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Offline Surferdude

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Thanks to a couple of “discussions” recently on the forums and not to forget one thought provoking  post by Leo Tolstoy (Ibi for short  :wink:), I have been thinking about forum etiquette.

Whilst this is probably covered in full in the forums rules and regulations (Guidelines??), I have decided to record my thoughts and invite others to do the same.

1.   Obviously common courtesy and respect should be shown at all times.

2.   IMHO, repetition of arguments is boring and annoying and can be inflammatory.

3.   I am a member of another forum which is much less peaceful than this one (although this is by general agreement and design), but we have a guy on there who is the conspiracy theorist to end all conspiracy theorists. His big thing is that the world is headed for a massive (way bigger than 2008) GFC which will pretty much destroy economies world-wide. Whether he is right or wrong I don’t know but he continually posts links to information on the web to back up his arguments, including those suggesting collusion between the banks and big business and the governments to the detriment of the common man. Very annoying simply by their repetitiveness.

4.   I like the i30 Forums because, whilst they provide an absolute wealth of information about motoring, cars in general and i30’s in particular, they have developed into a wonderful, world-wide connection between individuals from all walks of life.  Apart from anything else, they provide each of us with insights into life in other parts of the world.

5.   But, just like in the local pub, the backyard BBQ, or local sporting club meeting (and, dare I say it, politics), sometimes discussions get heated. People have every right to be passionate about their causes. Which is when points I and 2 above should come into play.

6.   If members keep in mind those 2 points, I reckon most of the admittedly rare “verbal stoushes” could be avoided.

7.   Rustynuts has a favourite saying which is also one of mine. It is “I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” Voltaire

8.   I also have one which goes something like "Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost." Thomas Jefferson

9.   Both are valid. But, in themselves, they also demonstrate how things can get out of hand. If you take either premise to its extreme, problems arise most often because people can be offended or worse, hurt. So, some common sense and a certain amount of personal assessment of the content before posting can go a long way towards maintaining peace and harmony in the forum.

So, in summary, my thoughts are simply, be courteous and respectful; have your say; reply once if warranted but try to refrain from constant “comebacks”. Facts are important but they should not always be used to bludgeon others’ points of view/ opinions or observations.
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I used to think the women always wanted to have the last word, but I'm not so sure now.

A Surferdude says, if you can't agree with someone's opinion, accept the difference and move on.
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Well said Trevor, I can't disagree with any of that. I am still enjoying the site. Fortunately the stoushes are fairly few and far between although none at all would be even better.
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I do find it frustrating that I get attacked/rubbished/ridiculed for voicing MY opinion, yet some on here will accuse me of not respecting THEIR opinion...It really needs to work both ways...

What is wrong with "discussion" though?  :undecided:
If we all just voice an opinion and no-one questions any of them, how is that helpful to anyone?

I don't know about others but if I'm after information on something, I'd much rather have the correct information than just a bunch of "opinions"...

From recent comments, some of you obviously have a problem with me posting links backing up my "opinions", why?
Surely if you can show why I have that opinion then that is much more useful than having an unsubstantiated one?    I would've thought so...  :undecided:

It also concerns me that I seem to be the local whipping boy on this forum.
Not everything that happens on this forum is my fault.
Some on here need to start looking at themselves, even some of the mods...


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Rusty, the thing is, we only had maybe two minor stoushes on here in the more than 12 months you took a break from the site. Those parties soon learnt to settle down or zip it.

I enjoy the majority of your posts on the site, but you need to know when to let go of a topic.

Posting info and opinions until everyone agrees with you isn't going to happen.

Several of our members that really like you including me, just find your dog with a bone mentality tiring and stressful. You just need to state your opinion and let others state theirs, then let it go. Playing the poor me card doesn't help either. Just move on mate...

Please don't take that the wrong way.
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Rusty, nobody on here rubbishes or ridicules you for expressing an opinion.  What irks is that you just keep on keeping on. And in doing so, you do every thing in your power to shoot down or prove wrong others' posts. Ad infinitum.
As the old joke goes, that's when the fight started. That's a joke.  :mrgreen:
To demonstrate what I'm advocating, I'll take no further part in this discussion unless asked a direct question. .
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What he said. Me too..
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Playing the poor me card doesn't help either. Just move on mate...

I'm trying to make the forum a better place, Daz...for you and me both.
Burying your head in the sand helps no-one.

Take for example this thread: :link: Cop sued for ramming and kicking rider
Who came out swinging?  :undecided:
who inflamed things by posting up "Here we go again"

I ended up refusing to respond because it would just have escalated things...

Yet, going by comments since, it would seem it was all my fault... :crazy1:

I really don't like the constant snipes aimed at me. Much of it is "personal", something that is supposedly against forum rules yet, for whatever reason it seems okay for certain members to get away with it.

I'm not asking for special treatment, I'm just after a fair go...


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Ok Rusty, it is not ALL your fault BUT, can you just take our comments on board and not add more fuel to the fire.

All we are asking is if others disagree with your opinion that you don't try and "beat them into submission"

I know you will never see it that way, but that is what it looks like to most.

You have made your point. You feel unfairly singled out, but as I already explained. Others don't generated the level of rhetoric on here that you do.

We don't want or need this heavy discussion on here so please just leave it. We get your drift. I'm afraid nobody is lining up to give you a written apology.

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