[eye30]

A video has emerged of a driver stuck in traffic deciding to take matters into his own hands when another car tried to ‘undertake' him on the M58 motorway near Liverpool.

In a very British example of road rage, the driver decides to peel out from the queue in front of the passing car - then blocks it from going any faster than the stuck traffic for several minutes.

The driver filming the incident via his dashcam, who can be heard expressing his amusement, later wrote online that "an idiot in a Mercedes tried to undertake everybody and a hero in the Renault deals with him like a bad-a**".

However some viewers of the video, which was posted on YouTube, have speculated that the Renault driver may have been at fault.

"If traffic is moving slower in one lane, it's not an undertake. You use both lanes all the way up to the cones, then one-by-one you merge (taking it in turns). That's why it's called ‘merge in turn’ and is part of the highway code", one commenter wrote online.

Who?s in the right? Driver takes revenge on 'idiot' queue-jumper - BT

[CraigB]

If that was an open lane then the guy had every right to be driving on it until such time as a merge is required, the guy blocking him is lucky not to be the victim of a road rage incident imo.

[Dazzler]

If that was an open lane then the guy had every right to be driving on it until such time as a merge is required, the guy blocking him is lucky not to be the victim of a road rage incident imo.

  

[CraigB]

 

You watch it you  

[AlanHo]

UK Highway Code...

Clause 268
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

In my opinion the undertaking idiot was clearly in the wrong.

[Asterix]

Take a look at this:

Vi skal flette bedre på vejene - YouTube

In my opinion the Renault driver is the idiot and the wrong.  You are supposed to use both lanes all the way till the merging is required.

[CraigB]

In my opinion the Renault driver is the idiot and the wrong.  You are supposed to use both lanes all the way till the merging is required.

That's how we do it here 

[Asterix]

That's how we're supposed to do it here but most Danish drivers are just as dumb as the Renault driver. Everybody think that we must pile up in 1 line and the poor bugger following the rules trying to merge at the end like shown won't be let in.

My experience from Germany is that it works very well...

This is why the queues gets way too long..

[CraigB]

Yeah we also get the arrogant drivers that wont let people merge, and then we also get plenty of drivers who don't know what the hell their supposed to do and shouldn't even be on the road in the first place

[AlanHo]

Take a look at this:

Vi skal flette bedre på vejene - YouTube

In my opinion the Renault driver is the idiot and the wrong.  You are supposed to use both lanes all the way till the merging is required.

That graphic quite clearly shows both lanes being used - but those in the left lane are NOT going faster than those in the right lane.  It therefore does not make a case for undertaking - merely for all road users to make use of both lanes and then take it in turns to merge. The Merc driver had every right to use the left lane - but not go faster than the right lane as he was trying to do.

[Asterix]

Yes he have, Alan, it's actually stated in the highway code you posted:

UK Highway Code...

Clause 268
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

In my opinion the undertaking idiot was clearly in the wrong.

[AlanHo]

UK Highway Code...

Clause 268
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

In my opinion the undertaking idiot was clearly in the wrong.

The Merc had clearly changed into the empty left lane in order to queue jump. I am not condoning what the Renault driver did - he was equally stupid - both were provoking road rage.

The second sentence in the regulation refers to congestion where it is stop-go movement in lanes that causes one lane to move and not another. This means that you are allowed to move forward to keep up with slow traffic in your lane. In the video - Mr idiot Merc was not moving forward to keep up with slow traffic in the left lane - he was the only one in it until his path was blocked by Mr idiot Renault.

[Phil №❶]

Can't see anything wrong with the left lane being used that way. It's good traffic flow IMO. The law in SA on merging is if the car in the closed lane is in front of you, you MUST give way. So effectively it's a 50 / 50 share arrangement. Half the cars in the right lane should have been in the left lane, thereby reducing the length of the right lane queue and negating the difference in speed problem.

[Johnno]

it never works like that in that video, it would be great if it did but over here in situations like that everyone is driving bumper to bumper, and it ends up stop and start all the time, thats when people start getting frustrated,  if they left a couple of car lengths between vehicles it would be a smooth merge into one lane

[Phil №❶]

Sadly the driver mentality is all wrong. You can't merge 2 columns into 1 without having some delay. It's rare, but over here, some driver's actually acknowledge the apparent "courtesy", (even though it's the law), and it's a win / win situation. Then of course there are the aggressive others, who won't play by the rules and think they own the road.

[rustynutz]

If that was an open lane then the guy had every right to be driving on it until such time as a merge is required, the guy blocking him is lucky not to be the victim of a road rage incident imo.

  

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[CraigB]

If that was an open lane then the guy had every right to be driving on it until such time as a merge is required, the guy blocking him is lucky not to be the victim of a road rage incident imo.

  

and   

You want some to do ya  

[rustynutz]

Go ahead, make my day....

[Phil №❶]

Dirty Harry Do You ( I ) Feel Lucky Punk? ( high quality ) - YouTube   

[CraigB]

Go ahead, make my day....

I thought I did when I disintegrated you with my laser

I'll have to finish you off with my Lightsaber 

[Surferdude]

Can't see anything wrong with the left lane being used that way. It's good traffic flow IMO. The law in SA on merging is if the car in the closed lane is in front of you, you MUST give way. So effectively it's a 50 / 50 share arrangement. Half the cars in the right lane should have been in the left lane, thereby reducing the length of the right lane queue and negating the difference in speed problem.

I agree with Phil here.

Unfortunately all the doofuses who immediately pull into the right lane when they see a merge coming up compound the problem and add to the delays. I'm not sure about the law though. Without digging into it I seem to remember there is one state (maybe Qld?) which actually states that the cars merging from the left must give way. It may be more complex than that. IIRC there's a qualifier which defines whether the give way applies.

[rustynutz]

Go ahead, make my day....

I thought I did when I disintegrated you with my laser

I'll have to finish you off with my Lightsaber 

[CraigB]

Looks like that is to big for you too handle   

[Phil №❶]

Disintegration Pistol - YouTube 


 

[CraigB]

The link isn't allowed unfortunately Phil but I can still remember watching that episode when I was younger

[Doggie 1]

I'm with most of you.
Sorry Alan.
The lane is free and the driver in front has no right to do what he did.
We have a similar situation here that the W.A. locals will understand.
East Parade, East Perth with two right turn lanes to turn into the tunnel.
What is wrong is when cars in the third straight ahead lane do that and try to merge into the two right turning lanes.
Different scenario.

[Phil №❶]

The link isn't allowed unfortunately Phil but I can still remember watching that episode when I was younger

Just click the You Tube Icon, then.

[Just Rick]

If that was an open lane then the guy had every right to be driving on it until such time as a merge is required, the guy blocking him is lucky not to be the victim of a road rage incident imo.

He bloody well would have been if he'd done that to me,Bloody Moron,everyone in the right hand lane chose to be there and go slowly,that was their choice,but the car that WAS using the left lane was not exceeding the posted road works speed limits he was not doing any thing wrong,pretty sure the Renault driver had been spanking the monkey to often 

[Just Rick]

I'm with most of you.
Sorry Alan.
The lane is free and the driver in front has no right to do what he did.
We have a similar situation here that the W.A. locals will understand.
East Parade, East Perth with two right turn lanes to turn into the tunnel.
What is wrong is when cars in the third straight ahead lane do that and try to merge into the two right turning lanes.
Different scenario.

Biggest problem with the Poly Pipe,is the amount of Morons who enter at 80kph and as soon as they get 10 metres in the tunnel slow down to freaking 55KPH

[elantraelite]

From an etiquette perspective this can be quite frustrating when you know they are purposely jumping the queue. People need to be patient. They are on the road too, so they are apart of the problem just as much as the 10 car queued in infront.

I think leaving merging to the last minute is quite rude and dangerous.

I'd never do what the bloke in the renualt did.

Im pretty calm in traffic and happy to wait