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I just dropped the Wife off in her 2008 i30 CRDI and noticed a knock on the steering. I read on another thread that there had been a recall Hyundai Motor Company Australia Pty Ltd?Hyundai i30 (FD) Vehicle | Product Safety AustraliaI rang the local dealer where we purchased the car and they said to bring it in next week as they can't look at it until after easter. Anyway I decided to take a closer look and could feel the play in the steering and knocking both when engine running and not running. First of all I drove the car up on ramps but nothing much to see as steering shaft etc mostly sealed. Then I discovered the universal joint on the inside below the steering wheel after pulling the carpet back a little, with a powerful torch I watched the UJ while I rocked the steering wheel and could 'see the play' on the splines and the upper shaft turning but not the lower due to the play. The 12mm bolt looked tight enough but when I got a socket on it i got a quarter of a turn and guess what no more play or knocking. So it appears that even though my VIN is outside of the range mentioned in the recall notice I had an correctly torqued bolt or worn splines. I will keep a close eye on it as its fairly accessible but just wanted to mention this in case others have similar issues. CheersMark
The recall is for a rubber bush in the steering column. I have replaced a few. On my wife's 2009 FD did it twice. Seems that the replacement bush you get from the dealer is not always made from the 'improved' rubber.The knock is a bit hard to locate and you tend to suspect the uni joint area, but it is not really prone to wear.If it is the bush, it will have disintegrated. The knock will be greater when the power steer is engaged.
I have a copy of the TSB# HFE08-61-P020-FDHD (14 page PDF)Should be on here somewhere?
Been away. You seem to have it all now . Gerard the bush in the picture is still in good shape compared to the last one I did.It appears that Hyundai used this $5 bush in most of their models sold in Euro, Oz and USA.I have seen blogs claiming the knock is in the steering rack, uni joint, etc etc. The source is really hard to pin down.
But at 40K, that rack may not have had the bush changed. For all the effort and $5 I would replace it anyway. Also you will need to reset the 'electronic centre' or else ESP will not function.You can overcome a need to reset centre if you mark the TDC of the column when you get the steering wheel off and mark to refit the uni shaft to the same position on the steering rack spline.The bush replacement is quite simple, (10 minutes) the removal and refit of the column is 2hrs of contortion .
I found this on U Tube It gives you some idea of the area on the power steer, but for some reason, he tries to work on it under the dash(he's a Pom ).There is a better one , but I cant find it, that was done by a Canadian bloke. Therefore, he is quite practical and intelligent. If you don't pick the Canadian accent, you know he isn't American because he does not wear gloves, safety goggles, a cap or a dustcoat. In my opinion, he has the sense to unplug the motor and undo the 12mm shaft to rack bolt ; then do the bush change on a workbench.
Thought I would update this topic because it does recur quite often. I have a 2010 FD with 118,000km on the clock. It had a very slight play in the steering. A knocking sound seemed to be coming from the uni shaft going through the floor into the steering rack. I would expect much more play and noise if it was the rubber bush, but decided to check anyway. Good Choice.
Yes I can understand that. I posted this because it was far more damaged than I expected, given the minor rattle.
Sorry. I wasn't playing, " mines bigger than yours".
Here is one for our resident techies:-What actually makes this bush degrade?Is it:-*time*amount of km travelled*amount of city driving (involving lots of steering input) as opposed to open road driving*repeatedly turning the steering wheel whilst the wheels are stationary*something elseI have read somewhere that there is a newish/improved bush that supposedly lasts longer. Is this true...and if so, how much more durable is it than the original one. How can this more durable bush be identified?
Quote from: Paolo5 on October 15, 2017, 23:19:04Here is one for our resident techies:-What actually makes this bush degrade?Is it:-*time*amount of km travelled*amount of city driving (involving lots of steering input) as opposed to open road driving*repeatedly turning the steering wheel whilst the wheels are stationary*something elseI have read somewhere that there is a newish/improved bush that supposedly lasts longer. Is this true...and if so, how much more durable is it than the original one. How can this more durable bush be identified?Interesting question.One would only hope that Hy has recognized the issue and developed a more durable item.It's been a problem since very early in the FD existence.And, as most cars now have EPS, do other manufacturers have a similar bush? (not suggesting they're interchangeable, just be interesting to know how their compound compares with Hy's).
*time*amount of km travelled*amount of city driving (involving lots of steering input) as opposed to open road driving*repeatedly turning the steering wheel whilst the wheels are stationary*something else how much more durable is it than the original one. How can this more durable bush be identified?