second location (precar?? I think I heard) where the bond on the car is paid, then it's freighted to the dealer who does the pre-delivery in order for the customer to receive it.  All that can take up to 2 weeks. Long-winded process but that's bureaucracy for ya :)
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: LuciferDarklord on September 28, 2008, 02:00:35
Yeah its been nearly two weeks since mine arrived in Freo.  I dont even know if the dealer has it yet, I'll give him a ring on Tuesday (Long weekend here in WA)  I wish they'd hurry up I have until April next year to do 25000km's or I'll get stung with more fringe benefits tax.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: EymaTeapot on September 28, 2008, 09:00:25
25,000klm by April, it would take me 18 months to clock up that many K's.
You might have to come over and visit some of us i30 owners on the east coast to make up the k's :D .
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: camerooney on September 28, 2008, 09:24:53
Quote from: "davet"
Dealer called today to say the shipload of cars scheduled to arrive on Sept 19th had just been changed to October 5th.  At this rate I'll get a 2009 compliance plate.. :(

Thats not good news.
So much for getting mine in the first week of October.
I'm waiting for exactly the same build Davet. Manual CRDi slx with protectz pack.

 :(
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: CHB on September 29, 2008, 12:09:25
Quote from: "LuciferDarklord"
Yeah its been nearly two weeks since mine arrived in Freo.  I dont even know if the dealer has it yet, I'll give him a ring on Tuesday (Long weekend here in WA)  I wish they'd hurry up I have until April next year to do 25000km's or I'll get stung with more fringe benefits tax.

hahah that'll be a tough ask! i'm guessing you salary sacrificed? I did mine too and i believe when you pick up your car is when your km's start so that 25,000 will be pro rata'd to whats left of the FBT year.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: LuciferDarklord on September 29, 2008, 12:18:35
Yeah I was just reading up about it - looks like it will be pro-rata kilometres. phew!  Cant seem to find anything concrete on ATO website but a few different info pages on novated leases state that it will be calculated on pro-rata.  1st Oct delivery will be 6 months into the FBT year, ie I only need to do 12501km's which will be japan-easy.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: middy on September 30, 2008, 01:09:45
Hi everyone.  I ordered a manual SLX diesel on Sept 20th (Brisbane).  I was told that the next shipment is due in on October 10th.  The dealer was also adamant that the next batch due in would have cruise on the diesel but not the ESP.  He said the Protectz pack was still optional.  I'm hoping he is wrong.  Although, the base price we worked off in the negotiations was $25,990 and not the new $400 more price.  Should I be worried that he is pulling a swifty??
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: jayem on September 30, 2008, 02:37:02
Quote from: "middy"
Hi everyone.  I ordered a manual SLX diesel on Sept 20th (Brisbane).  I was told that the next shipment is due in on October 10th.  The dealer was also adamant that the next batch due in would have cruise on the diesel but not the ESP.  He said the Protectz pack was still optional.  I'm hoping he is wrong.  Although, the base price we worked off in the negotiations was $25,990 and not the new $400 more price.  Should I be worried that he is pulling a swifty??


Hi middi. Welcome to the forum *thumbs up*

It's seems odd that your dealer is saying that your diesel is arriving without ESP.  I am expecting an SLX diesel myself (Melbourne) and I'm pretty sure - from reading this forum + when I spoke to my dealer, that the upgraded model comes with both cruise control (not SX) and ESP as standard.  Dealers can sometimes be clueless, if not "pulling a swifty" as you say.  I would suggest you contact Hyundai head office in your state and get the facts straight from there mate :)

Good luck

Jayem.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: bdennis on September 30, 2008, 03:09:12
Guys,
Have a look at the Hyundai i30 web site. it states that the ESP and TCS is standard across the range and that CC if standard on SLX.
The dealer is WRONG!. The can not charge you for protectz pack as it is no longer an option on cars that are on the boat / at the docks now..

May I suggest that you point him to the Offical web site and point out that he is wrong. The web site was recely updated and Protectz is no longer listed. Check the price tab. The SX still has curtain and side air bags as a $700 option but thats it..! (oh and metalic paint)

If you have Protectz pack on your contract then they need to give you back the money.. Dont expect that full $990 back. As this is RRP.. I got $600 back (Dealer cost)
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: camerooney on September 30, 2008, 04:54:50
Great news fellas...
*cough*

Looks like mine isn't going to be ready until Mid way through November according to the dealer
:(

It was due for this week or next week.

Anyone else been set back?
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: davet on September 30, 2008, 05:42:02
Middy,
get your dealer to look at the Hyundai web site - under "range and price" it clearly states ESP is standard on SX and SLX diesel, and also has the new price.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: middy on September 30, 2008, 06:50:02
There is nothing to refund as I didn't order the Protectz pack anyway.  Let's hope it is on there as standard then.  Another reason that I am suspicious is that I was also looking at Suzuki Grand Vitaras before I settled on the i30.  The Vitara has also had a model update which now has disc brakes all round instead of drums on the rear (on all models).  The dealer was telling me that it was only the petrol models that had the upgraded disc brakes and the diesel model (that I was interested in) was still the same with drum brakes.  This was contrary to the Suzuki website which said it was all models.  I suspect that he just wanted to shift the yard full of old diesel models before the new ones came in.  Hence you can see my suspicion when the Hyundai dealer is telling me that the next batch of diesel i30s will have cruise but no ESP.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: jayem on September 30, 2008, 23:01:56
Hi again middy,

I suspect your dealer is clueless. He can't possibly sell you an older model i30 with cruise as standard but without ESP because it just doesn't exist.  All "older" models of the i30 in the diesel only did not come with cruise control from the factory.  However, just like the petrol the ESP/TCS was an option.....now it is standard on the diesel.

It's interesting to note though, that on the Hyundai webside under i30 range, that only the diesels have been up-specced.  The petrols still require the customer to pay an extra $990 for ESP/TCS.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: jayem on September 30, 2008, 23:04:49
Quote from: "middy"
...Protectz pack anyway....  Let's hope it is on there as standard then.  

...but yes middy, as you have ordered the SLX, you will have ESP/TCS as standard.  Just check out the Hyundai website under the diesel SLX model.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: Dazzler on October 01, 2008, 00:10:27
Hi Middy,

Don't think you've been Welcomed to the club yet...

Nice to have you as a member... hope you enjoy your car and your interaction with our members...
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: middy on October 01, 2008, 02:03:49
Quote from: "dazzling_darryl"
Hi Middy,

Don't think you've been Welcomed to the club yet...

Nice to have you as a member... hope you enjoy your car and your interaction with our members...

Thanks for the welcome.  I did try to post a message in the introductions section last night but when I hit 'submit' I got a message saying I didn't have permission to access 'posting.php' (I think that was the name).
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: middy on October 01, 2008, 02:10:53
Quote from: "jayem"
Quote from: "middy"
...Protectz pack anyway....  Let's hope it is on there as standard then.  

...but yes middy, as you have ordered the SLX, you will have ESP/TCS as standard.  Just check out the Hyundai website under the diesel SLX model.

I saw that before I went in and ordered the vehicle.  That was why I was asking the dealer if he was sure when he said it had cruise but no TCS.  I guess I just found it strange that the dealer didn't know what was on the new model and that set off the alarm bells in my head .  I thought maybe he has an old model that he wants to get rid of and he is going to get an aftermarket cruise fitted and pass it off as an updated model.  (Don't mind me it's just my paranoid mind working overtime)   :)
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: jayem on October 01, 2008, 02:15:56
Quote from: "middy"
 Don't mind me it's just my paranoid mind working overtime  :)


hehe, not at all mate. You have every right to question it.
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: Dazzler on October 01, 2008, 12:34:02
Quote from: "middy"
Thanks for the welcome.  I did try to post a message in the introductions section last night but when I hit 'submit' I got a message saying I didn't have permission to access 'posting.php' (I think that was the name).

Sorry about that Middy we had a glitch on the club last night (never happened before) Even I couldn't post.. but seems ok now...
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: davet on October 04, 2008, 23:50:23
More info on the strike - certainly explains what is happening, just wish Hyundai and it's dealers were a bit more forthcoming in keepin it's (potential) customers informed.

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=18880&vf=1

edit:  duh - didn't read the date...  Looks like it is an annual even though.. (this one's from 2008  :? )

http://www.industryweek.com/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=17408
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: grug on October 05, 2008, 03:04:10
Quote from: "davet"
More info on the strike - certainly explains what is happening, just wish Hyundai and it's dealers were a bit more forthcoming in keepin it's (potential) customers informed.

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=18880&vf=1

It's dated July 29, 2006 though?
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: middy on October 05, 2008, 11:44:47
Quote from: "grug"
Quote from: "davet"
More info on the strike - certainly explains what is happening, just wish Hyundai and it's dealers were a bit more forthcoming in keepin it's (potential) customers informed.

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=18880&vf=1

It's dated July 29, 2006 though?

It's been a long fight, but the workers are finally happy.    :lol:
Title: Re: ESP and Cruise on OZ Diesel - official
Post by: davet on October 05, 2008, 12:40:12
Quote from: "grug"
Quote from: "davet"
More info on the strike - certainly explains what is happening, just wish Hyundai and it's dealers were a bit more forthcoming in keepin it's (potential) customers informed.

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=18880&vf=1

It's dated July 29, 2006 though?

whoops - try this for the 2008 version

http://www.industryweek.com/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=17408
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