[Surferdude]

Hi Trev,

Can you get that scan any clearer please.. Don't know about anyone else but I haven't got a hope of reading it...

Sorry Daz, I have a clearer pic somewhere in my ex work files but that came from a website somewhere.
However the story is (and this was back in the late 60's or early 70's, that the Swedish tyre fitter was inflating a truck tyre using a clip on chuck - which you wouldn't do today unless it was attached to an in-line safety cut off) and went to answer the phone. Just as he returned to the job and bent over to check the pressure, it exploded. The ceiling he is imprinted on was 12' high and you can see the result of the impact on his skull.
Most, if not all shops today would also have a cut-off limit on their air compressor but it would be set at a figure for truck tyres so can still have a dramatic impact (!) on a car wheel. I've seen the results of some explosions. Scary stuff. Also know of several deaths in the industry in Qld over the years.

[Surferdude]

100psi+ is normal on a racing bike. I definitely wouldn't use a service station pump to inflate them, plus it'd be the wrong valve type.

Thanks for that. Not experienced with racing bikes. I know the valve type though. Most road bikes have car type valves these days, at least in Oz and most of the tubes we imported from China were the same.
BTW. If you put a SS air hose over that racing type valve and apply the air, it will force itself in.

[Dazzler]

Thanks Trev from your description maybe it was better not too clear...

[asathorny]

When I was in the final stages of labour to give birth to my new baby I almost changed to Ford Fiesta...  I had a lie down in a darkened room and came to my senses 

The guy at Ford opened the boot (trunk) and in the spare wheel well was puncture repair outfit...  and I little inflater devise which one was supposed to attach to the cigarette lighter. 

I was totally unimpressed by this and could immediately see the potential for, what we technically call, a cock-up leaving you FUBAR in some remote place.   

1..  If you battery was a bit on the low side, it no workie
2.. If your a bit inept (like me) and haven't attached the nozzle thingy to the wheel thingy properly, you'd loose the repair fluid, then again. it no workie.

I think one had the option to buy a proper spare wheel, but that would require handing over rather a lot of beer tickets to the man.

The reasoning behind this was apparently a weight issue, in that it made the care go 2 tenths of a mile further on every hundred gallons of fuel which moving the car into a different UK tax bracket....

I have the get you home wheel and since I live where the tar on the road seldom melts, I'm OK with that, I do however take you point. 

All you convicts out there in the prison colonies must have be very careful not to get stranded out in the those dangerous open spaces...  So I see see your concerns.

The idea of a spare wheel is obvious. It's to make repairing a puncture on the road redundant. Originally, the only option was to strip out the tube and vulcanise a patch over the hole and then reassemble it all, pump it up with the carried pump and hope you hadn't pinched the tube during the process and need to start all over again.

How easy it was to just swap the wheel and then repair the puncture at home or even have someone else to fix it So began the age of useless drivers.

I guess since then there have been a few different tries at solving the problem which goes back to the beginning of car time and currently there are three options: Full-sized wheel; wheel-barrow wheel; squirter bottle.

The full-sized spare wheel so often is nothing but a 5th tread to wear out because tyre technology has advanced to the point where tyres really don't puncture any more. The other options are just sensible options given the times modern tyres fail.

Having said that, I say: what is the downside of having a full-sized spare that fully covers all situations when a tyre goes flat? Slight lack of space?

Any time!

[Dazzler]

This convict is pleased you bought the i30 intead of the Ford...

[asathorny]

I am, in reality jealous of our convict cousins out there, bathed in warm sunshine, it supposed to be spring here and I am still shivering,  not to mention running my central heating AAAAAAAAAAaaaaggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Lorian]

I quite liked the look of the fiesta but the small boot was impractical, and the rear seats don't fold flat. A complete no-no for me as I need good level space back there. Plus the local Ford dealer is the worst dealership I have EVER visited. Oh and there was the plasticky dash that looked like a 1990 nokia phone, and the fact they wanted extra for aircon. 'nuff said.

[asathorny]

Yeppers,,,, you summed up my sentiments entirly...  we both got the good deal 

[penak]

I quite liked the look of the fiesta but the small boot was impractical, and the rear seats don't fold flat. A complete no-no for me as I need good level space back there. Plus the local Ford dealer is the worst dealership I have EVER visited. Oh and there was the plasticky dash that looked like a 1990 nokia phone, and the fact they wanted extra for aircon. 'nuff said.

Besides, Fiesta is equivalent to i20, not to i30. Except on price perhaps
i30 is C-class, like Golf, Focus, Octavia, and Auris.

[Dazzler]

I checked out the fiesta a few months ago (after another member had the cheek  to say something nice about it )

It felt very narrow and "squeezy" to me.. 

[2i30s]

most of us with mag wheels would like a mag wheel as a spare,but it wouldn't fit in the spare wheel well. a space saver is about 3" wide and a full size spare is usually around 5.5" wide.my mag wheels are 7.5" wide so it wouldn't even fit. 

[Dazzler]

most of us with mag wheels would like a mag wheel as a spare,but it wouldn't fit in the spare wheel well. a space saver is about 3" wide and a full size spare is usually around 5.5" wide.my mag wheels are 7.5" wide so it wouldn't even fit.  

 

Like most Aussie SLX owners (and SR owners) I got a matching Alloy spare...

[2i30s]

and it fits in the spare wheel space without a bulge in the floor.

[Dazzler]

and it fits in the spare wheel space without a bulge in the floor.

Yep, although there was a bit of a "bulge" when I first found it...

[2i30s]

 

[diablo]

Logically it is better to have a space saver - except if you are in the Australian outback of course. I don't do rough tracks and 50 degree temp roads in the UK very often. 

It saves weight and therefore aids fuel consumption - not by a lot, but over thousands of miles it adds up. Plus if you have an alloy spare it is easy to forget to have the duff tyre mended if you put it in the boot - the spacesaver is a continual annoyance and forces you to have it fixed soon.

In my opinion.

[Surferdude]

Logically it is better to have a space saver - except if you are in the Australian outback of course. I don't do rough tracks and 50 degree temp roads in the UK very often. 

It saves weight and therefore aids fuel consumption - not by a lot, but over thousands of miles it adds up. Plus if you have an alloy spare it is easy to forget to have the duff tyre mended if you put it in the boot - the spacesaver is a continual annoyance and forces you to have it fixed soon.

In my opinion.

Sorry Diablo, cannot see any logical reasoning for a space saver. The difference in fuel consumption is, as you say, minimal but the increase in danger is immense.
And, if you need to have an odd looking wheel on the car to remind you to get a flat fixed, you shouldn't be allowed on the road.
Don't take this personally. I just have a thing about irresponsible car drivers and their lack of vehicle maintenance.

[eye30]

The space saver tyre is just a Temporary, with a capital T, tyre.

If deployed, the removed tyre should be repaired or replaced ASAP and not say some 2 weeks later.

It is for emergency use only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!