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but the thread doesn't actually state you DO NEED a piston wind back tool it only shows you how too use one.  :winker:  Asterix has answered our question about  needing one,or should i say NOT needing one.  :goodjob2: :goodjob:

As there's no handbrake mechanism build into the rear callipers like in many other cars, i think this is the reason for not needing to turn/wind the piston back on the i30.

You never need to wind it back in a front brake calliper.

I allways use a polygrip to press back the pistons.

What is a polygrip? - over here it is a fixative to hold false teeth in position :Dunno:
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I used a G clamp when I did the brakes on my bike and old Barina...


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Trev....Hang in there and stand firm....     :goodjob2:   something isn't right.... I think you will find that Hy will comne to some arrngement... if you persist....

 Will follow with interest...

We have 84 K on ours and never has there been any mention of brakes or wear etc in any service ( all by independent garages, not dealers)


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Asterisk, you could be right about the rear calipers sticking under those (light braking) circumstances. But less of an issue over here where they don't need to put anything on the roads to dissolve the snow. And your point could well be relevant as I seem to have forgotten that Trev (not me) is in Scotland.

Phil, you beat me to it regarding the overflow from the master cylinder. Good point.
At the end of the day though, the brakes should be bled after replacing pads and opening the bleed screw when pushing back the caliper is just the first part of getting rid of the fluid which has been nearest the heat of the brakes for the last couple of years.
You should flush the system as per the owners' handbook guidelines. And if you think the sytem is sealed so shouldn't be contaminated, poke your finger into a the reservoir and wipe it along the bottom of the bowl. In almost all cars with  a few tens of thousands of klms on them and no fluid flush, you'll come up with a scarily dirty finger. So the reservoir needs to be cleaned BEFORE you flush the system or you'll end up with gunk lodged in the seals of the calipers.
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Hi Everyone,

Friday came and went and I never received any phone call from my Hy dealer  :disapp:. I guess they were either too busy or thought I might just forget all about it :D Well, not a chance. I'll be on the phone to them 1st thing on Monday morning.

I appreciate all the posts and comments from everyone on here and I am going to persue it with Hy [UK] even if my dealer is unable to as I firmly believe there must be something wrong. I'm pushing for the fix under warranty.

I don't wish to be ungrateful here but am totally at a loss when all you DIY experts talk about pistons and what tools to use. I find it very interesting and wish I had both your confidence and expertise to carry out the job myself but sadly it's a dealer job for me.

Keep up the good work and I'll post back when I hear from Hy.


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Hi Everyone,

Friday came and went and I never received any phone call from my Hy dealer  :disapp:. I guess they were either too busy or thought I might just forget all about it :D Well, not a chance. I'll be on the phone to them 1st thing on Monday morning.

I appreciate all the posts and comments from everyone on here and I am going to persue it with Hy [UK] even if my dealer is unable to as I firmly believe there must be something wrong. I'm pushing for the fix under warranty.

I don't wish to be ungrateful here but am totally at a loss when all you DIY experts talk about pistons and what tools to use. I find it very interesting and wish I had both your confidence and expertise to carry out the job myself but sadly it's a dealer job for me.

Keep up the good work and I'll post back when I hear from Hy.

I relate totally.
I'm a non-DIY type person too.  :goodjob:
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Hi Everyone,

Friday came and went and I never received any phone call from my Hy dealer  :disapp:. I guess they were either too busy or thought I might just forget all about it :D Well, not a chance. I'll be on the phone to them 1st thing on Monday morning.

I appreciate all the posts and comments from everyone on here and I am going to persue it with Hy [UK] even if my dealer is unable to as I firmly believe there must be something wrong. I'm pushing for the fix under warranty.

I don't wish to be ungrateful here but am totally at a loss when all you DIY experts talk about pistons and what tools to use. I find it very interesting and wish I had both your confidence and expertise to carry out the job myself but sadly it's a dealer job for me.

Keep up the good work and I'll post back when I hear from Hy.

Always remember we are here to help if possible. Don't worry about not being mechanically minded. I'll bet you have talents that I don't posses.
Do you have a friend with mechanical knowledge who could assist you, as I find that talking with the service department and discussing problems at an equal level of understanding stops them from telling "trash" and hoping you will accept it. The people I deal with know better than to do that with me, as I've asked questions that even they can't answer. Glad to hear you're not going to give in easily, good luck.  :goodjob2:
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Hi Everyone,

Friday came and went and I never received any phone call from my Hy dealer  :disapp:. I guess they were either too busy or thought I might just forget all about it :D Well, not a chance. I'll be on the phone to them 1st thing on Monday morning.

I appreciate all the posts and comments from everyone on here and I am going to persue it with Hy [UK] even if my dealer is unable to as I firmly believe there must be something wrong. I'm pushing for the fix under warranty.

I don't wish to be ungrateful here but am totally at a loss when all you DIY experts talk about pistons and what tools to use. I find it very interesting and wish I had both your confidence and expertise to carry out the job myself but sadly it's a dealer job for me.

Keep up the good work and I'll post back when I hear from Hy.

I relate totally.
I'm a non-DIY type person too.  :goodjob:

Dave you have to be pulling our legs surely,all those cars and not DYI.

Trev don't sweat it not being DYI,as others have said we are here to try and assist in any way we can,there many things I can't do either where I need a lot of help from others,computers for a start.

If you don't get statisfaction by going to either the dealer or HY UK,do you have a consumer onsbudsman,or consumer affairs over that way,informing non co-operative suppliers with these PPL over here tends to work a treat when all else fails
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No, actually, I'm really not.
If something needs doing above cleaning & detailing or something really simple, it gets out-sourced by me.  :)
Having said that, I'm quite good at diagnosing problems and knowing what is wrong with a car, just not at fixing it.
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...all those cars and not DYI.

If that means "Do Yourself In" then yes, he does that :P
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No, actually, I'm really not.
If something needs doing above cleaning & detailing or something really simple, it gets out-sourced by me.  :)
Having said that, I'm quite good at diagnosing problems and knowing what is wrong with a car, just not at fixing it.

Dave Your 60% the way there diagnosing the problem is the hard part,I have come across many many PPL who tend to guess,the rest is knowing how to swing the spanner,being methodical,logical and thourough,mind you I hate doing transmission work,still haven't fixed the ol wagon yet.
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No, actually, I'm really not.
If something needs doing above cleaning & detailing or something really simple, it gets out-sourced by me.  :)
Having said that, I'm quite good at diagnosing problems and knowing what is wrong with a car, just not at fixing it.

Dave Your 60% the way there diagnosing the problem is the hard part,I have come across many many PPL who tend to guess,the rest is knowing how to swing the spanner,being methodical,logical and thourough,mind you I hate doing transmission work,still haven't fixed the ol wagon yet.

Some people are hands on, some people aren't.
I'm not.
But having driven cars of all types, including high performance cars, for as many years as I care to remember, I do generally have a pretty good idea what noises are and what is wrong with a car.
But that doesn't mean I'm competent to fix it. I know my limitations.  :)
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Some people are hands on, some people aren't.
I always work on the idea that if I don't understand something I learn it by reading up on it but if it has bolts or screws on it I just pull it apart.


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"Always remember we are here to help if possible. Don't worry about not being mechanically minded. I'll bet you have talents that I don't posses."

Well, I'm pretty good at putting the cat out at 1 in the morning when it's snowing and going back to bed with a clear conscience :lol: :lol:


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"I always work on the idea that if I don't understand something I learn it by reading up on it but if it has bolts or screws on it I just pull it apart."

Maybe Pip........... But it's brakes we're talking about here. Not too sure if the wife's life insurance is up to date  :whistler:


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What is a polygrip? - over here it is a fixative to hold false teeth in position :Dunno:

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Hi Everyone,

Friday came and went and I never received any phone call from my Hy dealer  :disapp:. I guess they were either too busy or thought I might just forget all about it :D Well, not a chance. I'll be on the phone to them 1st thing on Monday morning.

I appreciate all the posts and comments from everyone on here and I am going to persue it with Hy [UK] even if my dealer is unable to as I firmly believe there must be something wrong. I'm pushing for the fix under warranty.

I don't wish to be ungrateful here but am totally at a loss when all you DIY experts talk about pistons and what tools to use. I find it very interesting and wish I had both your confidence and expertise to carry out the job myself but sadly it's a dealer job for me.

Keep up the good work and I'll post back when I hear from Hy.

Hi Trev

Correct me if wrong, but isn't this the dealer who told you that "dust from the discbrakes caused the excess wear"

If so, I would never trust them again. As Trev (Surferdude) said, that's a load of bullsh1t.
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Hi Asterix,

"Correct me if wrong, but isn't this the dealer who told you that "dust from the discbrakes caused the excess wear"

Yep - Thats my main franchised Hyundai dealer that I bought the car from and had serviced by them for the past 3 years. Doesn't really inspire confidence, does it ????


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Hi Asterix,

"Correct me if wrong, but isn't this the dealer who told you that "dust from the discbrakes caused the excess wear"

Yep - Thats my main franchised Hyundai dealer that I bought the car from and had serviced by them for the past 3 years. Doesn't really inspire confidence, does it ????

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What is a polygrip? - over here it is a fixative to hold false teeth in position :Dunno:


They're "multigrips".
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I've always called them plumber's pliers. I have a pair in my toolbox and I mainly use them for plumbing. :)


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What is a polygrip? - over here it is a fixative to hold false teeth in position :Dunno:


They're "multigrips".

Multi/poly... isn't it the same.. :question:

From  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/poly-

poly-

comb. form meaning "many, much," from Gk
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I've always called them plumber's pliers. I have a pair in my toolbox and I mainly use them for plumbing. :)

This is what we call a plumbers plier:

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What is a polygrip? - over here it is a fixative to hold false teeth in position :Dunno:


They're "multigrips".

Multi/poly... isn't it the same.. :question:

From  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/poly-

poly-

comb. form meaning "many, much," from Gk
Agreed. It's just that in Oz, they seem to have always been called "multigrips"  At least by people I've known over the years.
To me "poly" relates to a type of plastic. Just another example of useage in different parts of the world.  :goodjob2:
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"Poly", over here, is a common name for a parrot :P



(or someone who puts kettles on)
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"Poly", over here, is a common name for a parrot :P



(or someone who puts kettles on)
So, you have plastic birds?  :disapp:
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Just as well we're not all working in the same garage, imagine, "Can someone hand me the poly, multigrips, plumbers pliers, please."  :rofl:

BTW they're multigrips to me.  :mrgreen:
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Then you have "Vise" grips.

And "shifting spanners"

With one of each there's no need for a range of different sized spanners. :whistler:
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