[eye30]

AlanHo --- How does this effect your purchase and are you still on for delivery before 1 April?

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    Change to car tax rules will see only zero-emission new cars pay nothing at all

    All new cars above this will pay a flat £140 per year after the first 12 months

    Cars costing more than £40,000 will be hammered with extra £310 a year cost

    Changes only affect brand new cars, for others existing system remains 

Car tax changes will mean 7 in 10 new buyers pay more from April | Daily Mail Online

[Dazzler]

The nero isn't Zero emission.  It is a hybrid not a full EV. So the 140 p/a is what Alan was already aware of. Please pay attention in class Lester...

[eye30]

The nero isn't Zero emission.  It is a hybrid not a full EV. So the 140 p/a is what Alan was already aware of. Please pay attention in class Lester...

Sand in corner with hat with D on!

[The Gonz]

... and use a drop sheet if you're going to do any sanding in class!

[Dazzler]

... and use a drop sheet if you're going to do any sanding in class!

Sounds like he's taking his bat and ball and gone to play in the sand box... 

[AlanHo]

You owe Lester a grovelling humble and sincere apology. The new rules specify clearly that they only apply to cars registered after 1st April 2017.

Cars registered before that date will retain their current tax rating.

The Niro 2 under current rules emits 88 units of CO2 and is zero rated for road tax. Hence I will not be paying road tax for the life of the vehicle. 

This assumes that I get the car before 1st April - it is still on a Hyundai Glovis car carrier - possibly Glovis Solomon for those who monitor marine traffic - together with up to 6,499 other cars. The ship has a gross weight of 72,000 tons and can cruise at about 20 knots. 

It is currently cruising from Sri Lanka to a southern port in Jordan - from where it is expected to travel to Suez and into the Med. Sea

[The Gonz]

It may not make it through heavy seas, Alan. That big black panel looks a bit crumpled.

[eye30]

You owe Lester a grovelling humble and sincere apology.

Dazz go and sand in the corner with a D on his hat

[Dazzler]

But, but.. that is what I was intimating. You already said if it wasn't delivered before 1st april you didn't want it. The way I read Lesters post was that he thought you wouldn't now worry about the cut off because he was thinking the Niro was a nil emissions vehicle...

[The Gonz]

Dazz go and sand in the corner with a D on his hat

We gonna need a lot more sandpaper now!

[eye30]

Dazz go and sand in the corner with a D on his hat

We gonna need a lot more sandpaper now!

Best if you come and join us and sand in the corner with the standpaper

[AlanHo]

This thread is becoming rather abrasive.....

[eye30]

This thread is becoming rather abrasive.....

Better not use this then..




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[eye30]

I’ve been charged with murder for killing a man with sandpaper.

Gosh, I only intended to rough him up a bit.

[asathorny]

Yer rubbing Alan up the wrong way now Lester 

[Surferdude]

I’ve been charged with murder for killing a man with sandpaper.

Gosh, I only intended to rough him up a bit.

That's a bit coarse.
Surely they'd let you off with a fine.

[The Gonz]

... he said in a rasping voice.

[beerman]

Why are eletric vehicles called Zero emission?

Seems to me that unless the power is being made via renewable sources that the emissions are mearly being transferred to where the coal fired power plant is based.

[The Gonz]

I've always said as much. Reward for shifting the problem.

[Asterix]

Why are eletric vehicles called Zero emission?

Seems to me that unless the power is being made via renewable sources that the emissions are mearly being transferred to where the coal fired power plant is based.

Agree, but the power plant's are mostly not placed in the city centre where the pollution is the big killer. In that sense it's Zero Emission. 

[AlanHo]

Furthermore - a typical power plant may chuck out a lot of Co2 and other pollutants - but per Kw of electricity generated they are far more efficient than an internal combustion engine.

If you could wave a magic wand and overnight all vehicles were battery or fuel cell powered - pollution levels would fall dramatically (given there was enough generating capacity to serve them of course - which would require a second wave of the wand)

[The Gonz]

On the same page, Alan. I've always been a big fan of electric vehicles, not for some mistaken notion of zero emissions, but for the fact that the problem is indeed shifted to one far more efficient focal point where something genuinely sweeping can be done, like go nuclear, solar, wave, geothermal, etc.

[beerman]

Not saying they are a bad thing. Just that the term 'Zero Emmissions' is deceptive and should not be used, especally by Governments.

[The Gonz]

Not saying they are a bad thing. Just that the term 'Zero Emmissions' is deceptive and should not be used, especally by Governments.

We live in among veils of fantasy, delusion and deception. Governments are among the most expert at constructing these.

[Asterix]

 

[Surferdude]

I think you're all being overly critical.  Surely the term zero emissions only refers to the vehicle's operation not its manufacture.

[AlanHo]

Oy !! - count me out. I confined my remarks to the car emissions.

I remember reading an article a few years ago that we would never be able to have electric cars for everyone - because there was not enough copper on the earth to make all the motors and wiring.  I was working in the aluminium industry at the time - which was chuffed at the suggestion - because aluminium can be used in wiring and motors