[rustynutz]

BY MARK HINCHLIFFE
8 SEP, 2016

A NSW police officer who was charged for allegedly throwing “an object” at a motorcycle rider and causing him to crash has appeared in court for mention.

The incident occurred while the specialist command Senior Constable was performing random breath tests on Hannahs Road at Narwee, in Sydney, on Friday, November 6, 2015.

It will be alleged the officer was seen throwing an object at the rider, causing him to crash and suffer minor injuries.

He was charged with ‘intentionally throw object at vehicle / vessel – risk safety’.

The officer appeared yesterday in Bankstown Local Court and the matter was held over to September 13 in the Sutherland Local Court.

No more details such as names are available and the matter cannot be discussed as it is before the courts, but we will follow up next week.

Source: Cop in court for throwing object at rider - Motorbike Writer

[Dazzler]

In a counter claim the Policeman said.." The Motorcyclist threw himself at the object I just let go of... " 

[The Gonz]

There's been some leaking of tapes of the preliminaries. On them the policeman is claiming the action was not of his doing. Apparently it was some new autonomous Low Observability Law-enforcement Ornithopter. This explains why the 'object' is very shrewdly not described. However, the policeman is clearly heard referring to it by its acronym: "L. O. L. O." 

[Doggie 1]

It would be interesting to see the court transcript.
My "guess" is the bike rider failed to stop when directed to, but I guess time will tell.

[Doggie 1]

I just had a look online and here is the video.
Motorbike blasts through police checkpoint - Gets sign thrown at head. - YouTube
The motorcycle rider was travelling at speed with no intention of stopping (gee, I wonder why?  ) and no concern for the safety of police officers or members of the public.
As always, two sides to the story.
In WA suburban streets the speed limits are 50 km/h. I don't know if it would 50 or 60 over there.
I am considered an expert witness by the courts in WA in relation to estimating the speeds of moving vehicles and if he wasn't doing 90 prior to reaching the RBT, I'll go west.
The police officer would have been charged to appease the media and screaming public.
Watch the video. The police officer had to jump out of the way to avoid being hit and possibly killed.
If you watch closely, you can see the speed the bike is travelling at as it approaches the RBT which is obviously in a suburban street.
I hope the police officer is acquitted and the motorcycle rider gets the book thrown at him.
I'd like to see a member of the public be happy to stand in the way of a motorbike doing ninety km/h and not take some action.
But the armchair critics always know best.      

[Shambles]

I hope .. the motorcycle rider gets the book thrown at him.

Did you mean to say that?

Having seen the video I commiserate with the copper, but not to the extent of throwing an object at the rider

[Doggie 1]

I hope the police officer is acquitted and the motorcycle rider gets the book thrown at him.

Did you mean to say that?

Having seen the video I commiserate with the copper, but not to the extent of throwing an object at the rider

 

I would have thrown something at him.
It would be an instinctive move and he probably did the public a favour by causing him to crash, considering the speed the bike was travelling at.
I have absolutely no issue with the throwing of an object at the rider at all.
In fact, I would consider it a good move to try to stop the rider as someone else further down the road could have been injured by that numbat.
I've done it myself on more than one occasion.
If a moron like that comes through an RBT and almost cleans up one or more of your troops, you do what you can to stop him.
If he was not driving recklessly there would be no issue.
It was a great shot.   

[CraigB]

I would have pushed him off, I wouldn't last long in the force

[Doggie 1]

I would have pushed him off, I wouldn't last long in the force

I lasted thirty one years!   

[CraigB]

I would have pushed him off, I wouldn't last long in the force

I lasted thirty one years!   

Did you get out just before the Tasers came in Dave? I don't think I could resist the urge

[Doggie 1]

I would have pushed him off, I wouldn't last long in the force

I lasted thirty one years!   

Did you get out just before the Tasers came in Dave? I don't think I could resist the urge

No, I was in with the tasers.

[asathorny]

A wire rope, at neck height, strung between two lamp posts usually does the trick with t**ts like that 

[beerman]

Guessing the 'poor bike rider' never faced any charge for his efforts......

[rustynutz]

Not condoning the motorcyclists actions in any way, he deserves whatever punishment the Courts dish out to him but seriously, that sign could have caused the rider to plough into the side of any one of those stationary cars, in the process possibly injuring or killing an innocent bystander.

So here's hoping they both cop more than a slap on the wrist... 

[rustynutz]

A wire rope, at neck height, strung between two lamp posts usually does the trick with t**ts like that 

 

[AlanHo]

Not condoning the motorcyclists actions in any way, he deserves whatever punishment the Courts dish out to him but seriously, that sign could have caused the rider to plough into the side of any one of those stationary cars, in the process possibly injuring or killing an innocent bystander.

So here's hoping they both cop more than a slap on the wrist... 

 

[eye30]

And it was raining which in it self may have made the road slippy

[beerman]

Looks more like a ticket book to me, when you slow it down you can see the pages flapping as it lands.

Yes it would appear they both did the wrong thing.

Unfortunately only one will face any punishment.

[rustynutz]

Yeah, the bike rider.... 

[CraigB]

Yeah, the bike rider.... 

With any luck as he's the dangerous fxxxwit on the road, all the cop has done is flick a piece of paper at him

[rustynutz]

I've never seen a piece of paper bounce and skate across a road like that before! 

The copper discharged a projectile which, in the circumstances, could have caused an accident.
If a member of the public did that they would also be charged, so why should it be any different?
Oh, that's right,in some people's eyes coppers should be allowed to do whatever they like... 

[Surferdude]

Looks like a pad of tickets to me.

Obey the law and nothing happens.

And if that object caused him to crash, then he shouldn't be riding in the first place.

[rustynutz]

The copper didn't obey the law, hence him facing Court... 

I really gotta laugh at some people's logic, 2 wrongs don't make it right.

The motorcyclist was in the wrong, the cop was in the wrong...

[The Gonz]

There's no arguing your truth, Russell.

[Surferdude]

The copper didn't obey the law, hence him facing Court... 

I really gotta laugh at some people's logic, 2 wrongs don't make it right.

The motorcyclist was in the wrong, the cop was in the wrong...

Well if you apply that logic, there's be no police chases at all, because they couldn't speed, couldn't go through a red light in an emergency and probably a hundred other things in which they break the law trying to make the world a safer place for the rest of us.
Personally, I'm happy for a cop to throw something at me or mine if we create a danger to other innocent people.

[The Gonz]

These debates are interesting but they often show confusion between the distinction of right and wrong and legal and illegal. Any lawyer will quickly confirm they're not the same thing.

[FatBoy]

Agree with Gonz on this.  Just a point, it is not illegal for a policeman doing their duty to speed, run red lights, talk on the phone, etc.  Under the road rules they are permitted to do these things.  I don't believe that they are allowed to throw things at motorcyclists (or anybody for that matter).  Therefore, from the outside, it looks like BOTH have done something illegal.  Prosecute both, let the courts decide whether it was legal or illegal.

[CraigB]

I've never seen a piece of paper bounce and skate across a road like that before! 

It's definitely a piece of thick paper/cardboard, it doesn't bounce either as if you look closely when it drops to the road it actually floats across the road surface.

Maybe the cop shouldn't have thrown the paper as it could be classed as a distraction but "hey, it's a piece of paper "

The fact that you seem to search out articles to continually attack anything the police do Rusty is getting rather boring and it really seems that you have something against them to me did you get a fine once and then decided to wage war on all police

[Doggie 1]

The copper discharged a projectile which, in the circumstances, could have caused an accident.
If a member of the public did that they would also be charged, so why should it be any different?
Oh, that's right,in some people's eyes coppers should be allowed to do whatever they like... 

Rusty.
Everyone does something wrong every day, to the letter of the law. Let's face it.
You do, I do, everyone does.
But at some point, surely we have to ask what is the "right" thing to do for the betterment of society as a whole.
Blind Freddie can see that the motorcyclist is the villain here.
Not only was he travelling at 90 km/h plus in a 50 km/h speed zone, but he also nearly ran over a police officer(s) as he evaded police.
Let me remind you, in case you had missed it, that it wasn't too long ago that a motorcyclist who failed to stop at an RBT ran over a police officer and actually seriously injured that police officer, who had his leg amputated as a result of that motorcyclist's irresponsible actions.
But back to this incident. After failing to stop at the RBT station, he then again failed to stop for police and engaged in a pursuit that the police actually terminated as they considered it posed a danger to the public.
The bike rider didn't terminate it. The police did. Read the news reports.
Then shortly afterwards, police were called to a crash involving the same motorcyclist, who had collided with a car, as he continued his reckless driving.
So, did he he stop then?
No, he ran from the scene, failing to stop, failing to render assistance to anyone who might have been injured, etc, etc, etc.
The police subsequently located him at his home address and following breath and urine tests, charged him with various offences.
So not only did he endanger everyone who was in the vicinity of that RBT station, police and public alike, but he also endangered other road users, car drivers, passengers, pedestrians, etc, etc.
Then he continued on, endangering many other other road users and then failed to stop for the police who tried to stop him, causing the police to abort the pursuit due to the dangers posed by the motorcyclist.
After that, he collided with another car and the police subsequently attended at that crash scene. The crash scene from which the motorcyclist had fled, not bothering to check if anyone was injured.
And yet you are focussed on the police officer (who was endangered by this cockhead) and who threw something at him, in an attempt to stop him from riding on and causing an accident. Which he actually did.
I really do think that the police did the right thing in trying to stop him at that point and contrary to some viewpoints expressed here, I do not agree that both should be charged.
The motorcyclist is the villain.
The police officer is the protector.
I actually do see the difference.
But to appease the media and those in society who question every single action police officers take, he was charged.
It will be interesting to see the outcome.
Personally, it makes me smile that those who are so, so fast to criticise the police at every opportunity, are the very ones who have never put themselves in the firing line.
I support our police (and our military) every time, over armchair critics who have never done anything more dangerous than take the garbage out.

[rustynutz]

You two make a great tag team...

Craig, at the end of the day it doesn't really matter what the cop threw, the facts are he has been charged (and not by me...lol) with intentionally throwing an object at a vehicle...

As for having anything against cops? I can only repeat what I've said elsewhere on this forum, I have no issue with police (as long as they don't take the law into their own hands)...there is no war against them.

Oh, and you'll be happy to know I have never ever received a fine in all my 39 years of driving cars and riding motorcycles.


Now to Dave... 

How about dismounting from that high horse of yours, Dave!   

Geez, and people accuse me of ramming my opinions down peoples throats... 

Have a good night...