[Stuwoolf]

I notice the button on the dash showing a vehicle on a "slippy" road and I presume that is the traction control.

Should there be a visual warning (flashing light on the speedo cluster?) of a lack of grip when the wheels spin?

[ibrokeit]

I notice the button on the dash showing a vehicle on a "slippy" road and I presume that is the traction control.

Should there be a visual warning (flashing light on the speedo cluster?) of a lack of grip when the wheels spin?

Funnily enough I think we just covered that in another topic - though that topic is asking about another problem and includes asking what a certain indicator light in the instrument cluster meant... Dashboard warning light ... of course one thing is it keeps getting referred to as different things... not sure if this due to regional and/or body-type differences in name (though all mean the same thing ESP, ESC, Traction Control, etc.) or just how people refer to it.

Anyway, a slightly amended version from the other topic...

According to the pdf of a GD owners manual - car with wavy lines is the ESC (Electronic Stability Control).   According to page 4-70 in that PDF - it also says when activated (i.e. when it stabilising the vehicle) it will blink.  If it illuminates and stays on - then that indicates a malfunction.

There is also an ESC off indicator (smaller icon with 'off' below it) - but simply indicates if the system is switched off by driver selection/choice.

[Stuwoolf]

I notice the button on the dash showing a vehicle on a "slippy" road and I presume that is the traction control.

Should there be a visual warning (flashing light on the speedo cluster?) of a lack of grip when the wheels spin?

Funnily enough I think we just covered that in another topic - though that topic is asking about another problem and includes asking what a certain indicator light in the instrument cluster meant... Dashboard warning light ... of course one thing is it keeps getting referred to as different things... not sure if this due to regional and/or body-type differences in name (though all mean the same thing ESP, ESC, Traction Control, etc.) or just how people refer to it.

Anyway, a slightly amended version from the other topic...

According to the pdf of a GD owners manual - car with wavy lines is the ESC (Electronic Stability Control).   According to page 4-70 in that PDF - it also says when activated (i.e. when it stabilising the vehicle) it will blink.  If it illuminates and stays on - then that indicates a malfunction.

There is also an ESC off indicator (smaller icon with 'off' below it) - but simply indicates if the system is switched off by driver selection/choice.

Thanks for your response.

I notice the ESC indicators on the instrument cluster.

The indicator with "OFF" only illuminates when the ESC is switched off at the dash. Got that bit.

The other day when taking off on a damp/wet road I was aware of wheel spin. That being the case I would have expected a flashing warning in the instrument cluster. I wasnt aware of such a warning.

Of course, maybe my understanding of Traction Control differs from what Hy are offering? My understanding is when wheel spin takes place a warning will flash/blink in instrument cluster. This may not be what Electronic Stability Control (ESC) is. Maybe ESC and  Traction Control are different things?

Confused......

[asathorny]

Stu, when the traction control kicks in you'll know about it, cos as soon as the engine over revs it will calm down and attempt to share the load between wheel with grip. 

It works a treat on mine, I purposely test it when we get icy weather.   

[Stuwoolf]

Stu, when the traction control kicks in you'll know about it, cos as soon as the engine over revs it will calm down and attempt to share the load between wheel with grip. 

It works a treat on mine, I purposely test it when we get icy weather.   

Thanks.

Just thought there would be some sort of flashing light to indicate whats going on.

Will do a test tomorrow as its gonna be a bit icey

[ibrokeit]

Well I have only noticed the ESP in my FD activate once - we don't get snow/ice here... but in a good storm you can get surface water on roads that, for a puddle, is quite a lot of water - both length and depth... can be a cm or two.

I hit a patch at near 100km/h, and I know I have had a wheel(s) briefly aquaplane in my FD before without noticing the ESP indicator however the car always maintained speed and direction, this time the car did start drifting slightly and as I was very gently steering out of it (it was quite a long patch of water) I noticed the ESP indicator flickering very rapidly - course I was more concentrating on the road than the indicator - but I got the impression it was lighting as an actual activity indicator (like a hardrive or network light flickers as data is accessed) e.g. as a brake on a wheel was applied for micro-seconds, etc.

But that was on an FD - maybe it is different for a GD; or maybe observation was incorrect (being I was watching the road rather than the dash).

[Surferdude]

That's exactly right for an FD ibi.
The flickering indicates it's working.

[ibrokeit]

That's exactly right for an FD ibi.
The flickering indicates it's working.

So now the question is... is it the same behaviour for a GD?

[Stuwoolf]

Still not detecting any indication of TC when having wheel spin.

Maybe its time to contact Hy.

[bumpkin]

I would suspect that the GD will be the same as the Cee'd and can confirm that the Cee'd dash indicator flashes in the same way as the the old FD did.

I was actually very impressed with the Cee'd during the very wet weather which we experienced a few weeks back (the local damage runs into ££hundreds of millions), driving along happily on a major route with CC on and the passenger side was subject to a very deep puddle, the ESC sprang into action and instantly switched off the CC so it could perform it's duty.

When I say instantly, it was cleverer and quicker than me, I didn't know anything about it until I realised the car was slowing down

[Phil №❶]

 

[ibrokeit]

Noce.

And thanks for confirming how it operates, at least in the Cee'd.  I suspect you are right in your suspicions.

[wbm00]

Still not detecting any indication of TC when having wheel spin.

Maybe its time to contact Hy.

I was hoping for some icy weather so I could try this out... please keep us updated.

[Stuwoolf]

The cold and ice at the weekend allowed a proper test.

In a deserted car park the TC light did flash when I floored it. Still dont get any indication of spin in less robust situations.

At least the light works.....

[bumpkin]

I am going to put this out there Stu for you to consider.

I have been driving Hyundai and Kia since 2008, all of them equipped with ESP.

If you go back far enough in the forum posts you will find me enthusing about the ESP and it's effectiveness in very snowy conditions.
In my experience the ESP is excellent and gets on with the job very effectively, as stated earlier look at your rev counter rather than looking for the ESP light flashing (which again in my experience actually doesn't happen very often), you should see the revs being controlled by the system and you should definitely feel it.

Word of caution though - the ONLY time I have felt it kick in was when I was trying to get it to (in an empty supermarket car park), I switched it off and the car just went all over the place, switched it on and it was all so much more controllable.

I would be very surprised with the weight of the i30 itself and the less than ballistic 1.4 petrol engine that you could actually make it activate in weather other than very wet or snowy, it would be more dangerous if it kicked in and bogged down your revs when you were trying to exit a junction in the damp before that 18 wheel truck got through, surely?