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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => TYRES | WHEELS | BRAKES => Topic started by: rustynutz on February 21, 2013, 03:12:34
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I finally got to replace the tyres on my i30 yesterday.... :)
I ended up going for Continental's Comfort Contact 5's (http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/au/en/continental/tyres/themes/car-tyres/compact-class-tyres/comfort-contact-5/comfort-contact-5.html)
The main reason I chose these tyres were for their "alleged" quietness so it will be interesting to see if this turns out to be the case.
They cost me $153 each which was quite reasonable considering Bob Jane T Marts wanted $169. :eek:
I ended up getting 55,500 k's out of the original Hankooks so I was pretty happy considering the goat tracks I drive on at times and the fact that I like to motor around corners... :D
I had a front and rear wheel alignment done a few weeks back so it will be interesting to see how these tyres wear compared to the originals which had scrubbed a little on the inside edge.
I'll post my thoughts on these tyres when I get to put a few K's on them... :undecided:
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:goodjob2: :goodjob:
what are your first impressions of the tyres rusty?
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I'll be really interested in your comments Rusty as these are the tyres I will look at at replacement time, based on Alan's comments and others'.
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I'll be really interested in your comments Rusty as these are the tyres I will look at at replacement time, based on Alan's comments and others'.
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Gee, the pressure's on now... :eek:
Perhaps I should be out driving instead of sitting at my keyboard.... :lol:
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I'm up for it very soon, so I'm happy to add to the pressure...Mush, Rusty! (http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/graemlins/whip.gif)
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You may recall that I did a lot of research about tyre noise before I changed to Continentals. I wrote to several tyre companies asking which tyres in their range offered the quietest ride. I posted on this forum the following statement :_
Although my earlier road tests of the various models had proved that the new car is a considerable improvement over the previous model for cabin noise, I arranged for the dealer to change the standard Hankook Ventus Prime 2 tyres to Continental Premium Contact 2 before I took delivery. These Continentals are generally recognised to be one of the best for quiet running.
Before making this decision I did a lot of internet research and corresponded with various tyre manufacturers. Continental advised that the Premium Contact 2 tyres are the least noisy in their range – better in this respect than their later Premium Contact 5 tyre which has been developed to provide improved tyre wear and better extreme wet grip. Continental admitted that other major brands produce tyres that are as quiet – but claim that none are quieter.
I am happy to buy the less durable tyre in order to reduce cabin noise to the absolute minimum. The car is equipped with a temporary space-saver spare wheel so only 4 new tyres were required.
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Yeah. The "2"s were what were fitted to our hire car in the UK. Great tyre.
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A review of the CC5.
http://autokinetics.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/continentals-answer-to-the-decibel-equation/ (http://autokinetics.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/continentals-answer-to-the-decibel-equation/)
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Quite impressive Pip :goodjob2:
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Thanks pip...yeah, I did read that before I bought mine, not too sure how relevant it is though seeing as the test tyre was a 15 incher with different profile and width... :undecided:
I did a few k's on mine last night but it was hard to tell if they were quieter or not as it was blowing a gale so there was lots of wind noise around the mirrors....
But, perhaps it was because the tyres were quieter that I was hearing this wind noise??? :undecided:
Anyhow, I think I'll reserve my judgement a bit longer as far as their quietness is concerned.
So far dry road performance appears to be at least on par with the original Hankooks which I must admit is fine by me...
I might have to do a rain dance though so I can get to try out their wet weather performance... :whistler:
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Put some clothes on first, Rusty. :rolleyes:
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And get my clothes wet? :rolleyes: :confused:
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Anyhow, I think I'll reserve my judgement a bit longer as far as their quietness is concerned.
I'm reading between the lines here. If you didn't notice a significant difference immediately - noisy drive in and a quiet drive out - then there can't be a lot to notice. :undecided:
I've always found that just getting new tyres makes a difference, whatever they are.
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Don't jump the gun yet, fellas....like I said it was very windy so I was hearing a lot of wind noise.
I do believe they are quieter but, I'd rather wait for normal conditions before I make an official call.....
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Don't jump the gun yet, fellas....like I said it was very windy so I was hearing a lot of wind noise.
Pills, Rusty, take your flatulence pills.
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:P
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Ok, after driving on a variety of different road surfaces yesterday I'm happy to say I reckon these tyres are quieter. Not massively so but definitely quieter. :goodjob:
Now, hopefully we get some rain soon....
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Ok, after driving on a variety of different road surfaces yesterday I'm happy to say I reckon these tyres are quieter. Not massively so but definitely quieter. :goodjob:
Now, hopefully we get some rain soon....
Thanks.
Can you please define "reckon?"
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consider, believe, perceive, estimate...... :cool:
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You may recall that I did a lot of research about tyre noise before I changed to Continentals. I wrote to several tyre companies asking which tyres in their range offered the quietest ride. I posted on this forum the following statement :_
Although my earlier road tests of the various models had proved that the new car is a considerable improvement over the previous model for cabin noise, I arranged for the dealer to change the standard Hankook Ventus Prime 2 tyres to Continental Premium Contact 2 before I took delivery. These Continentals are generally recognised to be one of the best for quiet running.
Before making this decision I did a lot of internet research and corresponded with various tyre manufacturers. Continental advised that the Premium Contact 2 tyres are the least noisy in their range – better in this respect than their later Premium Contact 5 tyre which has been developed to provide improved tyre wear and better extreme wet grip. Continental admitted that other major brands produce tyres that are as quiet – but claim that none are quieter.
I am happy to buy the less durable tyre in order to reduce cabin noise to the absolute minimum. The car is equipped with a temporary space-saver spare wheel so only 4 new tyres were required.
And the result, so far is...........................................................
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consider, believe, perceive, estimate...... :cool:
Isn't there a distinct differentiation between belief and estimation?
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Yes, belief has 6 letters and estimation has 10.... :p
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Do you really believe that or was it just an estimation? :undecided:
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You may recall that I did a lot of research about tyre noise before I changed to Continentals. I wrote to several tyre companies asking which tyres in their range offered the quietest ride. I posted on this forum the following statement :_
Although my earlier road tests of the various models had proved that the new car is a considerable improvement over the previous model for cabin noise, I arranged for the dealer to change the standard Hankook Ventus Prime 2 tyres to Continental Premium Contact 2 before I took delivery. These Continentals are generally recognised to be one of the best for quiet running.
Before making this decision I did a lot of internet research and corresponded with various tyre manufacturers. Continental advised that the Premium Contact 2 tyres are the least noisy in their range – better in this respect than their later Premium Contact 5 tyre which has been developed to provide improved tyre wear and better extreme wet grip. Continental admitted that other major brands produce tyres that are as quiet – but claim that none are quieter.
I am happy to buy the less durable tyre in order to reduce cabin noise to the absolute minimum. The car is equipped with a temporary space-saver spare wheel so only 4 new tyres were required.
And the result, so far is...........................................................
I have not used the decibel meter since my original comparative tests - but I have no reason to believe that the tyre noise has changed or the wet weather grip is a problem.
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You may recall that I did a lot of research about tyre noise before I changed to Continentals. I wrote to several tyre companies asking which tyres in their range offered the quietest ride. I posted on this forum the following statement :_
Although my earlier road tests of the various models had proved that the new car is a considerable improvement over the previous model for cabin noise, I arranged for the dealer to change the standard Hankook Ventus Prime 2 tyres to Continental Premium Contact 2 before I took delivery. These Continentals are generally recognised to be one of the best for quiet running.
Before making this decision I did a lot of internet research and corresponded with various tyre manufacturers. Continental advised that the Premium Contact 2 tyres are the least noisy in their range – better in this respect than their later Premium Contact 5 tyre which has been developed to provide improved tyre wear and better extreme wet grip. Continental admitted that other major brands produce tyres that are as quiet – but claim that none are quieter.
I am happy to buy the less durable tyre in order to reduce cabin noise to the absolute minimum. The car is equipped with a temporary space-saver spare wheel so only 4 new tyres were required.
And the result, so far is...........................................................
I have not used the decibel meter since my original comparative tests - but I have no reason to believe that the tyre noise has changed or the wet weather grip is a problem.
Sorry, but did I miss tests on your current Contis? As I read it you did tests before fitting them.
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I'm reading between the lines here. If you didn't notice a significant difference immediately - noisy drive in and a quiet drive out - then there can't be a lot to notice. :undecided:
I've always found that just getting new tyres makes a difference, whatever they are.
The difficulty here was that I'd just come back from Tasmania where I'd been driving a little Suzuki Alto for 2 1/2 weeks and I've now gone and fitted new tyres to my i30.
As it had been a while since I had driven my car, I had to rely on my memory of how noisy the old tyres were compared to the new.... :undecided:
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This past week I drove to Canberra and back in my girlfriend's CW i30 and I couldn't help but notice how much more road noise there was when compared to my i30.
Now, her car does have 17" rims compared to my SLX's 16" which may or may not contribute to more road noise but, I'm happy to say that compared to her car's standard Kumho's, the Continentals are definitely quieter.... :goodjob:
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Thanks Rusty. :goodjob2:
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Kumho Tyres offered me their KH18 Solus, 195.65.15s at $98 each drive away. Claimed they are good for 80,00k and far quiter than the Kumho Solus KH15 that came fitted to the vehicle. Disapointed that I will be lucky to get 40,000k out of Solus KH15 and I am therefore hesitant of fitting Kumho again. I am not a leadfoot. What is the opinion of members about the KH18. I am leaning towards the Continental or Bridgestone as they appear to be safe, quite and long wearing tyres. I am not too concerned about the price
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Kumho Tyres offered me their KH18 Solus, 195.65.15s at $98 each drive away. Claimed they are good for 80,00k and far quiter than the Kumho Solus KH15 that came fitted to the vehicle. Disapointed that I will be lucky to get 40,000k out of Solus KH15 and I am therefore hesitant of fitting Kumho again. I am not a leadfoot. What is the opinion of members about the KH18. I am leaning towards the Continental or Bridgestone as they appear to be safe, quite and long wearing tyres. I am not too concerned about the price
Depending on the pattern, Bridgestones aren't necessarily quiet.
I'd go for the Contis, personally. I think they are going to give you the best wet grip and quietness. I can't speak about the wear.
The KH18 is definitely a better tyre than the KH15 but 80,000 is a lot to claim for any tyre on a front wheel drive car.
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Seems as good a time as any to give a bit of an update on the Conti tyres I fitted a few months back.
While I've only put around 4000k's on them so far I must admit I have no complaints, they seem to grip well wet or dry.
I was coming back from a trip to Melbourne the other night and I just couldn't help but notice how relaxing it was, just cruising at the speed limit with the "cruise" set and the stereo softly playing. It then dawned on me that one of the reasons it was so relaxing was due to the lack of road noise.
While it's hard to really tell without a noise meter, seat of the pants testing definitely tells me these tyres are quieter than the original Hankooks....
My verdict.... :goodjob2: :goodjob:
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I got 84,993 klms out of my original Kumho Solus KH15 195/65 R15 tyres.
If I was buying tyres right now I would probably go for the Bob Jane T Marts 4 for 3 offer on Bridgestones and get the Bridgestone Ecopia (a fuel saver tyre). That deal is to 31 May.
$139 per tyre x 3 = $417 for 4 tyres. (plus alignment ... )
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I got 84,993 klms out of my original Kumho Solus KH15 195/65 R15 tyres
Thanks Eureka. I cannot understand why you would recommend a brand other than kumho Solus when you accomplished 85,000klms on the originals. If I had similar performance I would have knocked the kumho Dealer down to get another set of Solus at the price offered, but I had doubts about the claim. Was it because of noise, safety or some other reason. As Pauline once said "Would you please explain?"
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I got 68,000 kms out of my original set of Kumhos, more from the second.
Rusty, is "seat of pants" the best way to monitor noise? :rofl:
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I've had Hankook,kumho and two cheaper brand on ours,got a crap run out of them all,best was justa tad under 40,000,but I have just put two Mayruns on the front of Bruce,probably geta crap run out of them too,but they are the quietest tryes I've had on either of the cars so far,I was surprised how much quieter they have been so far,only done 800k'S on them since monday
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I've had Hankook,kumho and two cheaper brand on ours,got a crap run out of them all,best was justa tad under 40,000,but I have just put two Mayruns on the front of Bruce,probably geta crap run out of them too,but they are the quietest tryes I've had on either of the cars so far,I was surprised how much quieter they have been so far,only done 800k'S on them since monday
Thanks, Rick, a good set of names to put to memory. I wonder whether I'll be able to judge tyre noise progressively. Maybe from here on in, every set will be quieter.
(http://419.bittenus.com/11/5/deaf.jpg)
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CAN YOU SPEAK UP A BIT PLEASE?
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I've had Hankook,kumho and two cheaper brand on ours,got a crap run out of them all,best was justa tad under 40,000,but I have just put two Mayruns on the front of Bruce,probably geta crap run out of them too,but they are the quietest tryes I've had on either of the cars so far,I was surprised how much quieter they have been so far,only done 800k'S on them since monday
Thanks, Rick, a good set of names to put to memory. I wonder whether I'll be able to judge tyre noise progressively. Maybe from here on in, every set will be quieter.
(http://419.bittenus.com/11/5/deaf.jpg)
Probably that is my problem Gonz,I've just got a bit deafer the last eight months,I have been riding like a dog in the truck with me head hanging out the window.
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Hornet - I recently bought Continentals to replace the original Kumhos, partly to see if the car's 'ride' would be any better than with the Kumho tyres. If the Bridgestone deal had been available at the time I would have bought their Ecopia tyres - primarily to see if I could get better fuel economy than Kumho tyres. Tyre longevity is not my only concern, although the distance I got from the original tyres was very welcome.
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Having read through the tyre noise threads on here, I noted the comment in Sound Deadener Showdown that "if tyres are the only noise you are concerned about, new tyres might be the best option".
So out went a set of perfectly healthy Hankook Optima 415s (the OEM fit on my 2011 i30) in favour of Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance on my 16" alloys.
I don't have a professional sound level meter, but I used an app on my phone to get before/after results, using a part of the A46 where the surface changes from concrete to tarmac, and driving at 60 mph.
| Tyre | Concrete | Coarse tarmac | Smooth tarmac |
| Hankook | 86 - 88 dB | 87 - 88 dB | 82 - 84 dB |
| Goodyear | 85 - 87 dB | 87 - 88 dB | 79 - 81 dB |
.. so I did measure a reduction in noise levels to back up my subjective impression and what the numbers don't show is the change in the quality of the sound - a deeper rumble from the Goodyears, which I find less annoying.
So despite the cost (£73 a corner) I'm satisfied that my i30 is now a nicer place to be and has low-noise, fuel-efficient tyres. Recommended.
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Be interesting to hear you views say after a week or so after you have had varying surface types and of course the all to familiar british rain.
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Thanks Bryan :whsaid: plus hopefully in a month or so you might be able to give some feedback about any fuel economy improvements.
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After a couple of weeks with the Goodyears I am very pleased with their quietness - coarse surfaces no longer stop conversations and I have to watch my speed because there are no sound cues.
Fuel economy gains are difficult to demonstrate, but it's looking like they are worth 2-4 MPG more than the Hankooks (so they'll never pay for themselves on fuel savings alone, but that wasn't the point).
The plot below shows speed against Economy for the same locations on the same road, driven under the same conditions (but at different times and similar speeds). Not conclusive, but it shows the trend:
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g280/cobrd/i30/tyres_comparison.jpg)
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Still, a sizeable saving over time ... thanks for that!
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Thanks for that. :goodjob:
Very interested in the noise reduction.
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I agree that durability and tyre noise are something to consider(I got rid of a set of maxxis on a mazda because of drumming) when buying new tyres, but to me a tyre that turns and goes where it is pointed in all conditions and brakes harder and in a shorter distance wins for me anytime.
I know though that not everyone can afford a premium tyre, but for me, (as I am not the main driver), the extra expense is warranted.
Sorry for the looong opening sentence..
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I agree that durability and tyre noise are something to consider(I got rid of a set of maxxis on a mazda because of drumming) when buying new tyres, but to me a tyre that turns and goes where it is pointed in all conditions and brakes harder and in a shorter distance wins for me anytime.
I know though that not everyone can afford a premium tyre, but for me, (as I am not the main driver), the extra expense is warranted.
Sorry for the looong opening sentence..
I commend you on your attitude, ausi30.
Far too often over my many years in the tyre and auto service industry the request I heard was, "I just want something cheap. My wife only uses the car for short shopping trips and to take the kids to school".
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"and to take the kids to school".
I have actually heard a guy say that....
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"and to take the kids to school".
I have actually heard a guy say that....
You'd better believe it.
I doubt there would have been a week in the 30+ years I spent in the industry when I DIDN'T hear it.
It takes all your tact to not tell them what you think of them.
I had a service manager working for me years ago (probably 83/84 whose response to that was, "Do you hate your wife and kids?".
I had to ban him from saying it eventually.
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You could take it that way, but what they really mean is it only does low speed trips. Which is equally as wrong.
A crash at any speed can cause injury to occupants and the likelihood that in the tyres lifetime of say 2 years, I'll bet the car gets used for towing the trailer / boat etc with the family on board, which is when you really need excellent tyres.
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Could we start a chart / poll / scoreboard / buyer's guide to capture the top rated tyre replacement solutions for our beloved i30s? I find this thread very informative but the guts of the value is in getting a list of best tyres / deals / votes from users for users. :goodjob:
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Gee, that's a bit like asking who makes the best car. There are many variables and availability options due to the international nature of our members, having said that, it's a good idea. Maybe we should award scores in specific areas like they do on Top Gear :whistler:
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Hey, let's take the idea further and become our own ANCAP / Wheels / Top Gear.
We can get our forum into the headlines by making public statements like we do with Engineers Australia (and for those in the know, I'm now President of the Old Crows as well - no, nothing to do with football :rolleyes:)
Perhaps we can create our own endorsement logo and have products such as air fresherners, polishes and - God forbid, TYRES! - carry the i30 Owners Club tick of approval!
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Hey, let's take the idea further and become our own ANCAP / Wheels / Top Gear.
We can get our forum into the headlines by making public statements like we do with Engineers Australia (and for those in the know, I'm now President of the Old Crows as well - no, nothing to do with football :rolleyes:)
Perhaps we can create our own endorsement logo and have products such as air fresherners, polishes and - God forbid, TYRES! - carry the i30 Owners Club tick of approval!
Good luck with getting agreement within the membership. ;)
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That's not a showstopper - we don't need to agree, just build a list of favourites and where one gets more than one vote it gets a higher place on the list. I'm sure the forum poll function could achieve this. :D
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There is definitely some merit in the poll idea Gonz .. We will have to have a think about the best way to do it though :cool:
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My vote goes to any tyre,that stays on a rim and I get more than 35,000k's and doesn't go down,funny thing Years ago,talking 72,bought a full set of Mitchies,cost me an arm and a leg,got them one my FE ute did 28,000 miles,when I trade up to a HR ute they were still in that good a condition,I swapped them onto the HR,did at least another 20,000 miles and even when I got rid of that ute,they were still passable as roadworthy.
So having that in my memory banks what they were like a couple of years ago I bought another set,well lets just say were the biggest disappointment I had had at that time for a long time,they were shagged within 25000 k's,they were noisy,only positive they were good to ride on,expensive is not always the best,I feel like some, not all,of the better know brands are riding on their names these days
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expensive is not always the best,I feel like some, not all,of the better know brands are riding on their names these days
I read "Choice" magazine every now and then and last year they reviewed tyres and one of the lessor known brands came up trumps.....
:link: (http://www.tyres4u.com.au/tyres4u/brands/brandimages/brandselector/gtradial/pdfs/GT-Radial-Champiro-228-Choice-Tyre-Test-Flyer-July-2012.pdf)
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Yes I'm seeing more and more GT Radial trucks over here,not really looked into them
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It would be nice to know the manufacturing origin of all the brands of tyre. There's brand name, but that's meaningless if it comes from the same factory as a lesser quality tyre.
It's happening in the food industry, where locally branded foods are being replaced with generic brands, sourced from overseas, because there is more profit for the shop in each sale. Even food manufacturers here, (those that are left) do production runs of generic foods, next to their own brand to survive.
Getting back to tyres, how are standards for safety and quality established.
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Happens with cars too.. They start assembling them in another country (India for example) and the QC goes down hill... :undecided:
Rick,
I had Michelins on a Fiat in the mid 70's and they were brilliant .. Have Michelin Primacy LC on the new Hybrid, they perform well (hope they last ok) :cool:
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It would be nice to know the manufacturing origin of all the brands of tyre. There's brand name, but that's meaningless if it comes from the same factory as a lesser quality tyre.
It's happening in the food industry, where locally branded foods are being replaced with generic brands, sourced from overseas, because there is more profit for the shop in each sale. Even food manufacturers here, (those that are left) do production runs of generic foods, next to their own brand to survive.
Getting back to tyres, how are standards for safety and quality established.
You need to look at the side of the tyre these days. The country of manufacture will be on it.
Some manufacturers manage to maintain their quality contol in Asian factories (or South American ones). Others don't.
And as for tyres brought into Australia, there is very little, if any, control of standards. Especially by the government.
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So if we forget all other parameters except safety, it is possible to buy a cheap tyre and compromise your safety, or worse still, buy a brand name tyre (whose Overseas factory standards have slipped) and still endanger lives. :fum:
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Hey, let's take the idea further and become our own ANCAP / Wheels / Top Gear.
We can get our forum into the headlines by making public statements like we do with Engineers Australia (and for those in the know, I'm now President of the Old Crows as well - no, nothing to do with football :rolleyes:)
Perhaps we can create our own endorsement logo and have products such as air fresherners, polishes and - God forbid, TYRES! - carry the i30 Owners Club tick of approval!
Good luck with getting agreement within the membership. ;)
:lol: We're bound to all agree.
We could even have a tyre named after us. The i30 Liberal. Has a ring to it.
After all, there is a Federal. :lol:
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So if we forget all other parameters except safety, it is possible to buy a cheap tyre and compromise your safety, or worse still, buy a brand name tyre (whose Overseas factory standards have slipped) and still endanger lives. :fum:
The short answer is yes Phil.
And even worse than that, it is possibble to buy a tyre with the same brand and model as one which might have come on your car OE, but made in an Asian factory, ONLY for use in Asian markets like China or India for instance.
The tyre will often (but not always) have a different tread and maybe a lower load index. Unscrupulous Australian importers buy container loads of them from the country the are intended for and ship them into Australia and sell them as "look how cheap we can sell you these brand name tyres".
The Federal Government doesn't care and has made it clear they have no intention of policing this sort of action.
You'll find most reputable world wide manufacturers these days have a clause in their warranties relating to "Parrallel Imports".
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Thanks for your comments Surferdude, but I would ask how can this be? We have ADR's to cover the way a car is manufactured, all government created, and yet after the original tyres wear out there are virtually no safeguards in place. That is scary IMO.
In your past employment, how did you reconcile this with both yourself and customers, if I may ask.
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Yes. It's scary all right.
If you work for reputable people in the industry you can only explain the situation and leave it up to the customer.
There were several instances I was involved in where consumers were turned away by the manufacturers because they had bought tyres from a questionable source and, when they had a problem, were "referred" by the supplier to the brand name on the tyre.
You'll find that these days, if you go into a Sams Warehouse for instance they'll often have little notices on the shelves explaining about parrallel imports so I'm assuming there has been some sort of ruling made against them in some way.
We had a classic case a few yeras ago, where a Sydney importer was advertising 205/65R15 Goodyears (I think NCT5). They were considerably cheaper than what we could sell them for. In fact they were below factory cost. When I personally got hold of one of these tyres they were made in and Asian country, with a light truck tread pattern and a lower load index, which made them illegal to be fitted to the Falcons they were being sold for and as rough as guts to ride on.
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As far as reconciling it with myself, I didn't have anything to reconcile. I wasn't doing anything wrong.
I kept one of the tyres in question in my car for months and showed it to as many dealers as possible so they could handle price queries.
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Rick,
I had Michelins on a Fiat in the mid 70's and they were brilliant .. Have Michelin Primacy LC on the new Hybrid, they perform well (hope they last ok) :cool:
yes will be interesting,the second set of Mitchies I got that I got a bad run out of where produced in India,not sure whether they still contract over there,but after what the Dude has been saying,I'm going searching on my tyres.
the set I have just bought seem to handle better than the last lot,Cyril was suffering from understeer with the old set,got to be careful with these ones as it seems to now have changed to oversteer,scarey when it first happened,hooking into a bent the night I got them I was expecting the car to still understeer,I got a shock
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As far as reconciling it with myself, I didn't have anything to reconcile. I wasn't doing anything wrong.
I kept one of the tyres in question in my car for months and showed it to as many dealers as possible so they could handle price queries.
Sorry Surferdude, when I said reconcile with yourself, I meant what did you advise the customer when they come in price oriented. I wasn't suggesting for a moment that you were compromised in any way, I can tell that's not how you operate. Sorry for any misunderstanding. :-[
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Rusty how are the new Tyre going? i'm not worried about the noise :rofl: how do they ride , roll & feel ? i've still got the original Hankook 16" on. but the k's hit 50k & won't be long i'll need some new Tyres
there used to be a TV show when i was a kid, called Cannon Ball with a song at the start that went ... " The hummin' of the Tyre's , the shiftin' of the gears, the rubble of the diesel , is all music to your ear's "
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Very happy with them, John.... :goodjob:
Ride seems to be better, bad potholes don't seem to thump as much and I'm more than happy with the grip, wet or dry.
Oh, and they are definitely quieter at highway speeds....
Certainly happy to recommend... :D
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there used to be a TV show when i was a kid, called Cannon Ball with a song at the start that went ... " The hummin' of the Tyre's , the shiftin' of the gears, the rubble of the diesel , is all music to your ear's "
Here you go.... :D
http://youtu.be/umvbqPUMoKg (http://youtu.be/umvbqPUMoKg)
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there used to be a TV show when i was a kid, called Cannon Ball with a song at the start that went ... " The hummin' of the Tyre's , the shiftin' of the gears, the rubble of the diesel , is all music to your ear's "
I vaguely remember that song....
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The Tyre's sound good Rusty.
hey Paolo5 :)
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The Tyre's sound good Rusty.
How do you know that John.. I thought you were deaf :-/
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hey Paolo5 :)
Hi Lakes! Had a friend of a friend ring up this evening interested in buying my Moto Guzzi (and maybe my MZ too)....I haven't advertised them....still have your Harley?
Cheers,
Paolo