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Title: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: copycats on January 16, 2011, 11:20:05
OK guys through you lot on this forum I decided to get an i30 to use as a taxi.One of the taxi dealers was doing an incredible deal.Came across this forum and it made it a no brainer.

Get to the point of the thread please

OK , had it 8 months now and fairly happy.much more comfortable day at work compared to my previous Vectra and Skoda.Dint laugh at the Skoda, mechanically the i30 has a lot to prove to me yet to get anywhere near the reliability and robustness (is that a word) of the Skoda.Comfort wise it beats both hands down.I did buy the estate though.

Three trivial dislikes that bug the hell out of me on a daily basis, remember its a taxi though and I wouldn't imagine these would be as much of a problem to the ordinary motorist.

1.Way to easy for rear passengers to lock the door as they go to pull the handle to open the door. Every day I hear "mate your child locks are on". Sit in the back and try it!!!!

2. Interior lights/courtesy lights.Why no setting to have all 3 come on at once, instead i have to lean back put the main one on and then putt the front/map one on and vice versa once the passenger has gone.Doing this with every passenger every night becomes irritating.Vectra or Skoda had a setting where if 1 came on/off
they all did.


3. Rear seat belts, to deep set into the seats, passengers struggle to find and clip themselves in.Doesn't help that I have leatherette upholstered on top. What is the middle belt all about? myself and passengers are confused by this setup.Most kids sitting in the middle try and unclip the bit that that looks like its already clipped in and ready to go.

Oh and the seat belt warning is way to sensitive.Put a hand bag in the middle and it thinks its a passenger and needs belted in.Cue the irritating warning noise/alarm.

As stated nothing major, just irritating when the same same recurring scenarios are visited daily.

Thanks
Copycat

Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: 2i30s on January 16, 2011, 11:42:47
#1. you can lock or unlock all doors from the drivers armrest.  #2. you could have an auto electrician wire the front light to the rear one so as when you put on the front, the rear also comes on.  :idea: #3. i haven't got an idea about the rear seat belts sorry. the last problem, with placing things on the seat and the seat belt alarm going off,place those items in the rear luggage area of the car.  :idea:
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: rustynutz on January 16, 2011, 12:05:23
I've never had a problem sitting things on the rear seat..... :-\
Even my old mum's walker, which I fold up and sit on the rear seat doesn't trigger anything.
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: copycats on January 16, 2011, 12:12:30
#1. you can lock or unlock all doors from the drivers armrest.  #2. you could have an auto electrician wire the front light to the rear one so as when you put on the front, the rear also comes on.  :idea: #3. i haven't got an idea about the rear seat belts sorry. the last problem, with placing things on the seat and the seat belt alarm going off,place those items in the rear luggage area of the car.  :idea:
Thanks for taking the time to post reply
Rgarding the locks, I wish it was just as simple as locking or unnlocking from the armrest. Not easy doing this when counting out change /writing receipt ,fiddling with interior light switches  :) etc while another passenger is geting frustrated with the handle.

Your idea regarding interior lights is certainly one i have considered and will probably take up thanks.

Regarding the sensitivity of the seatbelt warning, no chance of handbags going in rear luggage area, passengers need access to , money , phone, make up etc whilst traveling.
Thanks
Copycats
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: 2i30s on January 16, 2011, 12:23:08
#1. you can lock or unlock all doors from the drivers armrest.  #2. you could have an auto electrician wire the front light to the rear one so as when you put on the front, the rear also comes on.  :idea: #3. i haven't got an idea about the rear seat belts sorry. the last problem, with placing things on the seat and the seat belt alarm going off,place those items in the rear luggage area of the car.  :idea:
Thanks for taking the time to post reply
Rgarding the locks, I wish it was just as simple as locking or unnlocking from the armrest. Not easy doing this when counting out change /writing receipt ,fiddling with interior light switches  :) etc while another passenger is geting frustrated with the handle.

Your idea regarding interior lights is certainly one i have considered and will probably take up thanks.

Regarding the sensitivity of the seatbelt warning, no chance of handbags going in rear luggage area, passengers need access to , money , phone, make up etc whilst traveling.
Thanks
Copycats
i didn't think about the handbag,i don't use one.  :scared: :rofl:
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: eye30 on January 16, 2011, 12:59:27

1.Way to easy for rear passengers to lock the door as they go to pull the handle to open the door. Every day I hear "mate your child locks are on". Sit in the back and try it!!!!


Dealer can turn this off so they do not auto lock

ps
but at least with the locks on you can make sure they pay before they get out and do a runner  :rofl: :rofl:

pps
any stories you would like to share plus have you had anyone famous in you taxi?
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: bumpkin on January 16, 2011, 13:04:00
Don't think he is talking about autolock eye, just when someone reaches for the latch it is possible to lock the door by accident.

To be fair, your interior light issue is only one which would be noticed in your profession, it must be fairly easy to wire a switch to perhaps the door switch, since all interior lights come on when a door is opened.

I am unsure what you are talking about with regard to the middle seatbelt, mine is just a standard inertia reel setup?

Sent from my 1000ET
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: copycats on January 16, 2011, 18:31:44
Don't think he is talking about autolock eye, just when someone reaches for the latch it is possible to lock the door by accident.

To be fair, your interior light issue is only one which would be noticed in your profession, it must be fairly easy to wire a switch to perhaps the door switch, since all interior lights come on when a door is opened.

I am unsure what you are talking about with regard to the middle seatbelt, mine is just a standard inertia reel setup?

Sent from my 1000ET
Locking the door by accident happens on several occasions per shift.Never happend on any of my other taxis.The more I Look at the latch/lock button setup,the more i see the bad design.

My middle seatbelt is not a standard inertia reel.It has a seatbelt type fitting 3/4 of the way down which can be unclipped.Not talking about the actual  seatbelt clip here which slides up and down the belt.This is a separate joint for what reason I have yet to fathom.
Certainly causes confusion especially for the youngsters in the middle.Rather than just clicking in, they sit look at the joint, either try and undo it or pull the belt over there head as they think it all clicked in place.

As i said in the original post these issues would probably not be noticed by regular motorists and there families who are used to the setup.Hope I'm not sounding to over critical because I'm reasonably happy with the car so far.The issues mentioned are fairly trivial although I'm sure someone is going to damage a latch .My other taxis have had as many if not more irritating features.Skoda Octavia biggest gripe was lack of legroom leading to changing the front seat positions on just about every hire.Incidentally the Skoda had only one interior light in the centre forward position.  I did wire in another centre rear which worked in tandem with the original.
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: Lorian on January 16, 2011, 19:09:14
I have a standard intertial reel in the centre back seat, same as those on either sides. I can't even picture what you have, can you take a picture?

I never really sat in the back before, only when cleaning. So I just did, and I see what you mean about the locks being easy to lock. I can't see any easy way around it. If you got HALO enabled (Hyundai Automatic Locking) it would so nearly help but alas I think it doesn't unlock when the car comes to a standstill, but unlocks when the key is taken out. Someone with it enabled will be able to confirm this no doubt.

I think it would only take one wire from the front internal light to the dome light to allow it to function simultaneously with the front light (or door lights if preferred). If I was a taxi driver I think I'd invest in some nice brighter LED lights for both too, and the boot.
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: bumpkin on January 16, 2011, 19:13:26
OK, Lorian beat me to it, here is what I was going to say!
Strikes me that your middle seatbelt has a latch lock fitting for use with a child booster seat, a common issue with standard seatbelts is that when used on children they ride too high on the neck, so you need something which pulls the belt away from the neck, this is not on the earlier models, any chance of a picture?

Sent from my 1000ET
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: copycats on January 16, 2011, 19:39:21
I have a standard intertial reel in the centre back seat, same as those on either sides. I can't even picture what you have, can you take a picture?

I never really sat in the back before, only when cleaning. So I just did, and I see what you mean about the locks being easy to lock. I can't see any easy way around it. If you got HALO enabled (Hyundai Automatic Locking) it would so nearly help but alas I think it doesn't unlock when the car comes to a standstill, but unlocks when the key is taken out. Someone with it enabled will be able to confirm this no doubt.

I think it would only take one wire from the front internal light to the dome light to allow it to function simultaneously with the front light (or door lights if preferred). If I was a taxi driver I think I'd invest in some nice brighter LED lights for both too, and the boot.


Thanks Lorian for the input.My wifes car is rigged up that way, that is when it comes to a standstill the locks open.The problem would still be there though?Car stops or key out , buttons in open postion,passenger accidently closes it.

Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: Shambles on January 16, 2011, 19:40:45
This set of "issues" might be better in its own thread...


There ya go  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: copycats on January 16, 2011, 19:45:39
OK, Lorian beat me to it, here is what I was going to say!
Strikes me that your middle seatbelt has a latch lock fitting for use with a child booster seat, a common issue with standard seatbelts is that when used on children they ride too high on the neck, so you need something which pulls the belt away from the neck, this is not on the earlier models, any chance of a picture?

Sent from my 1000ET

Sounds about right Bumpkin,the extra clip joint near the bottom does force the belt across in a more lap position.Pain in the butt to the not familiar travelling public and the poor driver who has to turn round and belt them in.Will post a picture tomorrow
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: Lorian on January 16, 2011, 20:02:41
Sounds about right Bumpkin,the extra clip joint near the bottom does force the belt across in a more lap position.Pain in the butt to the not familiar travelling public and the poor driver who has to turn round and belt them in.Will post a picture tomorrow

Maybe it can be taken off?

I see what you mean about the rear locks, of course the punters accidentally lock them while fumbling for the handles in the dark! I have an idea - try a little luminecent (not reflective) green tape on the handles so they glow in the dark. Coupled with the light modification and maybe the problem will deminish. Like this stuff:

(http://i10.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/f8/aa/3a11_1.JPG)



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LUMINESCENT-GLOW-DARK-TAPE-300MM-X-20MM-WIDE-/270687628940?pt=UK_BOI_ProtectiveGear_RL&hash=item3f063d6e8c (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LUMINESCENT-GLOW-DARK-TAPE-300MM-X-20MM-WIDE-/270687628940?pt=UK_BOI_ProtectiveGear_RL&hash=item3f063d6e8c)
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: copycats on January 16, 2011, 20:29:49
Sounds about right Bumpkin,the extra clip joint near the bottom does force the belt across in a more lap position.Pain in the butt to the not familiar travelling public and the poor driver who has to turn round and belt them in.Will post a picture tomorrow

Maybe it can be taken off?

I see what you mean about the rear locks, of course the punters accidentally lock them while fumbling for the handles in the dark! I have an idea - try a little luminecent (not reflective) green tape on the handles so they glow in the dark. Coupled with the light modification and maybe the problem will deminish. Like this stuff:

(http://i10.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/f8/aa/3a11_1.JPG)



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LUMINESCENT-GLOW-DARK-TAPE-300MM-X-20MM-WIDE-/270687628940?pt=UK_BOI_ProtectiveGear_RL&hash=item3f063d6e8c (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LUMINESCENT-GLOW-DARK-TAPE-300MM-X-20MM-WIDE-/270687628940?pt=UK_BOI_ProtectiveGear_RL&hash=item3f063d6e8c)

Lorian, i love your thinking on this issue :goodjob:
We have a printer up in glasgow who dos all our taxi stckers, no smoking license No etc etc.Once had a ford connect with a not to disimilar problen than this one , he done me flourecent stickers with an arrow and message.Worked a treat.Unfortuneately i dont think this would work with this.Just appears to me that the button locks at the same angle as the hand that is coming to open the latch.
If the button was on the opposite side of the latch, no problem,if the buton closed in the reverse action  of present, no problem.
Just a bad design if you ask me
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: Shambles on January 16, 2011, 20:39:00
...Just appears to me that the button locks at the same angle as the hand that is coming to open the latch.
If the button was on the opposite side of the latch, no problem,if the buton closed in the reverse action  of present, no problem.
Just a bad design if you ask me

Well I just went out and sat in the back of Fergie.. first time ever I think :eek:

And you are absolutely right... it's so easy to hit the lock with the fat part of the palm; it's in the wrong position. The lock, that is.



I'm going to ask for a refund
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: Lorian on January 16, 2011, 21:09:13
I'm going to ask for a refund

Lol, good job you aren't available for private hire.

Seems i30 as a taxi introduces a few little foibles the rest of us never notice.
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: Dazzler on January 16, 2011, 21:18:19
I've never had a problem sitting things on the rear seat..... :-\
Even my old mum's walker, which I fold up and sit on the rear seat doesn't trigger anything.

In oz we only get seat belt detection on front seats ... in UK at least some models get it on all 5 seats apparently.
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: copycats on January 16, 2011, 22:54:56
I have a standard intertial reel in the centre back seat, same as those on either sides. I can't even picture what you have, can you take a picture?

I never really sat in the back before, only when cleaning. So I just did, and I see what you mean about the locks being easy to lock. I can't see any easy way around it. If you got HALO enabled (Hyundai Automatic Locking) it would so nearly help but alas I think it doesn't unlock when the car comes to a standstill, but unlocks when the key is taken out. Someone with it enabled will be able to confirm this no doubt.

I think it would only take one wire from the front internal light to the dome light to allow it to function simultaneously with the front light (or door lights if preferred). If I was a taxi driver I think I'd invest in some nice brighter LED lights for both too, and the boot.

Not working tonight due to the btake light issue


Here is a pic of the middle seatbelt


(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k498/copyingthecat/DSCF0473.jpg)



Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: Lorian on January 16, 2011, 23:03:31
Doesn't look anything like mine. I'm not even sure it looks like original equipment -  Does that "extra" bit just come off and allow the seatbelt to plug in as normal?
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: copycats on January 16, 2011, 23:25:51
Doesn't look anything like mine. I'm not even sure it looks like original equipment -  Does that "extra" bit just come off and allow the seatbelt to plug in as normal?

Its genuine alright.Handbook i got clearly displays image of it .No mention as of what its for though. The "extra bit" does come apart but this is done by inserting the key in a slot on the side. The normal clip for plugging in is further up the belt and dooes plug in as normal.
 See now how this causes confusion for the punters.
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a custard pie
Post by: rustynutz on January 17, 2011, 00:28:16
I've never had a problem sitting things on the rear seat..... :-\
Even my old mum's walker, which I fold up and sit on the rear seat doesn't trigger anything.

In oz we only get seat belt detection on front seats ... in UK at least some models get it on all 5 seats apparently.

Thanks for that info, Daz....This sounds like one feature I'm happy not to have.... :D

 :wtf: Stupid chime thingies going off....Grrrr
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: copycats on January 17, 2011, 13:04:34
Doesn't look anything like mine. I'm not even sure it looks like original equipment -  Does that "extra" bit just come off and allow the seatbelt to plug in as normal?
here's a pic with it clipped in
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k498/copyingthecat/DSCF0479.jpg)

notice how it also fouls the belt holder for the person that would be sitting to the right.

Anyway, the best solution so far regarding the belt issue is to keep it clipped in.Killing two birds here
1. Any bag or item that is placed in the middle will not start the chime.
2. Any middle passenger coming in gets a look at how it is clipped in and hopefully just unclips and then reclips in the same position with no drama.
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: carib on January 17, 2011, 13:39:37
Doesn't look anything like mine. I'm not even sure it looks like original equipment -  Does that "extra" bit just come off and allow the seatbelt to plug in as normal?
here's a pic with it clipped in
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k498/copyingthecat/DSCF0479.jpg)

notice how it also fouls the belt holder for the person that would be sitting to the right.

Anyway, the best solution so far regarding the belt issue is to keep it clipped in.Killing two birds here
1. Any bag or item that is placed in the middle will not start the chime.
2. Any middle passenger coming in gets a look at how it is clipped in and hopefully just unclips and then reclips in the same position with no drama.

Hi.

Here, in Portugal, the dealers are making the correction of that.
I' maded it myself. It's not dificult. Only dismount the seat and put the clip in correct position. You can see here.

Before
(http://i39.tinypic.com/dfeipc.jpg)

and after
(http://i40.tinypic.com/kyyyw.jpg)

Regards.

carib
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: copycats on January 17, 2011, 18:24:08
Doesn't look anything like mine. I'm not even sure it looks like original equipment -  Does that "extra" bit just come off and allow the seatbelt to plug in as normal?
here's a pic with it clipped in
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k498/copyingthecat/DSCF0479.jpg)

notice how it also fouls the belt holder for the person that would be sitting to the right.

Anyway, the best solution so far regarding the belt issue is to keep it clipped in.Killing two birds here
1. Any bag or item that is placed in the middle will not start the chime.
2. Any middle passenger coming in gets a look at how it is clipped in and hopefully just unclips and then reclips in the same position with no drama.

Hi.

Here, in Portugal, the dealers are making the correction of that.
I' maded it myself. It's not dificult. Only dismount the seat and put the clip in correct position. You can see here.

Before
(http://i39.tinypic.com/dfeipc.jpg)

and after
(http://i40.tinypic.com/kyyyw.jpg)

Regards.

carib

Well sweet Jesus, does that not look a whole lot better after the mod.
Thanks carib, will do it myself, like you.

You couldn't ask those clever Portuguese dealers to have a look at the lock buttons could you? :D

I have explained both the seatbelt and lock button issue with a main dealer.Categorically stated that was the way they were meant to be and by the look on his face when shown the problems  I must have sprouted an extra head
Imagine Joe Bloggs trying to tell the Hyundai geniuses  they MIGHT have a small problem TUT TUT
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: Lorian on January 17, 2011, 18:28:17
Ah that makes sense. I wonder if it was actually ok when it left the dealer and it was the upholsterer that caused the issue?
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: copycats on January 17, 2011, 18:41:59
Ah that makes sense. I wonder if it was actually ok when it left the dealer and it was the upholsterer that caused the issue?

No, mine's is the same as caribs before his correction.This is the way they are coming from the dealers.
If carib had done a pic with it clipped in before the mod it would cut across in the exact same way.
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: Lorian on January 17, 2011, 18:44:29
Ok, I guess it must be a new (ish) thing, as I dont have that extra clip, just one continuious belt.
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: copycats on January 17, 2011, 18:46:41
Ok, I guess it must be a new (ish) thing, as I dont have that extra clip, just one continuious belt.
Swap you :lol:
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: Lorian on January 17, 2011, 18:47:44
Hmm. think not  :wink:
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: carib on January 17, 2011, 21:07:08
Ok, I guess it must be a new (ish) thing, as I dont have that extra clip, just one continuious belt.

Hi Lorian.
I think that you have an hatch.
That clip is only in the CW (Cross Wagon, Van).

Regards,

carib
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: Lorian on January 17, 2011, 21:26:44
Ok, I guess it must be a new (ish) thing, as I dont have that extra clip, just one continuious belt.

Hi Lorian.
I think that you have an hatch.
That clip is only in the CW (Cross Wagon, Van).

Regards,

carib

Well spotted. I've never even been inside a CW!
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: carib on January 17, 2011, 22:12:06
Thanks carib, will do it myself, like you.
Hi copycats.

As I said, it's easy.

You need pull up the piece surrounded in red and as you can see there are two screws (surrounded in green).
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2nsnvde.jpg)
Of course, there are another two screws in front of the seat, near the floor.

(Sorry my poor English).

Regards,

carib
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: copycats on January 17, 2011, 22:56:35
Ok, I guess it must be a new (ish) thing, as I dont have that extra clip, just one continuious belt.

Hi Lorian.
I think that you have an hatch.
That clip is only in the CW (Cross Wagon, Van).

Regards,

carib

Well spotted. I've never even been inside a CW!

Jeez, most of the posters on this thread have never been in the back of there own hatch  :D
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: copycats on January 17, 2011, 23:01:42
Thanks carib, will do it myself, like you.
Hi copycats.

As I said, it's easy.

You need pull up the piece surrounded in red and as you can see there are two screws (surrounded in green).
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2nsnvde.jpg)
Of course, there are another two screws in front of the seat, near the floor.

(Sorry my poor English).

Regards,

carib
Thanks carib for taking the time to post the pic  :goodjob:
Are they doing a recall on them over there or just modifying as people complain?
Your english is fine  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: carib on January 17, 2011, 23:38:38
Are they doing a recall on them over there or just modifying as people complain?

Hi copycats.

I'm not sure about what is a recall, but when I gone there for an issue with ISG, they mentioned in the paper something about the seatbelt. In my case it was not necessary, but I know that another guy had this issue solved without asking anything about in the first regular service.

Regards,

carib
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: Ozbrum on January 18, 2011, 11:24:18
 I must firstly say that I haven't anything constructive to offer in the way of solutions to the problems you have posted copycats but I read with great interest your posts on the problems you've encountered using your i30 cw taxi (I have a petrol 2010 cw) and even sat in the back of mine and I agree 100% about anyone trying to get out of the back will have trouble.

The main reason of my post was the warmth of interest and concern shown to you by other members of 'The i30 owners club' was overwhelming and in particular 'carib' .. What a helpful considerate person you are "Good on you mate"  :)

What a first class group of people you all are  :goodjob:.
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: carib on January 18, 2011, 13:33:26
I must firstly say that I haven't anything constructive to offer in the way of solutions to the problems you have posted copycats but I read with great interest your posts on the problems you've encountered using your i30 cw taxi (I have a petrol 2010 cw) and even sat in the back of mine and I agree 100% about anyone trying to get out of the back will have trouble.

The main reason of my post was the warmth of interest and concern shown to you by other members of 'The i30 owners club' was overwhelming and in particular 'carib' .. What a helpful considerate person you are "Good on you mate"  :)

What a first class group of people you all are  :goodjob:.

Hi Ozbrum.

Thanks for your words. You are right. We (including you, of course) are a first class group!

I try help anyone when I can, and I don't help more because it's very dificult to me write in a good English that all understand.

I try using the spellchecker of wordprocessors and google tranlator, but I'm sure that is not the best way.

Regards,

carib

Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: copycats on January 18, 2011, 19:17:03
I must firstly say that I haven't anything constructive to offer in the way of solutions to the problems you have posted copycats but I read with great interest your posts on the problems you've encountered using your i30 cw taxi (I have a petrol 2010 cw) and even sat in the back of mine and I agree 100% about anyone trying to get out of the back will have trouble.

The main reason of my post was the warmth of interest and concern shown to you by other members of 'The i30 owners club' was overwhelming and in particular 'carib' .. What a helpful considerate person you are "Good on you mate"  :)

What a first class group of people you all are  :goodjob:.

Wow  Ozbrum,maybe not constructive in a practical sense, but what a post  :goodjob: :goodjob:
Hammered the message home to me how ordinary folk willingly and freely take time to help each other wtih the only thing in common is having the same type of vehicle.Not taking away from the many helpful postsers on this thread but i couldn't agreee more with you regarding Carib.

Carib I done the job today and it was easy as you suggested.Hopefully will cause less confusion now wth my many passengers as it looks a lot more like just an ordinary belt now and it doesn't foul-obstruct - get in the way of anything.Thanks again (do post more please your english is more than understandable)

Interestingly enough i got a mail back from Hyundai regarding the lock issue  I quote

"Further to your e-mail with regard to the locking mechanism on your Hyundai i30.

I have forwarded your concerns to the Hyundai Technical Team and this will be taken into account when producing future models. However the Technical team are unable give any assistance to the issue you have raised.

Thank you for taking the time to contact Hyundai Customer Services"

Roughly translates to me , Jeez your right, wont happen again, but you'r up the creek without a paddle with this one.

Maybe im being to hard on Hyundai here , its just that every other taxi i have owned there's always been niggly little faults, usualy through time and experience though  there comes a workable fix.Caribs seatbelt fix being a prime example.The lock issue, I'm sure is something i'm going to have to endure for the life of this taxi.
Hope someone proves me wrong
Title: Re: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: bumpkin on January 18, 2011, 22:12:08
Without looking too closely, is it possible to take the rear handles apart and remove the locking part from the mechanism, it shouldn't have an effect on the actual locking of the vehicle, just remove the plastic rocker???

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Title: Re: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: copycats on January 18, 2011, 22:43:44
Without looking too closely, is it possible to take the rear handles apart and remove the locking part from the mechanism, it shouldn't have an effect on the actual locking of the vehicle, just remove the plastic rocker???

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Thanks bumpkin, never thought of that could be worth a try.
 I love this forum
Second thoughts, the council test would never allow that, all locks latches etc must be operational from both inside and out.Mind you,if it was a simple operation I could replace for the yearly test.No council or police spot check is ever that thorough that they would notice this.
Also could I point out that out of % of passengers who accidently lock the door, could say 90 odd % of these get out rear nearside, so in reality  a nearside rear fix would all but nail this.
Feeling more confident about  it now
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: AlanHo on January 20, 2011, 23:33:13
Regarding the door lock problem.

You could put a narrow srip of duct or gaffer tape from the locking lever and onto the door (towards the rear of the door) to hold the lever in the unlocked position.

It would stop passengers from accidentally locking the door - but has the disadvantage of possibly preventing you from locking the car and setting the alarm with the remote key. You would need to remove the tape at the end of your shift.
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: copycats on January 24, 2011, 20:01:48
Regarding the door lock problem.

You could put a narrow srip of duct or gaffer tape from the locking lever and onto the door (towards the rear of the door) to hold the lever in the unlocked position.

It would stop passengers from accidentally locking the door - but has the disadvantage of possibly preventing you from locking the car and setting the alarm with the remote key. You would need to remove the tape at the end of your shift.

Tried a few things like you have suggested  but your correct cant lock wih remote, also cant lock from armrest to stop undesirables getting in.
Ta for your input though
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: Keith on January 24, 2011, 20:45:25
On my car I can set the internal lights to just front or front & centre together... :confused:
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: Lorian on January 29, 2011, 13:24:48
On my car I can set the internal lights to just front or front & centre together... :confused:

yup i tried it, ther is a center position on the rocker (unlabel) that does indeed do what the OP wants. Ideal for a taxi.
Title: Re: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: bumpkin on January 29, 2011, 18:34:53
But that only works on the door switch, what a taxi driver wants is for the lights to all come on without opening a door, in order to take the fare, write receipts etc, hence my comment about wiring them via an inline switch to the door switch.

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Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: Shambles on January 29, 2011, 18:46:57
What this needs is a toggle switch, fixed to the dash, which simulates a door being opened. Its only job would be to provide an earth to the single wire that is connected to the existing door plunger switch.

I think that's what bumpkin is saying.

Just need to find which wire that is, behind the dash...
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: carib on January 29, 2011, 18:59:48
What this needs is a toggle switch, fixed to the dash, which simulates a door being opened. Its only job would be to provide an earth to the single wire that is connected to the existing door plunger switch.

I think that's what bumpkin is saying.

Just need to find which wire that is, behind the dash...

Hi.

I Think that isn't necessary.

The map lights switch on when depressed. I think that wiring one of them to the back roof light is suficient.

Regards,

carib
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: Shambles on January 29, 2011, 19:24:09
Yes carib I agree that would work. But which would be easier to do I wonder...
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: Lorian on January 29, 2011, 19:54:56
Sorry I'd forgotten the original point.

Like carib says it has to be easiest to make the main front light's supply common with the map light's switched supply with very short bit of cable, probably only need an inch or two of cable.

Decent LEDs wouldnt go amiss too.
Title: Re: Interior light, rear seat belt and a poorly positioned door lock
Post by: carib on January 29, 2011, 22:14:48
[The lock issue, I'm sure is something i'm going to have to endure for the life of this taxi.
Hope someone proves me wrong

Hi.

"There's only one thing that has no remedy. Death"!

I do not know if this is possible and works, not tried it, but I was watching the locking of the doors front and back and seem to be equal.

Front
(http://i51.tinypic.com/24q3jvc.jpg)

and back
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2ypn6ol.jpg)

You can try to change the front to back and see if it opens up even when locked.

Another option, but more expensive, is to buy two front locks and put them on back doors.

Regards,

carib
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