Self Cancelling Trafficators.

Surferdude · **October 21, 2011, 10:24:31**

Ok. Here's the thing.

Over the two years I have owned the car I've noticed that (very) occasionally, as you straighten up on the exit from a corner (only left hand ones AFAIK), when the indicator gives it's last flash as the stalk goes back to the central position there is a corrresponding flash from the right indicator. This is NOT an alternate flash. They both flash at the same time.
Now I don't know how often this occurs. It's certainly not all the time as whenever it catches my eye I keep watching for the next few corners and it doesn't do it again.

Of course I'm looking at the little green arrows on the dash but I assume they are only replicating what's happening on the extremities of the car.

I can go months without noticing it but as you are watching the road at this point in time, it could be happening more often. However it's certainly VERY intermittent.

Has anyone else noticed this?

Phil №❶ · **Reply #1: October 21, 2011, 10:27:44**

No, but I'll be taking more notice in future.

meehalych · **Reply #2: October 21, 2011, 10:36:04**

surferdude
I haven't seen anything like what you described in a message, I'll keep it in mind next time I'm making a turn, but I'm sure it won't happen. Perhaps your stalk has loosened and on its way back to center position it just goes a little bit too farther or whatever....

Seoul-mate · **Reply #3: October 21, 2011, 11:06:17**

This sounds a bit like what you are referring to Trev......

https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=2454.msg22418#msg22418

constipated · **Reply #4: October 21, 2011, 12:15:26**

This would be more concerning on the new SLX and SR models here in Australia which have the "European" feature of flashing 3 times with a gentle press.

I find this more annoying than useful. Often I initially go to flash for a lane change, but then realise there's a car there so I want to cancel it, but it has to do the obligatory 3 flash minimum.

Now if you were turning left and due to this bug when it cancelled it gave a flash to the R, on my car it would have to give a minimum 3 flashes to the R.

This would be super annoying and worthy of a warranty check.

eye30 · **Reply #5: October 21, 2011, 16:21:09**

When it returns to the centre I wonder whether it springs upwards rather than stopping at the centre?

Surferdude · **Reply #6: October 21, 2011, 22:25:55**

Quote from: meehalych on October 21, 2011, 10:36:04

surferdude
I haven't seen anything like what you described in a message, I'll keep it in mind next time I'm making a turn, but I'm sure it won't happen. Perhaps your stalk has loosened and on its way back to center position it just goes a little bit too farther or whatever....

Not worn. Still very firm in its operation and anyway, it was noticed first when th car was quite new.

Quote from: constipated on October 21, 2011, 12:15:26

This would be more concerning on the new SLX and SR models here in Australia which have the "European" feature of flashing 3 times with a gentle press.

I find this more annoying than useful. Often I initially go to flash for a lane change, but then realise there's a car there so I want to cancel it, but it has to do the obligatory 3 flash minimum.

Now if you were turning left and due to this bug when it cancelled it gave a flash to the R, on my car it would have to give a minimum 3 flashes to the R.

This would be super annoying and worthy of a warranty check.

Yeah. I hate that feature. Had it on a hire car in UK last year. I don't have it.

Quote from: eye30 on October 21, 2011, 16:21:09

When it returns to the centre I wonder whether it springs upwards rather than stopping at the centre?

No, the stalk does pretty much what it's supposed to. And remember, it's not an alternative flash. It happens on both sides at the same time, as if you had your hazard flashers on.

But I appreciate the feedback.

Surferdude · **Reply #7: October 21, 2011, 22:30:29**

Quote from: Seoul-mate on October 21, 2011, 11:06:17

This sounds a bit like what you are referring to Trev......

https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=2454.msg22418#msg22418

Thanks mate. I remember reading that now. It would seem to be more common than I thought.
But the stalk isn't moving too far the opposite way IMO. However I'll pay more attention in future.

Phil №❶ · **Reply #8: October 21, 2011, 22:35:26**

Imagine, a lot of club members driving around today watching their indicator stalks instead of the road, you sure you don't have shares in a crash repair business surferdude.

Surferdude · **Reply #9: October 22, 2011, 00:24:13**

Damn you 847...

Sprung.

meehalych · **Reply #10: October 22, 2011, 10:13:45**

Quote from: 847563 on October 21, 2011, 22:35:26

Imagine, a lot of club members driving around today watching their indicator stalks instead of the road, you sure you don't have shares in a crash repair business surferdude.

Not me

rustynutz · **Reply #11: October 22, 2011, 10:47:16**

Ok, I'll ask.....

When did you get trafficators fitted to your i30, Trev?

Me thinks you're showing your age.....

eye30 · **Reply #12: October 22, 2011, 14:04:31**

I would guess there is some form of intermitten electrical fault with the indicator and hazards

Surferdude · **Reply #13: October 22, 2011, 21:53:01**

Quote from: rustynutz on October 22, 2011, 10:47:16

Ok, I'll ask.....

When did you get trafficators fitted to your i30, Trev?

Me thinks you're showing your age.....

Haha.
I actually chose that word as I wasn't sure what they're called in other parts of the world. "Flashers" might have given the wrong impression.

And "lane change indicators" takes too long to type.

Phil №❶ · **Reply #14: October 22, 2011, 22:22:52**

Off topic

Remember those little arms that used to come out of the side of the car in the Morris minor. They were orange and I think they had a dim globe inside them. Only ever had 1 car where they ACTUALLY WORKED. I was fascinated by them as a child, I used to play with them, operating them while the car was parked. Which is why they were inoperative most of the time I guess. You just reminded me of the "trafficators," that's what we called them.

rustynutz · **Reply #15: October 23, 2011, 01:34:32**

Quote from: surferdude on October 22, 2011, 21:53:01

Quote from: rustynutz on October 22, 2011, 10:47:16
Ok, I'll ask.....

When did you get trafficators fitted to your i30, Trev?

Me thinks you're showing your age.....

Haha.
I actually chose that word as I wasn't sure what they're called in other parts of the world. "Flashers" might have given the wrong impression.
And "lane change indicators" takes too long to type.

btw, did you google "trafficators"?

I vaguely remember them on my dad's old VW Beetle......

rustynutz · **Reply #16: October 23, 2011, 01:41:26**

Quote from: 847563 on October 22, 2011, 22:22:52

Off topic

Remember those little arms that used to come out of the side of the car in the Morris minor. They were orange and I think they had a dim globe inside them. Only ever had 1 car where they ACTUALLY WORKED. I was fascinated by them as a child, I used to play with them, operating them while the car was parked. Which is why they were inoperative most of the time I guess. You just reminded me of the "trafficators," that's what we called them.

Oh, just read your post....That's them!!! Trafficators...

I can picture them popping out of our i30's B pillar....

Surferdude · **Reply #17: October 23, 2011, 01:50:05**

Laugh it up, cupcake.

Phil №❶ · **Reply #18: October 23, 2011, 04:46:48**

rustynutz

Probably wouldn't pass the ADR now.

Ahhhh for the good old days when life was simple

Phil №❶ · **Reply #19: October 23, 2011, 04:48:03**

And increase drag & fuel consumption too.

eye30 · **Reply #20: October 23, 2011, 15:18:37**

Trafficators are semaphore signals which, when operated, protrude from the bodywork of a motor vehicle to indicate its intention to turn in the direction indicated by the pointing signal. Trafficators are often located at the door pillar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafficators

There is a picture.

I remember these on the Morris 1000 circa 1960's

Dazzler · **Reply #21: October 23, 2011, 21:54:11**

Lucky the V8 supercars don't use them (they wouldn't stay on for long)

bumpkin · **Reply #22: October 24, 2011, 08:37:13**

Quote from: surferdude on October 21, 2011, 22:25:55

Quote from: constipated on October 21, 2011, 12:15:26
This would be more concerning on the new SLX and SR models here in Australia which have the "European" feature of flashing 3 times with a gentle press.

I find this more annoying than useful. Often I initially go to flash for a lane change, but then realise there's a car there so I want to cancel it, but it has to do the obligatory 3 flash minimum.

Now if you were turning left and due to this bug when it cancelled it gave a flash to the R, on my car it would have to give a minimum 3 flashes to the R.

This would be super annoying and worthy of a warranty check.

Yeah. I hate that feature. Had it on a hire car in UK last year. I don't have it.

I have them on the ix20 and I have found them a lot more useful than I would ever have imagined, I use them when exiting roundabouts and I have to say from a safety point of view that having an obligatory three blinks when changing lanes is so much better than the single blink brigade