[eye30]

When the car was MOT'd today at an indeprndent I asked for a price for the 3 year service and they quoted £15 less than the dealer.

Unclear as to the oil speci, mine need C3, as the priced seemed low. So if the wrong oil quoted then price about same as dealer.

Also, the dealer provides a courtesy car free of charge, just pay for fuel, the independent doesn't.  So that worth at least £15 - £20 for 1 day hire.

[Argus]

In Poland average price for the 30 000km / 1 year service CRDI it will cost about 700 PLN(=175EUR=250AUD). Including oil 5W30 Shell or Castrol, oil filter and climate control air filter.

[babis_xo]

For the first annual service: 155€ (222 Aus, 127 £)
Includes the... unacceptable BP visco 3000 (Part synthetic, 10w-40, ACEA A3/B3)

[Dazzler]

For the first annual service: 155€ (222 Aus, 127 £)
Includes the... unacceptable BP visco 3000 (Part synthetic, 10w-40, ACEA A3/B3)

Did you point this out to them.. they need to fix at their expense!!!

[babis_xo]

For the first annual service: 155€ (222 Aus, 127 £)
Includes the... unacceptable BP visco 3000 (Part synthetic, 10w-40, ACEA A3/B3)

Did you point this out to them.. they need to fix at their expense!!!

I didn't realize it at first.
Nevertheless, i don't think that they'll admit this as a fault. Viscosity (10w-40) seems the right choice for hot weather and noone^(*) constrains them from using part-synthetic or crappy oils (well, i should but i didn't bother...)

^(*) or i think so...

[snowcherry]

just had my 15000km

AU$133 inc parts and labour
did buy my own oil though

nb: they didn't perform the wheel rotation so not sure if that affected the price

[eye30]

nb: they didn't perform the wheel rotation so not sure if that affected the price

I would expect that this would take a max of 10 minutes, if that, assuming the car is up on the ramp and all wheels are "suspended"

A few bucks at most!!!

[agentr31]

yer any reason they didnt do a rotation?

[2i30s]

and another point snowcherry, i wonder how they checked the brakes at 15.000kms if the wheels weren't removed.  

[snowcherry]

well they didn't do them because they couldn't find the wheel locks (which were in the car the whole time but they didn't bother calling me to ask where they were)
but as i'd had the wheels rotated about a month prior i let it go. (didn't realise it was on the 15000 eh well)
not sure about the brakes though 

[LuciferDarklord]

My 60K is up tomorrow, $575.  One other dealer I called wanted $750!!  My steering rattle is very bad now and I think my glow plug fuse has blown  I'm not going to take my car back until they have fixed the steering as last time they replaced a shaft that did nothing.

[Mutley]

just had my 15000km

AU$133 inc parts and labour
did buy my own oil though

nb: they didn't perform the wheel rotation so not sure if that affected the price

That's a very good price, I'm impressed! I rang 3 different dealers for a quote on the 15000km service.

Keystar: $312 with oil, ~$200 without
Zupps: $330 with oil, ~$270 without
Marooka: $297 with oil, $193 without

[Dazzler]

just had my 15000km

AU$133 inc parts and labour
did buy my own oil though

nb: they didn't perform the wheel rotation so not sure if that affected the price

That's a very good price, I'm impressed! I rang 3 different dealers for a quote on the 15000km service.

Keystar: $312 with oil, ~$200 without
Zupps: $330 with oil, ~$270 without
Marooka: $297 with oil, $193 without

..
Snowcherry has got the SR (2.0ltr PETROL model..) that would be the difference..

[Mutley]

ahhhh gotcha

[Surferdude]

well they didn't do them because they couldn't find the wheel locks (which were in the car the whole time but they didn't bother calling me to ask where they were)
but as i'd had the wheels rotated about a month prior i let it go. (didn't realise it was on the 15000 eh well)
not sure about the brakes though 

No trouble checking brake pad wear through the alloy wheels.

[Surferdude]

just had my 15000km

AU$133 inc parts and labour
did buy my own oil though

That IS a good price.
Mine's due in about 1500klms. I might manage to hold off till we get back from overseas though as I doubt I'll cover that in the next 6 weeks.
I'm going to take it to the dealer I bought it from (Sunco Hyundai) and we'll see how it goes.
After that though, I may do my own.

[agentr31]

no trouble checking brake pad wear through the alloy wheels.

BINGO!! thats how i do it if im curious to how the brake pads are going on my other car!!

[snowcherry]

just had my 15000km

AU$133 inc parts and labour
did buy my own oil though

nb: they didn't perform the wheel rotation so not sure if that affected the price

That's a very good price, I'm impressed! I rang 3 different dealers for a quote on the 15000km service.

Keystar: $312 with oil, ~$200 without
Zupps: $330 with oil, ~$270 without
Marooka: $297 with oil, $193 without

i was quoted $216 with the oil - so it dropped $83 for not having that.
i see in your quotes yours drops more without the oil - interesting.
i'm in central queensland, maybe they just don't put as high a premium on each component up here as they do in the city? (which i'm surprised on really)

[Mutley]

Nah it's like DAzz said, it's cos I have a diesel and you have a petrol, that's why the difference in price.

[babis_xo]

Is the wheel rotation necessary on 15.000 service?

[Surferdude]

Is the wheel rotation necessary on 15.000 service?

babis, to be perfectly honest, tyre rotation should not be an automatic occurrence.
Although on FWD cars, the wear on the front can be three times what it is on the back, rotation can mask suspension problems and remove a useful diagnostic tool for mechanics later on.

Rotation became popular as a way of ensuring all four tyres wore out at about the same time (on RWD cars where you would get only slightly different wear patterns front and rear).

However on FWD cars, you can get heavy wear at the front, accentuated by heavy shoulder wear on the LHF due to roundabouts etc. (maybe it happens on the right hand tyre in Europe - I guess you go round roundabouts in an anticlockwise direction so the wear would be on the outside of the RHF tyre).

In addition, there is more opportunity for the rear to get out of alignment, thus causing abnormal wear.
If you rotate the tyres, and somewhere down the track you have someone trying to diagnose a problem, they've got to guess what wear on what tyre is caused by what problem.

Confused??? Sorry.

However, having said all that, rotation if done, is best carried out at intervals of no more than 10,000klm. It should be done by someone who can tell at a glance from the tyres as they come off, if there are any alignment, balance or pressure issues.

To the right person, looking at a tyre is just like reading a book. It tells a clear story of what's going on with the suspension of the car, what the driver is like and the type of roads they travel.

Each driver needs to decide wheher they want to be replacing two tyres at a time or all four. If two, don't rotate. There are benefits and shorcomings to both options which i won't go into in this post but can expand on it if anyone wants me to.

[babis_xo]

That was very explanatory indeed.

...rotation can mask suspension problems and remove a useful diagnostic tool for mechanics later on.

...looking at a tyre is just like reading a book.

...and that's something i never thought of, so i shall leave my book open, risking of changing tyres sooner. After all, it's an opportunity to get rid of Hankooks

Thanks!

[Dazzler]

Nice explanation Trev.. I have been lucky most of the time being able to time my rotations to have all four tyres wearing out at the same time (on the few cars I have kept long enough...)

[snowcherry]

Is the wheel rotation necessary on 15.000 service?

babis, to be perfectly honest, tyre rotation should not be an automatic occurrence.
Although on FWD cars, the wear on the front can be three times what it is on the back, rotation can mask suspension problems and remove a useful diagnostic tool for mechanics later on.

i had my rotation done around 12000k.
at my 7500 service (actually done closer to 10000) i mentioned a 'wiggle' at high speed but they didn't find anything and i decided to have the rotation done as a prelude to an alignment check. just haven't done the alignment check yet. apparently the rotation showed the tyres were wearing evenly though.

[Joel]

Well I doubt very much it is worse than Honda servicing costs, even the diesel services sound at least 25% cheaper than my petrol civic.. Just have to ring around each service...

[agentr31]

i dunno...

epic pricing must go to fiat... my boss has a fiat 500 for his missus... fiat quoted him $600 for the first service...

[Mike SX]

  fiat quoted him $600 for the first service...

another Italian rip off....

[Joel]

yeah ok that is worse than Honda, but Honda is still worse than Hyundai, and by more if you only intend on doing 15,000km/1 year services..

From drive review..

"Honda dealership servicing is a killer. To be avoided at all costs. While I would buy another new Honda, the dealership servicing costs would put me off. It is how they recoup their money. "

The other interesting thing for me will be when I get the i30 and drive to Sydney next, as with two adults, luggage and one child I can't beat around 10l/100km on the hume in the 07 Civic even without aircon (cruise control set at 110km and I rarely stop)... I keep telling the service center but they are not interested  , so the diesel i30 will be a good test for me..

[agentr31]

LOL... good old italians! always out to make a quick sly $$$

"recoupe" a honda is a BLOODY EXPESIVE car to begin with!!!

[Mike SX]

good old italians! always out to make a quick sly $$$

I wonder what Dazz will think of this.........