[Queen C]

I may have roughly about 3 weeks before I can get one  but I'm curious as to what to look at...

I know very little about cars to be honest haha.

I'm thinking of going with just the Active if it's possible to get the GPS and reverse camera installed on a later date on the 5' screen? I do want to go diesel and I need it to be auto, and anything above the Active just seems a little bit out of my price range. I've even been considering just a 2012 i30 SLX in diesel that I saw for around the 24K mark and just getting a GPS and camera installed myself... however it doesn't look like it has as much power as the Active and newer models.

I guess my question basically is if anyone knows with the active models if you can get those things installed on them if need be?  Sorry if this seems like a really silly question, like I said... anything to do with cars is like chinese to me 

[jimmy_s]

I would save for the Elite.

I have a dislike for anything third party given they sometimes devalue the car at time of resale, 'as original' helps in these stakes. 

Jim.

[Phil №❶]

If you're after an auto, the new model is 6 speed and there have only been good reports so far. It's more economical too, so were told. 

[Dazzler]

If you're after an auto, the new model is 6 speed and there have only been good reports so far. It's more economical too, so were told. 

 

The active would be fine and then just get one of the new Navman GPS units that can work with a reversing camera .. It wont be inbuilt (But the inbuilt Hyundai ones are not getting good feedback)

The Reverse camera is great but apparently the functionality of the GPS isn't as good as something like a Garmin or Tom Tom 

[Phil №❶]

  about the GPS. An aftermarket one will be cheaper and there's software available to plan trips etc, I use a Garmin product with lifetime map updates. Alan Ho does marvellous things with the info downloaded from the GPS to a PC.

[Doggie 1]

I understand this dilemma as I've thought about it a fair bit myself.
At the moment, Hyundai Australia has introduced "drive away" pricing for all Active models only and this includes the diesel.
It makes them better value at the moment because with Elite & Premium you are paying for on-road costs too.
The drive away price for an Active diesel manual is apparently $24490.
Until the end of August, H/A also have a promotion on which gives you a $1000 Myer card if you buy any new Hyundai. This card can be swapped for an extra $1000 discount in lieu which makes the Active diesel manual $23490 drive away.
Here are my thoughts.
I prefer the front end styling of the Active over the Elite & Premium.
The Active has all of the safety features of the upper models as they are standard across the range.
I don't mind foregoing the alloy wheels because it means I can add whatever wheels and tyres  I choose whenever I like and not be restricted to Hyundai's choice.
Before its release, I would have said that I prefer the inbuilt satnav & reversing camera but after having read some of the feedback so far, I would now probably prefer an after-market Navman with reverse camera attached (5 inch screen, albeit mounted on the dash). The lack of spoken street names is disappointing where the new Navman models have now gone a step further ahead again by not only having spoken street names, but also directions that include landmarks, eg "Turn left in 300 metres at Smith Street just after the Holden dealership." I like that idea.
With both Garmin Nuvi and Navman you get free map updates for life.
With the in-built Hyundai one, you only get free updates if you have all your servicing done at a Hyundai dealership which as we know, can get expensive.
Both have SUNA traffic updates.
All i30 models, including the Active, have reverse sensors.
I can live with manual air conditioning in the Active (climate control air in Elite/Premium). A good manual system works the same anyway.
I would miss the indicators in the mirrors, folding mirrors when parked, rain-sensing wipers and dusk-sensing headlights as those are features that I would have preferred to have.
I do wonder whether a good auto electrician would be able to retro-fit these items using genuine Hyundai parts, especially after the new GD model has been on the market for a little while and such parts start to appear on eBay at more realistic prices.
I would also miss not having the so-called "premium" steering wheel, but an after-market leather wheel can be added for probably @ $300 so it's not a deal breaker.
With the Hyundai discounting presently available at the current time, there's a saving of probably around $5000 to be had by choosing the Active.
So for all those reasons, I'd probably lean more towards the Active, personally, as being better value for money.

[Phil №❶]

Sounds to me, you've talked yourself into it 

But your logic looks good to me. Are the mentioned items worth 5k. I'd ring around and find out if professional aftermarket installers can do the improvements for you. Misha is doing this to his Kia & it is looking good. 

[Doggie 1]

I'm slow to make car decisions and still haven't decided.
I've now just paid for another service on my i30 which included cracked drive belt, air filter, fuel filter, new brake fluid, complete cooling system service including reverse flush and new coolant, new tail light & headlight globes, etc.
Own oil supplied - $544.56.
Not going to get any benefit from that if I trade it now, being the tight bugger I am. 

[Dazzler]

You nearly talked me into buying an active Dave 

[Phil №❶]

I'm slow to make car decisions and still haven't decided.
I've now just paid for another service on my i30 which included cracked drive belt, air filter, fuel filter, new brake fluid, complete cooling system service including reverse flush and new coolant, new tail light & headlight globes, etc.
Own oil supplied - $544.56.
Not going to get any benefit from that if I trade it now, being the tight bugger I am. 

As he prepares to cross the country to bring ANOTHER car back to Perth.

[Doggie 1]

STILL waiting for that one. 

[Queen C]

I understand this dilemma as I've thought about it a fair bit myself.
At the moment, Hyundai Australia has introduced "drive away" pricing for all Active models only and this includes the diesel.
It makes them better value at the moment because with Elite & Premium you are paying for on-road costs too.
The drive away price for an Active diesel manual is apparently $24490.
Until the end of August, H/A also have a promotion on which gives you a $1000 Myer card if you buy any new Hyundai. This card can be swapped for an extra $1000 discount in lieu which makes the Active diesel manual $23490 drive away.
Here are my thoughts.
I prefer the front end styling of the Active over the Elite & Premium.
The Active has all of the safety features of the upper models as they are standard across the range.
I don't mind foregoing the alloy wheels because it means I can add whatever wheels and tyres  I choose whenever I like and not be restricted to Hyundai's choice.
Before its release, I would have said that I prefer the inbuilt satnav & reversing camera but after having read some of the feedback so far, I would now probably prefer an after-market Navman with reverse camera attached (5 inch screen, albeit mounted on the dash). The lack of spoken street names is disappointing where the new Navman models have now gone a step further ahead again by not only having spoken street names, but also directions that include landmarks, eg "Turn left in 300 metres at Smith Street just after the Holden dealership." I like that idea.
With both Garmin Nuvi and Navman you get free map updates for life.
With the in-built Hyundai one, you only get free updates if you have all your servicing done at a Hyundai dealership which as we know, can get expensive.
Both have SUNA traffic updates.
All i30 models, including the Active, have reverse sensors.
I can live with manual air conditioning in the Active (climate control air in Elite/Premium). A good manual system works the same anyway.
I would miss the indicators in the mirrors, folding mirrors when parked, rain-sensing wipers and dusk-sensing headlights as those are features that I would have preferred to have.
I do wonder whether a good auto electrician would be able to retro-fit these items using genuine Hyundai parts, especially after the new GD model has been on the market for a little while and such parts start to appear on eBay at more realistic prices.
I would also miss not having the so-called "premium" steering wheel, but an after-market leather wheel can be added for probably @ $300 so it's not a deal breaker.
With the Hyundai discounting presently available at the current time, there's a saving of probably around $5000 to be had by choosing the Active.
So for all those reasons, I'd probably lean more towards the Active, personally, as being better value for money.

.... You've now even more so tempted me to get the Active haha.

Judging by what you've all said it sounds like its a much better deal, and if you do have to continuously take it back to Hyundai for services only to update the maps it doesn't overly impress me. Especially like you said, they can be quite costly. I think I'll go with the Active diesel and be prepared to purchase a Nav myself Thanks guys!

[Just Rick]

My thoughts,I have a Nav bitch,hardly use it,reversing camera on my Semi would be advantagious,but if you can't reverse a car without one what you doing driving,most cars these days are only matchboxes on wheels anyhow,like others I like to choose the style of wheels for my car not a extremely limited ones offer by Hyundai,also shop around to many many dealers,I know people who have bought cars 500 kilometres away because the deals where so much better,perfect example,we bought our first I30 14 months ago,set a budget,only shopped around two dealers both offering exactly the same deal,so bought our fist I30 poverty pack,was real happy with it(still am,even though we have had issues with it)lo and behold three months later we got our second I30,SLX fully optioned $200 cheaper than the poverty pack,each has their own characters,but still both great cars,one piece of advice though,what ever you get make sure it has factory fitted cruise control,as the after market ones they fit to the poverty packs are garbage.

[Queen C]

My thoughts,I have a Nav bitch,hardly use it,reversing camera on my Semi would be advantagious,but if you can't reverse a car without one what you doing driving,most cars these days are only matchboxes on wheels anyhow,like others I like to choose the style of wheels for my car not a extremely limited ones offer by Hyundai,also shop around to many many dealers,I know people who have bought cars 500 kilometres away because the deals where so much better,perfect example,we bought our first I30 14 months ago,set a budget,only shopped around two dealers both offering exactly the same deal,so bought our fist I30 poverty pack,was real happy with it(still am,even though we have had issues with it)lo and behold three months later we got our second I30,SLX fully optioned $200 cheaper than the poverty pack,each has their own characters,but still both great cars,one piece of advice though,what ever you get make sure it has factory fitted cruise control,as the after market ones they fit to the poverty packs are garbage.

Thanks for that! main reason for wanting a reverse camera is being a mum and hearing stories of children being hurt in the driveway I get a little paranoid which is why I want one installed just for peace of mind . But you are right about shopping around, I wouldn't mind traveling if it meant a better deal. For a while I was thinking of heading down the Ford Focus road but I've heard from a few mechanic friends that they get a lot of electrical faults after a few years, and I do like the i30s 5 year warranty over Ford's 3. 

[Doggie 1]

I agree that reverse cameras are an excellent safety feature.
If they only save you once a year.........

[Dazzler]

I agree that reverse cameras are an excellent safety feature.
If they only save you once a year.........

Amazing how things keep improving.. When we got our Hybrid in 2010 our 5"? reversing camera screen was so impressive... but 2 years later the 7" screen in the Veloster & i30 etc... makes it look pretty ordinary  and we don't have the coloured guide lines on ours... (Still find it handy though combined with the sensors...)

[Doggie 1]

It's quality that really matters.

[bumpkin]

Don't know if the i30 camera is the same as the i40 one, the coloured lines in the i40 move with the steering to show where you are going to go with the angle of the steering

I know that original ix35 camera doesn't do it, does the new i30??

[Dazzler]

I noticed that with the i40 .. haven't driven a new i30 yet

[beerman]

Personally I would sit down with the dealers and see what kind of deal I could do.

If Hyundai is discounting the Active, there is a chance they have a dealer bonus on the higher models, and  or more people are taking the pov pack over the higher models meaning a build up of stock. This might mean that you can still do a good deal on the higher models.

It all comes down to the deal you can do at the time. Keep your options open, deal hard, walk away and wait for them to call.

[Dazzler]

Good point beerman   They sometimes have more room to move with the trade in on the higher models (slightly more margin)