America's bloody gun culture!!!

Ugly Mongrel · **December 15, 2012, 02:22:28**

When will it ever end?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-15/28-shot-dead-in-us-school-shooting/4429384

komaterpillar · **Reply #1: December 15, 2012, 03:13:57**

thats #ucked. what sort of scumbag opens up on kindergarten kids? and then takes himself out

Ugly Mongrel · **Reply #2: December 15, 2012, 03:20:53**

Quote from: komaterpillar on December 15, 2012, 03:13:57

thats #ucked. what sort of scumbag opens up on kindergarten kids? and then takes himself out

Couldn't agree more, Brett. What a brave bastard he must have been!!!

Doggie 1 · **Reply #3: December 15, 2012, 04:03:55**

Poor little buggers.
R.I.P.

Phil №❶ · **Reply #4: December 15, 2012, 07:29:46**

Stephen Hawking might be right,"there is no God"

Dazzler · **Reply #5: December 15, 2012, 07:34:08**

Just imagine the few in the room that survived (they will be screwed for life) and just think of how many would be effected by the ripple effect of that many kids dying like that ... Siblings, Parents, Aunts, Uncles, Grandparents .. the list goes on and on...

2i30s · **Reply #6: December 15, 2012, 09:30:27**

FatBoy · **Reply #7: December 15, 2012, 10:03:28**

Poor little buggers. A very sad day indeed. My thoughts go out to all of those affected.

Ugly Mongrel · **Reply #8: December 15, 2012, 10:06:27**

RIP Victoria. You did better than your best and you are an inspiration.

http://mobile.news.com.au/world/teacher-victoria-soto-threw-herself-in-front-of-her-students-to-save-them-at-sandy-hook-elementary-school/story-fndir2ev-1226537530317

Phil №❶ · **Reply #9: December 15, 2012, 10:09:46**

John 15:13

Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.

Doggie 1 · **Reply #10: December 15, 2012, 10:10:50**

My God, true heroes.
Hid her kids and was murdered herself.
Shocking stuff.

Dazzler · **Reply #11: December 15, 2012, 10:12:12**

Thanks for the link (i think)

Ugly Mongrel · **Reply #12: December 15, 2012, 10:36:59**

Quote from: Dazzler on December 15, 2012, 10:12:12

Thanks for the link (i think)

For every evil bastard that walks this Earth, there is one Angel like Victoria. May she Rest In Peace.

Asterix · **Reply #13: December 15, 2012, 14:21:34**

That is scary stuff, indeed.

Even though this seem to happen again and again in the US, the people and members of the government doesn't seem to believe there's anything wrong with their weapon law..

flydon · **Reply #14: December 15, 2012, 16:36:44**

I do not own a gun now, though I have in the past, for rabbit/bird hunting.
I don't think the problems the US is having is due to guns, it is the availability of guns to people who have mental problems, and should not have them accessible.
I worked in a sports shop when I retired from my 32 year career position. We sold all types of guns in the store, hand,rifles and shotguns.
Before I handed over a gun for prospective customers I ALWAYS duble checked for ammo in the guns, and left the action open. I NEVER felt worried doing this, but, I also had a lot of knives under the counter, from pocket knives to machetes,when I showed a customer those weapons, I always stayed WELL back of the counter, since I had no idea of the customer's intentions and mental condition.
The guns don't kill people, people kill people.
Apparently from what I saw on CNN, this person was known to have mental problems,why was he allowed to get his hands on these guns?
In Canada hand guns are a restricted firearm, not anyone can buy one.
ALL firearms must be either trigger-locked and/or in a safe, and NOT loaded.
Don

2i30s · **Reply #15: December 15, 2012, 20:22:29**

apparently the guns belonged to his mother,the police found 2 on him and 2 in his car and 2 more at his home.

2i30s · **Reply #16: December 15, 2012, 21:07:07**

i just heard on the news there was 16 6 year olds and 4 4year olds killed,very sad.

Ugly Mongrel · **Reply #17: December 15, 2012, 21:15:09**

Why the hell would you want to kill four and six year old kids? Probably because the bastard who did this knew they couldn't fight back. Filthy coward!!!!!

Phil №❶ · **Reply #18: December 15, 2012, 21:21:01**

I've been fortunate enough to have had 2 children pass those ages. It was a long time ago now, but I can still remember it well. If something like this happened, it would rip my heart out & I would be gutted.

I hope those involved, are truly supported by their relatives, friends and the system, they're going to need it.

Those killed have been called to heaven early, no illness or Earthly worries, no more harm can come to them, bless them all.

2i30s · **Reply #19: December 15, 2012, 21:37:41**

Quote from: 2i30s on December 15, 2012, 21:07:07

i just heard on the news there was 16 6 year olds and 4 4year olds killed,very sad.

sorry i made a mistake about the 4 year olds,it was 4 7 year olds. still gutwrenching.

Ugly Mongrel · **Reply #20: December 25, 2012, 12:41:50**

And it just goes on and on

http://m.couriermail.com.au/news/world/firefighters-shot-trying-to-save-lives-in-webster-new-york/story-fnd12peo-1226543177223

Doggie 1 · **Reply #21: December 25, 2012, 12:54:45**

What is wrong with these people?

Ugly Mongrel · **Reply #22: December 25, 2012, 13:03:44**

Quote from: db08 on December 25, 2012, 12:54:45

What is wrong with these people?

Guns!!!

Doggie 1 · **Reply #23: December 25, 2012, 13:14:15**

Quote from: Ugly Mongrel on December 25, 2012, 13:03:44

Quote from: db08 on December 25, 2012, 12:54:45
What is wrong with these people?

Guns!!!

I mean the ones doing the shooting. Lots of people in the U.S.have guns.
I really don't see how they will be able to reverse the gun ownership situation.

flydon · **Reply #24: December 25, 2012, 16:23:52**

Apparently the mother owned the guns, she liked guns, she also knew her son had mental problems.
Again, I do not NOW own guns, but they do not shoot themselves.
Remember the guy also in Norway?? who killed all those school kids.
Don

Phil №❶ · **Reply #25: December 25, 2012, 19:51:17**

Quote from: db08 on December 25, 2012, 13:14:15

I really don't see how they will be able to reverse the gun ownership situation.

They have a constitutional right to bear arms, so they'd have to rescind that 1st, good luck with that one.
Then a voluntary surrendering of weapons, (only the law abiding citizens would do that, as in Oz), so that leaves the crims and mental defects armed still.

Just not going to happen IMO.

2i30s · **Reply #26: December 25, 2012, 20:46:01**

in 1880 they had a necessity to bare arms for safety,now they don't.

not one of those gunmen stopped shooting Innocent people due to being shot dead by an armed citizen.

Surferdude · **Reply #27: December 26, 2012, 00:34:23**

Quote from: 2i30s on December 25, 2012, 20:46:01

in 1880 they had a necessity to bare arms for safety,now they don't. not one of those gunmen stopped shooting Innocent people due to being shot dead by an armed citizen.

In 1776, pretty much all the guns (I believe) were single shot muskets and pistols. As far as I'm concerned, the constitution can be interpreted to continue to allow them. But any kind of revolver, or automatic weapon did not exist and should not be covered by it.

However, I agree with Phil. It's all gone too far to ever wind it back. I've seen them interviewing gun owners recently and they all say they'd ignore the law if it was brought in.
Nightmare stuff.

2i30s · **Reply #28: December 26, 2012, 02:46:24**

looks like they'll need to build more prisons.

rustynutz · **Reply #29: December 26, 2012, 03:17:41**

Quote from: Surferdude on December 26, 2012, 00:34:23

Quote from: 2i30s on December 25, 2012, 20:46:01
in 1880 they had a necessity to bare arms for safety,now they don't. not one of those gunmen stopped shooting Innocent people due to being shot dead by an armed citizen.

In 1776, pretty much all the guns (I believe) were single shot muskets and pistols. As far as I'm concerned, the constitution can be interpreted to continue to allow them. But any kind of revolver, or automatic weapon did not exist and should not be covered by it.

However, I agree with Phil. It's all gone too far to ever wind it back. I've seen them interviewing gun owners recently and they all say they'd ignore the law if it was brought in.
Nightmare stuff.

Doesn't the constitution give the people the right to keep and bear arms?
"Arms" are weapons, according to my dictionary so all weapons are surely covered by the constitution...