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except the ScanGauge11, also o e mailed the ScanGauge supplier Woodgers@ Hornsby but they have not replied so  seems like no garantee with those.
Heya Lakes, I went to Wooders to buy mine but they didn't have any in stock and never called back so I ended up getting one from these guys http://www.ample-outdoors.com.au/ who seem to be the Australian distributors for them. Maybe send them an email as they may be able to help you out.


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except the ScanGauge11, also o e mailed the ScanGauge supplier Woodgers@ Hornsby but they have not replied so  seems like no garantee with those.
Heya Lakes, I went to Wooders to buy mine but they didn't have any in stock and never called back so I ended up getting one from these guys http://www.ample-outdoors.com.au/ who seem to be the Australian distributors for them. Maybe send them an email as they may be able to help you out.

Hi BEZ10y, i e mailed those guy's and they said see woodgers, then got an e mail from woodgers to come up hornsby and  they will give me a new one for mine, so will go up next week.
cheers and thanks, latter i was talking to a guy i know and he said he knows a few people that have got them from Ample-Outdoors .
cheers


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Hi BEZ10y, i e mailed those guy's and they said see woodgers, then got an e mail from woodgers to come up hornsby and  they will give me a new one for mine, so will go up next week.
cheers and thanks, latter i was talking to a guy i know and he said he knows a few people that have got them from Ample-Outdoors .
cheers
Heya Lakes, glad it's all getting sorted out. Maybe Ample gave Woodgers a boot in the bum ;)

I'm pretty pleased with mine, though I can't seem to fix the "----" for the LHK issue even though I've set the TPS up as they describe in the booklet.


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Hi BEZ10y, i e mailed those guy's and they said see woodgers, then got an e mail from woodgers to come up hornsby and  they will give me a new one for mine, so will go up next week.
cheers and thanks, latter i was talking to a guy i know and he said he knows a few people that have got them from Ample-Outdoors .
cheers
Heya Lakes, glad it's all getting sorted out. Maybe Ample gave Woodgers a boot in the bum ;)

I'm pretty pleased with mine, though I can't seem to fix the "----" for the LHK issue even though I've set the TPS up as they describe in the booklet.

Hey Bez10y, i had the LHK working fine, but the diesel does not have TPS as no throtle body with a diesel, i think to get your LHK working right you need to set the % i think Bob said -32% worked and i set mine at that and it seemed fine and about right. just remember when you fill up don't tell it how much just set percentage @ -32% if you have been corecting what the gauge tell's you as it's estimate of what you added in fuel, your correction % could be out a long way and this will efect your LHK. very hard to explain but you will see what i mean if you keep at it, took me a few days.
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Hey Bez10y, i had the LHK working fine, but the diesel does not have TPS as no throtle body with a diesel, i think to get your LHK working right you need to set the % i think Bob said -32% worked and i set mine at that and it seemed fine and about right. just remember when you fill up don't tell it how much just set percentage @ -32% if you have been corecting what the gauge tell's you as it's estimate of what you added in fuel, your correction % could be out a long way and this will efect your LHK. very hard to explain but you will see what i mean if you keep at it, took me a few days.
Good luck and cheers
Thanks Lakes, I'll find Bob's thread and check out what he did. I know he played with it for a bit. Cheers for the reminder :)


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Stock exhaust back on for the last 2,000km economy has gotten worse, 5.1lt/100km now.

Also does not like to rev above 3,000rpm

Oh well.


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total random, but is there a reason as to why there is an offset in the exhaust pipe? like...is it something to do with diesel being heavier (i think) comparatively to petrol?

wow..sounds like thumper got a exhaust that makes his car fly economically  :lol:


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ha, 1 hour later and im threw reading this topic!

awesome read, i was thinking of a few performance mods while keeping the economy pretty good.

i don't get my car till 10/11/08 and im hanging for it everyday!

would it be worth having an in car boost controller? or is it quite accessible under the hood?


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would it be worth having an in car boost controller? or is it quite accessible under the hood?
From reading one of Thumpers posts these turbos regulate boost via vacume pressure, not boost pressure?
(feel free to correct me if i imagined it!)
I dont know of any boost controlers that work on this pricible?


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Had the entire rear section of the exhaust replaced with a free flowing turbo muffler (Straight through) and a 2.5 inch pipe to the back, exiting the exact same location and angle as the factory system. (IE: Looks stock)

when you say 2.5" is that all the way from the cat? can you comment with your pictures in a PM to me exactly what you've done as i want to show it to my exhaust mechanic and get a quote off him for the same job if that's ok :mrgreen:


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I'll take a picture of the part that was made, and what I fit.

It's off the vehicle at the moment, since I am testing to see if the exhaust actually made any difference to economy. (It does)

No problems with anyone copying it.  8-)


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ah k cool, soz for the PM i sent it 10mins ago i wasn't sure if you'd read in here yet.  :D


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Just doing some testing at the moment.

2.5inch mandrel bent exhaust, no mufflers. (From the cat back)

Off boost, subtle growl. (As loud as a XR6 Turbo, factory stock)

On boost, noticeable growl. (Too loud for normal road use. Will get noticed)

On boost with torque boosting fuel maps applied, thumps like a WRX! (Rally car loudness)

So far, with traction issues and playing around with the fuel maps, I think I've found a nice compromise. 4.8lt/100km is the WORST I can get out of the little beast.

3.2lt/100km I have seen with a 200km long economy run.

Now, to tune the exhaust for more, legal, levels.  8)


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Hi again Thumper the scanGauge has an intake air temp so must be reading from stock factory sensor.
i'll see my mate on way home this weekend see if he has time to flow, sometimes its too much trouble mounting things to flow, i think his bench can flow a whole V8 motor intake and exhaust, i've watched him flow test heads and other thing was interesting .
if you e mail Hyundai again could you ask if LPG with diesel is ok. i like the idea as would also be better for enviroment i know a few that run LPG in diesel's that are common rail they inject LPG in with diesel helps atomize and gets a more compleat burn less smoke more economy more power only need a small LPG tank
i had d/gas put on my 05 hilux last year it blew up at xmas time big hole in number 3 piston the lpg cause the piston to get to hot and crack i am trying to get my engine fixed by d/gas aus so be careful


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thank's for that lindlake, could not ever see me having it fitted to the i30 ( have to find room for a gas tank) did the gas fitter warrant his work?
a guy i know has it on a MB Sprinter 2.2 CRTD no trouble, before this back in the 80's i meet a trucker that had LPG & Diesel on a big Kenworth he was testing it for a company told me was only three like it in the world at the time, said he was only allowed to turn on LPG for a short time every so often on the trip from SYD to MELB and Melb TO sYD, said it was a lot faster up hill's with LPG on.


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thank's for that lindlake, could not ever see me having it fitted to the i30 ( have to find room for a gas tank) did the gas fitter warrant his work?
a guy i know has it on a MB Sprinter 2.2 CRTD no trouble, before this back in the 80's i meet a trucker that had LPG & Diesel on a big Kenworth he was testing it for a company told me was only three like it in the world at the time, said he was only allowed to turn on LPG for a short time every so often on the trip from SYD to MELB and Melb TO sYD, said it was a lot faster up hill's with LPG on.

no warrant i am trying insurance i found out after my engine blew up that i should have a turbo temp gauge to keep a eye on the pistons temp


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Sorry to hear that, i would expect a good operator to garantee his work and if you needed to monitor anything i would expect the gas fitter should ensure you know and have the monitoring equipment in place. sounds like water methanole injection could help you too, as this cools intake air charge, have seen it used with superchaging and turbo's.
thanks again for telling me, and good luck.


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nice picture thumper...

oh im back  :P

i'm taking your picture to some exhaust specialists to copy it... how much you pay for it? and fitted? and i remember you said you can fit your stock exhaust back on without hassel, that still the case?


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hey teamgeorge,

firsty, welcome back =D

then...if i remem correctly, thumper had sold his i30 and hasn't visited this forum in...yonks! so if anything, i think the answers you are looking for are on some of his older posts..i think he paid $280 or so and it was exchangeable

some other people have the changed exhaust as well, so hope they can help!


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ha, actually i was here as he had his i30 for sale cos the misses wanted an auto i believe...

and i think i asked the cost 6 months ago cos $280 sounds very familiar.  :lol:

i had my windows tinted 2 days ago and im keen on an exhaust and tuner box put in... i will need to make a pics topic in the other forum tonight if i remember.  :)


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Hi Team George.. Thanks for the PM...

Yes, I got an exhaust crafted a bit like Thumpers and got Midas to match his cost of $280 .. It is not difficult for them to match the original exhaust with thicker pipe and straight through muffler.. and the same mountings...

Glad to hear all is good and you've hit the 5000km without issues.. :D 

Just be warned apart from a bit more sporty exhaust note the performance difference for me was marginal (and no improvement in economy)
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Hey George, like Dazz i had similar ( same diamiter pipe Straight through low restriction muff. a friend of mine that does exhasts made it. i took it off. i thought it went better with it. my friend has it at his workshop, he asked me last service if i wanted it back on i said not yet as i was short of time just wanted the service, takes about 15 mins to change over. if you lived close you could try it.
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Hey George, like Dazz i had similar ( same diamiter pipe Straight through low restriction muff. a friend of mine that does exhasts made it. i took it off. i thought it went better with it. my friend has it at his workshop, he asked me last service if i wanted it back on i said not yet as i was short of time just wanted the service, takes about 15 mins to change over. if you lived close you could try it.
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He's in central Vic .. He could have mine cheap if freight was cheaper...
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yeah i like the idea of it helping the car breath a touch more and that with all the echo friendly emmissions it's producing, performance im not too fussed about i just want it to sound like a tractor.


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performance im not too fussed about i just want it to sound like a tractor.
 

You might be disappointed then.. it doesn't sound like a tractor (thankfully) Maybe a bit like a WRX when under full throttle... :cool:
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I was told it just made a slight resognator sound, that makes sence as muff straight through and you have a catalistic then a resognator between turbo and tail pipe


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I got a 2.5 inch system made up for mine today, tried the straight through first, its very loud above 2000rpm, it turned a few heads when i took it around the block to test it, had them put a high flow muffler on it, its much much quieter however you can feel the turbo kicking in a tiny bit quicker and it has a nice burble to it on idle like a wrx

That in combination with the DPchip it should make a nice difference to the drive up the mountain on saturday!


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nice! took my car in for service today (was also recently reading this thread to see if this is a mod I wanted to do with my loose change or one of my other mods..) and talked to the service guys there. They suggested running a straight 3" from the turbo, but from a couple of posts, that seems too loud but what if you ran a straight 3" pipe to a performance free flowing muffler from the cat back? Is it still too loud then?

Thumper seemed to have tested without the resonator and muffler, but not just without the resonator. (I'm kinda stabbing in the dark and I don't know if the resonator make much difference to the loudness)

So you would say that it was just the turbo kicking in a little earlier after this upgrade?

Also the DPchip looks pretty interesting for an Australian alternative to the ASA Autotechnik tuning box. Possible to ask how much you got it for? They don't seem to quote prices on the site...

DPchip
85kw -> 102kw and 255nm -> 295nm

ASA Eco
85kw ->100kw and 255nm -> 301nm

Thanks! and sorry for all the q's  :-[


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Its definately too loud with a straight through pipe but with a high flow muffler its not that much louder than stock, just a stronger burble when under load inside and a much nicer exhaust note on the outside
Its not going to gain you much power its just going to kick in a bit sooner

As for the DPchip it cost me $1295 fitted, not cheap but i dont mind spending it for their 5 year guarantee if it blows up your engine


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